Transcript for Israeli tanks in the heart of Rafah
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This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Andrew Pagean at 13 hours GMT on Wednesday 28th of May these rare main stories. The reports of tanks reaching the centre of Raffer as Israel intensifies its military operation despite condemnation over the deaths of Palestinian civilians. Three more nations officially recognised Palestine as a state. It's crunch time in Georgia, as parliament votes on its divisive foreign agents law, and move many seers a step away from the West and towards Russia. Also in this podcast on the Eva South Africa's elections, we look at the length some people in the post of part eight South Africa go to to find a home.
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It was a two-way lead before. It was a toilet? Yes. And now what you have a kitchen?
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I have a kitchen. It's a toilet. Yes. There's place actually gave me a bit of home.
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And while Album No One's heard, it's got top billing as a museum in Australia. Israel's forces are moved deeper into refer in something Gaza, as it carries out its most intense bombardment of the city since it began its military operation there three weeks ago. Israel, say it's an offensive that's necessary to destroy the remaining Hamas battalions there and free hostages. But the cost of Palestinian lives has been high. On Sunday, 45 people in a camp for displaced people were killed, and strikes on the night of Monday into Tuesday killed 16 more, according to Hamas officials. There are now reports that several Israeli tanks have reached the centre of Raffa. Hundreds of families have had to flee.
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We woke up at six in the morning from the shelling and rockets. We don't know where we're going. We don't have tents. We don't have anything. We have children with us. And my aunt and my mother-in-law are under the shelling.
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And I must go and get them.
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I'm just walking in the street. I don't know where to come or go. They say that we should go somewhere safe. There is no or safe. There is no area that is safe. This is not a lie.
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Just before we recorded this podcast, I got the latest on the movements of those Israeli military tanks in refer from our Middle East correspondent Yola Nell in Jerusalem.
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We've not heard anything officially from the Israeli military about the movements of its ground troops, but we've got witnesses in Raffa. Telling us that they have now reached the heart of the city really. The allowed around about that's a key landmark. One witness told us that there was a sniper or any sniper's set up on a tour building. We haven't got a full confirmation of exactly what is happening there. We do know as well that there were reports earlier that Israeli forces had seized control of the highest hilltop along the Gaza Egypt border this area that's known as the Philadelphia corridor. A large part of this corridor strategically important of course now under Israeli control. They're reported being gun battles with Hamas led fighters there and we also know there was overnight a shootout between Egyptian soldiers along the border and Israeli soldiers resulted in one Egyptian officer being killed. In general, intense Israeli air strikes artillery fire that went on overnight. People told us it was terrifying that they got up early this morning from homes in the west of Raffa. Thousands of people could be seen fleeing from that part of the city, piling up their possessions and those scenes have become all too familiar from Gaza. And people also moving from that tent camp, and tell us all ten, where those this deadly Israeli bombing on Sunday, that it ignited a huge blaze there. What the Israeli Prime Minister has called a tragic mishab.
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The UN Security Council are meeting to talk about this later, although Israel seems undaunted by any level of international condemnation.
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Yeah, so we have this meeting taking place behind closed doors later. It was called by Algeria in response to that deadly air strike on Sunday night. The UN has already called for a full and transparent investigation into what happened. We had last week the top UN court basically ordering Israel to stop its raffa offensive although it argues that there is some scope for military action left by the wording of the ruling and it On the world stage, you know, Israel does just look more and more isolated.
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You'll know with me from Jerusalem. Meanwhile, Spain, Ireland and Norway have all officially recognized the state of Palestine. It was an initiative begun by the Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez.
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With this decision, Spain joins the more than 140 countries that will really recognize Palestine. This is her historic decision that has a single goal to contribute to achieving peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
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But it may not be enough for these people who are among hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters who gathered on Monday in Barcelona and Madrid.
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We need more from the state of Spain. We don't want only the declaration of a Palestinian state, because that's something more symbolic than anything. We ask for the government to cut relations with the state of Israel, not just that. We want them to stop selling and buying arms from the state of Israel, because that makes the Spain complex of the genocide that is going on in Palestine.
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The next step is a blockage to Israel, and then starting negotiations to recognize the both states in the same territory.
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Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have welcomed the recognition. Israel's Foreign Affairs Minister Israel Katz shared a video on X. mixed images of Flamenco dancers with Hamas fighters attacking Israel on the 7th of October with a message to the Spanish President that Hamas thanks him for his service. Israel has accused all three countries of rewarding terrorism and has withdrawn its ambassadors. Our correspondent, Madrid, is Guy Hechko.
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Mr Sanchez has been very keen to promote this initiative and we saw him there speaking in English that reflects how significant he feels this is. He said he had to speak in Spanish and English because it was such an internationally important moment. Mr Sanchez has argued that it reflects public opinion and polls to suggest that in terms of the political reaction Broadly, I suppose you could say, does have support certainly from the left and his allies on the left. They're very much in support of this. In fact, many think that this announcement should have been made previously on the right. It's a little more complicated. The main conservative people's party says it does support that two state solution. But it has criticized him for the way that he's gone about this. It says he's gone about it too fast and that's why he hasn't got more support from other countries. And then they also say he's been trying to support the limelight as well. The feeling is that above all this is a symbolic move. And I think what Pedro Sanchez and his government hoped is that this will somehow encourage other countries, particularly in Europe, to take similar steps in the near future.
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I hedgeco in Madrid. Thirty years on from South Africa's first democratic election and the end of a part eight, the country is on the eve of voting in a new parliament. The party that brought an end to a part eight, the African National Congress, the ANC, have always had a parliamentary majority. This time there's the very real prospect that it might sink below 50% of the votes, raising the prospect of a coalition government. Some people are still grappling with how to reverse the geography of a passage, the white minority rule, which determine where and how people lived. Africa correspondent Barbara Pletasha has been to Cape Town where the contrasts are particularly stark.
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This is an afternoon Arabic lesson, practice for reading the Quran. children are clustered around two tables in a long room. They're in a derelict hospital that's under occupation by people who got tired of waiting for government housing and took matters into their own hands.
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Gemila David's is one of them. I found something and I ended up in the old mock office and everyone's like, why are you living in the morgue? I said, you know what? It's home now. It's a place I can call home.
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Another resident, Feldeela Peterson, shows me how she's transformed a bathroom into a home.
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It was a toilet before. It was a toilet? Yes. And now when you have a kitchen, I have a kitchen.
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It's a toilet. Yes. This place actually gave me a bit of more home, like a homecoming. I was evicted like 10 times in a year. But living in this occupation gave me that opportunity to look my life a bit better. And it's much more nearer to the city as well.
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And that's the point. This is all about location.
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So we have probably around about a thousand five hundred people living here.
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That will Lucas is one of the social rights activists who organized the hospital takeover.
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Close to occupation for the purpose of being centrally located. It's close to the city center. It's close to economic activities. It's close to transport.
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Under apartheid, racist laws banished black and colored people to the peripheries of cities. Now they have the right to move, but many can't afford to. The ANC government has built housing, but most of it far from the city center, where land is cheaper, which has served to reinforce the geography of apartheid.
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Cape Town really is probably the most segregated urban area anywhere on earth. So I mean, still today, not a single affordable home has been built in the inner city of Cape Town.
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Nick Budlander is an urban policy researcher. He's giving me a tour of parking lots, that store government vehicles. Identified by activists as available public land that could be transformed into low income housing.
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This one really irritates me because it's just full of broken cars. I think it's an absolutely egregious example that in an area like this that so many people would benefit from living in. The decision is rather to just have cars covered in dust.
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There are signs of a new government approach. And now at another former hospital site and there is construction going on here because the provincial government is building low-cost housing just a few kilometers from the city center. Some has already been completed and people have moved in and are paying low rents but really this is just a drop in the bucket compared to what's needed.
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The section we are working now is affordable housing, which is a rental option.
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The Provincial Infrastructure Minister, Turchus Simmers, acknowledges a backlog of 600,000 people waiting for housing assistance, but says they're working on it.
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We are very ambitious for our next five year cycle of in terms of delivery. We have 29 social housing projects, 70 of the planned within our project pipeline at various stages.
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But the budgets are small and timelines uncertain. It's Saturday morning in Kylie to Township, which is several kilometers outside of Cape Town, sounds like the church services have already started. There are rows and rows and rows of shacks made of corrugated iron, also rows of public latrines, and people are getting water from a communal tap. Noliametetekome has lived in a shack here for most of her 49 years. She spends a quarter of her meager salary on transport to her job in the city, and she does not expect the election to change that.
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Because I'm tired about what? Because I was what before, but it didn't say change. Still I'm staying here.
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But the end of apartheid did bring political rights and freedoms for all. But on the eve of South Africa's seventh democratic election, enduring inequality still divides this country.
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Police in Hong Kong have arrested six people for writing messages which the authorities say advocated rebellion against the state. The arrests of five women and one man are the first of their kind under the Chinese Territories' own security law. Here's Celia Hatton.
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The arrest come ahead of a politically sensitive date in Hong Kong and mainland China, June 4th. In the past, before Hong Kong tightened its security laws to outlaw political descent, thousands of people would gather in Hong Kong to remember pro-democracy demonstrators killed near Bay Jin's Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989. Such commemorative events have now been deemed illegal. The authorities say those arrested on Tuesday include the noted political activist, Chao Hong Tong, who was part of a group dedicated to remembering June 4th. Ms Chao, who's already behind bars, is accused of pushing the others to share messages connected with a sensitive date.
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Celia Hassan reporting. Start a calm, a special report from the besieged Ukrainian city of Harkiv.
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This is Nizmayo. It's scary. I hope the Russia was not a terrorist state, but the heat civilian place is now too. The Russians are killing civilians, and we have nothing to defend ourselves.
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As we record this podcast, Georgia's Parliament is expected to push through its divisive foreign agents law, and move many seers a step away from the West and towards Russia. The policy sparked weeks of protests. It's already received a presidential veto, but the ruling Georgian Dream Party has been saying it'll overturn that. Opponents of the law fear it could be used to stifle descent and make it impossible for Georgia to join the European Union.
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Our whole future is at stake. If we're not with Europe, we have no other choice. Like, it's either Europe or nothing. I think actually today is one of the worst days of Georgian history. So even though we're on a fighting mode to fight the Russian law till then, I think all of us are a bit of sad because seeing that it is all done by Georgian hands is super hard. We've got to say no for Russia, because Europe is only choice for us, and our futures should be European.
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With the vote, Eminent, I spoke to you, Ray Hendometri, outside the parliament building in Tbilisi.
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They are here, the protestors. It's hard to tell how many are here. They're making quite a lot of noise. There's also quite a lot of police on side. And at this stage, most of the protestors are kind of at the back entrance to the parliament. Very poor mobile connection here, but still I can see a lot of people are trying to watch on their phones What's happening inside Parliament and this vote to overwrite the presidential veto is to happen any minute now And they know that the governing Georgian dream party will override this meter because that's what they've been announcing over and over again. And we're asking protesters, so what's next for you? What are you going to do? You've been protesting for more than six weeks. And they're saying that the only way for them is to continue their protest because this is not just about the law, it is about Georgia's future. And those who are protesting against this law, they want to see the future of their country in Europe. And they believe that if this law is enacted in Georgia, it will suppress, dissent, it will suppress critical voices. They call it the Russian law because of the similarities with the foreign agents law in Russia and they just don't want to see the same thing happen here.
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And borrowing the government changing its mind, which seems unlikely, is that it, when the presidential veto is overturned any moment as we expect, it becomes law on that that people can protest if they want to.
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Most of the non-governmental organizations and independent media that this law would target, they have already said that they won't comply, they disagree with it, and it means that perhaps a lot of non-governmental organizations will be shot. All of this is happening just months before the parliamentary elections in October.
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right-to-metry with me from Tbilisi. Belgium has become the latest European country to say it will send F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine as part of a package of aid worth nearly a billion dollars. The Netherlands, Denmark and Norway have already promised to send F-16 to help Ukraine fend off Russian attacks. The Belgian Prime Minister Alexander DeCru made the commitment to send 30 jets, stressing the urgency.
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Let me be very clear. Ukraine can only push back the invader if we provide more and if we provide better arms and if we are able to do it in a faster pace. As Europeans, as NATO members, we fully acknowledge the need for that and we fully acknowledge your demand for that.
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Russia has been increasing the military pressure on Ukraine, and particularly the country's second city, Harkiv, to guided bombs destroyed a shop and a garden centre crowded with people on Saturday. Our international editor Jeremy Bowen reports from the city, which is feeling very much under siege.
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Well, we're in the cellar under our hotel in Haqqi because there have been a number of big explosions and there have been reports as well of ballistic missiles coming into the city so we're taking cover. Once we get the old clear, we're going to head over to the scene. So I've got inside the print works, and that was hit in the Russian attack. The roof's gone, there's smoke. It's hard to know why the Russians hit this place. But what is absolutely certain is that Ukraine is weren't able to stop them. Not one of the missiles was intercepted. The war right now is about hard choices for Ukraine. It's a fighting an enemy that realizes their weaknesses and has worked out how to exploit them. Days after the attack, Elena Lupak, one of the workers at the plant was still in hospital, battered and cut by Blast and Shrapnel. Her hair was badly singed, where it had caught fire. And Elena, for the first time in the war, was terrified.
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There's no listener. It's scary. I hope the Russia was not a terrorist state and with only attack military targets, but the heat civilian place is now too. And I'm really scared. The Russians are killing civilians. And we have nothing to defend ourselves.
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And the Russians are not very far away. The border is closed. They're hitting hard keve as it was that this time last year.
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It's not like it was at the beginning. But this is not the end. We are still in the middle of it.
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We're bumping along an improvised road through a field. It can see massive plumes of smoke coming from love chance, because that's the place which has been the centre of the fighting. There are multiple fires burning. I can see that black smoke towering into the sky must be pretty hellish to be in there, mercifully we are quite away from it. Do you have a vehicle that I call it just to have a conversation that they would be behind the gate?
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So she persuades her to leave, so she will get any kind of support she needs, anything she needs.
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She doesn't want to go.
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Very dangerous to stay here. Please put up this leave.
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Get your mind on the entrance.
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So a few streets away in the village, there's Liu Boff. She's an elderly woman.
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She's packed and ready to go after more than 40 years in the same house.
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Leaving hurts, my soul, she told me, but the sharing made sleep impossible and it was so close that all the windows were smashed.
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Thank you, be back soon.
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We'll see it depends on if it's Russians or Ukrainians here. That's going to make my decision for me.
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Parkivism just a city of war. It's a beautiful early summer day, cafes are open and outside the Opera House. Boys are skateboarding on the stone steps, practicing jumps and inside. They're still playing music. They've improvised a walk-hitter and the orchestra is here rehearsing for a music festival, but that can't obscure Ukraine's real challenges and the tenacity and the strength of the Russians and the hard summer that lies ahead.
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Jeremy Bowen reporting from Harkiff. Pope Francis has been heard using a highly derogatory term for gay people. He was speaking a week ago in a private meeting with Italian bishops. As we recall this podcast, the Vatican has issued a statement saying the Pope didn't intend to use homophobic language and apologizes to anyone offended. Our religion editor Ali MacBull reports on the incident.
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When asked at the Italian bishops' conference if gay men should now be allowed to train for the priesthood as long as they remain celibate, Pope Francis is reported to have said, no, saying there was, in the church, already, too much of an air of in Italian for a charge in a, which translates as an extremely offensive reference to homosexual behavior. There were said to have been shocked at the Pope's language during the closed doors meeting, particularly as he has in public, talked to being respectful towards gay people. Progressive supporters of the Pope have long argued that while little has tangibly changed in terms of gay rights and Catholicism, Pope Francis has changed the tone of the Church's attitude.
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Our religion editor Ali Maghbal. Sri Lanka's economy is on track to stabilize this year after a severe financial crisis, which plunged a quarter of the country into poverty. But the government has sparked concern by ordering the country's tea producers to increase wages by 70%. Puntation companies are worried to make their tea uncompetitive. So how important is tea to the Sri Lankan economy? Victoria Iwanda spoke to our business correspondent Monica Miller.
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Well, it is massive. It is $1.3 billion worth of salon tea. And it applies about $615,000 in workers. And the, you know, Sri Lanka annually exports about 95% of roughly about 250 million kilos of tea it produces. So the government has ordered its worker salaries to be increased to $5.66 in US dollars per day. Now that is from what they are currently being paid a $3.33, which the industry says will increase tea production and cost by about 45%. However, representatives of the plantation say that this increase is going to make it much much harder to compete against its key rivals India and Kenya, which have lower prices and higher productivity. So the industry needs to start paying these increases according to the government starting next month.
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So we've talked so many times here on the program about the challenges that have been in the struggles that Sri Lanka and the economy has been going through for the last few years. Just remind us briefly those challenges.
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Well, the fallout from Sri Lanka's financial crisis. I mean, this goes back to last year. Actually, you know, it had been building up that there were some issues with fallouts from foreign exchange in 2022 that's leader at the time. Mr. Rajapaksa had left the country because there just wasn't currencies. The US dollar they ran out of, which was paying things for imports, fuel, medical supplies. There were food shortages. It credibly bad. And that was after the COVID pandemic.
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Now, do you recognize this? This is the sound of the Routon Clan formed in Staten Island, New York in 1992. And why do you regard it as one of the most influential hip-hop bands of all time? Now a unique CD by the collective whose members include Method Man, Inspector Deck and Ghostface Killer, is being given top billing into museum on the other side of the world in Tasmania. I asked Tiffany Turnbull in Sydney, what's so special about the album?
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that's housed in this ornate silver box inside is apparently a CD, the only copy of this album in the world. It comes with a leather bound book of lyrics and it's been learned to this museum in Tasmania where it will be put on physical display, but it'll also be played for a select number of people.
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And the only dear is the understanding of the album was a sort of rebellion against streaming, which the band thought made music to why it'd be available, less of a precious commodity?
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Yeah, the band has said that they wanted to kind of take it back to a 400-year-old Renaissance style approach to music, where they were offering this really highly sought-after commodity. their producer likened it to a Picasso artwork or an ancient Egyptian artifact and the museum says that they're helping this vision come to life because obviously only a few people will be able to listen to it but it will also be housed alongside all of these other pieces of fine art where it belongs the museum says.
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And the value of it makes it very elite, very inaccessible to those people.
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Yeah, so because it is so rare, being literally the only copy of this album at all, it sold for $2 million, way back in 2015. And that went to Martin Schrelli, the disgraced former pharmaceutical executive, and when his assets were seized, it was sold again, reportedly for about double that. So it is the most expensive album ever sold.
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Unsurprising it was recorded in New York but maybe more surprising it ended up in Tasmania. Why there?
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Well the museum that's putting on this exhibit is very well known for, I guess, stunts like this, exhibitions that make people think and that museum in Hobart called the Museum of Old and New Art. They're doing a exhibition about name dropping which is about status and notoriety and celebrity and the curators said that he couldn't think of anything else that he wanted more than this, this album that could demonstrate those themes.
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And that's all from us for now. There'll be a new edition of Global News to download later. If you'd like to comment on this podcast and the stories we included, drop us an email, global podcast at bvc.co.uk or on x. We are at global news pod. This edition was mixed by Pat Sissons. The producer was married and straw. And the editor is Karen Martin. I'm Andrew Page. Thanks for listening and until next time. Goodbye.
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