Transcript for #1192 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Hello. I was smelling this weed in 12 hours. I'll be free.

Did you stay drunk?

Would you ever consider doing something like sober October?

That's the only reason why you do it.

Like it's like, you're also not smoking cigarettes anymore.

Yeah, you were finding that those pens weren't really helping you that much, huh?

Yeah, they did help you quit. Yeah, you were still, you were saying that it's not the same.

They said that Johnny Carson when he was on his deathbed was just rotting out from the inside. He was just falling apart. And he was like, those goddamn cigarettes.

No. I thought I've talked to people that have hooked up shit and it was black and they spit it on the ground and they saw black like a black luggie. Yeah, I was like, why did you quit immediately? Yeah, like no six more years.

That guy went through a rough patch. Not just that. Do you ever read the divorce settlements? Johnny Carson had to go through it now. He was one of the most famous divorce rapings, where you just go, oh my god, like you find out how much he had to pay his ex wife. Like, oh Jesus. He got taken. Oh man. Eddie Murphy had a bit about it. Eddie Murphy had a bit about Johnny Carson's divorce in his act. I think it was in Raw.

Wow, Carson's wife rejects settlement and asks, $220,000 a month in living expenses. 17 million is not enough, she said.

She looks kind of hot there. Like that dirty 40. That dirty 40 year old look. I like that. My goodness. Back then, that's like a million a month. Closing on her. That was the one he split up with. He gives up fast life and is secretly seeing wife again. Oh, well, that's the inquire. So that's, that's the gallery was married to that he had to give up 17 million bucks. Oh, so he's married to her for a long time. Well, how many times did he get married? That seems like the same gal there.

World's most expensive divorce elements. Johnny Carson and Joanna Holland. $20 million. That ain't shit. Now, we were going over some last night, or yesterday on the podcast, Steve Win gave up a billion.

Even then. Oh, how much is a consultation for you, Earth?

Yeah. Third divorce unlikely for Steve Win. Wow. Poor guy. Good lord. You think that guy's just keep going in. That's what's crazy. They're like, no, no, she's the one. No, no, it's never going to change. Yeah, he's got to figure it out.

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Stop it, Jamie. Google Elizabeth Taylor amount of times married because I believe she was married Yeah, I want to say she's like seven or eight times No fewer than eight times Yeah, she married a couple of guys twice eight marriages only seven husbands. She married Richard Burton twice. She married a bunch of gay guys, too Yeah. Allegedly, yeah, guys. Her first marriage, one of the areas of the hotelier, that's a weird word, hotelier, hotelier, hotelier, that I said. Conrad Hilton ended in divorce after less than a year. Yeah, she was a while woman.

That's its own business, right? You know, she was really successful as an actress. So she probably had the money and a lot of them because she was dating some guys that looked suspiciously homosexual. You know, like liberal arts, you homosexual. I'm like, wait, what?

A million bucks in 1963's probably like 20 million bucks today. What is the, Google that? What is a million dollars in 1963 worth today? That's crazy. They paid her that much money. Damn, whoever her agent is, dig that motherfucker up.

Wow, I thought it would be like 20.

That's, um, when you think of like, like, who's the top paid female today? Is it Jennifer Lawrence, maybe? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. What does she get? She probably gets like 20, right? Somewhere in that 15 to 20 range probably. Yeah. So, she sits on Elizabeth Taylor. Mm-hmm. Fucking hunger games, bitch. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, she married a bunch of gay guys, I think. See if you find out Elizabeth Taylor married gay guys, because that was like always to stand up comedy joke that when I was first starting out, I remember a bunch of guys had jokes about Elizabeth Taylor, but I never had a joke about it, too. But Elizabeth Taylor always married gay guys, like not knowing like that she's so old and fucked up on pills, just know the guy she's married in a gay.

That's probably one companionship. I think in the end there was rumors of substance abuse. I'm proliferally associated with these news stories. I don't really know them that well. I just remember reading something about substance abuse and drinking. Then there's always a rough man. And there's rough for a lot of people, bro.

That's the roughest of the rough man. Yeah. People who go out with those pain pill addictions. When you think about it, we were talking about Joey Diaz and I, we were talking yesterday about Prince. You know, he was, he called me up and he was singing to me. Can we sing with you that song?

What was the last time you listen to purple rain? He goes, I'm stoned as a mother fucker right now listening to purple rain. God damn, Prince was good. And I was thinking about it. Like Prince was just one of the many greats that we lost to pain pills, just real recently. Tom Petty, Prince, who else? We lost several, several, Big name, powerful celebrities to pain pills. Michael Jackson. No, he was proper fall. He wasn't pain pills. He was that shit that they used to put people under.

I think he was just so fucked up in the head. So he had so much anxiety. And he just couldn't sleep. You know, he's just a mass man.

I'm pretty sure they said that the profile falls would kill them because they couldn't sleep also. Yeah, you need to sleep and what that what he was doing is just getting sedated every night. I mean, that's the reason why his doctor went to jail. He called it milk.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah. Well, that's that's what happened to this guy that I know. He hurt himself doing construction and then gone on some pills, you know, because he had a back injury. They put him on pills and then

It would be nice if pain pills didn't do anything bad to you. They just fucked you up, but no physical harm. No addiction. No addiction, no physical harm. I mean, people are always going to be a people are addicted to washing their hands. I mean, people are addicted to really weird shit. Those are going to be people that are addicted to things and that they can't quit doing them.

I was real sick once and I got a hold of that real Nyquil in the 90s. It was the last time I took it. The real Nyquil. That stuff, I guess it was Codine. Was it Codine that was in there? Yeah, something like that, right? It's the old. It was a syrup. It was wonderful. It was wonderful. I was just, I was just, my pillow and my blanket was just cuddling me with love. And I was just lying in bed with a stupid smile on my face watching TV just like, ah, I'm so happy.

You got to get it from a doctor or shady doctor.

Hmm. So. Why did I think, is it like codine? Is it a codine? We've done this before. Yeah, we've talked about this before.

Somebody tried to give me some marijuana beer. Yeah, T-H-C infuse beer. Like you get that shit the fuck away from me.

Wow. Wow, that's interesting. Well, it would counteract the effects of alcohol in somewhat because one of the things about alcohol, right, is that it causes inflammation. CBD perhaps could counteract the inflammation? Yeah, one of my scientists.

You want to like, pal? I like these. Yep. I like joints that are wrapped in tobacco. These backwoods, jammies. These are my favorite. Because they give you like a little bit of elevation. You get a little bit from the, from the cigarette, the nicotine, the tobacco. And then you get the weed. Woo! It's a combo. Corona, Modella. Hmm, Corona Medell was the first to take the plunge, investing hundreds of millions of dollars into Canadian outfit in order to bring THC infuse brews to market in Northern Nation. Now, Molson cores, the second largest brewing in the world is reportedly getting into the game. The game. Yeah, that's what's going to be interesting is when, like, Smearn off starts investing in marijuana, you know, because they're going to. It's a hundred percent legal in Canada now. Canada is just, it's just like buying a beer. It's, thank God, Canada.

Well, I love you can fly at LAX with weed now. Heck yeah. Yeah. They say whatever happens when you get there is on you. Right. Yeah. Did you see the thing that they have in Vegas? They have dispensary like or dispensers from marijuana like at the airport? And then people break it into them. And they're stealing weed out of them. They're like, keep it that way. And they're saying, they're not free weed boxes. You ask holes with it crossing international borders with cannabis is illegal. Is that the airport there? Yeah, but does that mean going back or landing?

Isn't that interesting? Like you can't even bring it in. Even though it's legal there. Yeah. That's weird.

Yeah, there's the box. Disposable for prescription and recreational drug.

I have the exact photo of the exact same thing from Vegas.

You get your skinny arm in there.

Let me tell you. Super fucked up. Look, pot. Toronto air cannabis amnesty cans.

Oh my god, Jerry, this story about a girl who was, uh, she went into a porta potty and she, she thought she saw something. Like when she's sitting down and then she realized, like, she heard like, groans. She realized there was some guy in there inside the porta potty, just laying there watching the shit come out and hitting him in the head. Like, uh, was mouth open. Well, she's shitting and pissing on him. Oh my.

He's probably at a fucking snorkel. A porta-potty peeper, Luke Christo, suing Boulder for $99,999 or equal amount of gold coinage. Oh my, he's from Boulder, Colorado. He's suing Boulder, or he's, so it happened in Boulder.

Yeah, Boulder's a trippy placement. People been getting really high and Boulder for a long time. And there's no air up there. So if you get super baked in Boulder, you could blow a fuse.

You know what it's like? It's like one of those first class seats you get when you fly to Australia. Oh yeah, you get a little pod. Get a pod.

Hold on. Chris goes made his mark on the internet under a variety of monitors, including Omni Rainbow and Sky Orion, whose YouTube channel features clips, including this one, in which he denimends Straits his thigh rubbing technique.

Yeah, I wonder why it's been pulled from the internet. Look at them. So this is the guy. So he was he climbed in there to have people shit on him. Yeah. And how do you know that there was a girl? His reward for such patients was a sight of a slender black-haired white man. What?

Wait a minute. Don't scroll. What are you going?

But I'm reading that. Scroll back. a slender, black-haired white man standing between six with five and six with eight inches tall with cuts on his back and arms wearing only a pair of sweatpants. What is this about? Oh, so this is the security guard realized that he was doing something. Scroll back up.

What's that which is a week? June 2011, we noted that a woman attended the Hammand Festival stepped into a portable laboratory, and when she lifted the Toad's lid, she saw something moving in the deep dark depths below. Q-shock, horror, and quick escape, when she fetched a man and asked him to look inside. He too saw some movement beneath a tarp inside the tank. and after exiting the chamber he heard the door lock behind them at that point he summoned the security okay that's what happened and then they caught that guy so he's in there with a tarp hiding under a tarp while people are shedding on him look at his face is that the mugshot is there shit all over him oh god he's son of a bitch

Oh, look at this. He sat down with Fox 31 for a jailhouse interview in which you refer to spying on urinating or defecating women in quotes. The highest creature in the universe. He maintained as in quotes praising God and said in quotes, it sounds kind of weird. But I would just find my peace and go away. Say, thank you, goddess and go about my night.

Just to know that someone like that is a real person. Like you have to realize we sometimes you have to see someone like that to go, okay, I don't know everybody. There's a long range. You know, if there's a chart of like fucked up to like totally normal. Yeah. There's a lot of variables in there. And there's a lot of people that just don't fit into your ideal.

You should put- Don't do that off camera and expect me to keep secrets.

Just kidding folks. Just we like we love those guys. Just jokes. Just jokes. Yeah. Do you think we do? I think we know anybody looks good shit on. Jim Norton.

You know, they had this test they did with men, where they took men before we get any further. I don't know who conducted these tests of Jamie could probably find it. They conducted tests where they put devices on penises, who talked about this? Was Christopher Ryan may have talked about this? It may be our friend Chris Ryan talked about this. They put sensors on penises and they showed homophobic men, erotica. And homosexual, rotica, in particular, like guys getting their dick sucked by guys, and they got aroused by it. They put like these things on it. So that's what we would need to do. We'd need to like, ah, that all the phobic men are aroused by gay male porn. Here it is. Homophobia is associated with sexual excitement by male on male sex.

One study asked heterosexual men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups, men that are homophobic and men that are not. These men were then shown three four minute videos. That's a long time we sit there watching a dude suck at dick. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex, and one depicted gay male sex. Well, this was happening. A device was attached to each participant's penis. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not by other types of arousal, such as nervousness or fear arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in proper usage.

Yeah, it's dudes mouth.

And if a guy was sucking his dick, yeah. People don't realize the Japanese before fear factor. Japanese game shows were on another level. They were doing some fucking insane shit on Japanese TV. That was one of the, some of the early YouTube clips we used to watch was Japanese game shows.

Was that a Japanese show? First?

And then they had that show. That was kind of a version of it for America called wipeout, right? Remember that? Because that was the same people that produced fear factor, produced wipeout.

MXC. Hmm. So anyway. If we put these sensors on Earl Skakele's dick, and have someone taking shit in front of me. What the fuck? What did I do, guys? Nothing, Earl. We're sorry. We're just joking around. Oh, the girl got hit in the head. Now, here's the thing. I can't help but thinking that that lady's running through shit now. After we talked about it, I don't see that as mud.

Oh my god. So who's the giga? The guy I believe. The big guy's gay. Yeah. And the straight guy. Wow. And the giga says those pants are hot. And so this guy has to stand there. See if we can get Takuya. Oh my god. Of course, if he doesn't get hard. See, he might not get hard like this. What does the expression mean? Oh my god.

Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him.

Look at him. Look at him. He's throwing that at the end of that. It's a comment. I don't he have to have that. I would imagine because like a comment. Well, he's got took a shirt off. What happened there? Oh, shot. Thank you. I enjoyed that. He says, oh my god. Is that poor guy?

Oh, that poor guy. Just nodded in that dude's mouth. He says that's frustrated. A lot came out. Didn't it he says? It's so frustrating. No, yeah, but a lot came out. So the guys tell them the guys like dude You you enjoyed that you came really hard. It was like it was very frustrating because like yeah, but a lot came out like you came hard Yeah, but frustrating don't like nobody you liked it at the time because a lot came out I could only come out if it feels good That is they're evil That's a fucking what the person's mind You know? That guy's to think about that shit for the rest of his life.

The reason why I would imagine fact guy sucked dick better is because it involves food and and gay sex at the same time. It's combination of things like fat people probably like things in their mouth and then on top of that gay sex.

Uh, well, you get the whole thing. That, too. You're not choking. Yeah. You could deep throat it.

It's only flip it. I don't know. That's a terrible stereotype, but I'm really embarrassed that you brought that up in the show. Yeah.

Oh, okay. I get it. Like Samsung. Yeah. Exactly. I get it. Yeah. Yeah.

And she said, why can't you dress up as like Diana Ross? Yeah. I guess she essentially said, what's wrong with wearing blackface? She's like, why is it bad for, she threw one in that's not even really bad as it, like, she started with, why is it bad for a black person to dress up as a white person? Or a white person dressed up as a black person? Well, it's not. Nobody says it's bad for a black person to dress up as a white person. Dave should help to those TV show forever. Yeah, if we do that. Oh, yeah. Nobody cared. It's bad because these have menstrual shows. Like if she knew the history of it, like you go back and watch Al Jolson. Have you ever watched some of that stuff?

Okay. Other Al Jolson stuff? Really? Yeah, I mean. What happened? You go to jail? No, I'm just PC police.

Nobody cares. So her saying that was very disingenuous. It was just to cover her ass. So that's Al Jolson. So what? The jazz singer, Al Jolson. You used to wear a black face. Yeah. And look at what he used to do with his lips. He used to like make his lips cartoonishly exaggerated and he would sing. But he was like an obviously a white man singing in black face as a black man. It's it's really weird to watch and he would wear white gloves on.

Is it wrong that you came quicker than the guy getting a shit suck? Man. Man.

Well, the first movie with sound was racist as fuck. We got to realize the first movie was sound. Was that probably 1927? Okay, so that is what is that? 60 years after slavery?

Oh, Jesus team, Jimmy went deep.

That's good point. But what I meant was when it was a, I just like, I don't know, I don't know the date you're looking for like, it had been graduated over time. So yeah, because of civil war, right? Civil war ended in 1875. Is that what it meant? It ended at 65, but the resolution to abolish slavery was passed. Is that was 65? 64, I don't know. This episode is brought to you by Dr. Squatch. I'm gonna let you in on a secret. If you wanna be more confident, you have to start taking care of yourself. And a great way to do that is use Dr. Squatch, especially with their new private hygiene products. They were designed to help you look and feel fresh all over. Like the growing guardian trimmer. It's perfect for grooming above and below the waist and the ball barrier dry lotion helps manage sweat and chafing while beast wipes keep you clean front to back. It's the care your body deserves. Try them today. Whether you're new to Dr. Squatch or you use it every day, get 15% off your order by going to Dr. Squatch.com slash JRE15 or use the code JRE15 at checkout. This episode is brought to you by Crash Champions. There's nothing worse than being overwhelmed by an unexpected car accident and not knowing what to do next. But as bad as a situation like that might be, Crash Champions is here to answer the call, turning your bad day around with trusted collision repair. They'll save the day by getting your vehicle back on the road quickly, safely, and looking like the accident never happened. Next time, a wreck ruins your life, remember to trust Crash Champions. They will answer the call and make it right. Ask your auto insurance company about Crash Champions, visit CrashChampions.com to find a location near you. And then the Civil War ended just a couple years later, right?

That's not that long. Like 60 years later, they're doing MMA. MMA. You ever heard it? Uh-uh. It's so weird. Let's say it's weird watching old movies period. Yeah. They got like the 1920s and shit. It's like, it's so I watch King Kong with my kids. I had them watch the original King Kong. Wow. And they're like, we're gonna be scared. This was a few years back. Like when, um, One was six and one was four. Look, we're nervous. We're just gonna go, don't be scared. You know, it's not scary. Just trust me. You're gonna think it's funny. They were laughing. I thought it was so funny. It looks so bad. It looks so corny. Right. We're just cutled up on the couch watching King Kong. It looks so corny. Like the clay machine. It's just weird that back then that was a horror movie. Like people would go to the movie like that was terrifying. Yes, it was. I'm gonna go get a sandwich. My goodness. I'm gonna go get coffee for a penny.

I was running to me to say about it. No one. Those people are crazy.

I went to a Yelp review the other day because there's this restaurant that I really liked, it's near my house. And I said, I wonder how it gets reviewed on Yelp and it was like all five stars except one, one, one star. And it was like a crazy review where some woman was she was yelling, she was complaining that tips that if you tip on a credit card that they don't get it until the end of the week and then it gets taxed. Okay, is that how it always works? Or do you get it at night? They cash you out. Depends on the restaurant. Depends on the restaurant. But I felt like that was probably common that some restaurants will give you with your weekly check all your tips for that typical.

Oh, that seems... That seems like it doesn't encourage performance though, right?

Right, like a five-star. Exactly.

Yeah. So anyway, I looked at this lady's one star review, like one star out of five stars. And I always have a big smile on my face when I see a one star review. Because that means this bitch gonna have a lot of one star reviews if you go to her page. It was all one star reviews. This fucking mouth content, this monster. It was just going everywhere and complaining about everything for fucking nail salons, to movie theaters, like everything.

After Rose Amazon, I got a bunch of people that tweeted at me with these wacky conspiracies, like wacky mind control conspiracies and what would it seem to me to be not a professional, but if I had a guess, a wave of mentally ill people. We're contacting me. And I was reading this on like Jesus Christ. How many fucking people are out there that believe like the most nuttiest CIA-based mind control experiments and NSA, you know, tapping into everything in your home and listening to your conversations by listening to the vibrations off of your window pains? Like, here's what people don't know. Who's got time for that? Here's the thing. Do you really think there's enough people in the world to be paying attention to all the people in the world? Does that make any sense to you? It shouldn't. There's no way everybody's watching everybody. There's not enough people. See, like if you do something like, say, Tony Henskof runs for president. Oh, they're going to fucking watch you for sure. They're going to find out why is Tony Henskof front of a president who's backing him? Is it George salt roast? Who's looking out for Tony Henskof? You know who's trying to who's fourth? Yeah, they'll check you out. But the average person is like, remember that Mel Gibson movie conspiracy theory? Remember that? He played a mentally ill person. who fell in love with Julia Roberts. He was like a hot, mentally ill person. And he just believed everything was a conspiracy theory. I watched it the other day. Like out of nowhere, it was on TV and I still didn't watch this for a little bit. And I was like, wow, I fucking wacky this movie.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you know Mark Marin heard voices in his head for over a year? Oh my goodness. After partying with Kinesian. It's hard, it's important. Yeah. We're pushes.

I learned something from Argus because Argus runs like insane numbers of miles every day, like 12 miles, 15 miles a day.

It's real. I know now because of this month. This month, the sober October month, dude, I've worked out no less than at least two hours. That's a small workout, a small workout where that's all I could get in was two hours. The longest I did, I did six hours one day. Good Lord. Six hours of insane cardio. It's like both kill bills. I did seven, I did seven hours of cardio in the last two days. Between yesterday and the day before seven hours of hard cardio, different stuff, running the hills with the dog.

First of all, my main competition is Arishafir. And whether you realize they're not. Arishafir, you know, he doesn't exercise. Arie has a strong mind. He's a very strong mind. Arie ran 15 miles the other day. 15 miles. He rode five kilometers. And then after he wrote five kilometers, he did something else. He wrote his bike. He wrote a bike for a certain amount of miles.

The whole thing, his whole workout was, I think, four hours.

Dude he's he said you saw a fucking hard. He was going on the rolling machine. He goes hard dude. He stayed in the 80% on the rolling machine for an hour. I mean, he really did. I saw him. I was there out there with him. I filmed it. I put it up on Instagram.

It's not because when Bert and him went walking, he was in way better shape than Bert. See, Ari rides his bike in New York, and he walks a lot in New York, and even though he's not in great shape, like in terms of like a guy who runs and compares it into Bert, he's in fantastic shape. When they went hiking together, Bert had a stop, like a bunch of times like a bunch of times like a bunch of times like a bunch of stuff. And Ari was pissed off. He's like, why don't I have to stop because you're fat? Like he's sick, y'all. Yeah, so like he wanted to see what would happen if the two of them went out together and did the exact same hiking Who's because a bird was saying oh, it's because you're not in shape So your your heart is always at 80% no Ari in a week is in way better shaped than bird is and his whole life of working out and drinking vodka every night compared to bird but compared to bird But my point is he was my real competition. I was very, very much worried about him. So up until two days ago, everything seemed to be going good. I was working out really hard and I was put it was hard. It's hard to do three hours a day. It's three and a half hours a day. Two days in a row is three and a half hours a day. Um, but I started peeing and it started coming out dark. Oh, no.

Oh, bless you, goddess for your sweet tea. I was famished. Um, yeah, um, it didn't look good. Oh. And today, I had to go to some thing in my kid's school. I had some Halloween thing. And I had to go up three flights of stairs, free long flights of stairs. I got to top, first of all, I barely made it up stairs. I got to the top, I was out of breath, and my legs were shaking. Whoa, three flights of stairs. And I was like, okay, I might have fucked something up. Oh, man.

What does it mean? I think my body's breaking down. I think I've got like serious muscle breakdown to point like my muscles are so sore that I'm ignoring that they're sore. And even though they're really, really sore, I'm still doing like three hours of cardio. Like I limped up to the to the trail when I ran with my dog yesterday. that I ran two miles, and then after I ran two miles, I did an hour and a half on the elliptical machine, and then after I did an hour and a half on the elliptical machine, I did 45 minutes of kicking the bag, punching and kicking the bag.

My point is, Argus taught me something, by telling me about this high that you get from all this cardio, and I was like, I don't fucking nonsense. I knew that there was like an endorphin high, but I didn't think it was really specific. But there's a very specific high that you get. And it's like, if you could take a pill that puts you in the state of mind that I am when I work out this much, everybody would take it. And the world will be a better place. Because you don't give a fuck. You don't give a fuck about anything. I mean, not they don't care about people and friends, loved ones. But there's no anxiety. There's no all the chatter, all the negative chatter that you get in the brain that you have to push off and ignore. Let's shuts off gone, non-existent. And I wonder how much of that is there because your brain is almost trying to create problems and conflict because you're not getting enough exercise. Yeah, because your body is supposed to get a specific amount of exercise.

Stuff that doesn't make any sense at all. Right. Yeah. And if you were in a good state of mind, you'd be like, eh, who gives a fuck? Exactly. But instead, do you dwell on it? Yeah. So you're bringing, like, trying to come up with problems.

my dog marshals like that hardcore because marshals and shape because he runs miles with me all the times that dog's ready to go and so it's like we're running right we're running today Mike not not today do you know what the fuck am I doing myself right I'll just start chewing socks and yeah you know doing things that you're not supposed to do yeah he just you know it's just a ball of energy but At least he doesn't have like anxiety and negative chatter. The complex human mind when it doesn't have enough energy output. I always think of the brain. It's almost like a battery that has a lid on it and there's like energies like flowing out of the battery and spilling over the sides and causing a mess. Because you gotta expand or expand a certain amount of energy every day in order to keep it clean. Just keep everything going well. Yeah. Did I feel fucking great? Other than the fact that I can't walk good. But it's just, I went too hard. It's just too hard. But I wanted to get so far ahead. My goal was to get so far ahead that no one could catch up. I was like, if I could just, they could do these big days every now and then. I go, but it's hard to do a big day and then do another big day. And then do another big day. That's what's hard. And I'm like, that's where I'll get them. I'll get them in the like, like, when you wake up, like, not today. That's the day you gotta go. Yeah. I wanted to put some distance. between them. So what I did was I did one day where I did six hours. I did five hours in the morning, and then I actually five and a half. Then I did another hour at night. So it was basically six and a half hours. And I got a thousand points for the day. And they were like, what the, a thousand, 35 actually. Good God.

No, he doesn't work out now and will break.

I don't think that anything would do with it. I think it was cocaine. They did so much cocaine. They were up for days. Yeah. That's what it was.

But I mean, I think the big factor was the cocaine. Doing cocaine with Kinnison. I think he just popped a fuse. You imagine fucking up for days and days and Kinnison's like, where's the blow? Where's the blow?

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I don't want her first about that. The first time we might not have. Yeah, it's hard to remember.

Oh, yeah. One thing that she talked about the first time she did the podcast was that she lost her mind when all that was going on. She's like, oh, I went crazy. I lost my mind. That kind of pressure to go from being a housewife and Denver. Until like a couple years later, being one of the biggest stars in the world. Like that. Yeah.

or you do all those years and then you're an overnight success like Tiffany Hatton right Tiffany Hatton did a bunch of years and then out of nowhere she becomes a giant success yeah you know but she prepared by doing all those years for rosian bar was like instantaneous You know that the thing that bothered me most about all that stuff was how quickly everyone wanted to just cancel her get rid of her like stop her from working ever again. I don't want to hear her side of it. There's no room for explanation. There's no room for discussion. There's no room for Just get rid of her.

Well, it's people that are on the outside that are watching these people live these spectacular lives. And if something goes wrong, they're happy because then that person has to be a regular person again, or even worse. They have to be a husband, which people love. People love a husband. Yeah. I remember one guy was shitting on Gary Coleman because Gary Coleman was a security guard. I was having this conversation with him. He's like laughing. That Gary Coleman from different strokes. That was a show. It was a security guard. He's like, that fucking guy's a security guard now, man. And I was like, okay, but if you saw like a regular security guard, would you go, ha! That fucking guy's security guard. You wouldn't do that, right? You'd go, oh, there's a security guard. Hey, what's up, man? Yeah, I'm going to building three. Here's my ID. It'd be normal, right? But because he was famous. being at security cards a joke and he's a loser like there was it was joy and glee and this guy describing how Gary Coleman who was born like with a disease I mean he's a deformed he's just tiny person with a fucked up body his his whole body's a mass I mean he's he's physically a mass his health is fucked up and this guy was Taking joy out of the fact that he was a security guard now. I was like, wow, this is a weird tendency that people have to watch people that they think had it better than them fall.

From the cosmic show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently Tyler Perry gave that guy a job. Oh, shout out to Tyler Perry. Thank you. Yeah.

Yeah, no. He said, uh, love the fact that guys hustling. He's out there working. There's no shame in working. Right. The fact that people are so obsessed with that, that there is a shame in it. There's a shame in just having a job and working. It's very strange. It's very strange how people are attached to that. You know, that they, they, they immediately think that this is something to mock and make fun of. You know, I mean, it was almost universal. So many people were doing stories on that guy, bagging groceries.

That's it. We got it. We got it. Yeah. Did you ever hear it? Uh-huh. Play it. Megan Kelley shit. What do you guys have like a lot of fun?

No, the apology was hilarious. This woman said that some woman from Australia said that it seems like a hostage video. The only thing that's missing is her holding up a newspaper with a date on it.

And then somebody else said, well, if you there's one of the one of things about it. That's so strange. It's how insincere it seems. Like forced. Like, oh, it's from a forester.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

No, I haven't seen that. But forget the apology. Let's play the actual video.

Who was the first comment?

But it's weird when you watch it now. Like, You know, this is her demise. Like, you're watching the stumble when she trips off the rock and falls off the cliff. This is the stumble. Like, I don't get it. How is that racist to want to be Diana Ross, then play it again?

That was a wrap. My favorite one of hers that she ever said. My favorite one of hers that she ever said was they were doing this thing on Fox News about Santa Claus and someone had something about Santa Claus being black. They did something about Santa Claus being black and she just went, well Santa Claus is definitely white. And she was like, I think she said if it kids, like kids Santa Claus is definitely right. Or kids Santa Claus is real and he's definitely white. I forget what the exact terminology was. But she basically said Santa Claus is definitely white. Like Santa Claus is in fucking real. Okay. That's like saying Spider-Man is definitely white.

Well, it was then. They don't want her now. Yeah. She wanted to go back. No, no, we're good. Yeah, they wouldn't even take her back. The thing is you can't go from being an ice princess in the conservative, right wing channel to being like Oprah, which she's trying to be like Oprah.

He was like a piece of shit. Those people were just gonna come over. Yeah, that's exactly what they thought. They thought she has a giant fan base. But she had a fan base for sure. Some came over. But she a lot of her fan weight of base was because she was the beautiful conservative woman who was very tough, very articulate, very smart, you know, and they liked that. She was an ice princess. And she would shut people down, they're incorrect. And she wouldn't let people talk over her. She was powerful, kind of frightening in a hot way.

Boo!

You know what they're like? They're like that closet and X Machina when the dude opens up and sees all these robots with different skin and faces.

How dare you see you could get fired for that Imagine if you were on a show and you said that that would be the end like that This is a beautiful thing about podcasts Yeah, no because of fuck that you said that it has zero consequences But like let's let's pretend that you were on the tonight show and you were a guest and you're like I like being in the end of that porta party people are like oh

Imagine if you imagine dumped you for that enough right one audience member in Connecticut and that pulled the crowd 99% thought you're funny, but that's not good enough. Yeah, you need a hundred percent

You could run into a person like that anywhere. Yeah. I mean, I've run into people like that at the store. They sit in the front row with their arms crossed. You're gonna run into people like that everywhere. Yeah. But there's something about Connecticut where it's, there's no real cities. You got Hartford, which is a, of land of despair. And you got New Haven, which is worse. And it's just a highway between Boston and New York. So it is. Boston's great New York's great Connecticut's like what the fuck are you doing here what's going on here it's become such a running joke the Lex Friedman the scientist from MIT who's on here the other day to talk about artificial intelligence he brought it up as a joke what did he say do you remember he said

Dude, I did so many gigs in Connecticut, so many, so many, because I lived in Boston and it was like, you know, hour and a half drive to our drive. You're in Connecticut. We did a lot of gigs there. Greg Fitzsimmons and I, we did a shit ton of gigs in Connecticut. We'd always leave going with the fuck.

Oh my good friend Tommy Juniors and Connecticut. There's good people in Connecticut.

But it's disproportionately bad. That's the problem. It's not that everyone in Connecticut is full of despair. No. There's a lot of people that live in like a heart-ford and not a heart-ford, but what's that area outside of New York City where all the rich people live? Greenwich. That's where it makes make man lives. Super rich. Like estates. Yeah. Like David Letterman has a spot out there. I mean like you got to drive like a mile to get to the property down their driveway. The driver's like a mile of like manicured lawns. They have those great gatspy type residences there. Hell yeah. A lot of pills. A lot of people piled up. Yeah, look at these joints is the average. Wow.

Damn. Those are the apartment building doing, but it's building house. Let me see a house. Let me see a house. See, that's a house. That's a Connecticut house. Dude, there's insane amounts of finance money. Like, that's great. Gatsby type shit. Did you ever read the great Gatsby?

Yeah. And it was weird too because it's like they took artistic license with like the way the automobiles worked and moved and there was like a lot of flair to it that made it exciting.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's that area that area of Connecticut is just unbelievably wealthy. That area of Connecticut and there's another area that's similar to that in Long Island. Like that's the Hamptons. The Hamptons in Long Island is all just insane wealth. Just like Matt Lauer has a house out there. It's like $16 million. Well, that today's show money. Hala. He's doing it. What is he going to do? We think they're going to make it come back.

What was he selling?

Is this showing television or is it on the internet?

And it was just on it.

Who's that girl in the upper right-hand corner? What is that? What is that?

What? What in the hell am I watching? One drag queen. What? Go full screen, please. Oh, my Jesus Christ. Look at her eyes. It's insane. Oh, shit. What's going on there with the eyes? I'm confused. Lots of tend to make up. But wait a minute. We're her actual eyes. Wow.

Yeah, but she also drew white underneath the eyes.

And then black on me. Oh my god, that's insanity. Those are the craziest eyes I've ever seen in my life. I brows going way up. Yeah, well, the black Triangles in the corners of the eyes, too. That is the nuttyest makeup. And look at the cheekbones, like how sculpted it is. Where it's like has an abrupt line before the lower jaw.

He can't even tell. He's filled blind.

I forgot. He's born in 1900's man.

What? The pokey, the jail. Larry King went to jail. Really? Yeah, there she is. Whoa. Whoa. Look at that. I make up, man.

How is that even real? But she's got a signature look though. I'll tell you that. That's her look.

That triangle thing. I'm scared to have her in here. What does she look like without makeup? What's that right there? What does she look like? What do you think she looks like?

Probably better looking in you.

It's did not cat eyes. That was a cat. I'd shoot it right in the fucking head. That's an evil cat. Um, what did Larry can go to jail for? Went to jail for something. It's a crazy, uh, like it looked like he's all coked up in his mugshot photo. It looks like a wild man. Grandlarsity. Oh, damn.

Come on. Tell me it doesn't look cooked out of his mind. Look at my hand. Fucking Miami. He's horse. He's horse. They had a comment. Look at his sideburns. He looks fucking amazing. 1971. Wow. Yeah. Ball. I was four years old. Larry King's getting arrested. Damn. Find out what he got arrested for. What did he do?

Oh, that's it. Uh-huh. He owed a finance here. He was doing some work for with a judge throughout the varsity charge, because the statute of limitations run out. King played no contest to one count of passing bad checks. Damn, son of that bad. Yeah.

You can get those from me on these. You probably have shirts like that.

Wow. Damn. Yeah, they have lounge pants now and brawlets.

Me and these dot com for slash rogan. I love it. Everybody was doing Coke back then. I got assumed Larry King was on Coke. You've seen Coke King Cowboys, right? Yeah. Fucking amazing. Amazing. Amazing, Dr. One and Two. Amazing. When you just realize what, because you could be, especially if you're living in Ohio, like you were, or out here in Los Angeles, you might not know the history of cocaine and Miami. You might not know how fucking insane it was, until you watched that documentary and you just go, what? Yeah.

Narcos is good, but it's a lot of it is about another country. Yeah. Like cooking cowboys is almost all about America. Yeah. There's one one part of cooking cowboys that I'll never forget where they said that the entire graduating class of the police academy was either murdered or went to jail. They were all corrupt. Everybody was doing coke. There's more banks per capita in Miami, at least at the time than anywhere else in the country. And it was all money laundering. It's all it was. Fucking hell. My friend Steve Graham was going to school in Miami back then. He was doing his residency in Miami. He's an ophthalmologist. And he was there during the cocaine violence years. So he was doing his residency. You do emergency room work. So he was there and people bullet holes and fucking brains exploded. He said it was crazy. The amount of violence that you would say. Just every night, people with bullet holes and gunshot wounds and knife wounds and fucking attack with barbed wire and chaos. And a lot of people with things up their ass. Really? Oh, yeah. All kinds of things. Light bulbs. You know those twisty light bulbs? Yeah. You look like a pine cone? Yeah. Up the ass. Can't get it out.

Why lightballs? Because warm. I'll lube it up, shove it in there, start beating off. Can't get it out. Oh no. Gotta get to the doctor. How do you do it? Drive slow. I'll put my ass out the window. I don't know, but he told me that that was one of the things they pulled out of a guy's ass. A light bulb. One of them twisty light bulbs. That's the thing, too. Like, GI Joe dolls. She liked that.

That would definitely actually really fun. A really fun thing in a movie. Yeah, you know, like, you look cartoon. I got a great idea.

Oh my god. Yeah, thank god we're not doctors, huh?

You know, how morose you would get every day you're dealing with people dying. They just get too comfortable with it.

You know what I mean, but in real life, they have to just stitch him up and, you know, well, it also mean that guy probably has a record in terms of like his success ratio. He doesn't want to fuck it up for some asshole. Right.

EMT workers too. Yeah. Same kind of deal. A buddy might told me never date a female EMT worker. I go, why? And he goes, they're crazy. He goes, they've seen so much violence. They just fuck everyone. I go, what? And he goes, yeah, this is a bunch of female EMT workers that they work with. They're just bang everybody. Obviously, it's not. every EMT female worker. He's just my asshole friend. Yeah. Tell me this. Based on his very limited polling, my thought on it is, to you imagine how fleeting you would feel that life is, if every day you're seeing people die, every day you're dealing with car accidents, you're showing up, people's brains are splattered all over the highway. Their legs are ripped off. They've been run over by trucks every day, all day long. This is what he said. He goes, it goes, first of all, no one's supposed to see that much death. He goes, if you see that much death, it rewires away your brain works. He goes, you're supposed to see that very rarely, very rarely in life. If you see it every day, something goes wrong. And he goes, it's been my experience that some of these women with that goes wrong. They just, they're just wild. They just fuck everybody. I go how, but why do you think they're doing that? He's like, they're just tracking themselves. Trying to distract themselves from the violence. Again, this is one asshole friend.

I'm sure you are, man. I'm not talking about you.

I watched a porn of the other day, two female cops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Some fugly-looking female guard. Dude was throwing dick away.

Yeah. Yeah. And then she turned herself in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She couldn't handle anymore when the fucking ramp, ramp, ramp, ramp, ramp. The alarms are going off and the man hunt was underway. Like, how did he get out? She's like, oh, fuck them. Wow. Wow.

Look at her. Okay, open. Joyce Mitchell denied parole after helping killer inmates escape New York prison. Just going to jail herself.

There was a guy used to spar with who was a security guard at jail and that was fucking with his head, too. He was just telling me about what the experience was like. Like every day, he was just always dealing with these fucking people that They're never getting out of there. Like he was in a maximum security penitentiary. It's like they're never getting out of there. Every day, every day you're just dealing with horrible people in terrible circumstances and they know that you get to leave. They know you get to leave. But you're living with them most of the day. You go, yeah, I'm not a prisoner. He goes, but my environment is surrounded by these people. He's like, that affects you. So I can never thought about it that way. I just thought the guards have it okay. It's just a job where the inmates, you know, well as poor bastards are stuck in there. Well, you're in there with them for eight hours a day. Most of the time you're not controlling them. Most of the time you just co-existing.

Why do Belgium at a violent end after a lifetime of brutality?

Hold on, make that larger so I could read that. What is it in a three foot grave near a river and not far from Boston? Pat McGongle's body laid decaying, undisturbed until his remains were found 20 years later. Part of his pelvic bone fractured skull and the decomposed brain matter. Okay, this is. All the different things he's done. Yeah. Now, he was a horrible fucking killer.

You know, I used to train a guy that was one of his fucking mob henchmen. Guys had to me once. He goes, if you're going to kill somebody, how would you kill him? I was with my bare hands. He goes, yeah, I go. I probably hit him in the neck. It's a gear. I was like, okay.

I was, um, I was 19 at the time. I was teaching Taigwondo. Wow. I was teaching this guy who, um, he was friends with a friend of mine who absolutely worked for Wadi Bulger who wound up going to jail. And they told me that this guy used to whack people. I was like, Oh, Jesus Christ. And I was teaching him to talk one down. He was very serious. He was very intense. And I was very aware that there was something different about him. I was very aware like he wasn't just a guy that was learning for exercise or self defense, want to take a little class, learn a little martial arts. He was going to use it. Like he was a guy that was in case he needed to use it. You know what I'm saying? Like there's a mindset of someone who just wants to get better at a martial art and there's a mindset of someone who's thinking about, okay, it's gonna come down. I'm gonna fuck give him right there. Okay, and I'm gonna get him right there. That guy was like when he would practice, there was a certain amount of focus and intensity that he had that was palpable.

He was unrecognizable. Let's go, dude. Mr. Bulger's eyes appeared to have been dislodged from his head. Although it was unclear whether his attackers gouged them out or they were knocked out because he was beaten so severely in the attack. This information was relayed by a senior law enforcement official who oversees organized crime cases.

Oh, that's what they beat them with?

At least in part with a padlock that was stuffed inside of a sock. At least two inmates were quickly sent to solitary confinement after Mr. Bulger was found. According to three employees of the federal bureau of prisons. Wow.

Wow. Couldn't have been doing nice or guy. White heat bulger. Do you know he won the lottery twice? Really?

Not really. Yeah. That's a scam. I mean, that was how he would show his income. So someone else would win the lottery and they would come to him and he would like give them the money and they would give them the lottery ticket and he'd be like, look, I won the lottery. That's how I'm rich. Yeah. Yeah, it's dark. They probably would find the person who won the lottery. You know, they chased Dana White out of town. Do you know that? No. Yeah. Yeah. They wanted money. They wanted payment from Dana White. And Dana White got beaten up by them so severely that he had like tonight as in his ears. Fuck. Yeah. He had a fucking head of jet out of town. He moved to Vegas. Wow. Yeah.

No. Wasn't the UFC? It was no UFC back then. He was like a boxing trainer. Oh. I forget what he was doing, whether he's running a gym. Yeah. he had to leave town because the mom, that's why he left Boston. Yeah, it was real, man. I mean, this was all when I was a kid. I mean, I got seriously into Taekwondo in 1982. That's when it became like, like, 81, 82. That's when it really became like my whole life. And that's right around the time where all that shit was going on. And then when in 1988, I became friends with a comedian who was his brother went to jail for being a part of Whitey Bolder's mob.

Yeah, it was like everybody knew somebody who was in some way connected to the mob in some way, you know. I just one dude when he or crazy story. It's one guy. He's dead now. I could talk about him. The scene was richy and he went to jail while I knew him. He was arrested for a murder that I don't think they ever got him on. But this person who was killed wasn't just killed. They broke every bone in his body with a hammer and kept injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake. So he would black out from the pain and they would inject him with cocaine to wake him back up again. And then they would break another bone. They would break in all his bones with a hammer. They cut his hands off, cut his head off, they cut everything off. And then when they found, you know, is broken heap of a body. He was somehow connected to this guy that I knew who sold Coke. And this guy had gone to jail. And I knew him before he went to jail. He was another guy from Taekwondo. I knew him before he went to jail. He was one person. He was a young guy. I was, I think, when he went to jail, I was 16. And I think he was 20. And then when he got out of jail, It was, I was 20 and he was 24. And he had scars all over his body where he tried to like sand off his tattoos. He had tattoos all over his arms. And I don't know what the tattoos were, whether they were racist or whether he just didn't want them anymore. But he had like either acid burns or scars. Like how are the fuck you try to get the tattoos off all over his arms? Like his arms are covered in scars. He wasn't good. He wasn't like a talented martial artist, but he was insanely tough, like insanely aggressive and insanely tough. And when you sparred him, you were fighting for your life, for your life. He would come at me and try to fucking kill me. I mean fucking kill you throwing looping punches with every fucking ounce of his being and I'm moving around and I'm like, oh, we're fighting to the death here. We're fighting. This is not this is not sparring. We only spar to couple of times before this, but one time he had me cornered he he he he trapped me in a corner and hit me with a fucking bomb on the top of my head just boom like it's hard as he could probably with a strong guy it was quite a bit bigger than me to Irish guy I think he was Italian And I kicked him in the head so hard. It broke his cheek. Like his cheek shifted over. His face, I wheel kicked him. So I hit him with my heel and his face and he dropped down. He collapsed. Went down to his, like, went down, like, face first. Got up on his all fours. Got back up again, wanted to keep going. I said I go richy I go you got to look in the mirror I go come look in the mirror and he's like oh fuck I go yeah, you can't spar anymore dude. He wanted to kill me. He wanted to keep going. He wanted to keep going after I basically kicked his face in half Jesus I hit him so hard. It wasn't a sparring session. It was an I'm trying to kill you. You're trying to kill me session And I remember setting them up, setting them up, setting them up, boom! And I hid him with that thing and he faced planted. Most people would have just went out. But he was so angry and so mean. He was trying to get up. It's fucking scary. But that was, I was the last time I sparred with him. I'm like, we're not sparing anymore, dude. I'm not fighting to the death with some guy who I'm kind of friendly with. I was friendly with him other than that. Like, what was you would never guess? I remember one time we went out. It was me and him and these two girls and they were like, real weird, right? And, you know, this one girl was like, you know, like, Richie, when are we gonna get to get that stuff? I go, what stuff are you gonna get? And he's like, and she's like, he's gonna get us some cargo. You don't want any coke. She goes, fuck you! I was trying to tell her, she doesn't want coke.

That's why I'm hanging out with this guy, stupid. That's so funny. You know, it was one of the rare times I hung out with them outside of the gym. He told me a story about how he had a fight off these guys with a broomstick in jail and how he's beaten these guys to death with a broomstick. This is a horrible story about him being forced to mop up something in the bathroom and these guys cornered them and he's just fucking attacking them with this broomstick and about how he got extra time for that. I forget what he went to jail for. I assume it's probably drug related. I don't remember what it was, but I remember just being so nervous about being connected to people like that, like knowing people like that from the gym. Because there was people like that, there were always, there always wanted to learn how to fight. Because you know, you know, you're teaching martial arts, you training, there's always those, those guys would always come in. And whenever it was kind of spar, Scary times. There was no pulling back. There was no, like, if you were sparring with some friends, like, I was sparring with, like, my friend Lira Rodriguez, a good friend of mine. It was so fast as lightning. This Puerto Rican guy was bad motherfucker. But he would not hurt me. We would sparring. We would go hard, but he would hold back from hurting you. You know, like, you could, you could trust certain people. Well, you were sparring. You knew that it was just sparring. There was other people. It was to the death. Terrible crazy. No, he that we did it over a fucking thin office carpet on top of concrete It was just office carpet on top of concrete. So when people would fall I had with bounce off the concrete. Oh fuck Yeah, it was horrible. Good Lord. That's the 80s bro. She was different.

So terrible back then man

Oh, they got them. Yeah. They got a lot of them. Yeah. I remember people getting them when they were just fucked up for months and months at a time. You get it. I mean, you get that kind of a concussion when you bounce your head off the ground. And then, you know, just the impact of something like that. It's so devastating, man. It's just so bad for you. There's a great video, not great, but kind of crazy. If you go to Saxon, Moetai on Instagram, there's a video of these two guys fighting in a parking lot. and one guy is obviously a trained fighter and he's fighting these gang bangers and he leg kicks one of them and then punches him in the face and the other guy's going oh you think you're going to kick home boy you think you're going to kick home boy and he goes come on kick me motherfucker and he takes a puff of a cigarette he takes his shirt off like he's going to fight he has no idea how to fight and he's the side he's going to fight this guy who knows how to fight and this guy leg kicks him drops him to the ground he gets up the guy shoots a double lifts his legs up in the air and drops him on his head and he just goes out. Yeah. It's so it's watching something about watching someone's head bounce off concrete that is so fucking disturbing.

Sacks on Moitai. You didn't see it? Maybe somebody pulled it. Let me see it. I once had a compassion in there. You see the page. Let me scroll down a little bit. Hold on. We'll go to the top again. Yep. That's it. Scroll down a little bit. Yeah. Somebody must have pulled it.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it wasn't sex on.

How quick after that did you go back to wrestling?

Oh, this is it. This is the video sent to me on that. Oh, here it is. It's on world's top. Watch this. He gets him with the leg kick. The guy gets up and watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Boom, strong leg. Perfectly timed. Watch this. Watch this. out. Go from the beginning though, in the beginning you see it's long. Yeah, but the beginning you see how the fight starts. So this guy, um, the guy's like, come on, motherfucker, you want someone to get a shirt off. And the guy's like trying, he's by himself. And he's like, oh, we do one on one, one on one, one on one.

Did he? Yeah. Yeah, this guy, this guy, this is the guy, Legs kicks. And after he Leg kicks this dude, the other guy says, come on.

Is he gonna get taken down from YouTube? Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Turn it down. Yeah. So the guy's like, come on, Matt. So like, he's just one dude by himself with a bunch of other dudes. But he steps in. This guy knows how to fight. Look at this. Throwing a jab and then watch this. Lake kick.

No, no, no. Yeah, but that's it right there. Leg kick. Boom, then he cracked some. And so then the guys like realizing he's in trouble and so you start to back in the way and the guys coming forward is like, come on, bitch. And so then the other guy afterwards goes, oh, you think you got a leg kick going to leg kick? So he comes back, he's like tired of this dude walking away from him. And he's like, I fuck this dude up with one punch. And he wants a backup. And so this guy goes, you want a leg kick? You want a leg kick? Here, right here.

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A lot gone with your head. That's why you stay always getting mad at those movies where people get pissed-a-wipped. And nothing would happen to it. Wake up, wake up, wake up. Like, somebody who liked you would piss-a-whip you because they needed to shut your mouth.

They'd just be fighting. No problems. No coordination issues. Meanwhile your equilibrium would be so fucked. Your legs wouldn't work right now. They'd never been knocked out like other than that.

When you find out how vulnerable you are, like the human brain, the way it's positioned in the head, and all that's to do is get hit and spread yanked around.

Oh, God. Yeah. There's a great video of this girl headbutt in this guy unconscious outside of a bar. You probably won't be able to find it. But some some guys fucking weather and she's not big. She's pretty small and she grabs this guy by the collar and just bang and they do just crumples and drops to the ground to fucking awesome. It's a real move, man. This part right here. Oh, hell yeah. This is where people break their hands. Yeah, they break their hands on that the top of the forehead all the time. Yeah, it's super hard spot. And if you smash someone on the jaw with that or on the, that's one move that it chick actually can pull off if she really knows how to do it. Grab someone's shirt and bang.

I've never had butted anybody. Really?

That was awesome. Right. We all went out to there.

A bunch of Ohioans hanging out with Kelly Padler.

Yeah, we ate a lot of good food. That was fun. That was after the shot and steam. Right? Wow. Shot and steam? That was a fun shot. Oh yeah. Only show I've ever worn a football jersey. That was awesome. That was so cool. I fucking love Ohio. I love Columbus. Columbus is the anti-cananicot.

Oh, that's young Jamie's photograph. Yeah. Young Jamie, photographer extraordinaire.

So what's going on with young Tony Hinchcliffe's career? What's the latest? I know you've been killing it with Kill Tony.

But it's like how you're always adding new elements and always mixing it up. But it is one of the best live podcasts format ever because it's so great. It's so chaotic and you're guaranteed to either get good comedy or terrible comedy, which equals great comedy. Yeah.

It's always a new element. It's always something new. And the fact that the background guy is like Jeremiah and all those guys like change outfits all the time and they're constantly doing new things. It's just a ridiculous show. And that's the king. Dama Rara is the fucking king. Yep. He is so good at that shit. Oh my god. Everybody smile on but red band. Look at him. He's all sad. So serious. He stole his dog.

What's the hand of Gatsby path? Oh Yeah, how do people doing anti comedy? Hmm catch up Tony. Yeah, I guess I will fucking cisgendered white male piece of shit on the bad guy.

Are you planning on being naughty or are you just naughty all the time?

I think this is a good time for comedy. Like a lot of people are complaining about comedy right now. They think it's somehow another. This is a bad time for comedy. But are you sure if you're said it best? You said you know what's good about comedy right now? Comedy's dangerous. Yeah. There's real consequences to saying fucked up things.

It's also, there's fun in explaining yourself. There's fun in navigating the waters, right? Like this one of the things that I made sure that I did, I thought very, I thought out very thoroughly when I did strange times that my last special. I wanted to make sure I really thought out how I can pull these bits off and how I can make them Like, Doug Stanhope said it best. He said, he looks at his material like a defense attorney. Like, as if he's defending his material. That's a great way to look at it. I look at my material like I'm a hater. If I was a hater, how would I poke fun at that? If I was someone who's looking to be offended, how would I? get that out of the way like there's some bits that I did in the last one in triggered that I changed a lot of what they were from the beginning to when I put them on film because of the way audience members were reacting I was like well clearly I'm having a problem with this where they're not I'm not even getting to the switch I'm not getting to the misdirect because they're upset before I get to the misdirect I'm not It's, it'll be fine if they let me get to the end, but sometimes they would heckle or they would get upset like one lady at the Connie store. I had explained to her twice. I go, listen, I'm saying it like this because I'm gonna shit on myself afterwards. This is what I'm saying and this is what it was a bit about. Remember that bit I used to do about We make you do everything men can do. That's not true because men can't do everything. Some men can do. That's why we have the Olympics. Like the idea that everybody could do everything that's ridiculous. Because it was about the woman who guarded the White House. I was like, I can't guard the White House. You know how I know because I met you Keel on Neil and his dick is where my face is and I had explained to her like this is see this is where I was gonna go with it if the White House is experiencing a shack attack on the last guy to save the earth. Okay. He's just too fucking big you know and I I would explain I was trying to get to this but I was this lady was getting upset at me before I was so I had a think I was like okay If there's a drunk dummy, how do I keep the drunk dummy from popping off before I get to the misdirect? Like, so I had a restructure thing. So I had to figure out a way to make it. So it's clear. And like, you just have to navigate the waters more carefully. Yeah. But you could still get just as much juice out of it. Just as much comedy and just as much shit that's forbidden. Just as many taboo topics. Just you have to be really clear. Yeah. You have to be really, you have to have good writing.

You don't develop material in a big club, right? And well, it's like a 10,000-seat room. You don't develop material at like air-candest center, you know, the Scotia Bank Arena that we went to. You don't develop any material there.

Yeah, that place you develop material there Comedy works Denver develop material there develop material and clubs Yeah, you have to have both I firmly believe it those guys who just do big places and they only play to their audiences They're fucking themselves totally. It's like an athlete that doesn't strength train Or it's like, you know, someone who doesn't, they don't, they work out, but they don't watch their diet. So you got man, you got a, if you want the best results, you got to do the whole thing.

If it's their fans and their dumb comedy fans, I don't think they're going to laugh at things that aren't funny, but I think they're going to laugh harder at things that aren't as good. I think they're going to want, like I want to see a comic, not going to name me names me and Joey Diaz went to Sam because we were playing in the place the next night. Yeah. And it was It was one of those situations where someone was doing their material for their audience and you could tell they hadn't been working on the clubs. You could just see it. And the people wanted to laugh. They wanted to laugh. There were fans and they were with it. That's the difference between that and say a set of the store. When it's 11 p.m. on a Tuesday night, when they've already seen you and Joey Diaz and Ari and all these other killers, like you got to be funny, actually funny. It doesn't matter if you're you know, some, fill in the name, whatever fucking super start. You have to actually be funny. They give you a minute or two to get settled in on stays that clap and they're excited to see you, come with the fucking jokes.

It's also because they're right on top of you and the OR. They're right there. I mean, you could just high five of them.

Oh yeah, the weirdest place is the belly room. That's the weirdest room.

So you did two shows in San Francisco and then you drove back that night? Hell yeah. What time did you get home?

Did you do a set Saturday night anywhere?

So this is the second row. So you're ahead in the front here, dry up. Yeah. Well, Watkins to his picks.

You know, I just love like grass roots created shows like that where it just started out as nothing and then became what it is now. I just love shit like that. I love when people have an idea and they stick with it. And when you get to start doing the golden pony hour again, speaking of which,

Why not? You're really good with live audiences like that off the cuff. Why not have a show like that and do it in the belly room? Do it on an off night in the belly room. Yeah. You do one Monday night. You were doing Monday night. Yeah. Find another like off time 10 p.m. Especially if you do it late night. Like some weird late night show. Yeah, I think you're right, actually.

It's your forte. Yeah. I mean, you're great at that kind of stuff. Yeah. And to do it in a small intimate room like the belly room and to build it back up, you can get a logo and a big sign behind you, the golden pony hour. Yeah. Maybe a gold suit. Maybe you do every show with a gold suit on.

You could do something like that. Like, have a cool backdrop, you know, like some sort of a simple portable backdrop. Look at that. Oh, Elvis hell. Oh, come on. $40. That's for the cutout. Oh, that's a star stand up. Like, the suits only $40. What's it made of? I see if you can find one of them suits. Gold deck. What is that word, Lame? What does that word mean? L-A-M-E. I've seen that word before and it's one of those words I never bothered to look up.

Oh, what does it mean? Lemaisuit, just type in suit.

Oh, it's a type of fabric there, it is a type of... Lame is a type of fabric woven or knit with thin ribbons of metallic fiber. Oh, yeah. That's your shit. A fucking gold lame suit dude. That's what I'm gonna get. Hold on, type in, gold lame suit. Hmm. Here we go, baby. Oh, 12-0 like Jacket. Let me see. No, we need to get some custom made shit. That's what we need to do. If I hired someone to build you a suit. Yes. Would you, yeah? I'd wear the shit out of it. All right. You kidding me? There's someone out that shares. That's ridiculous. That one's a little ridiculous. Isn't it? I don't know. Any old iron sequins suit. I mean, that's sequin. There's like silver in there. That shit's gonna get in your fucking clothes stuff. It'll get in the wash machine. Looks like a tiny suit. I think you need to get someone to make you one of them.

It's a cosplay. Oh, this poor cosplay people. Oh, geez. Yeah. We need to get someone to make you one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got to fit you. We need to get David August. That's the company that makes, uh, they make condom of Gregor suits. They make my suits for the UFC. Really? Yeah. I can't wear regular suits. And not, I'm not built like a normal person. So look at that. She's wearing one. Hot bitch.

Damn. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to do that. I'm going to hire, uh, David August to make you a gold Lemais suit that fits you perfectly. Yes, and this will be the launch and you you've heard about it here folks launch of the golden pony hour lives from the comedy store Wednesday nights live from the comedy store in the belly room midnight look not on a pile so he's been farting taking pills. It's probably pills in that pocket. They'll kill you right now Help him, John. Billy Joel and Alton John staying all together again. All right. Yeah, so we'll do it and do it. I got to finish my fucking act so we can get on the road again. Yeah, I'm excited. What is it now? It's October 31st tomorrow's the first. I'm gonna start doing mushrooms immediately. And I'm looking, I have 35 minutes now. 35 minutes. I've timed it out. 35 new minutes. I can actually do 35 minutes set. I do a 35 minute set. I do a 35 minute set. I'm looking at January. January or start booking dates.

Booking for January. Yeah. So November, stay in LA December, stay in LA January. Maybe we do like the comedy works in Denver in the fucking dead of winter.

Oh, shit. Yeah. You'll love it out there. Yeah. They're, they're very polite. Do you remember the first time that we did Stockholm and you thought that you weren't doing well because they're very polite in between sets? And I had to say no, no, no. They listened. They were laughing. You're like, I felt like a bomb.

They're fucking with me. Two things take any consideration. One is their second language. So it's basically it's a novelty. They're going out to see comedy, which is a novelty. I'm sure they're Swedish comedians, but I'm sure the timing and the language is just very different going from, you know, Swedish style comedy to American style comedy. But they're just really polite. So they would laugh and then they would stop and they would listen. And you're like, it's just like dead in between the bits. I'm like, I'm telling you, man, you did great. But then you saw it when they were doing it from my set. Yeah. And you're like, oh, that's how they really are. Go, yeah. I go, but they had a great time. But they laugh, but they don't, there's not like all this chatter in between the jokes. Right. They wait and then they laugh and again, they laugh and again. But then your second set, we did two shows that night. You came out and you were comfortable.

Well, they are that way in England as well. In England, they really appreciate the craft. They really appreciate stand-up comedy. And they really really appreciate it as a show. They're extremely polite when they watch shows. I really enjoy performing there. I like it a lot. I haven't been there in a while, and I know I should go back. And I will. I promise. But the last time I was there, I was like, man, they're just, they're intelligent, they're polite. Like, the way they watch a show, like, they go to see a show, you know? So, that place is great, Manchester is great, London's great, Newcastle, I don't know, I'll play this in England at a good time. You know what else is, we're fucking great, but in a different way, wild, Dublin. You gotta do Dublin. Mmm, Dublin's chaos.

You gotta get drunk.

I'm sure. I don't know if there's been a UFC in Dublin while he was huge though. I don't know. That's a good question because they were going to do like a soccer stadium over there. One last time Connor fought in Dublin.

Yeah, it was a cage wars.

Oh, a different brand-out. Second fight. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I think is yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, now, though, Jesus Christ. I can't even walk in Dublin. I can't go anywhere.

That's right. She, yes. Yeah, she reaching your passing and grabbed your Maluk stick. Yeah.

No, she didn't do any of those things for us.

That was that one bottom right there. Again and again and again and again and again.

Look at that when they're belt on. Yep. That is hilarious. Yeah, it's a tough fight, man. She's fighting Valentina Chico Valentina is a fucking murderer.

Yeah, she absolutely struggles to make 115 pounds. Absolutely undeniably. It's an agonizing weight cut for her. I think it'd be better for her. They have fought before, you know, they fought two or three times in Moitai and Valentina's won all the fights. Yeah. Valentina's a beast, man. Yeah. And she's bigger. Valentina's coming down from 135 to 125. But I like it. It's probably one of the more technical female MMA fights you're ever going to see in terms of like, you know, you want to be in a world champion, my tie fighter, Valentina being, you know, at that same level. It's just both super super technical and pumped. That's going to be fun. Yeah. I'm going to hang out Toronto. Hell yeah. Whoo. All right. Let's wrap this fucking thing up. So Rocktober. It's been a good time. It's over. Let me see the the standings. See if anybody made a wild push today to try to.

Let me open the phone. Oh great new bug Apple stuck in the location notifications stuck in it.

Look at that. Wonderful. Close it and try it again. Wonderful new bug. Yeah, but what? What's up with that bug? That's fucking terrible. Oh, it's doing it again. It hit a button. Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful new bug. That's crazy. New fucking piece of shit. You're not everybody.

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