Transcript for #1156 - Jimmy Dore

What's up? I Joe, how you doing? I'm doing good. Now we're on the radio. Fantastic. It's 3, 3, 2, 1. The 29 minutes before 4 o'clock. Here's Val with the weather.

Wow. So how are we got a car fire in the breakdown lane?

Yeah, so he was I just caught the end of it. I sent went in the green room and I like you know everybody loves Henry Rollins, right? And some Henry.

Yeah, but he was doing that thing about, uh, oh Putin, you know, there was a journalist wrote a book about him ended up dead. Putin's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. As opposed to who?

So, uh, well, here's the quote I wanted to send you, right? So that whole thing, if, if norberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged, since it says Noom Chomsky. Uh, Putin kills journalists. We just torture ours. So, let me tell you, Manning is a whistleblower. We took Barack Obama torture. So, we have our president, our, we have presidents and vice presidents who are legit war criminals that walk around today. Then a torture program. Okay. So, you know, Barack Obama got a peace prize and then he had a kill list. A peace prize winner with a kill list. a drone kill it would you keep the kill list next to the peace price where do you keep those things are they anyway so that's some of the people that were killer American citizens no do process no do process and so it nobody has a problem with trump being buddy buddies with Benjamin Netanyahu is a psychopathic maniac who shoots who shoots with precision uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... medics who are trying to help people in nurses and journalists by the way well some of

Yeah, it's kind of mind blowing. So I want to hear, and I have friends who do that. Everyone's doing this, right? Everyone's getting caught up in the hysteria. That's why there's a word called hysteria, because it happens and we're in one. And you know, what I like is what Nome Chomsky said about this Russia hysteria. That's happening. He said if you care about effects on our pristine elections, which he said very sarcastically, he said if you care about what's affecting our pristine elections, the Russia gate is the last place I would look. And the first place he would look, if you go right about foreign control or influence on our government, he said he would look to Israel. They're the ones Benjamin Netanyahu came here and addressed the joint session of Congress without the permission or invitation of the president. Remember when Obama was president, and he did that, he did that. That's a guy coming here to tell our guys how to vote in direct defiance of our president and everyone embraced him. Can you imagine the Putin did that? Putin came to America and addressed our joint session of Congress against the will of the president. So this idea that somehow because Putin is a bad guy Trump shouldn't have a good friendship with him is BS. The guys who are really influencing our government here are Benjamin Netanyahu Saudi Arabia, Trump opened eight businesses in Saudi Arabia, third the election and no one gives a crap about any of that stuff because there are friends Saudi Arabia, by the way, just bombed a school. Today, school bus, 29 kids dead. So yeah, I just retweeted that from Sarah Abdullah. So why would they do that? Because they're in Yemen. They're bombing. We're committing genocide in Yemen right now. So we're helping Saudi Arabia commit a genocide in Yemen. And the way we're doing it is they're doing a thing called siege warfare, which is a war crime. And we just, in fact, they just prosecuted someone a few months ago at the Hague for it. So but we're since we're doing it and we're the enforcers. And Saudi Arabia is on the human rights council. So everything's a joke now, right? So we're past it where it's at farce. We're living in this farce. And so when I see a guy that I love, like Henry Rollins, saying stuff like, oh, Putin's the special kind of bad. I just quote back Chomsky, we have little legit war criminals, just one presidency away.

Right now, we're trying to assassinate Julian Assange. Right now, are you going to pass out? Yes, they're trying to kill that guy. Yes, they want that guy dead. Hillary Clinton was like, can't we drone that guy? Can't we kill him? Yeah, she really did say that. Yeah, she really did say that after she just got done killing Kadafi and then laughed about it.

You know, I have seen video of him captured and in that look on his face. So I know what you're talking about.

I hit a dog with my car a while ago and I just can't have no stomach for any of that stuff anymore. I just I don't saw something when something that I had a real breakdown. Like we took it to the vet it lived. I didn't hit I didn't so I hit a dog it killed it. About a year and a half ago it might have already been dead because I think it was laying in the street because I didn't see it. So it had to be already lay in there anyway. So it, you know, I just, and then I saw, I was driving in my pot store in Eagle Rock and I saw this little black pup dog run across the street in front of our car and there's this big median like a grass median and it was, and I go stop, stop and the car's hasn't started coming yet the other way. And I stopped some of my wife stops and I jump out and I'm running. and I see the cars coming and they're just I don't see the dog anymore and then I see the dog next to the curb and it's kind of like just going like like that and it just crushed me like even out of think of it and you twitching like yeah yes it got hit and so we picked it up and we drank and we drove to a hospital as soon as we could I mean you know animal hospital which there was one not far away And it lived the dog lived, but I couldn't believe you take it as a pet. No, no, no, no. Um, they just might, my wife called back, you know, to the thing and they said, yeah, it's going to live and we have someone's going to take it. Okay. Thank God. But I, I was so surprised at how I just broke down over that puppy. The dog I ran over, I was like, numb to, but that dog for some reason to just everything open and I was just, I couldn't.

And so it's just like I can see and I feel like I don't know if I have this, but I feel like I have PTSD over that, right? Like I weigh over reacted to that situation. So there was a lot more going on there.

Yeah, so I can't even imagine guys who have to go to war and the stuff they have to see and the things that they have to do. I don't know how they all don't come up with.

Yeah, I've been, I've been to Afghanistan. No, but soldiers. But yeah, I mean, I know that not personally like they come to my show. That kind of stuff. I know those people. I don't have a close friend who was actually in combat like that. No.

and anything. I can't I can't believe we still do war like this. It's just you know, I'm very say I get in a lot of trouble because I'm anti war and all wars are bullshit.

Well, for instance, pro war. The entire establishment. is pro war. You know that every newscaster is pro war. If you're on, if you're not pro war, you don't get on TV. If you're against the war, you get fired like Phil Downey, like Ed Schultz, like Jesse Ventura, like Ashley Bamfield. If you tell like Chris Hedges, if you tell a truth about the war, you will get fired from establishment news.

I know it. It's a crazy crazy juxtaposition. It is weird. Ed Schulz was the one who said that, you know, he wasn't, he was told what to cover, what not to cover at MSNBC. He was told not to cover Bernie Sanders. He wanted to cover Bernie Sanders. Anyway, he said that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the head of NBC News Andy Lack were joined at the hip. And he tried to cover Bernie Sanders. He was told not to. He was yelled at by the head of MSNBC. That's how he described it. And a month later, he was fired. He was out.

Jank, he was told that our friends in Washington don't like your tone.

That's what they told. That is hilarious. And he was winning his time slot. And they told him that. And they moved into the weekend to give Alshalp. This is true. This is true. So they moved him to the weekend. And they said they wanted him to work on his presentation skills. Guys, winning his time slot. They're saying we want you to work on your presentation skills. And meanwhile, who they're replacing with Alsharpton?

I mean, suit on. Al Sharped did you ever see him try to read a teleprompter? It's brutal. Yeah. I mean, he's a great order. Yeah. But he's not a teleprompter, reader. No. And it was like, we used, I have clips. We used to make fun of all the time on my show of it. It was hilarious. And then the find out that that's the reason they gave was because he's a better presenter. He's a better, or he's a great order. That's different than being a news presenter. Right. And that is not in Al Sharped's wheelhouse.

Well, they have, there's a lot of, look at Brighton Williams. Yes.

They're working here. Yes, he has the 11th hour on MSNBC. So this is everybody forgotten. Everybody has forgotten. His punishment was he had to, he had to spend six months giggling with Rachel Maddo. What do you do? They do these shows. They got like these round tables and he has to laugh and pretend they all pretend they fucked up about him.

Yes, she was dead. And who was it? The was the comedian who out at her? It was uh, Simbad. Did he? Yeah, it was Simbad who was on that trip. And he's like, it was not a sniper.

Yeah. So it's just, it's always shocking to me when I find out that politicians are lying. Is it it's okay? It's really terrible in the truth. They're all, it's, it's weird. It's, it's such a, only the, the, the purest of people are drawn to that, the freshness. Whenever I find out that there are narcissists, Megal, it's not a cystic megalomaniacs. I'm always shocked.

So that's why it comes back to when he was talking about how Putin is like, hey, I want to tell Trump slow down. Don't be friends with this guy. No, I want Trump to be friends with Putin because he's a nuclear power. I want Trump to be friends with anybody. We need data. You know, NATO is the one wrapping up tensions wrapping up tensions with Russia. And we have ever since the Cold War supposedly ended. And so, you know, it was just to feed anyways. So I just think, yes, Putin is a bad guy. They're all bad guys. Just why, you know, I just had John Kerry Ocu on my show. I don't know. So he is XCA guy. He went to prison because he exposed the torture program. Yeah. So Robert Mueller actually prosecuted that guy. So now he's a member of veterans intelligence professionals for sanity vips and they were They were invented or they were originally organized to debunk the weapons of mass destruction about Iraq so they were Intelligence professionals who knew what was happening that this we were being sold a bill of goods because the military industrial complex wanted it's war right? And so they they were like all the top guys Ray McGovern bill Benny and they and they created this organization to help debunk it

Yes, right. They tried to throw and the FBI tried to throw him in jail and of course he's the smartest guy at the NSA overhead. So he outsmarted the FBI. Well, how did he do that? So he had the story. I forget the story. He told it to me, but he had them secretly recorded saying certain things. And so when they tried to show the evidence against him, he's like, actually, I got you guys and they're like, oh, shit. And so they could and so he had him so he outsmarted them and he tells the story on my show. I you know was a buddy year goes. I don't remember exactly how it went, but he told me a lot of mind blowing stuff on my show a lot of stuff just You know, like about how they spy on us.

So William Benny invented a thing called thin thread. So thin thread was a data collection. So what he did is he hooked up every cell phone to every cell phone in the universe. And he did it. And it was hard to do. And everybody said you couldn't do it. He did it. And so he knew that metadata was more predictive than say if I tap your phone and listen to your actual phone conversation, they actually learned more by looking at a larger data set. And when when when contact start happening, that means movements happening. That means an attack is going to happen. That means more. So it the metadata means more. And so he found a way to track people and keep your identity secret. So it was constitutional. That's what he cared about, the Constitution and the right to privacy. And thin thread did that, it was a better, and they got rid of thin thread in a couple weeks later, 9-11 happened. So that's what bill so that's who Bill Bini is and so he said they got rid of it because there's billions of dollars in the new pro they brought in a I think it was called trailblazer out and not as good as a tracker not as good as a metadata thing and but it was you know five six billion dollars to booze Allen or whoever invented it and that's what it says all about this is all about money and you don't want to disappoint people who want to have a lot of money paid their way and then so that's what so he blew the whistle on that and they come back at them and they try to put him into it. That's what they do whistleblowers. That's what we do. So that's funny to hear him say, oh, somebody wrote a bad book about Putin and they ended up dead. What do you think we do in this country? Look what they did to Chelsea Manning. Look what we did to people who exposed war crimes inside of our country. Right now we're trying to try and this act to make Julian Assange. They have them in basically solitary confinement. We literally did torture Chelsea Manning. So, and then you know, Barack Obama used He prosecuted lots of whistle blowing journalists using the enom blanking on the word. It's called, but espinaj act. So this idea that, yeah, I'm sure Putin, maybe Putin did, maybe that woman who wrote that book about Putin has a lot of powerful enemies. Usually you do. When you were that kind of a journalist where you're exposing the powerful, you probably didn't just expose Putin. So she probably exposed a lot of people. My point being is that, you know, now who's being naive gay?

Yeah. Yes, it is. I'm not denying that. Yeah. Barack Obama had a kill list. Yeah. So these guys are out. You know, he took us from two wars to seven. He did Libya, turned it into a failed state. Right now they have open slave trading. I know. You can watch it on YouTube.

So, so dark. And they want to do it again. They want to do it in Syria. So, let me ask you a question. If we get rid of the side in Syria, do you know who takes over?

Elkida, El Nusra. Yeah. So that the crap.

That these are always happens. The Wahabi terrorist funded by Saudi Arabia. That's who takes over. And I have videotape after videotape of our top officials admitting that Saudi Arabia funds ISIS and that we also did. So and that we created. We created Elkida. We got we created and ISIS was created because of our invasion of Iraq, but then we actually fund them and we shipped them arms. So for what reason to go over throw a side so we can put a pipeline through Syria.

This isn't the first time we did that. We funded Al Qaeda so they would fight the Russians. Right. So this is the same, and then we, that was when was the Mujahadi. That's when they were the Mujah, yes, Mujahadi. So, and I have video tapes of Hillary Clinton screaming about this. We created this problem. She says this on video. I have it. So, um, That's why I get in trouble because I tell the truth about the war. And if you tell the truth about the war, you'll be called a conspiracy theorist by the establishment news. That's exactly what's happened. That happened to me. Are you conspiracy theorists? No. That's what they say. You know what the biggest because I tell the truth about Syria. Right. The biggest conspiracy of my lifetime was their rack war. That was a conspiracy.

So let me tell you something Trump will be allowed to be president and was allowed to be president because he's doing the bidding of the establishment. They're on board with most of the stuff he's doing. They're like that he's he's not he's not pulling back at any of the wars. He's they've all ramped up the military budget isn't it funny?

Well, he's nothing's happened. Right. So again, it's and by the way, what they've gotten him on is all regular corruption. Like I said, Trump is corrupt. Yes, he's corrupt. He's corrupt with Cassati Arabia. He's corrupt with Russia. He's corrupt with Israel. He's get they're all corrupt. But he's the Clinton Foundation. They're all The Chomsky quote, they all be hung if we've applied the Nuremberg standard. So this is the world we're living in. So this idea that somehow we need to focus extra on Trump and somehow put, and you know what journalists, the anti-putton journalists in Russia will tell you that we're a bunch of num skulls over here because we're inflating Putin's power. So we are blood, like he's this all powerful guy who's got his finger in every decision, everywhere at all times. Elisabeth Alonos now blaming the The green party being controlled by the Russians for an Ohio election, a special election. I'm not kidding. I could show you this way. You take some malano. You think I've, and I who does a lovely list of malano, right? She's beautiful. She's one of the prettiest of all time.

Did she know you were?

She says, you know what sucks because of our unwillingness to pass policy that protects our election integrity. I immediately think the green party votes and tonight's our Russian meddling. Why else would Eddie would cast a protest vote in Ohio when there's so much at stake?

that's what she's saying so what they've gone past so now the hashtag resistance have gone beyond voter shaming and now what they're actually doing is democracy shaming you don't get to participate in democracy and those people so let me tell you something people say all you know the greens take away vote I would not have voted in the presidential election, if I did not have the opportunity to vote for the green party. So those votes, you don't own those votes. The way electoral politics works is that if you don't have enough votes to win, you have to go get them. And you have to appeal to those votes, but they don't have an appeal to voters. The Democratic Party, they have nothing. And so what they have left is fear and voter shaming. And that's it. Now they're actually shaming democracy.

That's what it is. So I used to have a joke, or I would say, no, you can't vote for a third party candidate until a lot of people are already voting for a third party candidate. Exactly. That's what they say. You can't vote for they have no chance to win. So you have to wait till a lot of people are already. So that people don't understand that inherent contradiction. And by the way, people maybe if you spent a tenth of the energy trying to excite the half of the country that doesn't vote as you do and trying to shiver shame progressives or green party or environmentalists for not giving you their vote, would you do not fucking own?

If you would have spent a tenth of the energy trying to excite people who don't participate to participate instead of shaming the people who do participate maybe you'd get somewhere.

And if these people really cared about voting integrity, wouldn't they want paper ballots? If they really cared about voted integrity, wouldn't they want rank choice voting? Wouldn't they want that? Don't you don't have to worry about this? right so it's where so you know you you get to this is my first choice this is my second choice this is my third choice so you don't get to so it it eliminates that you're a spoiler right yeah so and and they voted in in Maine and the politicians of course don't want it so they got rid of it And they had to court reinstate it. I think it's happened twice now.

Let's say there's three choices. So you get to say, well, let's say if your first choice was a green party candidate. Okay. That's my first choice. But my second choice would be the Democrat. So in my third choice would be, you know, maybe nobody.

So if you're first choice doesn't get enough votes to win, then your second choice goes, right? So that's how it works. So you're never wasting your vote. And you know what's ironic is that, and I might have, you know, there's people who can better explain that. So I know people are going to be, Jamie, the way better way to say that, I'm sure there's better ways. But the thing that kills me is that Bernie Sanders, his whole career was about being an independent and I have video tapes of him saying you know what kills me as I go out they do I do these talks and I think the doctor people they come up to me after these debates and they say you know I like what you said and you you make the most sense but I can't vote for you because you're never going to win I hate that they go I want to waste my vote off there's one thing I ate more than that's that's phrase waste your vote this was what he was saying his entire career until now And I want to know why I want to know what the hell this Bernie Sanders in 2018 know that Bernie Sanders in 2006 didn't know and Bernie Sanders in 1996 doesn't know and they tells everybody you got to run and he's you know getting people to come into the Democratic Party, which is actively cheating them yet he's still running him and him yet he still runs as an independent in Maine. I mean in Vermont He still runs everybody say you got you can't he gets to run as an independent he gets to run as an independent while represented democratic parts.

He told everybody vote for Hillary. He told that. I mean, he's not starting a third party. And, you know, his whole life, he was like, he said that we have to have the the verbi she used one time, my son was that, you know, Jesse Jackson's correct. We need, we need a rainbow coalition of people. But it has to happen outside of the Democratic Party. He said that that was him. So we have to have a progressive coalition, but it has to happen outside and who better to lead it, but Bernie Sanders. So that's why it's hard to start a third party because you need people who are already famous in popular and in government. So if he left, and he got, say, Tulsi Gabbard and need a turnering El Exangior causa record, and he got a bunch of people that are super popular on the left, we'd have a third party that would be polling at 10, 15%. And now the Democrats would have to John former coalition instead of what they're doing now, which is ignoring progressives after she cheated Bernie Sanders after the Democrats cheated Bernie Sanders in the primary Hillary Clinton didn't choose Bernie Sanders as a vice president as a olive branch and choose Elizabeth Warren as an olive brand. She went to her right. She got Tim Kane, who's to the right of her, who's anti-union, who's everything bad thing you want in the corporate Democrat. He's pro-walled the whole deal. So if we had a third party that actually pulled at 10 or 15%, they wouldn't have to, they couldn't do that anymore. They'd have to do a thing called Joe Voter Outreach instead of voter shaming, or it's what it's devolved to now, which is democracy shaming. They're literally shaming people for participating in democracy. You don't get to participate in democracy because you're a third party. We'll fuck you. That's called democracy and so yes I do and I get to vote my conscience and we'll be right back.

That was completely involuntary.

There's no doubt there's no denying that. He's occasionally very hilarious. Yes, and I told you what happened. I was walking up. He's having this they're just about to go at fist to cuffs the whole time. Yeah, and as I walk up he goes, Hey, I'm just trying to be nice. And yeah, the spit that I had a mouthful iced tea. That's my story. I'm sticking to it. Good story.

It was it was this concerning to me for a different reason. It was this concerning to me because it showed that he they could make got him to cave.

By the way, when they go, oh, he did he Trump contradicted our intelligence communities in public in Helsinki. And that's treason. No ass wipe. That's not treason. the president sets our foreign policy. You're not supposed to contradict the fucking president. Whatever the president says goes, and I hate fucking saying this because I'm not a fucking fan of Donald Trump, but God damn it, that we all lose our head and think that the unelected spies run our foreign policy, they do not. Yeah, spies spy our spy unelected Yeah, so and the ones who let us into a rack. Let's not forget that the very do anyway Don't you ever play that video I played almost a weekly on my show of Robert Mueller lying about weapons of mass destruction to Congress to get us into the rack war Well

Halberd and gave Dick Cheney a $30 million down payment when he became vice president. A little bit of this. A little bit of that.

His show became instantly way more popular. Oh, I'm sure. So okay and the unintended consequences I try to tell people that you know I'm not defending Alex Jones I'm defending you know the principle of freedom of speech you know people who are convicted of killers and one death row They still get their freedom of speech. You're allowed to print articles, and they're allowed to have, you know what I mean? They're still allowed to.

that they would what there was a straw that broke the camels back it seemed like it's not a recent statement that they said go to the court transcripts and we'll figure out oh there wasn't there wasn't a quote oh there's no hearing or nothing there wasn't a judicial hearing there was no come on they did they just what they they let some jack-off billionaire in the middle of the night on a whim fucking do this is that what happened

The government tells Facebook what to do a lot of times.

And so they bow to the government all the time because they don't want to be regulated. Right. So that's why they just they just started having hearings with the that's why they had those hearings should we regulate Facebook. Right.

Whoever is that guy who makes that compilation of your show, he does a good job. He does a funny job on those.

It's like he has to think about it

Look how slowly he tilted that glass. And him and the guy behind me have the same color tie.

It was so... Hey, what a better guy to protect us from fake news and tell us what's real news. And, you know, what's has integrity and what doesn't then a guy who made a couple billion dollars off his stolen idea from his friends? I mean, I think that's the perfect guy to fake.

Get rid just fart. But this is Matt Tabi wrote an article on this second, August 2nd about this. And there's been a lot of people being de platform from Facebook that you don't know about. Like, this isn't like, okay. So here's, here's what he's They shut down lots of other sites at the behest of the government and Israel, like the and the Atlantic Council. So pages like black elevation, they got shut down. A page called mindful being. They got shut down. A Facebook also wiped out no unite the right, too. It's which is a page appearing to advertise a counter rally on the upcoming anniversary of the violence in Charlottesville. So they shut that down, too. Let me just give you a quick quote from his article. He says Facebook was helped, and it's efforts to wipe out these dangerous memes by the Atlantic Council on whose board you'll find confidence inspiring names like Henry Kissinger, CIA chief Michael Hayden, former acting CIA head Michael Morrell, and former Bush era Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff. These people now have their hands on what is essentially a direct lever over nationwide news distribution. It's hard to state the potential mischief that lurks behind this union of internet platforms and would be government sensors. At Countries for you, one more paragraph, because this is exactly what we're talking about. He says it is already a scandal that these de facto private media regulators have secret algorithmic processes that pushed down some news organizations in favor of others, which they do. Witness the complaints by outlets like alternate truth dig and others that big platforms have been deemphasizing alternative sites in the name of combating fake news, but this week's revelation is worse. When Facebook works with the government and want to be star chamber organizations like the Atlantic Council to delete sites on national security grounds using secret methodology, it opens the door to nightmare possibilities that you'd only find in dystopian novels.

So by the way, so they're trying to put a bill. Have you heard about this in Congress to make police a protected class of people? So if you say shit about them now, it's considered hate speech. Did you know that? What? Yeah, they're trying to make peep.

And so now if you do have a rally, that's against the police. That's a hate rally. Yeah. And they can take your YouTube channel down. If you said hate stuff about the cops and so so that that's where we are hate speech the fuck. Huck him. I'm not allowed to hate shit by the way. Right. I hate Nazis. Can I say I hate fucking Nazis? I hate the KKK. Can I say I hate them? That's hate speech. Right.

When I was a kid, I hated the fucking Dodgers.

I don't understand what it is. There's hate out there. So what's wrong?

People don't realize how bad it is, Joe. You do, because you know this story. But people go, oh, good for Alex Jones. He shouldn't be able to do that to stuff what he's doing. I'm like, do not understand that this is the shot across the bow that if they can do this to Alex Jones that they're coming, I've already been trashed by the establishment meeting by the Washington Post by CNN. I've already been equated to pedophiles and those kind of things and conspiracy theorists that I've been in articles with Alex Jones. They've done it to me. So because I tell the truth about the war and so The antidote to bad speech if you really hate what Alex Jones is doing the antidote to bad speech is not censorship the antidote to bad speech is more speech if you think what Alex Jones is doing needs to be debunked create a Facebook page called to bunking Alex Jones and debunk him You know, Kyle Kalinsky does that kind of stuff all the time. People do that stuff all the time. That's how you convert. If you're afraid of an idea, you don't shut down the idea. You expose the idea and you debunk it.

My point is that 70% of the people get their news from Google and Facebook. And they're a monopoly. Right. So they have a lot of ballistic powers. Yeah, that was a that was a stat I read today. So you can't it's like, well, I'm reading that too.

Hey, they took they took stress. Yeah, why do you think it's a stress?

like Facebook article selling advertisements time to find a day so even even even even if you quibble with those you we can't deny like Alex Jones cannot now go well just go to the other YouTube there isn't a reason you hate just go to the other Facebook there isn't so we have to recognize that the way we are organized as a society that the town square is now owned by corporations who that need to be regulated right yeah Like before, you know, when AT&T was the phone carrier for everybody, they couldn't go, I'm not going to give Alex Jones a phone service because I don't like the shitty thing. You know, you can't deny services to somebody, all that stuff.

So here's what I say, Joe. We need to treat these as public utilities because they are right, Facebook. There is no alternative. There is an alternative to YouTube. We need to regulate them. It's long overdue, by the way. And they are monopolies. They're obvious to everyone that they're monopolies. When you invent something called WhatsApp and then Facebook buys it for $20 billion. there's a monopoly there's no way there's no way to to compete with these people so these are monopolies they need to be regulated and people need to be protected and it that's how that's where we need to go because right now we're leaving it up to the whims of a billion like you say hey if Alex Jones really did some shit that was wrong and he should be taken off or his free speech should be a bridge for it Do it. Let's see it go to a court or go to a thing or go people go well. He dox is people and he said if doxings illegal he should be prosecuted if that's what happened but you shouldn't take away did he dox people that's what they're saying they're saying he's that he's wanted he doxed people from new town or whatever

But again, if there was some kind of process, do process, we could go back and look at the transcript.

My fucking nuts might might point is we've had nuts people with at least to love that when I was a kid Joe maybe you remember Johnny Carson used to go ape shit about the national employer. Yes. Do you remember that? It was a big deal. He would stop his show and I'm putting my foot down about this. Yeah. They still have the national and nobody said take it out of the supermarkets. Nobody was like, we got a band that newspaper because we can't handle the ideas from this newspaper. And if they're still right there, you go to Ralph's. They're right there. They're the last thing you see before they leave. They're right at the eye level for kids. Yeah. Nobody what says take away the national and quiet. I went to Facebook. They still have a Facebook page. That national and choir. Yes. So it was the world news daily and you know what the first news news story was that came up on the world news daily was a British man can only defecate through his mouth. That was the first story that came up the first story. I need to have to look for it British man defecates through his mouth. I'm like this is this is like South Park.

Um, yeah, that you actually nailed that impression.

But on, again, people make the fall sick. Well, you're defending Alex Joe. I'm not defending. You're defending free speech. I'm defending free speech. And I understand the argument that, hey, it's a private corporation. I get that. I get that. But if you took a look at the bigger picture, these should be everyone thinks the internet should be a public utility. I mean, most people do. And that's what they're upset that they're not treating it like a public utility. Obama administration did. They decided to at the last minute. And so if you think the internet should be a public in jail, I think YouTube and Facebook should be a public utility also.

If you have them in fiction capital. But you don't. And if you do start it, they'll just buy you out. Like I just showed you the example of what's app with the they give me 29, would 19 billion dollars or whatever they pay for with some crazy. So that's they just eat up their competition right now. We need to Teddy Roosevelt to come along and break up all these monopolies. It's never going to happen. The end of the empire is coming.

I don't know, it's very curious that it all happened at the same time, right? And because there's a, there's a, in 1996, there was a law passed that actually, um, insulates the platforms from being sued. Did you know that? So like, platform. So if someone puts up something, and so like, say he puts something up that leads to someone getting killed, right?

You can't, you can't sue YouTube. You can't sue Facebook for that's in that 1996 law. So there's that. So I get that they're a private company, but again, they have to have the protection of the law. They have Congress protecting them. So they have a certain, that's a certain, that's a type of regulation. You're regulated from, you can't sue them, right? So I'm looking for this tweet by Glenn Greenwald that really, because if we're going to take down, here I'll find it. I'll find it. Here it is. He says, There's been a tactic of sensors for centuries. They start with someone who was so utterly hated and marginalized that everyone is blinded by their hatred for the first censorship target that they cheer and forget that they're endorsing a principal and power that will then expand. Yeah, and so right now they came for the Jews. Yeah, right now we're allowing the whim of billionaires in the middle of the night to decide who gets to be on these monopolistic platforms and who doesn't if there was ten YouTube's no one would care but there isn't there's one YouTube there's one Facebook and they are monopolies and that's the world we live in right now and that's why they're doing whatever the government wants them to because they don't want the government to regulate them That's why he went there and was sipping the water like that and trying to make eye contact and be nice because he doesn't want them to regulate him. He'll do it for, I'll do the Julian Assange in 2010, gave a speech which I saw recently on a plane where he predicted this. He was like the corporations are an extension of the government and they will do the censorship in the future and that's exactly what's happening right now.

Why did so why does why is Trump going after drilling a song? It's because he's afraid he'll expose him someday. I don't know. Why is he allowing the CIA to do that? To go after drilling a song and you know that just shows you how shitty the journalist in the era in America because not one of them are standing up for drilling a song and they're all pretending that when Trump says mean things about Jim Acosta that somehow that's this unbelievable violation of our freedom of the and our press and he's got you son of a bitch. You don't care if you cared about freedom of the press, you would say something about Julian Assange, and no one is saying, what lie has Julian Assange ever printed? Never been improved. Never. What did Julian Assange do? He revealed that our election was being rigged by the Democratic Party, not Russia, but by the Democratic Party, and that is a sin you can't commit, you cannot tell the truth about the powerful. And that's what's happening right now. And, you know, he revealed the CIA, has all those spine techniques that they can get your TV to listen to you, your phone, uh, vault seven, all that stuff. He revealed, that's why they want to get him. But I, and Trump, you know, I just think that Trump is just, you know, He's not really clued in, right? He's glad to let the generals do the job and his underlings. He doesn't really want. He wants to paint broad strokes and let everyone. You want to kill Julie Sons go ahead. I don't give a half. That's I think how he feels. I don't think it's his plan to do it, but everybody else underneath it wants to, and certainly the intelligence community and everyone forgets this. Chuck Schumer went on Rachel Madhouse show, like two years ago. And right out in public said that Trump is making a mistake by crossing the intelligence community because when you mess with them, they have six ways to Sunday to mess with you back. Holy shit, and nobody cared that he said that. So what he's saying is the president should be afraid of unelected spooks. Unelected bureaucrats. They should be afraid of them. That is, and no one went, what the f? Could you imagine saying that about Barack Obama? Hey, Barack Obama better be nice to the CIA. They're going to f with him. hasn't elected official.

Yes, and then we have Eugene Robertson in the Washington Post writing an article begging the deep state to undermine about Trump's foreign policy. Did you see that article? No, that's right. Pulitzer Prize winner first they spend all their life denying there is a deep state and then Eugene Robertson writes an article begging the deep state to defy president president Trump.

There's unintended consequences and here they are and by they're coming at they've already come for me. They're already coming for the left. This is how this is how this works. So, again, that's why I warned all my friends about the Russia gate nonsense. Chomsky said, if you care about the people meddling in our election, Russia would be the last place I would look. The first place the look is concentrated capital. That's what dictates who are going to be our government. That's why we don't have the things the rest of the world has because we have a capital, has captured our government, which is why we don't have Medicare for All, which is why we don't have free college, which is why we don't have an infrastructure plan, which is why we're in a world Meanwhile, people have to country's poor low income, 63% of the country can afford a thousand dollar emergency and quarter of all kids are in poverty. In the richest country in the world, Joe, what do you call a system that takes the richest country in the world and renders half of its population poor or low income? That's a failed fucking system. And that's what we're living in right now. And it's failing worldwide.

Should they do that or should they allow that episode to stream I so Here's a service solution if if there's if he did do something in a video that is illegal Take that video down until it gets adjudicated You don't the platform of 100 you don't give them the death penalty

I think you would, again, you would have to, I would like to see in some kind of adjudication, you know, again, the blanket policies and things saying things like hate speech.

Again, it's all interpretation. And by just a week ago, Mark Zuckerberg was defending it. He was defending that that we have Holocaust and Iers on our platform.

And that's not fake news. That's not can you're not going to take that down like I just told you. They have guys defecating out their mouth. They have this thing. They have the the the the the national inquire or they're still cool.

So this is a very squiggly line. Joe and again there's there's no board. There's no adjudication. It's not transparent.

Let me just give you one more thing about what he says. This is Matt Taibi. He says the sheer market power of these companies over information flow has always been the real threat. This is why breaking them up should have long ago become a national priority. Instead, as was obvious during the Senate hearing with Mark Zuckerberg earlier this year, politicians are more interested in using then curtailing the power of these companies. the platform for their part will cave rather than be regulated. The endgame clear couldn't be clearer. This is how authoritarian marriages begin and people should be very worried.

You should have an adversarial judicial process with an impartial judge or jury.

Well, you heard that. I mean, you heard Matt Tabi does delineate the people who are involved in this stuff. And by the way, Facebook's taken down pages of people who are Palestinians because the Israeli government tells them to what they do. Do you know about that, right? I had heard about this. Yes. So that's them doing the bidding. The government says, take it. Okay, take it. They don't get free speech. Okay, because I don't want the government to get mad at me because we're making so much goddamn money right now. I don't want the government to get mad at us. That's what Facebook and YouTube is doing.

I don't understand why you're, I don't get that. Do you get this? I'm not being a dick. I honestly, Why don't you allow to hate things? Right.

So a call for action might be, I mean, I guess it's a legal term.

And so did you know that right before a fourth of July there was a newspaper? I think it was in Texas and so they wanted to for the Fourth of July. They wanted to post the Declaration of Independence. So they posted the first half of it. Yeah. Did you know about this? Yeah. Facebook gave him a strike for hate speech. Yeah. Hate speech. They gave him a strike and so now they're like they were like

They picked up some of the phrases I'm phrasing in there about slavery and stuff like that and then being animals or something like that. I don't know something like that. I'm not sure what it was, but then the newspaper said, now we're afraid to post the second half of the declaration because we'll get a second strike and they might pull our whole page. Yeah. So again, they released that strike, correct? So what is this, Bill, what is this idea that I need a nanny state to protect me from ideas?

Well, even if it was, let's say it was. Let's just say you and I agree that it is. Okay. The shouldn't shouldn't there still be some kind of a process. This should be that's what I'm saying. It shouldn't be even if we agreed and again, I hate that guy. I hate it as much as you hate it. I'm with you and that people are gonna I know it's chill last time I was on your show. I said I said people are gonna take what I'm saying right now and twist it and that's exactly what they did to me. That's like so I'm sure people did who took it and twisted it. I don't know what they know.

they they twisted what we were so when we're talking about Seth rich they twisted and I said you know I did was cover it on my show until the state people still say I was pushing it I do a new show I covered it But even discussing it. And even you can't even discuss, like, I couldn't cover it, couldn't discuss it. And so that's exactly what happened. Pummi caught me saying that and caught some other stuff and put it together. And I was like, son of a bitch. But you're so what are you going to do, right? So what are you going to do? So I just want people to know, this is, again, I'm just as offended as everybody. I'm saying we need to have these things be public utilities for a lot of reasons. And that, you know, exactly what Matt TIE be said. what the endgame here is very clear and they want to be able to censor people they want to be able to censor and the first people are going to come after his left wing organizations are going to come after black lives matter their command they've already come after lefties like me Joe why do you think they're going to come after black lives matter what you mean they're at the hate speech against the police you can be the already said they're controlled by the Russians who who is they who's they saying that and who's they going to come after them what do you mean by that So, well, the FBI will infiltrate them. They obviously already have you know how that works.

Yeah. See know how all that stuff works. So, that's how that stuff works. And, um, and then just credit them. And then they, they will commit violence in their name and say, oh, look, Black Lives Matters are violent. No, that was a cop do in it. You know, that you know how that. That's what happened up and dappled. You know, that's the kind of stuff they do up there. And then the paper provocateur.

So that's the problem with Alex Jones. He's right about stuff sometimes.

My thing is that I focus on the ones that are important, right? That I think, that's right. I care about wars and the lies that are told about wars from the media, which the media pushes every war in my lifetime. So that's the ones I care about. I hear everything you're saying. Yeah, I didn't really know. I got us again. I didn't really know much about Alex Jones until the I met him. you know, very famously at that incident. I did really, I never really watched them. I went home that night and watched some of his videos, which is when I found out some of them are really funny. And so I just, I got, I didn't really know much about them. And so I don't even know this stuff.

but doesn't somehow have it probably on their channel and I did I never did videos about him or debunk by just you know it's just I well he wasn't in my sight line of sight I was busy making fun of MSNBC and CNN that's what I like to do yeah it's

that's what they say these things are that's the people who think the all these school shootings that they're all set up to make to so they can take our guns away they think that about everything they thought about the country music festival shooting in Vegas because they felt like hey here's a way to get those people on our side

No. Here's the thing, and I'm not the first person to make this point about guns is people who are big strong second amendment people say that, well, you know, because whenever I advocate for gun control, people say, oh, good, they only the government will have guns, which is, it's not a bad argument, right? I understand that argument. Uh, but the whole point of you keeping your guns to protect yourself from the government is that the government's going to take your rights away. So you need to have your guns to protect your rights. Well, the government already took your rights away. They're already reading your every email. They're already reading, you're listening on every, you already lost your right to privacy. They don't, you keep your guns while they took the rest of your rights away. So now you still have your guns. Now, why don't you go get your rights back? You have your gun that said, they're never going to do it. Right.

Right. And then he'll rest you for a future crime. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind. Well, they already kind of, yeah, they kind of do that now. They can arrest you for a conspiracy to commit a crime.

Oh, my god, that guy. I started following him after that. He made a joke. Yeah, what was the joke? I forget, but that was a lick. I guess pretty funny, by the way, too. I guess pretty funny. I don't know.

Because that story he tells us hilarious about those ice, they were ice cops, right? Yeah. Coming into his place.

You can't joke around about killing an agent because there's, you know, so if he had a serious XM radio show, he'd be fired right now.

And so I say about that. It's like so Nick can't make a joke about someone going into a university. Go ahead and next school shooter. That was his joke. Next school to the professor. Please go to Berkeley and go to the for teachers lounge or something like that, right? Which everyone knows is obviously a joke. He's a goddamn comedian Jesus. And he's a right wing comedian.

So but you can go on those same radio shows and those same radio stations and you can advocate for killing hundreds of thousands of people in another country that you don't know and nobody says shit all the time people do that people lie about so that's that's the word thing you know we can have a torture program in America nobody goes You know, it's just weird that the media goes along. They don't even call torture. They call it enhanced interrogation techniques because we're doing it. But Nick said that that's all of a sudden. So it's just such a weird, squiggly bullshit line of morality. And so, and now Nick will probably be better off for it anyway.

So no, what we do is we need to give all our stuff for free, except we do a couple of extra hours a week for our patrons. Yeah. That's like bonus. Right.

No, everything's free. We're really lucky. You're super, super popular.

I just I just wanted to start to cook at kick-in-free. When did you start to take off this show?

Was it an issue or what is it that you had a special guest on? What was it you think?

Because when I did your show last time, I just, you know, you're just in my head ever since. Like I I always like you are doing what I want to do like you don't I loved when I go Joe though cuz people always trying to spread it man. I don't know how I got into a position We're have to worry about being discredited. I'm a fucking nightclub jackoff comedian and after wearing that's why you're like I don't I announced cage fighting. I spoke the pot. I'm not a reputable person. I'm like I want to be you I want to be you. That's who I want to be. I'm not a reputable person. I don't fuck you.

I'm not, I'm not that guy. I want to be a provocateur. I want to be a guy in the outside throwing the spit balls. That's who I want to be. I want to be doing that. I'm not doing that. But somehow I got caught up in this thing where people are going to try to discredit you. God damn it. So it's like straight ahead.

Well, when I was a kid, I was told that they pee pee in your coke. And that's, I didn't, I know I was like. He Chinese me.

That's just the thing that they would tell us. Little kids.

But it's like, Joe, I'm the same people. The antidote to if such to the Charles Murray chat with the the antidote to that isn't to sense for them. The antidote to that is is good speed more speech.

That's why I say we need to have it be the YouTube Facebook. These are public utilities. They need to be regulated. And there's no way, there's no getting around it, right? They have super control in our culture.

It's a funny, that last moon buzz is getting in trouble for something he did to an actress instead of in the 80s. Yeah, and instead of him being So long time ago.

I was 1996 with the one. Oh, wasn't? Yeah. Okay. So that's still a long time ago. Yeah.

That was confusing that with, uh, you're, you're thinking of this, so that's just a loan.

And the kids, we used to call him happy hands-hall-hands, because he was a nerd. He was like, he's not a wrestling type guy. He would always come up like, hey, why are you doing this? You're just trying to grab me. And so we would call him happy hands-hall-hands. And we would get in trouble if they, if our parents heard us, don't get disrespectful to the, like, you know, he's grabbing our dicks. Yeah, so they finally they finally caught him and I don't know why I started talking about this but Yeah, why did I start talking about this? Oh, I know because we're talking I always we always they had George the guy we always thought It was like it was up to you to not get molested by it like if you got cost and we would laugh right we would laugh at kids who got caught so we he got a run faster fucker He would take us. He would take us. He had a summer house right with a boat and up in Wisconsin, right? So he would take us and it was like an hour and a half away. We'd get in his station wagon. He'd take like six boys up to there and we're going to go water skiing or whatever, right? And so he had the day set up where once you got there, you had to first do cleaning. So you had to change into your cleaning clothes. And yeah. Oh Jesus. And so every time we had to go in the room and change, you would find a reason to come in the room and wrestle one of us. Oh God. And then we were like, all right, we got to put up with it because we want to go in his boat. We don't wear poor.

He would take us, this priest would try to teach you how to ski. How do you teach them how to water ski? You put your dick in their mouth. Put your dick in their mouth.

No spitting. So the way you teach what I had it's water skis. You put water skis on them and they sit there on the dock and you pull away. Right. And that's how you learn. So he would take us in shallow water and then he would go, it would put the skis on you. So he couldn't run away. And then he would like put his hands. He would put his hands underneath your crotch like this from. Right. Yep. And then he goes, now when the boat pulls it's going to pull you up like this. And it's going to get that jerk off.

And so it was a fuck man. And so we looked at it like it was your job to get out of that situation. And if you got caught, we'd all laugh at you. I remember my friend Danny. He said this, you would laugh. We let. He said we said the shallow water and he's got now off the boat. And he goes like this and Danny looks at us. And then he goes, He goes, no, he's doing front of everybody. Yes, it were laughing and laughing.

Yes, and appropriate touch of he molested people. He had to leave the church and all that stuff.

He had to leave a Arizona for a sabbatical. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what we do. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, why isn't the FBI infiltrate the Catholic church?

Yeah, it's terrifying and all the money they take that you give them on Sunday to go pay these people off is also.

Well, so here's what has, here's what I heard of what happened. It was that. So there was two ways to become nobility and the beneath of the time you could be born, noble, or you could get into by way into the church. And so you could become nobility. And so what would happen is these rich mother fuckers who would buy their wedding as a church would die and then other money would go to their kid their first born and the church is like we gotta get some fuck we gotta get our hands on that money. And so they passed the law. Hey nobody can get married legally. They all did they still had kids and shit and they still had mistresses and whatever. But when they died all their money and property went to the church.

Yeah. That, you know, priests are still treated like rock stars in the Catholic church today. I mean, you know.

I had two uncles that went to seminary. One of them became a priest and the other one over the summer had a friend who got pregnant and he had to stop being to get dropped out of the seminary. Wow. But when you went to my grandmother's house, As you walked up the steps into their living room, the two pictures she would have, greeting you, was a picture of both her sons and their priest outfit. So one was actually a priest and one had to go with another. But that's the picture she kept up with. The guys bring it over as four kids to her house. There's the picture of it. Daddy, why are you in the priest outfit? At one point in time. Yeah. So yeah, that's, are you still released? You still go to church? No. Okay. No. I go because my I go to church about to church in Pasadena because my my mother-in-law goes and she asked me to go. Oh, it's it's probably fun.

to be processed.

But don't you, I mean, don't speak. Yeah, don't you think we're living in a weird era of like people wanting to just, uh, uh, discredit people.

Like, oh, you, you don't, you don't believe this one thing that the establishment says you have to, there's only one narrative on this Syrian war. And if you go, if you go away from it, you're, you're a bad person and you're a, and you're a, and you're a, you're aologist for a side and you're a Putin puppet. It's like, what the fuck? No, I just have a different view on the war, and it's based on facts and evidence. And I don't know if you know, but those people you're trusting now were the ones who continuously lied to us. So I've never lied to you about a war. You're upset because I'm skeptical of the people who constantly lie about war. That's just the, and so that's just a weird thing and it's like this, but I guess it's probably always been this way, Joe. I don't know. I just now that I'm experienced it because I'm in the public talking about this stuff. And it's just weird how people are so quick to go along with the establishment. Look at how the lefties are defending the intelligence community, wishing Robert Mueller a fucking happy birthday on Twitter like a bunch of idiots. That's so ridiculous. It's like, do you guys have any sense of history? Do you have any sense of recent history? No. It's just it's it's shows you how the hatred of someone could make people's lizard brains excited and then rational thinking goes out the so I love, you know, Ron Policone on my show says, you know, I hate Trump as much as anybody, but I'm not going to let him steal my critical thinking skills. And so that's the same. And so the thing that I like about

This is the acceptable parameters of this conversation. These are the acceptable ideas. And if you go over them, you are, can Persona non-Grow. Yeah, that's where it is. And then, you know, meanwhile, you turn on NBC, it's just littered with liars. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, that's the thing about, like, Chef Smith, like, uh, when he gets something wrong, I think he's just genuinely getting it wrong. I don't think it's because he's trying to push it in there. He might be unconsciously corrupted, but not consciously. How did he get over there? I don't see over there. I don't know when you tell me.

Well, you know, right wingers, you know how Sean met him. Right wingers used to hire Allen comms to come perform at his parties and he would just cover in the corner. And then for that. I'm kidding. I feel so I feel bad making fun of him because he's not alive anymore. He's not else and comes. I'm pretty sure he's dead. Oh, when did he die? Like a year ago or two years ago.

February last year. So yeah, he was this guy.

It's interesting, right? Yeah, it is. But that says Sean Hannity's eyes look like he's, uh, drugged up. Yeah, there she's anchor. He's eyes. He looks like something's wrong. Who's that chief anchor?

But let me tell you about what Sean Hannity has been doing is that woman of Alexandria Casio Cortez from New York who beat Joe Crowley and she's the big Democratic socialist and everybody's got their bushing and not over it because oh my god, uh, she's the corporate Democrats hater, the right wing. She freaks out, right? Because he's actually going to help people and Sean Hannity's been like reading out like they look what she like she wants to have us Medicare for all she wants to have free college she wants a living wage she wants to end the wars and people I'm sure almost half is out into like that sounds looking pretty good that's so I don't know if you know Sean things are tough out here in the heartland is that possible to do all those things we can I don't have to worry about medical bills for my fucking kids anymore I think that's why for that I don't have to worry about setting my kids to call it's awesome because you have more you have endless money for these wars. I'm sure you have money for us, right? I mean college subsidized. Why is it so expensive? So it's actually backfiring. In fact, there was a poll that Fox and friends and friends put out that said. Fox and friend and it said do you think the 32.6 trillion dollars for Bernie Sanders Medicare for all plan is worth it? Of course they left out the other part which turns out it saves two points something trillion dollars, right? That's the part they leave out to their gas lighting their own viewers just like all news organizations light of their own viewers. So they that pull pull went up and 73% of the Fox and friends in friends and friends viewers said they want Bernie Sanders Medicare for all 73% and 30,000 people voted in that poll. So that's not just nothing. So it's like so now they think that scary socialism doesn't scare people anymore because now there's the internet people can go look what it's like to live in Denmark.

Do you support Medicare? Yeah. Do you support Social Security? Of course. Do you support public education? Yes. Okay. Are you for public roads? Are you for the post office or for the fire department or for the, yes, yes, yes. This is also socialism. Yeah. You like libraries? Yes. That's South Socialism. Yeah. And good aspects to it.

Come on. So when I went to Norway, my friend Steve Owen to Norway, too, and something that he noticed is no region bronze. Oh, did we ever? Anyway.

And the guys get leave out the girl the fellas think I got to tell you they do wear comically tight pants the guys in Europe It's like you know my wife said it's like you know those she goes up the fashion designers are fucking with you. You know that right? It's like oh I always wanted to know what your keys look like shrink wrapped. That's fantastic How many comics you see on stage? You can see what their fucking phone make is, and they're key. Oh, you're driving BMW. That's nice. It's like what the fuck?

Skinny jeans anyway, but over there when they talk about health care, we go all you like free health care. We don't call it free health care. We call it included. because it's included in your taxes, just like your public education here, just like your streets and roads here, just like your private apartment. If I were to part when you're cut, it's included. We don't go, you get free police, you get free fire to part, but no, it's included in your taxes.

And so that's the funny thing that Sean Hannity and the right wing, they think they can scare people by saying, look all the stuff they're off, no, if the Democrats would have been off Hillary Clinton would have been offering people something, maybe half the country who didn't vote would have came out and voted for her. So that's the thing, Democrats have nothing to offer people, and which is why they're a shit show at a failed party, and they've lost their wiped out at every level of government. And so if they take over, it's like in the Congress, there's a big chance a chance they might. It's just, again, they're, they're the ones doing the bidding for Trump. They just handed him more money for defense than he even asked for. So if Trump is, here's the thing, here's the funny thing, if Trump is a maniac, they ought to say he's unhinged, he's a maniac, and he shouldn't have his finger on the button. Let's give him $80 billion for bombs. Those two things are in congruent. Those don't go together. So you're bullshitting me at one end or another.

Do you think his son's going to go to jail? You know, I'm not a good at predicting things, but they should all go to jail because they're probably all corrupt doing corrupt shit, but if you put a special prosecutor on anybody, I could they'll find crimes on anybody, you know, the stiff they're prosecuting Maniford for It doesn't have anything to do with the election or Trump's campaign. It's all shit before the Trump's campaign when he was in collusion with Tony. But that's the, from the Podesta group. He was bottling money from fucking Ukraine and they were giving it through the Podesta foundation. He's getting charged for shit that happened before he ever even worked for Trump. So that's the part they don't tell you they go metaphor charge, but then then 80th paragraph they go this has nothing to do with the election.

They put a microscope up Bill Clinton's ass about some land deal in Arkansas and end up going to a blow job in the Alville office and he got impeached for it. So they got rid of this special prosecutor after that because they realized that you'll find crimes at anybody if you put a special prosecutor on and they get and now they bring it back for Trump. They're not prosecuting literal fucking war criminals. Joe, literal, we know there were criminals. There was a thing called the torture program. We know that it was a real thing. No one goes to jail. Nobody's prosecuted, but goddamn it. They got a special prosecutor for Trump, not that they shouldn't. But we all know if you put a special prosecutor on anybody who was, they're going to find a lot of fucking crimes.

That's all the same game. This thing about not registering is for an agent, so they're all played the same game. They don't register as for an agent until they get caught, and then the government allows them to go back track and re-register. But they're not doing that. It's not all we're not going to let them at or for it. They made a mistake. So again, there's ways to oppose Trump. And the Russia thing isn't it the way to oppose Trump is you offer people something else. He ran to the left of Hillary Clinton on foreign policy. He wanted to end our foreign wars his according to his rhetoric in his campaign. He wanted to give everybody health care. Remember everyone's going to get health care and it's going to be cheaper. That was his plan. Of course he's now he's doing the exact opposite.

Oh, no, no, buddy. That's why no one. That's why democracy's not based on trust. It's based on mistrust. It's based on transparency.

I've been afforded protection. That was all gone. The day he got elected. That was all.

He'd disbanded his own followers, right? So when he got elected Barack Obama, he had all these young people who were activated, and they signed up, he had a mailing list, he had all their net, and we want to go do shit for you, want to go be at, and they were like, get rid of them, and he did. He got rid of them because you can't control them. They, yes, they fuck them. And that's, you know, and, you know, then Bernie Sanders has his campaign and says, everybody, we got to fight this fucking evil machine, and then on a dime, he goes, hey, by the way, let's join this evil machine. It's still anything happens. Um, I don't know, you know, I really don't know. I about it good at that. I know what people have said. Chris had just said that Bernie Sanders didn't want to end up like Ralph Nader who was unfairly held accountable again for the Democrats lost to to fucking on game show host. Okay. And that's what this is all about. They can't come to terms with this. And they don't want us to examine the system that gave us Trump and they don't want to examine how they could have the most qualified person. Look, couldn't even beat fucking Donald Trump. That's how qualified you were. You son of a bitch.

That was that. So, isn't it funny that nobody gets mad at them? Nobody's upset at Chris Hayes for having empty podiums of Trump for a whole show, which I saw. And then he wags his finger at Susan Serendon. You're the son of a bitch who propped Trump up and you didn't cover Bernie Sanders because you were fucking told not to. And we know that for a fact because of Ed Shultz. And now you're gonna pretend like you're a sanctimonious fucking prick. And you're going to wag your finger at people with no money and no power. Meanwhile, you have the biggest microphone of anybody. And you fucking propped on a Trump up. And you don't take responsibility. That's why he's a piece of shit.

That's why he's doing their bidding right now. All those people are doing their bidding because Ed Shultz revealed and filled down. And if you tell the truth, they will fucking fire your ass. They've got guys like Ellie Vesci and Rachel Maddo pretending they don't know how net neutrality works. I don't know. It's a good, it's a big thing. I know it's important, but I don't know. Wait, wait, we'll see how it's rolls out. I don't know what to do with it. That's what tools. Hey, I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, too. I'm just not being offered 30 grand a day to sell my soul. I would.

She has a pack that's supposed to be supporting women who are running for office except not Cynthia Nixon. Well, she's going to prop up the most corrupt motherfucker in New York is had for a long time.

She says that's what the gender base. She said she was starting a pact to help encourage women to run. That's I read that in an interview with her and I'm like, really? Why isn't that pact then supporting Cynthia Nixon? Why are you supporting, you know, what the fuck?

She's running a Democrat and she's running against Cuomo. And of course, I'm running for mayor.

I didn't know was that big. And you know, Cuomo is just one of the most corrupt moment. He's he system again. We have one party rule. We have corporate rule and all these people are in bed with the corporations because they're bought because that's the way our elections work. Right. And that's the problem. That's why Hillary Clinton has a private position in a public position. And I'm not saying she's the only one, but she's the one that we know actually literally said that because of WikiLeaks, thank God. And that again, I'll go back to Julian Assange. The fact that none of the reporters in the United States are sticking up for Julian Assange shows you that what they do is fucking wrestling, and they don't do real journalism. Wrestling.

Of course, I want to kind of come at you. Of course, if they want to, if the CIA wants to get you the first thing, do always talk about cheese or rapists. Let's get some people. And that whole prosecutor who tries to prosecute was discredited for doing so. They were apologized to Julian, besides the UN. Yeah, and the woman stuck up for stood up for Julie in the size and the woman. Yeah, so this is one.

They want to kick him out, right? Well, the ACLU is, I think, supporting him in the United States. So, and, you know, certain people of character are ours, I think, supporting him or the, I guess, not him, but the idea of Journalistic integrity, freedom of speech, the right to publish. If you watch that movie, the post, which was all about a Daniel Ellsberg and the Vietnam, the Pentagon papers, which exposed that four administrations were lying to us about the Vietnam War. Not a Republican, not a Democrat there at all. Again, the same fucking two wings are the same party, two right wings. It's the military industrial party. And the hero of that movie is the woman who was the head of the Washington Post, not Daniel Ellsberg. He was the real fucking hero. But how can you make that movie in this day and age and not mention Chelsea Manning? Not mentioned Edward Snowden and not go, you know, the Daniel Ellsburgs of today, we imprison them. And that's what we're doing. We imprison the Daniel Ellsburgs of today. And everybody, I watch panels of the actors from that movie and the director and sit around talk. Nobody ever brings the shit up. It's unfucking believable to me that they don't understand that they're just They're doing that's propaganda. Look how good our Washington Post is. Washington Post went on to let us into every fucking war after that movie was supposedly made, right? So after after they did that and they printed that they backed every goddamn war sense. They're the ones who told us that So I'm head a weapons and mass destruction and it was irrefutable. That was the headline on their editorial page. It wasn't some op-ed. It was their editorial board said irrefutable. That wasn't that fake news. Should they have their Facebook page taken down? That actually led to the fucking death of millions of people. So, this is why this is why I have a show. This is what I'm talking about. In a sense, thank God the media sucks so bad because now I get to do their job. I'm a fucking idiot. I'm a sea student, jag off nightclub comedian and I do my job better than they do.

I was just offered a TV show and I want to say by who and I was Satan and I was offered anything I wanted Jimmy you want to do you want to do five days in the morning you want to do one day a week you want to do this I'll give you your own studio your own crew the whole deal And I had to look at the guy, I said, you know, I've been waiting my whole career for someone to make me an offer like this and I just have to tell you no thanks. Wow. And he's like, what? What do you want? And I said, I don't want anything. I already have everything I want. And I, and I, I don't want to drive across town and go do a show and if somebody else is studio, I walk out my back door, I do my show and my garage. I don't fucking need your money. I don't need boss. I don't need it. I'm selling out theaters right now. That's what I want to do. I go, I don't want to spend less time on the studio and more time touring because that's fun. Dude, it is unbelievable. The best part of my life is right now. It's unbelievable. I'm so glad I didn't kill myself eight years ago. I was so close to killing myself. I'm so glad I did it. And it was my hatred for people that kept me alive. Amazing. Because I didn't want people, I already said this, I think, to you. I didn't want people to go, aha, he didn't make it. I was like, fuck you. I am making it, and then I'm gonna kill myself.

I didn't. So I was, I was just back in Chicago and I played a place called Thalia Hall, which is fucking.

Beautiful. I have a video up from that show on my channel. it was so I used to live when I started to be a comedian I moved to that neighborhood it was back then it wasn't a nice neighborhood right it was like a tougher neighborhood but I got to live closer to the city and all my comedian friends live there because it was affordable and now it's being gentrified and shit and they've got this new theater and it's not new but it's old and they refurbished it and it's 600 people and I came out and it was just like It was just like heaven. You know, and they're like at my whole career. I tried to figure out how to give people a stand up at the end of my set. Like how do I get what? I don't want to do it in a shitty way. I want to manipulate them, but I want to have it come from my heart and inspire people to make them want to stand up. You know, to get a standing ovation, right? And now they stand up when they come out. Wow. I don't have to worry about it. It's already done. So this is the greatest time in my life. And it's because nobody, you know, people can't get anywhere else what I'm doing. It's just nothing else like it. You know, Bill Marv got bless his soul. You know, he's a corporatist and he's part of the problem, right? And I like, I like Bill Marv. I love, I read his book that he read about, he wrote about common. I bet you didn't even know he had one. It was, it was really funny. No, no, no, the novel. Yeah, it's true. I think it was a true story.

I love that. That's a great boy. Who's one guy's name shit shit fuck chink and something else Yeah, he better be careful because that's not good about that book Yeah, ethnic slur that's right characters names.

Yeah, so he wrote about it. He bored about how comedy modern day comedy got started Yeah. And how it was really interesting about he would go on the road and it would be the feedback the first committee in a club had ever seen and they didn't know he was like the waitress didn't know he was leaving the next week. She had like that. It was like like it didn't sink in how things worked. It was such an interesting book to read. Anyway, but you know, now he's, you know, he pricked Braggs to give a million dollars to Barack Obama, which fantastic too, but did he really? Yeah, I'm out there. So, you know, it's just like I get it. I aspire to be Bill Mar. I aspire to be a millionaire for 30 years and a little bit out of touch. that's good for you you did it you did it so anyway but it's good you know again I get upset because I want him to be better or be more like I want him to be but it actually helps me right so the the more he's he shifts to the right the more his audience comes to me right and the more I get on stuff you as much as the name on stage of the live show people Boom, right? Yeah, it's progressives doing like him. No, he's he doesn't happen. What did that happen for Bernie Sanders campaign? Well, he doesn't get that there's a difference that there's a difference between Hillary and Bernie Sanders. How can he not get it? You tell me he's had heat we we I play videos of him saying that yeah now they were basically the same what's the big deal then these progressives are just being babies and isn't it funny progressives are being babies when they want support war-mongering corporates, but centers corporates start being adults when they fuck over progressives They don't ever accommodate them. They don't ever drop their values and come over and be progressives. We're always supposed to go that way. They never go the other way. The unity means, hey, you guys shut the fuck up and fall in line and become a corporatist. That's what they mean when they say unity. And the day it happened and I'm telling you Bernie Sanders is making a big mistake by not starting a third party right now. That's how you influence. If he does not win, the Democratic nomination in 2020, what does he built over these four years? Fucking nothing.

Yeah, he's gonna run. That's what this is all about. That's what this is all about.

He's running again. I'll make that prediction. I'll make that prediction. I'll bet you $2.

That's how my life, I can't believe it. I'm so happy. I can't believe it. It's so nice. And I have no representation right now, by the way. I've never even been better.

I was working with this guy Alex Murray, who's a great guy. I love Alex Murray. And he got me special. He got me Comedy Central Specials, who's especially sold a book for me. It's fucking great guy. I love Alex Murray, but he got real busy, right? He represents a bunch of really be Chris Hardwick and he had like anyway, and Jim Gaff again, all these guys he represents. So he got too busy for me, which I understand. It was weird. He stopped. So we stopped working together. Right is my show. Right, is that like, what the fuck? And all of a sudden people start showing up and clubs what I'm there and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And we start selling out weeks ahead of time. I'm like, holy fuck.

Yeah, it was the, yes, because it's something you did. It was, it was when I stopped trying almost.

Yes. That's same with me like when I stop censoring myself or over thinking like I would go on stage and I would have my jokes down to a science right and that's obviously YouTube is not that way and I just let it rip and that's the thing that connected with people so amazing and the burbank that they had that burbank comedy festival at that flapper's comedy club and they asked me to go would you do a you know your podcast here at that five o'clock on a Thursday or whatever and I was like okay I'll do it for you whatever And I did do without five people there who's gonna fucking show up at five o'clock on a Thursday in Burbank, right? Places almost full and I was like, oh, that's when I was like, whoa, what the fuck's going on? Five o'clock and there were girls there. I'm never forget this that they came from Compton. And they were like, oh, we had to get off work. We had to get a ride. We got here. We woke, we had to see, and I was like, wow, I'm really connecting with people, right? That don't look like me. But they sure the same ideology and it's just it's like when I would go see George Carlin if you ever didn't saw him live There were 80-year-old hippies and there were teenagers kids and there was everybody in between and that's what it looks like at my shows and it makes me so fucking happy It's it's so that's when it that's when it's for I was like Ooh, and I was like thanks flappers for making me do this joke is now I realize

Well, I really appreciate you saying that. And I think that there's a lot of common ground, especially when it comes to getting corporations, fingers out of our government and ending wars. I think a lot of people agree on that and that actually scares the establishment.

So just go to Jimmy door comedies.com. That's my website. And we're on the YouTube's at youtube.com slash the Jimmy door show. And I'm on Twitter, Jimmy underscore door, the whole thing. I appreciate your brother. Thank you. I appreciate it too.