Transcript for Synced: Indian Summer

SPEAKER_01

00:13 - 00:17

Hello there! How was your week?

SPEAKER_00

00:17 - 00:18

Wow, it was my week.

SPEAKER_01

00:18 - 00:24

Do you want to give them an update? Oh, I guess the details, but if you don't want, or you can.

SPEAKER_00

00:24 - 00:53

Well, I went on my first non double date with LinkedIn guy. Someone actually, I had drinks with someone who listens to our podcast. She's, we've been kind of fans of each other's work for a while. And she was like, do you guys think that the guys listen? The guys I want about this in the podcast? And I feel like we just operate as if they don't. Yeah, like men don't have podcasts apps. They don't have instruments. I mean, they might, but I just have to live our lives. It's true. And we don't, I don't feel like we say negative things.

SPEAKER_01

00:53 - 01:12

I don't think so. We're just sharing our experiences. And this is a whole conversation that happens on armchair two, like what's ethical about what you're sharing about other people. But ultimately, these are our lives. That's the point of these shows. So we're going to share. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

01:12 - 01:58

Yeah, we had a really good time. We went to all time. We had chocolate cake and the soup. And I told him about our egg freezing. Every time, you know, I talked a lot about you actually. Well, because it's so fun that I guess to talk about, you know, because now he knows you. So it was really actually quite nice. Oh, that's interesting that he had the context for a lot of my stories. But yeah, we had a really good time. He rescheduled twice. Well, the first time he rescheduled, I was like, OK, that can happen. And in the second time, I texted you and I was like, am I dating you? Yeah. That is my move. Because I think when I happen to the other person, you internalize it. You go, oh, they must not really want to go on date with me. They must not be that interested. But from your reschedule or perspective, is it that you actually are excited about the date and that's scary?

SPEAKER_01

01:58 - 02:34

Well, it depends on the date for me personally. It's more that I hate dating. We talked about this last week, but I don't like dating. And so yes, it's scary, but more, it's not that I'm rescheduling for an old reason. Like something comes up that I want to do. And I don't want to go on the day. So I do the thing I want to do, right? But I can only do that so many times before I'm, I think, like, I have to go. It's time for me to go on the day. It's a different for each person and not to scare you. But yes, the truth is I don't really want to go on the day when I do that.

SPEAKER_00

02:34 - 03:03

But it's not because you're not interested by the person. I guess I'm just, it was helpful for me to hear that from you, not that this happens to me all the time. But I think that I definitely internalize other people's, or like I internalize everything. And so even this, I was like, I mean, it definitely didn't make me feel as excited, but I will also was like, there could be a million reasons that happened nothing to do with me. And he has a lot going on. He's like moving. There's like a lot of moving happening.

SPEAKER_01

03:03 - 03:32

Well, and then I feel that it's a weird balance where you want someone who will prioritize you, but you also want someone who has stuff going on that has a life, right? And so if he rescheduled, and we know the first reason why he rescheduled, I don't know the second reason, but he has a life he cares about. I think that's great. Yeah. To me, and just like there's no desperation, and I like that.

SPEAKER_00

03:32 - 03:34

So you would like someone who was a rescheduler?

SPEAKER_01

03:36 - 03:39

I mean, it's not kind of just not going to bother you.

SPEAKER_00

03:39 - 04:12

Yeah. I wonder if the genders are reverse. It's different. I want to feel like it's especially for a date with a guy like that like he's organizing it and like sort of the one driving the ship. And so I think if a woman maybe guys don't take it as But to me it's like if he doesn't know where we're going or it's that part that I feel like I look for in guys especially like at the beginning that they're like on it in terms of getting the dates it up. But maybe for guys it's less of a big deal if for the one can't canceling because they're the ones kind of driving.

SPEAKER_01

04:12 - 04:24

Maybe, but that's such an old school dynamic that the man has to plan the day. I'm trying to, I mean, the last couple of guys. I felt like it was more, what should we do?

SPEAKER_00

04:24 - 05:18

It didn't feel, I don't know. I think like, when you're dating, yeah, but to me, like the first you dates, I feel like it's the bare minimum. I'm gonna put in a lot of time and effort into like looking good and like, But women and men, again, it's very traditional and old school, but we each have our own way of showing up and showing that we care about the other person and like we care about the date. And I like when a guy plans it. But what about when you're dating a woman? I've not been on as many, I haven't had as many experiences, but when I did, it's the person that's pursuing the other person. So there's one person that's like, I want to go on a date with you, right? And usually I think we fall back when it's men and women, men are the ones kind of pursuing and the ones suggesting the date. And when it's women and women, I mean, in my experience, if she asked me on a date and then she ends up paying because she's the one who wanted to take me out and wanted us to go on a date.

SPEAKER_01

05:18 - 05:30

But in this case, isn't this a little like you and LinkedIn guy? Is that the same for second date when everyone sort of agreed? Like you guys both want to go on a date with each other? Yeah, so is it the same?

SPEAKER_00

05:30 - 05:44

Well, I think this is like very not a normal, like it's rare that you go on a double date before going on the first date. So this felt like our first date. So yeah, I know that's what I expect, but it's certainly not like, yeah, it's just interesting.

SPEAKER_01

05:44 - 05:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

05:44 - 06:18

Yeah, you know, and then like I don't know if I went on a date with this guy that was like long story, but I went to it this party like two weeks ago. I knew one person at this party and I brought eight people and then the person with a minute, we got there's like I just laughed and so we got to this party where we didn't know anybody. We get there and then it's like the 40th birthday party of like this guy that I met like six years ago. So we went on a few dates and it was very organic in that way. It was like more friendly. Like it was more like, oh, we connected at one point. But LinkedIn guide. It's like a setting up situation. I think, yeah, you expect the guy to like drive a ship of it.

SPEAKER_01

06:18 - 06:34

But then do you think this is an interesting broader question. But if that's the expectation at first. Do you think that lends itself to a dynamic where they're in control or like they again have power?

SPEAKER_00

06:34 - 07:13

All of these dynamics do. There's always power dynamics in relationships. But to me, this is like the courting phase. I think once you're a few dates in or even again, if the first date goes really well and you guys really are pursuing this, yeah, often I'll be like, oh, I want to go to this place. Let's go to this place. But I think the first date should be like, It's just should for me. I want to feel, yeah, I want to feel like this person made a plan. It's not that complicated. Like, I'm not like, take me out on this crazy, you know, but yeah, I like to know that you can plan and like, are thoughtful and care. It's just nice to have that. But yeah, for other people, it's totally not important. That's fine, too.

SPEAKER_01

07:13 - 07:30

Yeah, interesting. Okay. Well, we did a cliffhanger of sorts. Yes. Where we said this week, we're going to talk about some of our current favorite things that we are enjoying. This sort of summer gift guide mixed with just things we're enjoying right now.

SPEAKER_00

07:30 - 07:40

I feel like I got these time it wrong, but it'll be great. I thought it was like gifts good ideas for gifts. So it's less of my favorite things and more like gifts. This probably it'll be better.

SPEAKER_01

07:40 - 08:56

Yeah, my guess. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to start with one of your items? You just start. Okay. I have these dessert plates. They're from ABC Home. They are called the Wonderland plates and they have different ones. They're very dainty and mine has like a Alice from Alice in Wonderland and she's eating cake on it. And I have them out on my table and they're so beautiful and they bring me a ton of joy. And I also think they're great gift. They're expensive but I just mean dessert plates in general are a great gift. There's some at Fish's ID that are super cute. If you search, dessert plates are abundant. is something that people don't normally buy themselves. If you're buying a plate set, you're probably going to skip the dessert plate. And so I think it's a cute gift idea to provide. And also because the dessert plate doesn't have to match the set. I think it's like fun if it doesn't actually. So I think that's fun. And if you really want to go the extra mile, you could bring the cake. Oh, cute! So I recommend if you really want to spurge, you can look at ABC home. Plates are so beautiful. They're like, I think China. Oh, wow. Which is why they're so expensive. But yeah, so that's one of mine.

SPEAKER_00

08:57 - 09:50

Okay, what I'm in is this is my move. It's like a really good gift. I have one and I love it. It's called a neck deck. Like the Shia-Tu massage neck massager and it's like warm and it like really like I gave one to my sister for Christmas one year and she will like talk about it on a right good because she's right children's books and like does illustrations. Yeah and she's like every time if I have a long day of drawing I'll like use it and it really takes out the knots. Like it's not just it's nice. It's self care. It's like fun. But it really, I don't know what technology they've figured out, but it really does work. Where if you have tension somewhere and you can't get it out, it'll get it out. And it's like 50 bucks. You can get it on Amazon. If you stayed someone's house or something like that, like it's a good little or like I had a friend who had a baby and often people give gifts for the baby, but like giving a gift to the mother. It's a good one. And I love mine. It's so great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

09:50 - 10:32

So nice. Speaking of gifts for the mother, this isn't on my list, but this is an idea. Okay, there's a spa in New York called Shibu spa. It's in the Greenwich Hotel, and they have these Japanese robes that you wear. into the massage and it's a navy blue and it has these white little flowers. There's so beautiful and they're so comfortable and they're so chic and you can buy them. So I just bought a spoiler. I don't think she listens, but I bought one for my friend who's pregnant and we're throwing a shower for her and so it's a gift for the mom as opposed to a gift for the baby. Me, you can do both, but I think it's a nice little.

SPEAKER_00

10:32 - 10:48

Yeah, robes are just so nice. Yeah, you've given me a row. Yes, Barbara. So soft. Again, it's those things that you don't necessarily buy for yourself, you know, because you're like, oh, I don't need. And I wear your robe, the one we have in our picture.

SPEAKER_01

10:48 - 10:49

Yes, our cover art.

SPEAKER_00

10:49 - 10:50

Yes, robes. I love it.

SPEAKER_01

10:50 - 12:11

Okay, so next for me is I might have said this before it might have been on a gift guide, so I feel bad if I'm repeating, but oh well, so the other day I went to chat to my mom with girlfriends for a dinner. I talk about this on armchair. But they have these candles here that are insane. They were sold out for six years. It was a whole thing. It's stupid. But they're back and stock. And so I bought one for all of us. And I think that's such a good gift idea. If you've gone and experienced something with that friend, like you've gone to a hotel with that friend or vacation or like a yummy dinner or something. And there's something from the place that you can buy like the candle or also I've given the Bemalman's Martini glasses to Amy because we all spent time in New York together and went to Bemalman's things like that where they're like nice especially if it's like a nice candle or a nice martini glass or something. I also had a friend some friends from home. We went to a dinner in Denver. This was many years ago and we were all shocked at how gorgeous the wine glasses were. You know it was a point of conversation so then I like looked to see what they were and then for Christmas I gave her two of those. So just like mixing the experience with the tangible item I think is fast.

SPEAKER_00

12:11 - 14:00

Wow, that's a really interesting style. I feel like you could give a master class. I love it. Yeah, that's a good idea. My parents are going on a trip and it was my dad's birthday. And so me and my sister, we never know what to get to my dad because he's like dad's her son. He's Bernie Sanders later. Really Bernie Sanders. We want to get them the gloves then. Even that he'd be like, I have gloves. Why did you buy these? This is bad for the environment. Like he would just be annoyed if we got him something that he doesn't need. So we knew where they were going in Italy and so I and my dad has a hearing impairment. So I googled quiet restaurants where that would be nice for him and then getting him like a gift certificate for specific. That's right. Like, but mine is more basic yours is taking something that you've experienced together and then getting them something to remember is also nice memory. But both yeah. I mean, talk about like thinking, you know, that whole mess. Obviously, you're getting a gift is like, will they like it? But when someone goes the extra mile, that makes such a difference. Okay, my next one is like, red light therapy. Like anything red light therapy. I'm a big fan of because I bought a panel from Cose, K O Z E, which is the brand I like trust. Because again, sometimes you don't know what you're getting and like somebody's red light devices can be kind of whatever, but I really love it. They have masks. There's a whole range of products. It's like red light bulbs. You can get if someone has trouble sleeping. It has a way of like cancelling out blue light so that it helps your body and like so many in rhythm. So painting rhythms like red light is just great. It helped my sleep a lot too. Like I have a lot of insomnia and it really helps. So it ranges from really expensive, but the like bulbs are like 20 bucks. Yeah, that's cool. So yeah, there's many ways of gifting red light. which is so good for your skin.

SPEAKER_01

14:00 - 14:06

I think Rick Rubin does something like this, like at a certain time of night, everything turns red.

SPEAKER_00

14:06 - 14:27

Yep, it's interesting. I put on only my little neons. I think this was a huberment thing or like where it was like five hours before bed or something like that. You can't have direct Five hours. Yeah, something like a few hours before bed. You have to start dimming. Oh, geez. I noticed it makes a difference. But again, I can't sleep. So someone who doesn't have trouble, it's probably fine.

SPEAKER_01

14:27 - 14:34

I thought of you the other day because you said that you used to I mask. And I need a good I mask.

SPEAKER_00

14:34 - 14:43

I found, okay, I'm going to add this to my favorite things. I found the perfect. What is it? I have to remember the brand because I'm going to order it right now. Why? Because you're having trouble sleeping.

SPEAKER_01

14:43 - 15:20

I don't sleep well, but also what I realized and I can't believe it took me this long to realize the apartment building next to my bedroom window has a light on all night. Oh, it's an outdoor light and it just stays on. So there's a light on next to my bedroom window all night so like I can't believe it took me six years to realize it that's how oblivious I am but I think that's obviously having an impact.

SPEAKER_00

15:20 - 16:13

Wow, for sure. And it impacts all these chemicals that I don't remember. Even just going to the bathroom and turning on the light. I know you're not supposed to do that. Exactly. So imagine all the time. Okay. So this is how it came through. It was advertised to me on Instagram. Obviously. Obviously. I saw the version on extra game and it was expensive so I found a cheaper one on Amazon but basically it's called door and rose is the brand and it's this like very thick I'm asked it's almost it looks like you have those 80s roll-of-liter sunglasses on it kind of goes over your forehead and again the way was advertised was something like better than bowtocks like whatever right it like protects your face basically from the creases or something's happening in your sleep But then I found a cheaper version on Amazon, and I'd like it. It's Xencia. It's the NSSIA, and it's 100% mulberry. Basically they're like, made up silk. Right.

SPEAKER_01

16:13 - 16:16

It's given in has a silk one that is good.

SPEAKER_00

16:16 - 16:38

And slip also has one. There's another brand called Luna, which also is similar where they just came up with this larger eyemask situation. And it's so nice. It's all like moisturized and I almost feel like it also like keeps in like moisture. That's a totally, I don't know. But it feels really fluffy and it never comes off. I'm so happy with it.

SPEAKER_01

16:38 - 16:45

Oh, wow. Okay. I'm going to get this. It's $29. Yeah. The one on door in rows.

SPEAKER_00

16:45 - 16:48

Oh, that's cheap. Yeah. It's not okay. That bad. The one on Amazon's 20 bucks.

SPEAKER_01

16:48 - 16:53

But do whatever skin recovering sleep mask is what this one is called.

SPEAKER_00

16:53 - 17:03

Yeah, I get all of them in black. I know that I mask are cute in all colors, but it makes it a difference. The black. Oh, that's smart for black out, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

17:03 - 17:04

Okay cool. I'm getting this.

SPEAKER_00

17:04 - 17:13

Yay. That's very exciting. Oh my god, fun. Otherwise, you need my list, but now it makes up for all the because all of my other ones are weird. Oh, because they're like gifts.

SPEAKER_01

17:14 - 17:28

Well, it's fine. My assumption is you're only giving gifts that you like or have or know. But the red light therapy, I have the Dennis Gross mask. I also gave that for white elephant, and it was big hit.

SPEAKER_00

17:28 - 17:30

Oh, I remember I really wanted it.

SPEAKER_01

17:30 - 18:18

It's a good one. It's great. Is it my turn or your turn? No, it might turn you to red light. Okay. So next for me, this is a small, small item. There's a design store down the street from us. It's called Pearson Ward. incredible store, beautiful store. They had this Japanese soap. It's a round soap. The brand is spelled T-O-M-A-N-O-H-A-D-A. If you put that in and do round soap, you'll see it. And I have the musk smell and it is so good. And it makes my whole bathroom smell so delicious and good. They have a rose one. Rose isn't really my scent. I really, it's not someone gave me a rose.

SPEAKER_00

18:18 - 18:28

I have like, I have to finish it because this was really a nice soap that was going to be like every time I like, okay, it's like strong. I can't breathe it in. I feel like I'm eating a grandma.

SPEAKER_01

18:28 - 19:06

Yeah, it's a little grandma for me too, but people love rose and it did smell nice. for a rose smell. It smells very clean. All of these smell very clean. And they have a fig one I want to try to. They have lavender, but it's very luxurious. And so, I recommend on the common, commonohata, the commonohata sphere around palm oil. It's so yummy. It's really good. Oh my god. And if you have a beautiful little dish to put it in, that's what I did to just like sit by the sink. It's just sitting in this like beautiful dish. Oh, so it's a hand. So it's like I'm using it as a hand. So yeah, it's a bar. It looks like this.

SPEAKER_00

19:07 - 19:41

Oh, that's so pretty. Japanese are great. They heard how everything's so sleek and beautiful. And I love things that make your whole bathroom like that's so nice. I would give these shower. What is that called bath bombs? No bath bombs for your shower. Do a charade. I know, it's like little air fresheners. Almost like pasties. That's French. I know. I know. What is it? Miracle Lavender like a steamer shower steamer. Have you ever heard of that? No. How would you call this? It's a pastie from here.

SPEAKER_01

19:43 - 19:47

I can't really tell. It's like a little talk. It's like a little talk.

SPEAKER_00

19:47 - 20:00

It's like a little puck that's made out of a room of therapy, sense, and like a central oil. Essential oils. You put it on your shower drain. And so every time you take a shower, it releases it. And so your bathroom kind of just smells good.

SPEAKER_01

20:00 - 20:16

That sounds great. A good hack for your bathroom smelling nice during the shower is if you hang eucalyptus from your shower head. That's why you have I threw it out because it was old. You got to replace them.

SPEAKER_00

20:16 - 20:20

And it smells good for how long. Good question. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

20:20 - 21:05

But it just like makes it like feels spa like looks smells like a spa. Okay, ding ding ding. Something crazy happened. The other day I was taking a shower. I had a different shower and then what came with the apartment because it was filtered water, whatever. And it crashed in the middle of my shower. Oh, thank God, it didn't crash on my head. I just started six feet under. Rob, I watch eight episodes of six feet under. Yes, Easter, I, we didn't episode of Flightless Bird that made me want to watch it. So I started it and at the beginning of each episode, there's a death. And this shower head crashing down is exactly how someone would have died on six feet under. Can you die?

SPEAKER_00

21:05 - 21:09

It was heavy. It's big. I don't know what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

21:09 - 21:41

So it's like a heavy, I don't know how to explain it. Other than it was, it's a shower head. It's heavy because of the filtration in there. So it crashed in the tub. It like exploded and then there was so much it looked horrifying. It looked like there was poop everywhere, and I got so nervous. I was like, why? I was like, ew, is it all moldy? But really, I think the filter itself is just like brown sandy type materials. So that was all over the top. I had to clean it. It was a big disaster.

SPEAKER_00

21:41 - 21:46

Really through me. Do you need filtered water? Is it good? It's like prayer hair. It makes a difference.

SPEAKER_01

21:46 - 22:06

I mean, I don't know. So since then, so I cleaned up all the crap. And so now I don't have a shower head. It's just pouring like like a waterfall. And I like kind of That's great. Yeah, it's making my hair washing much quicker. Oh, it's not diffused. It's just like someone dumping bunch of water.

SPEAKER_00

22:06 - 22:07

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22:07 - 22:08

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22:08 - 22:10

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SPEAKER_01

22:10 - 22:15

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SPEAKER_00

22:15 - 22:32

I mean, any kind of shower accident is scary. Have you had any? I slip a lot, but I've never like hurt myself not going wood, but the last two apartments I've lived in, there's no bath job. It's only just been shower, which actually is way safer, because you're not getting in and slipping in, but I'm like slippery.

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22:32 - 22:36

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SPEAKER_00

25:43 - 26:02

All right, okay, now you're done. Okay, so this is the weird one. I love doing personalized Oreos for people. Oh my god, that's so cute. It's a website. I think literally Google first lies Oreos and it'll pop up. I should probably shut them out. And so it's just a really goofy gift.

SPEAKER_01

26:02 - 26:05

It's at rio.com. My assumption is they have.

SPEAKER_00

26:05 - 26:41

They're making them. Yeah. Yeah. Orio.com, hilarious. So you're an Oreo.com and you can put a photo, you can write something and it takes us a little bit. You have to do it a little bit in advance. You know, it's not a tomorrow's Thursday and I forgot kind of thing, but it's a really funny gift. my friend's mom had this really silly character that she would do with Snapchat filters. And so I made a bunch of Oreos with the character telling her happy birthday. Oh, so you can just get really goofy with it. And it's kind of fun. I love Oreos so much. And they're vegan. I think they are.

SPEAKER_01

26:41 - 26:42

Yeah, yeah. I know vegans that eat them.

SPEAKER_00

26:42 - 26:46

Which doesn't make sense. It's a little bit unnerving.

SPEAKER_01

26:46 - 26:52

Like they should. That's okay. That's okay. We still love them. Yeah. Areos are the best. Oreos and milk is not vegan.

SPEAKER_00

26:52 - 26:58

Whoa, you could dip it in all kinds of different milk. Oh, you're right. There's vegan milk.

SPEAKER_01

26:58 - 27:03

Oh, oh. Is open vegan? Of course. Non-dairy.

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27:03 - 27:13

Amen milk. Oh milk, pistachio milk. What's your, you go to oat? You're an oat. No, I was. Well now you're whole. Yeah, I'm back to regular milk. Yeah, I know. Do you feel a change?

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27:14 - 28:23

Well, because you know, once you switch to these like healthier milks, and you learn that they're a mess, it's like, oh, there's all these oils in this. And oh, this is a carcinogen. It's like, oh, my God. So I just went back to regular home milk. And I love it. Great. Love it. Happy with it. Okay. Speaking of the Oreos, I do think personalized food is really fun. Bill Gates after we had him on the first time. He sent us Diet Coke. It was personalized. And so, Dax had a pack and said, Bill and Dax, Rob, you got one too, right? You had one said, Bill and Rob. And then mine said, Bill and Monica. And I posted it, not thinking at all that it looked like Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. And she texted me and she was laughing. She's the coolest person on earth has such a good sense of humor and she was put through like the fucking trauma of the century from the world and she's just really awesome. But anyway, yes, I didn't really think twice about it villain Monica.

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28:23 - 28:31

That's great. That's such a thoughtful gift. It was. I didn't even know you could do that. It makes sense. Brands are smart. They're smart.

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28:31 - 29:11

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Now next for me. This is not a gift. This is just what I'm super into right now. Is this nail polish I'm wearing? Oh, it's so nice. It's this really pretty orange. There's like a red undertone to it that makes it a little not bright. But it's not Halloween orange either. It feels matte or like opaque. It has a really cool jelliness to it. And I've been taking a break from manicures at a salon. in lieu of doing my own. I've been doing my own for the past few months. So I felt that I could support on the colors and the nail polish itself.

SPEAKER_00

29:11 - 29:12

Why did you decide to move away?

SPEAKER_01

29:12 - 29:19

It was more just, it takes time to go and I love it. It's fun to do, but it was just taking too long. It's funny.

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29:19 - 29:29

I haven't been going either. I used to get pedicures. It's like a fun, self-care thing and I haven't done it. Well, we used to go a lot. I think since we don't go, I don't go. Yeah, it's a whole thing and I'm like, I don't know if I need to.

SPEAKER_01

29:29 - 29:43

Yeah, so I've been doing my own and it's a Chanel nail polish, maybe I think it's French, so you will probably know how to say it. It's two words ETE and then INDIN. I need to see that.

SPEAKER_00

29:43 - 29:45

What ETE?

SPEAKER_01

29:45 - 29:46

Yeah, that's the first word.

SPEAKER_00

29:46 - 29:51

Oh, that's not really a word. It. But it should be to you.

SPEAKER_01

29:51 - 29:53

Summer is apparently what it means.

SPEAKER_00

29:53 - 29:56

Oh, thank you. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

29:56 - 30:05

Okay, so it is okay. Okay, so Indian summer is probably what it means. What's the second one? I and D. I. Yeah.

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30:05 - 30:06

Yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

30:06 - 30:18

Ding ding ding. Indian summer. I'm Indian. Oh my god. Wow. What does this mean? What does it mean? And it's number 163. It's beautiful. It's beautiful color. I really like it. It's going to take me through the summer, I think.

SPEAKER_00

30:18 - 31:04

you're having an Indian summer outside exactly. Okay, another, again, I like to use Etsy to personalize anything. I got a Stanley Cup from my niece for her birthday this year and there's so many shops that you can personalize and they'll personalize the Stanley Cup with whatever you want them to. When I went to Greece on that trip last summer, I made personalized t-shirts and a captain hat because I was learning his like captain. class, captains, license or whatever. And so I got him like a personalized captain hat with his name on it. Again, all Etsy and it's really affordable and you can personalize anything on Etsy, literally anything. But hats, t-shirts, mugs, family cups, queues, like a fun one. How many more do you have? We can wrap up. I have one more.

SPEAKER_01

31:04 - 31:50

Okay, great. So next for me, this is from Go Harworld, which is a website and they have these lemon squeezers. You put like a slice of lemon in there and they have a bird and a fish and they're so cute. I asked for one for Christmas two years ago and I got it and if you have a dinner party or something, it's just such a cute thing to have out and have people squeeze their whatever you have a yeah squeeze your lemon squeeze our lemon over the food is just to me when I'm at someone's house it's always those I need details that I am super attracted to. Who needs this little lemon squeeze or no one, but it makes everything feel more intentional and sweet and fun.

SPEAKER_00

31:50 - 31:57

But some weight does everyone have their own lemon. No, okay. It's just all around. Yeah, you go like who wants some lemon squeeze. That's sweet.

SPEAKER_01

31:57 - 32:11

Yeah, just like when you feel like are passing the plate, it's just out. Wow, I like that. Yeah, it's really cute. I've seen this on a couple other people's gift guides who I trust. So it's like a cool girl move to have it.

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32:11 - 32:23

I recommend that. My last one is let me go with state candles. Usually like I'll just have one at my house. It's one of those like if you're going to someone's house or again like a last minute gift, it's just a really luxurious affordable.

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32:23 - 33:34

They smell so good. All of their stuff smells so good. Okay, so my last one, of course, I don't know how to tell you how to get it. So this is a bummer. But at Nikki Keeho, designs were a Los Angeles incredible and full disclosure of my designer. The store is so good. They just open one in New York. So if you're in New York, also please check out Nikki Keeho, or if you're here. But a couple of months ago, they had these cards. They're very thick card stock and they have these gorgeous French cartoon drawings on them and you're supposed to spray your perfume on it and then like give it to your lover. Oh, which is such a I just love it so much. I plan on using it as cards stationary. And I think there's a couple that I want to frame. They're beautiful. That's so cute. That's enough like framing a card. I think is a really fun move. I had this little card with this tiny drawing of a pancake on it from the store next to all time called grandpa and I framed it in the hung it in my kitchen and it's so cute. Art can be

SPEAKER_00

33:35 - 33:51

Anything you want it to be. And framing a photo of you guys. I love getting those because framing is such a hassle, and I'll just won't do it. So when someone gives me like a frame already done, it's so nice that it's all ready to go. I had a friend do that for like a trip we went to. She like framed this really beautiful photo of us.

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33:51 - 34:01

You really have to know the person's style if you're gonna do that. Or if they don't care exactly. But if they do and then you get them a frame, they don't want. I've been in this position.

SPEAKER_00

34:01 - 34:01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

34:01 - 34:12

Where I love it, but I'm like, oh, like this doesn't go, but then if I replace the frame, they'll see it, and then that's uncomfortable. So can get sticky.

SPEAKER_00

34:12 - 34:14

Oh wow.

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34:14 - 34:53

Anyhow, all right, well, I guess for now, that's gonna conclude our summer gift guide, our summer favorite things, but maybe we'll revisit this down the line, because I think it's fun. I like hearing what other people are into and getting inspiration and ideas. Yeah. Okay, so let's do some questions. Wait, and so are you going to sealington guy again? Do you think I think so? Love it. I hope the double day leads to long and happy marriage. It would be great. You would appreciate the wedding. Oh my god, I'll get started on my speech right now. I'm just going to read Taylor Swift's commencement speech.

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34:53 - 34:54

Oh my god, I would love nothing more.

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35:29 - 37:26

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38:05 - 39:45

This is intense, okay? Help. Drunken one-night stand before my wedding. Rob's face. Yeah, this is intense. We're not here to judge. This is from anonymous duh. What if they put their last name? Hi Monica and Liz absolutely love your podcast and have from race to 35 up until now. Really feels like I'm just hanging with the gals. I'm writing in because I've made a big mistake. I'm getting married in a couple months, but I've been on holiday overseas and ended up making out with a guy after a lot of shots. Like a lot. I have a lot of blank memories. I have never been someone to do this. I can't sleep or eat. The guilt is a lot. I love my husband to be incredibly deeply. We've been together for many years already. We've been through an incredible amount together and I love our life. I've booked in for some therapy to reconcile the fact that I'm even someone who could do this. I'm so afraid to hurt him and lose everything. I'm in a total ethical dilemma. Do I keep this from him and continue our happy lives and work on forgiving myself and being the best partner I can be? Knowing I never want to do this again? Or do I confess knowing it will completely break him and our trust? Especially tough in the lead up to our wedding. Keeping it in would be a shift in my own values and the open and honest relationship we've always had. But telling him, maybe in losing it all over something completely stupid. Help. This is so hard. People might be mad at me for saying this, but I'm sorry. Like, I'm sorry you're in this position. And it really sucks when you do something you can't take back. And I think we've all been in positions where we've done something we can't take back. So what are your initial thoughts?

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39:45 - 41:26

I think my immediate thoughts, I don't know, I was dating someone long distance in my 20s and you weren't engaged or anything, but still there was a night similar to that where I didn't even sleep with the person, but I was like, I think it was my birthday like I was very drunk and I kept putting my hand on his mouth but then would like put my mouth on like but that was the extent of what happened but I felt terrible for a month and like I never told him but looking back I wish I had because I I ended up just feeling guilty out of the blue all the time yeah about something that I don't well this is a because he was so toxic Well, if I would have told him, I think the relationship actually would have taken a different turn if I told him for the best, where like maybe it would have been this sort of right relationship. But in this case, it feels like it is the right relationship. And she wants to build this and keep going. And I relate to just the guilt and that feeling is just going to follow you around and you're going to feel guilty all the time. You don't want to start the relationship in this dynamic where you feel like you've wronged someone, right? Or that you have to make up or compensate for being this terrible person. which I get, I don't know if that's what she's doing, but that's what would happen to me. It would be so in the back of my mind so often that then it would motivate certain things that I would do. And so at the risk of not knowing what's going to unfold, I think it's worth maybe talking about. And maybe there is also a conversation with yourself about drinking. Yeah. I could be also something to think about and then bring to your partner.

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41:26 - 42:41

We can't give you a right answer here. There is no right answer. So it's just what you can live with ultimately at the end of the day. But I do think if you are telling the person so that you are relieved of guilt, knowing it's going to cause so much pain, I don't know. It's tricky for me because that's still about you. It's still like I feel too guilty. So I'm going to have to say not you Liz, but I'm going to have to say something so that I don't feel guilty. Here's what I'll say. If I was in this position and I was him, I would not want to know. Oh, wow. 100% would never want to hear this because then you can't unhear it. You'll never unhear that for the rest of your life. And this person seems that they are very adamant about correcting behavior as far as never doing this in the future, going to therapy, figuring their own shit out, understanding why. And maybe there's curbing behaviors moving forward. I think she can do that. and not ruin his life. I mean, really, I would not want to know.

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42:41 - 43:11

I want that person to figure their shit out on their own and let's move on with our like, I mean, I have friends that are in a really serious relationship and that happened and their relationship has been a mess. like they've worked on it really hard but it then set up this whole dynamic where like she kind of got over it but then she was then being flirty with other like because she felt like she was owed that and I think there was resentment. It's really hard to overcome.

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43:11 - 43:39

It is and I mean, I've seen both examples. I've seen a couple that wasn't able to overcome it and I've seen a couple that did. So it's so specific to the person and the people and maybe part of it is knowing your partner and do you think he would like ultimately want to know? I mean, there are things that I found out in my life that I wish I never know. Like if I had never known that, I just would have been a happier person.

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43:39 - 44:38

Yeah, I think it's one thing if it's a pattern and it's something that you think about all the time and that you're acting on or that you feel like you need to like repress this feels a little bit different from that. So maybe, right? I mean, there's a part of me that's like if this was me and I couldn't remember three quarters of it anyways, I'd be like, oh, I just don't really remember. It didn't happen. I'm not sure it And then again, I'd get help in terms of drinking and just reflecting on, you know, because again, not that those things always go hand in hand, but in my friends case, you needed to work on his drug use and become really sober and commit to that because you're making different decisions. And so if this was my friend, I would support her right away. And yeah, I think if you know that your partner is extremely sensitive to cheating and would definitely like, I don't know if it's ever come up. I feel like sometimes eventually does you get a sense with your partner. If this is like a non starter, then I think it's also a different story. Like if you know this is like

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44:39 - 46:07

Yeah, that's all we can really say. I think that's my personal take is I wouldn't want to know. That's all I can sort of offer to the table and go to therapy, talk it out. Okay, here's another anonymous. I get sad after sexting. Hi Monica and Liz. I have a man friend who lives in a different state. We both like each other but can't commit to dating long distance, much to my dismay. We are in pretty regular contact and from time to time we end up sexting. It gets really heated. We send videos back and forth. He brings out a super sexual side of me and he makes me feel so wanted. The only issue is I get sad when the sexting ends. I think part of it is that there's no after sex cuddling and I'm hit with the reality of our situation being miles and miles away. Sometimes I think I shouldn't cross into the sexing territory with him to protect myself, but also it's so fun. No one has ever made me feel as sexy as he does. Any advice welcome and also I would just love to hear about your general sexing thoughts experiences. Oh, man. It's choosing the moment over the reality, like, you know, This is a pattern of addiction, right? Not that I'm not calling this person an addict, but this is what happens where it's like, oh my gosh, but this is so fun. I love this so much. I've never felt so good. I've never, so I'm picking this even though, yes, what comes with it is a sense of like, but I don't actually have anything real here, which hurts. So this is hard to say. I think it's a band-aid and I think you have to stop.

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46:08 - 47:13

with this person. Okay, so how do sexing event? Oh my god. I think I may have told you about this. It was this guy then like I met at a coffee shop and we had this like five hour conversation. It was great. And then he was like, let's go get dinner and then called me that morning was like, by the way, I'm engaged. Oh, remember him like, but he was like, we're breaking up and like we're already living separately, but I want to let you know that like I'm still kind of like undoing this thing. And I was like so bummed, but then I was like, okay, I guess let's still get dinner. And then it just devolved into like us being in touch, but it taking like way longer. I thought, okay, this will be a few weeks or something. But yeah, I took a few months and then it was Christmas and then I was home and he was home and then we were texting and then it just turned into texting. And it was like so fun because we've talked about this like Christmas crunches. But in this case, it was like Christmas sexting. Like I was like having fun. Yeah. Yeah. But then I would immediately feel kind of not immediately feel bad, but I eventually felt, yeah, like, oh, I feel like

SPEAKER_01

47:14 - 47:43

Yeah, I know it used, but use isn't the right one because you're consenting. You're consenting and you're engaging and you enjoy it. But it's just like, that wasn't real intimacy. That's like what ends up happening. I think. And if you're in a certain mindset or a certain person, that can just be totally fun, right? And like totally fine. But I think often, if you wish there was something more. Exactly. And then it's just the reality that like, oh, this can't be.

SPEAKER_00

47:43 - 47:50

That's a difference. It can be so fun. I've done it in relationships and like, you don't get sad, but you also probably don't get the same high.

SPEAKER_01

47:50 - 48:04

It's all part and parcel. The reason it feels so good is you're getting a hit of something you can't really have, but you feel like you have it in the moment, which is why then it's like a 10. And then you're like, oh, yeah. And then you're at 02.

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48:05 - 49:11

Yeah, it's great if you don't want more, but maybe with this friend, there's a part of you that does. But then I also want to say, okay, like sometimes it's hard, especially as a woman living in a patriarchal society of like, what is true and what have I like kind of internalized? Sometimes I don't even want more with a guy, for example, but just because he doesn't all feel right and I'm like, wait, I don't even. But you can go immediately to shame or rejection or feeling like there's something embarrassing or lesser because you're engaging sexually when like there's something wrong with that and that's totally normal and beautiful. So sometimes I think there's some patriarchal programming in there too. Again, I don't know if this person in their situation, but there might be also part of you that like feels this is kind of self-imposed shame as opposed to from the actual. how you're interpreting it, as opposed to how it's landing. But I think sexing is great. Yeah, do it on signal. I worry about sending things when people do that. I think it's very brave because people are nuts out there. But I think it's really positive if you feel good.

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49:11 - 49:24

There's nothing wrong with anything unless you're feeling pain. Right. And it sounds like you are. I think it's understanding the reason it feels so good is part of this and I might be worth taking a step back and seeing how you feel.

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49:25 - 50:03

or afterwards like you could do your own self-care instead of cuddling with someone like you could like I think sex with Emily in her book she talks about every morning she'll like masturbate meditate Manifest that it's like a part of a self-care thing where she kind of uses the post, I guess, masturbation glow. So you could put on some really nice music, you could take a warm bath, you could use your necktack, shout to massage her. There's things that you could do for yourself afterwards to like take care of yourself. I don't know if it replaces the sad, but you don't need someone else to do those things necessarily.

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50:03 - 52:18

for sure. But everyone is so different because I had a one night stand with this person and he was super hot and I was excited and it was like fun enough. It was fun. But that's why it was only fun enough for me because then he leaves and then I'm just like, all right, here I am. That does not feel good to me. I did talk to my therapist about, of course, and she was like, yeah, that's so normal for so many people. Like, you personally, Monica, don't get anything from that. Right. And a lot of people do, which is amazing. Great. I wish. But I don't. And so you have to know you. Right. Anyway. Okay. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Oh, wow. This is amazing. Oh, I love this. Engagement, ring, question, updates. I'm Elizabeth. Hi, Monica and Liz. First of all, I want to say that y'all answering my question about how I hated my engagement ring was one of the highlights of my 2023. I was on the stair climber at the gym when I heard and had to contain myself. But on a real note, you two made me feel so validated and brave enough to say something. Here's the update. After five years together, I ended the relationship in December. I had been lying to myself and the people who care about me for over a year, lying in bed awake at night, not able to sleep. We were not the great couple that I was projecting out into the world. I won't go into it, but he didn't consider me. And when I saw that silver heart ring, I knew in the depths of my soul that this wasn't meant to be. So I ended my life as I knew it. I have since turned 30 moved to a new city and into my very first apartment by myself. It's hard to put into words with this experience has been like, on one hand, it's been devastating. On another hand, I'm finally learning what it means to respect myself and have self-worth. So this message goes out to all of the women out there who know in their guts that it isn't meant to be, it won't get better. You're not asking for too much and you deserve to feel considered loved and be seen. I'm still very much in the thick of starting my whole life over, but I can finally sleep again, which gives me hope that it truly was for the best and that good things are coming. If you have any advice for starting your whole life over at 30, I'm all ears. But either way, I hope that my story gives those women an unhappy relationship's courage. We don't have to settle.

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52:20 - 52:30

God I am like cry. I know oh my god That's the most amazing thing I've ever heard that's incredible

SPEAKER_01

52:31 - 52:39

Elizabeth, congrats to you for taking your life into your hands. Wow. Oh my God.

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52:39 - 53:04

Wow. You are such a badass. Good for you. That's such a common thing. I have a friend who's been in relationship for like a really long time. very, very close couple, they live together. And then a couple of weeks ago, she was like, for five years, I haven't been able to sleep. I don't love with them. And I've been like, you have never told me like, yes, very similar where you just kind of feel like it's your fault.

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53:04 - 53:08

Yes, you're lying to yourself as much as you're lying to everyone else.

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53:08 - 53:51

Yes, and you internalize what's not working in the relationship as if you can fix it and it's up to you and you just have to settle or accept things that are not acceptable and I think it's so brave and so cool when women do it and talk about it. Cheryl Stray does do your sugar and like I remember one of her columns someone had written in and said you know I don't know if I should and this relationship and Cheryl Stray was just like do the thing that you already know is true. When someone does come with that question of should I be staying? There's no should. Yeah. Exactly. And if you think that you should, that's already an indicator that you're imposing other people's ideas of what life should look like. Exactly. Or how you should feel? There's no way you should feel. There's just the way that you do feel.

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53:51 - 54:20

Right. Exactly. Oh my god, this is incredible. And also I will say you're 30, 30 so young and dodged a bullet. Yeah, your life is starting regardless of this person. 30 is when life start is true. It was perfect timing. I think to start again and I'm so excited for you. You are incredible. I hope you feel it and know it.

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54:20 - 54:35

How wonderful. I have chills. And to your point, I think, like in your 30s is when you really know yourself and get comfortable with yourself and advocate for yourself. And I think it's the perfect time to what I'm doing.

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54:35 - 54:51

Choose who you want to be with. And now you know, you're starting this new chapter with so much more information, so much more knowledge about what you are willing to accept. It's gonna inform whatever happens next. You're empowered in a new way. So cool.

SPEAKER_00

54:51 - 54:56

Who would have thunk it? I'm gonna be happy all week just thinking about her.

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54:56 - 55:14

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55:14 - 55:17

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Yeah. And we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye.