Transcript for #1275 - Luis J. Gomez

Four, three, two, one. Pau Lewis Gomez, we are live. We're live connected through the interwebs and through a network of comedians, Louis Gomez. Louis J. Gomez. Louis J. Gomez. Why do you like the game?

That's a problem. Making people use the J. That's very pretentious for a guy like you.

I understand so Lewis J Gomez. Thank you. I feel like You know, if we talked about this ad nausea on the podcast, but I think it's one of the most unique times for like networks of comedians that we're all connected together in a way that we weren't really before. It was always like East Coast versus West Coast for some stupid fucking reason. There was always this debate where the best comics are from and the style of comedy, but that shit seems to be out the window.

Get ready for the zombies. Yes. Yeah. The zombies. You want to live in that house like that old dude and his daughter did. Yeah. You're going to live out there and have a fucking perimeter protected.

He's been at this be for 12 years now. That psychopath. Yeah, RIP to Stan Hope's dog, Stan Hope Bird's dog yesterday did a big thing on social media about it. Very touching, very touching, they put their dog down, said, I went through that last year with two dogs. They're both couldn't walk anymore. I mean, I held on as long as I can, but I had to carry my dog. in another house, I had a carium to eat, I had a carium outside, and he was 140 pounds, right? It was just, it was a house. Who's old? Who's old? Dude, dude, dude, dude. Dude, dude, dude, dude. Dude, dude, dude, dude.

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But there's one of the mix. So like 140, they're like a fucking running back.

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You'd have to be standing somewhere where they go. Right? Because like in LA, if you wanted to meet, you'd have to run a casting agency. That's why those guys started that show. That's what they did. How many people went into the business just so they meet girls? Just to get pussy. Like 30% of them?

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Yeah, I mean, people would criticize that, like, oh, that's so gross. This should be real artist. Let's... That is a crazy life. You do not understand. No one understands. I don't understand. There's no fucking, like, we had David Lee Roth in here a couple years ago. There's no fucking way. Any of us will ever understand what it was like to be David Lee Roth. That is not humanly possible. Yeah. It is not pot, and to be, to come out the other end, it's fucking cool, is that guy? Is like, how the hell did that happen?

Okay, if you're standing in orthodox stance and someone hits you with a left hook to the body, that's where your liver is. That's why guys drop right here. Yep, it's right under your ribs. Okay. So when you punch somebody in the liver, you're, you, a lot of guys mistakenly go below the ribs.

You'd want to go right with a floating rib. So the rib bounces into the, yeah, if you watch like, Shannon the cannon breaks shout out to the champ. Oh, look at David rough in that picture. Ooh, I got it. Come on man. Nobody lives like that. That guy was on top of the goddamn world. It was built like a Greek god. He could do the full splits. He could do fucking wheelkicks on stage you shit. Dude, we got a chest that unapologetic. The level of sex, this guy must have had. Oh my god. Off the chart.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, go to go to Shannon the Canon Briggs page. His Instagram page. There's something that very funny that Tucker Carlson said. I know people like, oh my god, don't even quote him. He says something very funny. He says I'm very funny about some of the news anchor that this is all the men that are gonna be left if radical feminist take over the world apologetic. Yeah, bispectacle. I forget what the way he phrased it was very funny. I was like, there's a lot of fucking people like that.

It's not like there's a great shit. You know, that's one of the reasons why I post that Tim Dylan video yesterday. Do you have that Shannon can one? There's one where he's he hits his dude like It's one of his more recent fight clips that he put up. The fight starts. It goes like 10 seconds. And he steps towards this dude and hits him with a left hook to the body and crumples him. And I just want to show he's like a master at the liver shot. The liver shot. He's one of the best heavy weights of all time when it comes to liver shots. He was so good at it. If you were to set a point, you're a liar. Watch this. Watch this. This is Shannon Cannon. Watch, watch this liver. Bang! That's it. See he goes to the body and then down to the gut. He'll pop you with the jab, pop you with the hook upstairs, watch this. Look at this. See this is they're just showing it. Boom wants the left hook. pop was his upstairs boom and then downstairs. That's one of them, but that's not the one where he stopped to do it. He just came jumping out of the gate. But there's another one. I think a little bit further back than that. He looks like he hits so hard. He hits so hard.

Do you think it helped you act at all? Like I wasn't gonna do a comedy at that.

I wasn't gonna do a comedy. Watch this guy. See that left to the body? See how he digs that? Watch that one more time. Watch how he sets it up. He jabs to the head and then when you cover upstairs. Ooh. Look at that. Boom! He hits you with the left hook to the face, but it's a quick left hook to set up the left hook to the body. By the way, he's 50. Yeah. I see his beard. It's a fucking animal. Get up my face. He only wants to fight them. But I think there's also a TRT issue. But nobody wants to fight him right now. Here's a hard time getting fights. Well, that's his chin, bro. Leave his channel on. Don't make fun of his facial hair. The guy just got fucked up by the cannon. Let's go champ. If you go to his Instagram page, it's all, let's go champ. Let's go champ. It's very inspiring, man. Yeah. Like if I want to feel good, I go to Shannon the cannon's Instagram page. Is that where you go? Yeah, he makes me feel good. It's all positive. It's like, let's go champ. It is like, you got to drink more water champ. You got to eat healthy champ. Here it is. It's the champ. It's the champ. Oh, with the boys.

He's always like, you're super friendly.

He got to be there with him live. Yeah. Oh, he's yeah. He's all personality. Yeah. He's a, he's a, like a battery of like Santa Claus. Let's get some serious white in that beard. Oh, yeah. I think he's still trying to fight. He had some sort of a TRT issue, you know, testosterone placement there.

Especially older guys. Yeah, V Tour Belfort's now going to one FC and looks good again. Looking sexy.

Yeah, he got fucked up. Yeah, that dude he fought. Timothy. That's stukin, that's stukin. I think this is last name. There guys are beast. That one FC show was legit. Have you watched it?

Oh my god.

That's terrible. That's a terrible injury. Yeah. That looks like it split his eyelid. It did.

Jesus Christ. It split his fucking eyelid dude. Oh my god.

Well, touch your face. I mean, you had a little bit of an MMA fight. You know what it's like? Not really. You can't get you did. Who's a fight? It's a fight against another comedian. You beat him comedian up. That's very impressive.

You did take that back.

Yeah, you know people forget how to do shit man if you know all bullshit aside, but they also gave out a lot of talk window blackels. They're 100% worse. It's it's part of the business even if they're not if you're not giving your belts out how we're you're not gonna get people to come back Dude, I know a lot of people that were like my son's nine years old and he just got his black belt. I want to like oh What are you even saying? I will beat the shit out of that kid. It's right now. Well, that's the problem. We give it other nine year olds.

Kids that grow up are brown violence. If you get in street fights all the time, if you run, other kids get in street fights. People show you how to do things, you learn things. There's a lot of kids that are 10 to 11 years old that live in poor neighborhoods, whether it's South Boston or, you know, South Side Chicago, whatever, any dangerous neighborhood that's like filled with poverty, those kids will be more apt to succeed in fights. they understand how to fight the whole the trigger they're not going to be that's really the thing to know they have to pull the trigger because people pull the trigger on them or it's like there's a lot of people that talk a lot of shit but they never really pull the trigger see those guys yeah I mean I say pull the trigger obviously I mean punch someone I don't mean actually you said Chicago yeah especially after that nipsy hustle guy kills that's crazy that's so sad yeah on video too they have the uh... no

I don't know, but by all counts this guy was loved. And, you know, he just, it's just beyond fucked. Just like that, that's still going on in this world.

I don't know what was like in those lines. Something almost lines.

Like, what happens to them? Are they abused? Are they beaten? Are they around a lot of violence? Yeah. What do they expose to? And then how much more likely are you to commit that violence?

That's really what it is. I mean, the vast majority, it's not a shocker that so much violent crime comes from poor neighborhoods. It's like it makes itself. It makes itself. Of course, it's almost like a virus.

At all. Right. Yeah. And I talk, talking to you, right? I have little conversations with them. Don't just tell them what to do. We have to kind of find.

And it's definitely not, you know, I never lived in the worst neighborhood in the world, but I lived in a shady one for quite a bit. We lived in this place called Jamaica Plane outside of Boston for about a year. My parents knew immediately who we had to get the fuck out of there. I think we stayed maybe a year, a little over a year. And we got out of there as quick as we can, but there was like a lot of break-ins, a lot of. It was lower income. It wasn't terrible. It wasn't like a gang violence, shoot them up, type shit, but there was a lot of criminals. A lot of shady shit, shady poverty.

Do poverty makes people do crazy shit. It does. And it makes, I was never around kids that were that aggressive. Like kids were always trying to fight me. And I just moved there. We just moved there from Florida. And I was like fuck, I'm gonna get out of here. And this is what led me to martial art. How old are you?

And there was all these kids that were just, they were so, they were already fucked. They were already doing drugs. They were just making a plane. Low income white or white and Puerto Rican like Mostly that mostly white and Puerto Rican was a lot of it Just a lot of cigarettes smokers at 13 kids are smoking cigarettes really they were drinking all the time. I still like the long cigarettes for her when I was a pan that crazy. I swear I got like great fit Simmons lived in a house with two parents that were changed smokers in an apartment and they never opened the windows in the winter.

Oh, yeah, for 82. I'm 67. You, your mom was zero excuses. I thought you, I think. My mom was in the 60s, man.

It's just the, just the act of whether, no wonder when you start it, if you started at 20, if you started at 40, the act of raising another human being. It just changes who the fuck you are. It just does. It's like everything switches and gets weird. And then you're like, oh, I'm responsible for shaping your life. and it leaves helping to shape your life and if I do a good job you'll be a good person you'll go out there and you'll make more good people and you'll meet good people which is really what everybody wants at the end of the day everybody wants camaraderie and love and friendship. That's why like what's the worst shit that can happen today? You get canceled. Everybody wants to cancel people. You're out. Get out of here. You're done. It's over. There's a weird relationship.

It's not specific. It's not specific in terms like they don't want you to be able to make an income. They want to hurt you. That's what it is. Because they're scared of someone doing it to them. This is a big part of why people pull the trigger on that stuff. Whether they're just, the people are calling for people to get canceled for like nothing. Like little tiny things. Never again. It's because they're scared of it actually happening. So it's just like you have this ultimate power. to just like get upset at someone for virtually anything pick it pick a cause whatever it is.

But that's not what's important. What's important is the internet is essentially the whole world is a big window and everyone has a rock. If you just look at it through a rock, and if you find a thing to throw a rock about whether it's a throw a rock about politics or gender or race or a social justice or, you know, fill in the blank, the environment, the saving the animals, everyone's throwing rocks. You know, and very few people are actually communicating.

Of course, look America is amazing. It doesn't mean it's perfect. No. It certainly gives you more opportunity than anywhere that I've ever heard of. And it's a fun place, man. I like it here. Yeah. Fucking country is fun. But there's definitely some fucked up aspects of it. The fact that we're a country, this is the big one is immigration to me. Because immigration to me, when people take a hard line one way or the other, I'm always like, hmm man, this is a weird one. Immigration is a weird one. You don't want to diminish the quality of life for everyone in the country, but you don't want to not let people in because that's what the country's based on. And we see these fenced in people and where's it? Is it El Paso? There was something that they had on the news that they showed all these people fenced in and what looks like a dog kennel and these these people that snuck across the border and they captured them. So they just put them in this fucking outdoor fenced in cage. Dude, we don't even do that to violent murderers. Yeah. You have a violent murderer who's due process. Yeah, but not not just due process. You put him in a prison man. Right. Like they don't have the facilities to do what they're doing. Right. And then people are willing shouldn't be coming across the border. What I guess so, but wouldn't you?

You know, before they started spousing opinions, look at themselves and figure out why they're coming up with these opinions. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, just sort of, this one's like it pulls on your humanity. You see a bunch of people caged in with their children in some fenced in area that literally looks like a dog kennel. Yeah. This is crazy.

It says they treat us like we are animals holding pen for migrant families and El Paso shut down. It's shut down overnight I guess. Because people found out about it. It's crazy. Look at that. That's a dog kennel. It means people would just sit around waiting for what. I mean, if that was murderers, they wouldn't do that.

I don't know if that's the right answer. I don't know if it's the answer to either, but I guarantee you all of our, your relatives came from another country. My relatives all came from another country. I'm third generation. They knew that you're upset. They knew that Italy sucked. And so they're like, look, I mean, no disrespect, Italy, but they decided I got to get the fuck out of here. And they got on a boat, all of them. Grandparents on both sides, they both came over here when they were kids. Is Italy suck?

Well, the food is fantastic. Hot dudes. When I talk to a guy there that was trying to get in their stand, because he wanted his kids to go to college in America. And what he was basically saying was there was just not enough opportunity in Italy. And that he wanted his son to have more opportunity. And so he's driving a cab actually. They also speak to languages. They all speak perfect English, like a good percentage of it. It's a smart place. A lot in the art is insane. When you're going through Rome and you go through the Vatican and you see their billions of dollars, literally billions of dollars in artwork, you're like holy shit. This is what a crazy culture. Yeah. This culture all they wanted to do was create beautiful architecture, create beautiful art, make wine, make food, have sex, fuck like crazy, and kind of take over the world. I mean, they took over the world for a long-ass time.

Dude, I was driving with this cab driver with my kids in the car and this guy slowed down and checked out this chick's ass and yelled out the window at her. They're fucking savages, man. They're ape people. My ancestors. I'm allowed to say it. Are you ape folk?

Don't do what daddy says. Do what he says, not as I do. Exactly.

Yeah, the girls don't like it unless they really like it. Well, it depends if they could be freaks, but it's never worth the rest. You're not like one out of ten, mate might like it.

Just watch a Gomez defense cat calling live on the JRE.

Louis J. Gomez or you get a Dominican pitcher for Miami.

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Yeah. If you had a gay guy that you know could kick your ass, that's what it's like to be a check. Hmm. That's what it's like.

So yeah, probably outnumber you.

Wow. That's a good move. It's like dropping hair in your own food. Yeah.

That's a guy looking to see people shit. Yeah. Looking to suck some cock.

I've had it happen and I could beat the guy up. You know, like I've had it happen when it was a guy that was not physically a threat to me and it still made me super uncomfortable and I felt really weak. I felt like because you feel like it's also you're committing a hate crime if you beat this guy up for being gay No, it wasn't wasn't just a aggressive super aggressive like touching me putting his hands on my shoulders Tell me's gonna take me up to his room. I'm like you better get your fucking hands off Wow, I was like this is getting again

It's a little attention. It was disconcerting, but again, I wasn't physically vulnerable. Like I could decide that I just wanted to choke this guy unconscious, and I could just do this.

Yeah, but this guy was not like there was no, no guessing, you know, saying he was not a specimen. He was a scrawny dude. Right. He was just an aggressive gay guy.

He's got very good. He's got his right now. His guard, his defensive guard is one of the best in MMA. Very rarely the people pass his guard when he's on the ground. He's excellent.

Guys just talking. Yeah. That's what fighting it's like. It's like you look at a guy like Bisping and you know, he's like a normal guy. I mean he's obviously very athletic and he's big and everything like that. But he's he's not Shaquille O'Neill. He's not like a some seven foot something specimen. He's a regular size human. So like, well, he's moving like a regular human. I could do that. But you have no idea. It is. You're beyond helpless. You have no idea. Literally. Yeah. You have no idea. You grab the whole view. You're you're a dead person.

Yeah. There's intellectual levels, like I always feel like that. When we're going to talk to people that are really smart, like if I have a Sean Carroll or a Neil Grass Tyson or someone on the podcast, you talk to me, just like, God damn I'm fucking stupid. Yeah. You know, there's just levels to this. There's levels to this understanding of life. There's the like, but that's with everything with stand up, but artwork with with someone choking the life out of you. Yeah. This is day man. I've been doing G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G When's it coming?

It's just even crazier. Hicks and hoist is brother. Yeah. Hoist will tell you he's ten times better than him. Yeah. Hicks and would do to hoist what hoist would do to other black belt.

the story was they could have had hex anybody was too athletic and too you know there's a bunch of issues and I would not want to say exactly what happened for fear of upsetting either side because I think there's two different stories okay but he was essentially the champion of the family and one of the thoughts was that it would be more impressive if hoist did it because hoist was only 175 pounds and yeah with a shirt off me looked like he was fit but look like a volleyball player or something right, whereas Hickson was shredded. Hickson was like really in a physical training. He did a lot of gymnastics in yoga. He was unflammable. Yeah, but he was also like way physically stronger. It would appear more that he was just dominating some like a cat.

It wasn't necessarily true though because it was also talked that no one can control Hicks and it didn't want Hicks into win because Hicks and is a he's like a free spirit like in the greatest sense of the word like legitimately he might throw his phone the ocean to disappear for a month and just fucking serve in duty Jitsu somewhere. He's he's a freak in the best sense of the word So I don't think they ever thought they could control Hickson. That was part of the problem with having Hickson be the champion. Hickson would probably freeze up the whole organization. I want $10 million on their fight again. Like they were offering him fights for years and he had some crazy number that he wanted. And he was like, if you give me that number, I'll fight Fedor. If you give me that number, I'll fight the best fighters.

Yeah, after the UFC started, but everybody still knew. See, when the voice was winning, everyone still knew. Hickson was competing in something called Japan Valley Tuto, and he won that. You have to see that super high level GJ2, Pride 1 was Hickson. And Hickson was the guy that everybody knew that if something happened, and then, the voice was out of the UFC, or there was no other graces in the UFC, Hickson is always there to step in. and we're always wondering when is he going to step down? When is he going to fight the best guys? Never did. No, he fought some, he fought Foonaki who was a really high level guy. That was his last fight and he strangled him. Put him asleep. It's crazy image man. Him, Rere, Nick, and Choke Foonaki and Foonaki's eyes roll in the back of his head and he goes unconscious and Hicks and just throws him off. That's all stands up. He was a savage.

He just started nonsense. Hold you.

He did I don't think he he was hex and Gracie student I believe he's hoist I think he was from torrents so he was that was like that's like hanner and he ran yeah, yeah

I mean, if you trained for a martial arts fight, you could train for Jesus. It's a fun thing to learn to.

Continuously. And then the riddle will heal up like sticking out a little bit.

You talked about that. You got to be real careful. with who you're trained with because someone is really good, can train with you and you don't get hurt. If I roll with John Jacques Machado, I never get hurt. I never win, but I never get hurt. He's always in control. If you roll with a black belt, it's actually safer. Yeah, then rolling with like a really strong blue belt or a purple belt because they're just trying to kill you that you just want those they want those tap points Yeah, we would get you especially if you're Lewis J. Gomez from Legion's gang course, they know. I can get the arm triangle and squeeze the shit out of you. Yeah

And when you're doing wrestling drills, that's when a lot of guys get really injured. And you've got to make sure you're doing them with people that understand it's a drill and understand where your level's at. That's what's going on with the guy like that. He's just flexing on you. Yeah, he's just beating on you. Of course, because he's probably done it a million times. He's done those drills probably a million times, but you've done them zero times. It's crazy. It's crazy that he would do that and go hard with you.

There's another quote. That's a meme right there. You have to have a big dick at a nice butt to singlet.

They beat your ass from wrestling. But that's what makes people so tough. That's why wrestlers are like mentally, some of the toughest people alive. Yeah. They're so used to that grind. They can, they, they, they, they, they also take pleasure in suffering. Like no other sport. Like they enjoy it. Like they enjoy not being premedon and it's like all the best wrestlers. If you, you go back and you look at like the history of amateur wrestling, they're all known as being like hard, hard men, like Dan Gable. Dan Gable was a hard man. Yeah. You know, that motherfucker just trained his body into the ground. I think he's got two hip replacements to knee replacements. This isn't me. He just just keep going. He was an animal and he was just a unstoppable wrestler in his prime. Yeah, but that was part of it. It was that that mental strength that those guys have and all

Yeah, but it makes sense. If you know who George is, it makes sense. The reason why I make sense is two reasons. One, first of all, he was very athletic and he already had this leaping inability from karate. So he had this karate blitz ability. When you're diving in like for a punch or like a straight blast or something like that, that's very similar to diving in for a take down. in terms of your ability to spring forward. So George already had that with leaping into punch or leaping into kick. So he already had this ability to spring. Then on top of that, George is super intelligent. And he listens. He has zero ego. Like I've seen him be coached before. I've seen him like do jujitsu with like Don Hur or like really elite high level guys. And there's a lot of this videos of it online. He's very coachable. who listens to everything. No ego. He's not trying to do it a different way. He's trying to listen to you 100%. Guys like that, it's a shorter path to understanding the technique and to proficiency. Because they listen. Some people don't all, they don't listen all the way. They listen a little bit, but then they want to try it their way. Like even when they're training and sparring, you'll say, listen, listen for this round. I just want you to just try it this way. Just do this one thing. They'll try it for a couple of seconds and they'll give up and go back to their old style. And you're like, what happened? Like, it didn't feel comfortable. That's the point. Like, this is how you get better. George is the opposite of that. He just listens. Really coachable, I guess. He just understands that technique is everything. It's everything. Yeah. And if you understood, if you, you could learn like two or three techniques and have like a real high level proficiency, if you just continue to drill them and understand the counters. Like it's not, he's not like doing a lot of like crazy shit inside the octagon when it comes to wrestling.

But not like a Ben Aschron type style. What he is doing is a power double. He's got awesome singles on both sides. He knows how to take people down. He knows how to stuff take down. Just those things alone. That's all he needed to impose his MMA game.

It's hilarious. Yeah, he's a funny dude. Um, what also what George St. Pierre has is a extreme physical ability. Like you can do backflips. He does a lot of fucking gymnastics stuff. He's just he has excellent command over his body. Yeah, I was sneak aside.

I did play baseball. And then I actually quit doing everything else, but martial arts because of baseball. I want to see a red socks game. And Fenway Park, and when me and my buddy were coming home, there was like crazy crowds of people trying to get on the tee, which is the train to get home. So, um, We just for while we're walking by this Taikwondo gym. I walked up stairs. I want to see what it was all about. And as I was walking up stairs, there was this guy named John Lee, who was a national champion at the time. And one of the best black belts is guy, Jay Kim ever produced. And he was murdering this heavy bag. I mean, murdering it. Yeah. He was hitting it with his spinning back kicks that was making this sound like, whoa! And then you hit, drink with a chains would snap. because I mean, just extend to their full length because he was kicking his bag and it was flying through the air. And so I never seen anything and I was as close to him doing that as Jamie is to me right now because there was like a little wall and there was a heavy bag there. And the way Mr. Kim and Mr. O'Malley, Michael O'Malley, who was also the head instructor when Mr. Kim was gone, They set up the bags right there because they knew that if people were coming and thinking about signing up, and we got like John Lee's kicking the bag, you're like, I want to do that. How the fuck do you do that? Were you athletic at all? Were you wrestling? I wrestled. I did. I wrestled also while I was doing Taekwondo for one year. It was too much to do it the same time. But I did, I played baseball, but I wasn't very good. I just like, I never ever tried to get on base. I always tried to hit homeruns. The coach said, just hit a single, just hit a single. We really need this. Like, yeah, fuck you. I got there and swing for the bleachers. I can give a fuck man.

Yeah. I hit one home run once and that was it. I was like, oh, I can do that. Like, I didn't know I could do that because I was a little kid. I could swing pretty hard. And you know, their light bats and the kids aren't throwing very fast and Woody else is 13, too. You know, but from going to that one, Taekwondo gym watching that one guy became like a mentor to me in a lot of ways. And he went back to that gym specifically. That was a lot. 100%. I was like, I never saw anything like that. I'd done a little bit of martial arts by then. I did a little bit of karate. But not much, but I never saw anybody kick a bag. The Christ school that I went to didn't emphasize that, which it's a very important part of developing power. You have to be able to kick a bag.

It's a foolish mistake that a lot of gyms make. They emphasize speed and like kicking pads over the power. You have to kick a power. Or just break some ice. You got to hit a bag. You got to hit a bag because the bag resists. If it's a hundred pounds, you got to realize that you're not just hitting this thing. You're also pushing a hundred pounds with your foot. You're pushing a hundred pounds with your foot. So if you're standing in front of a hundred pound bag, you're not just hitting it hard. You're moving a hundred pounds with your hips and your lips and your abs and your core. That's, that's, that's interesting. Yes, you're actually getting a real it's a plyo there's actual physical resistance in terms of weight and that's how you get stronger the only way the only way you really develop like destruction power like you know that some people can you do that though?

You can't hit hard. You can't hit is hard as some people do you think you can teach it to have knockout power no You either have it or you don't. I think you can increase someone's power. And most people can knock people out. Most people. If you taught them where to hit someone and they hit someone clean, they could hurt someone. Especially most men who actually know how to punch a little bit. Yeah. But there's a big difference between that kind of punch and power and say like a Tommy Hurns in his prime, punching power, or a Lennox Lewis straight right hand. Like this, you don't have that man. Now you either have that you don't have that and some people just I saw guys that were like fucking 15 they had that it was crazy he watched guys that like at a young age they would hit a pad or hit a bag and he'd be like fuck this is crazy like how do you have so much power yeah and you don't know why you don't know the strength you know they could be anything well actually like we 80 did

where to hit me like, especially if you went to the wrong gym and they had you sparring right away, which a lot of gyms do. They'll throw guys to the wolves just to see if they're worth keeping around. They'll try you like right out of the street. They'll show you a few punches. Have you hit the pads a little bit? Tell you to keep your hands up. Then they'll have you sparring. I've seen it half a month ago. No, just just to let you know and sometimes you know that you'll be sparring with a pro so they won't hurt you. They just pop you a little bit pop pop to the body. Pop just trying to get some work in. You know, just looking for an easy target.

It could be worse. Soxing is the problem with it as a casual thing, though, is the punches that don't even hurt you. They just rattle your head a little. Those all count. All those count. Those are probably sometimes worse. Yeah. Because there's so many of them. You don't even notice. So if you get hit with one big shot, you'll stop. Like your head gets rattled. You get a headache. You sit down and you're like, oh fuck. But you'll stop. If you get hit a few times, you treat it like it's nothing. You just get popped a few times you're in there. You get hit.

I got something over your eye. You don't think about it, but you got hit in the head 30 times. You never got dropped, so you're like, I'm fine. I didn't take any damage, but you did. You just don't, you don't think of that as damage. And now they're understanding that that is as much of what you're seeing from CTE's that sub-concussive trauma, probably more so because it's so frequent.

Say everything, man. Dr. Mark Gordon said fucking jet skis. He said the bang of jet skis. When you're bumping away, he's like, that's terrible for your fucking head. Like how about anger's young from ACDC? I'd like to do it. I'd like to do it.

I'd like to do an MRI to see like how maybe is the fibers of his brain strengthened from 100 years of head bang.

Give me some easy, easy, Jamie. And I just not head banging. Angus would on stage play and head banging at the same time. Like try rubbing the top of your head. and your stomach at the same time you know now imagine padding your head and imagine now imagine trying to play guitar and head bang at the same time and then catch all the tunes fuck I was in a band when I was in high school to I played drums that was

No, no, no musical talent whatsoever. Look at these all these groupie chicks from the 70s hilarious. Look at them.

I think is everybody knew what they were getting into.

Maybe it's a different time. Like those ladies had a different approach to things.

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I'm going to write a letter to a publicist, too. What would you do if you got if someone sexually assaulted you in 1981? What would you do? I mean, go to the cops.

They would, you know, if the guy was a rich guy turned his lawyers on you. Yeah, different world. It's all, I mean, I'ma of the Stephen Pinker view of progress that I think that although the world is not perfect. I think it's just way better than it is way better.

Yeah, we certainly can. Yeah, I mean, people, there's a lot of this nonsense like energy on social media. We're just arguing about things all day long and salting people, all day long. And that shit is so bad for your head to engage in that all day. Yeah. It feels way better to not engage.

I just think overall in general it's better to be who gives a fuck because I think there's there's criticism that's valid that you understand like you you should be able to know whether you fucked up or whether something was good or not you should be able to look at and go oh that wasn't my best work and beyond it's about that Um, but then once you're honest about that and you do your best work like either you like it. You don't the idea that ever was gonna like it. It's crazy because people just don't like the same things that everybody likes what you're doing at fucking stinks. There's someone out there listening to Fleetwood Mac 24. Seven. Okay. They never heard a fucking two-pox song. There's no biggie in their car. They never listen to Nas. It is fucking tusk all day long every day. That's okay. That's okay, too, man. You know, if you're really into Fleetwood Mac and someone tries playing, you know, some Led Zeppelin and you're not into it and you get angry. Okay, that's not your fault. It's just like, that's not all you're into. Yeah. If someone comes to see you in the girl, this guy's just not for me. But then some 25-year-old guy's like, ah, I love it. Well, he's not wrong. No.

I don't need to do that because you can have an opinion, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but for you to say that your opinion is more important than the whole show, it's crazy. Yes. That's what you're doing. You either do one or two things. Either your ego is so inflated, you think you're going to correct this person and you're going to stop their jokes in its tracks and they're going to realize the error of their ways and it's going to make them a better person. And you're going to also educate this entire crowd. It's been laughing at this awful stuff. That's a full, hardy way of looking and saying,

Well, the thing is, people see every time you're on stage, they see you as, this is a finished product you're presenting. What they don't understand is, and I'm hoping people get it more now than they ever did before, but some people still don't get it. It's a year, the way we work stuff out is by trying it on stage, and sometimes we take chances. And sometimes those chances come out terrible. And it's not that we're a bad person. We're trying to figure out the right combination of things. And sometimes you try to do it in the moment.

Don't understand. The napy headed hose come back. Yeah.

Isn't the right word? Well, the problem is we're trying it out with the people. You need the audience to help you create the business. They're in the process. They don't think of them.

Well, they don't understand it. And so like, I mean, you don't have to laugh. Like, I know it's not funny if it comes out wrong. But if you, if you get mad at someone for something that's not done yet or in the, but there's, you know, there are points in time where someone can say something that's so egregiously incorrect that at the very least you want to leave the room. I get that. I mean, I've seen it. I've seen people say things on stage.

I thought it was stupid if it was insulting to my intelligence. If I was frustrated listening to this idiot, talk on stage. I would leave the room. Yeah. Nothing wrong with leaving the room. But this is a big difference between leaving the room and yelling out. Hey, man, what you're saying is not funny. This is not funny. I don't care whether why these fucking people are laughing. Shit's not funny. You should stop talking about it. Like, that's nonsense. That's nonsense. Like, you're not at a fucking court where someone's reading affidavit stupid. This is someone trying to make funny out of life. yeah it either works or it doesn't and if it doesn't that's okay i'll figure it out or i won't figure that be the way this is just the process you yelling out something you know throwing up your flag of virtue in front of everyone's just preposterous it's like you don't you don't get to do that at a comedy club and it's right that they kick you out it's just a stupid it's a stupid way to handle it and then when guys are like I'm helping the show oh my god that is the ultimate stupid no just because everyone's laughing now because I'm roasting you doesn't mean you're helping the show stupid yeah it's uh...

Well, some people think that they could do comedy. And so that's why they do it.

Fuck dude. But you got to be laughing at it. Yeah. But then the problem is it encourages more people. And then people get drunk. And then as the night goes on, like, there's always some dummy. He's been holding on to this idea. He's going to heckle you about something. He's got it in his head for like 10 minutes and finally blurt it out. You're like, what? You were holding on to that for all that time? Yeah.

God, there's no fish left. Dude, we keep going. Yeah, I joke around about this all the time because it kind of, it's one of the things that freaks me out more than anything about what people do on the planet. What? It's suck vision of the ocean. Dude, I've watched countless hours of commercial fishing nets, pulling gigantic halls of fish into their boats. Yeah. And you're like, how many souls?

There's no souls in a fish.

Fish don't even take care of their babies man. Like one or two fish do some of them hold their babies in their mouth. But fish they just shit out some eggs. Mail comes over jizz on the eggs. It's like they have such a minimal connection because they know their time is short. How old is likely they're not going to survive?

It's a good question. But I'm sure it varies.

Um, let's say a grouper. That's a giant ass fish. How old is an old grouper? I want to say 30. That old.

Because groupers are gigantic ocean fish. They could be 30 days or 30 years.

It's definitely years. It's definitely years. 30 years. 30 years. I nailed it. Oh, we're all got him. Holy shit. Total guess. Total guess. Yeah, that makes sense though. Like a deer, a deer lives like if everything goes perfect, a deer live like 15 years and then they get jacked by something. You mean Joe Rogan?

Yeah, they don't even know how old those fuckers are. Yeah, they could be a thousand years old, right? Isn't it the case? Really? Something crazy like that? Yeah. Yeah, I think a giant turtle can live. We should probably go with that.

Do you know what they used to do on boats, man? They used to fill the hull like the bottom of the boat with turtles. They take the turtles and they flip them on their back because they'll live down there for months. on their back because they don't really have to eat all the time. That's how they would use, they'd use them for food. So they would have all these turtles.

And then they would eat the live. So they weren't rotting, but they couldn't do jack shit because they were on their backs. And so they would go down there and pick them up and take a turtle and bring it upstairs and cook it. Have you ever had turtle soup? Yeah. Go think I have. I said that, why wouldn't I say that? I'm like, are you lying? I think I have. I think I had it once a long time ago. I can't remember.

It's like a place that's like the best. You want to have smell good?

I've only tried alligator meat at like one of those TGI Friday type joints. You know, one of those like chain type and it was like deep fried batter fried.

But apparently when they get it fresh, like if they shoot an alligator and then they take like the back straps off of it and they cook it correctly, it's delicious. Apparently. But it's one of those things that like when you get it at a restaurant, unless it's like a legit restaurant, like they're probably serving you some frozen frozen.

And how they how they take care of it before they froze it. I mean, you ever see those swamp people shows with them? Boats filled with fucking alligators. I don't even think they're eating those, man. I think most of those, they're just taking the skins off of them.

Yeah, that's, that's what's really valuable.

Like, you could kill something and you definitely could if you wanted to feed your son. There's no doubt in my mind. If you had a gun and there was a deer and you were hungry. Who's starving? Yes. You don't even have to be starving. You just have to have not the best processing right now.

I'll fucking. What is this, Jamie? 46 grams protein and alligator.

Three, three ounces. Holy shit. Three ounces of alligator. 46 grams protein.

Well, of course, it's a goddamn murderous dinosaur.

Dude Florida, there's too many oligators. They can't keep track of them. So if you have a body of water and you're not standing there 24, 7 when the fucking spotlight in a rifle, those cuts can sneak into that water. That's a real shit man. Yeah. They'll sneak into that water. They'll cross that grass. You don't know they're there. They climate that water. You don't know they're there. And they'll be underwater for an hour, two hours. And they'll pop that little head up. They see that little kid. God damn, I'm hungry. That kids too close the water. And let's just grab them. They don't. Haven't even qualms about that. They don't know what the fuck you are. They don't care what you are. They they have a brain the size of a goddamn walnut and they've been alive in that form for who knows how many fucking millions of years and they just kill each kill each take they can go without food for a year, man Really 95 out of get is removed from Disney property in Orlando fucking toddler killed 95 That was just like in that last year.

Bro, we were there like a year ago and first of all, if you haven't gone Disneyland Disneyland has the dope is fucking right in the history of the world. That's a world avatar world is a Florida land here. Yeah, I right world. Sorry. Disney land will have the dopest ride when they have this millennium falcon ride that opens up supposedly it's insane but the the avatar ride in Disney world in Orlando is off the charts. Yeah. It's crazy, man. It let's you know, like, oh my god, the future of these fucking rides. It's like one of those like, uh, the reality.

You put on this helmet and the helmet is the virtual reality goggle and it straps you into this chair. And this chair is like, it looks like a motorcycle. Yeah. And then you look down and you were riding this dragon. And that's it. And you go this full HD 3D environment that they keep getting better and better in the shit.

That's a fun ride.

Love the Harry Potter. What in the fuck is that stupid fake dinosaur?

I know it's not even remotely scary. It's like, what is it?

Oh my god. It remains the most expensive amusement park ride of all time and actually cost twice as much as Jurassic Park the movie.

Whoever made that right now has a bottle of champagne, one hand, a coke tray and the other. They're living in the homo. Some shit's laughing about how they've got $110 million to make the shitty ass ride. They're just living like a baller. It's uh, yeah, it is, it's a different, I mean, like, Jay-Z and Big Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin' Pimpin'

I wonder if they're cooler about it now now.

Well, not only that what would it what if it was a vape pen with tobacco or CBD or are you allowed to do that?

Like, get out of here, stoner. Yeah. I was listening to the radio and Utah. And they were talking about how they have to re, they have to fear what to do with their drug sniffing dogs now. There's no reason why. Is there a change in Utah as Utah changing their drug policy? Because it was funny listening to this old dude on just for the for the fuck of it. I was listening to Am radio talk radio and this old dude was talking about how they they're going to decommission some of these drug sniffing dogs because they use them on traffic stops. There we go. Medical marijuana in Utah could mean retirement for generation of drug canines.

Well, they also were worried about the police officers, some selves, losing jobs. When you hear about pot that's making its way into a place like Utah, you know, first of all, you realize, God damn, pot is really, you can't stop it. It's here. The genies out of the bottle. It's here. The revenues and grandma feels better, you know, the Alzheimer, the people that have all these serious issues that CBD is fixing right as patients. People with like real problems that are not finding any other solution that works for the way cannabis does. They're just given in and then they're making all this money. But then you see these old folks that are from a different time and they're talking about it and they look at it in terms of like how many police jobs are going to go away. How many dogs are going to be?

Interesting to watch them look at it as an economic issue.

Well, I was taken one and one. It's like one gram of CBD to one gram of THC. Like it's one part. Well, so whatever milligrams you have, it's both like it's 10 milligrams CBD. It's 10 milligrams a week as well. It's potent. Yeah. I take regular CBD too though. I take oil. I feel like it's very beneficial and much more potent in terms of it's anti-inflammatory benefits than just smoking it. Smoking it does something for you, it definitely reduces inflammation, makes you feel better. I was taking sore joints. It's topical, I was using it. Topicals good, too. But I think the real combination is topical plus the oil. You don't have to take it. But a lot of people find that they have better pain relief from one plus one, like one part, THC, one part. So it's like edible, marijuana mixed with CBD. A lot of people find great benefit in that for some reason.

It's just a plant folks. And if you just get straight CBD, it has no psychoactive properties. It's not going to. The only thing it's going to do is for some folks, and it works a little bit that way. With me, it alleviates some anxiety and it just relaxes you.

When they arrested, they take you in.

I want to eat fucking Lewis Gomez. This must have rap sheets. Doggy.

Have you been to Panama any time recently sir?

And everybody's got weed in her pocket in New York City, okay? It's just so stupid that it's still illegal there. Like how the fuck is that clinging on in one of the biggest cities in the world? How the fuck is that still?

One of the guys kept the UFC out, one of going to jail. One of the guys who was actively campaigned to keep the USC out. He went to jail for corruption. Which guy was this? I don't remember. Fuck him. Yeah. That was the whole thing. We dealt with that for a long time. I don't care. I knew what it was, man. You know, I used to live in New York. I know what it is. There's a lot of that shit still around. It's too big of a city too much too many rats and the holes. You know what you're are in the streets of New York City, just all throughout the bottom of the subway and running around the sewer system is rats. Yeah, they just like they become a part of the ecosystem. Well, this human rats, too, is like creepy corrupt motherfuckers that have been manipulating shit and getting people to pay them off for protection and all sorts of sneaky fucking city related shit that takes forever to clean out. Yeah. It's just to get it out of the streets of New York. Uh, it would take forever. They did a good job. I mean, they cleaned up Times Square. They've they eliminated a lot of the mob, but they're still a little mob killings, right? That guy just got wild.

Just got whacked.

Yeah, right? I know, like mob boss's wives.

Still those fucking children growing up gotty. That was one of them. Whatever one were less lady was I remember watching one with his girl was drinking and she she got mouthy with us this guy. And then the guy told her to go fuck herself. She said, oh yeah, and she calls her ex husband up who said mobster, the ex husband comes over and talks to the guy. I'm like, you imagine you're some poor guy at a bar. crazy lady starts yelling shit out you go fuck you cut and she calls this guy comes over and you look in his eyes you know he's killed about 18 fucking people you're like oh Jesus yeah yeah yeah well that's the other thing it's like you know

You have to fight for my own. Yeah.

No, most of the time. Most of the time does not end good, especially if blows start flying. Man, people getting knocked out. Some guy got hurt really bad at a Dodgers game recently. He got knocked out and cracked his head off the ground. That's what people need to understand. People die from that shit. You watch movies and people knock people out and the person's fine. You could get a goddamn murder app. If you punch someone and they fall, and most people when you punch them in the face, they go unconscious. They have no idea what happened. They go unconscious, their head bounces off the ground. They die. It happens all the time. Kevin James, when he was a kid, he was a bouncer in Long Island. One of the guys at the bar, I don't think he was working that night, but one of the guys he knew and worked with, knock the guy out, the guy fell, hit his head off a curb, dead. Guy went up, going for years. It's been years in jail. It's something fucking $10 an hour job where you fight and drugs.

Just getting into some dumb fight, which is... Thinking it's okay to just tee off on someone's face.

people falling and hitting their head and dying. That's not rare at all. That's really common. Think about what that is. I've seen a lot of people get knocked out.

I haven't seen them die, but they could easily. I guarantee you, in a major city like New York, I bet somebody dies falling and hitting their head off the curb every week. when you punch someone and they fall. Think about how far that is, right? Think about the amount of force that's involved. Now, think about if you are standing there and so when hit you in the back of the head with something, now think about that something was the fucking world, the earth. It doesn't give it all. Concrete doesn't give it all. The only thing that gives it your head, your head has to bounce and your skull fractures and you get internal bleeding, your brain hemorrhages, it cuts off your ability to move, you might have a stroke, you might have an, I mean, it's horrible. Getting knocked out and falling and hitting your head off the ground is a terrifying thing. And when you hear the sound of smack of someone's head bouncing off the concrete, it sounds hollow. It sounds like a melon. It sounds terrible. Like a hard melon or something like that.

Oh, it's like the worst dude. Grew some falling backwards though. There's something especially when you get hit. You get fucking clipped on the chin. Your head snaps and your lights shut off and you just fall and bounce. It's even in boxing matches, man. So the scariest knockouts when a guy gets KOed and then his head bounces off the ground.

in MMA and the UFC same thing with guys fall back and head bounces off the ground. It's like a double knock.

Look at this. Every day, 153 people in the United States die from injuries that include traumatic brain injury. Wait a minute. Okay. that include traumatic brain injury, so it's an injury that also has traumatic brain injury. I see what they're saying. Those who survive a TBI can face effects that lasts a few days or the rest of their lives. That's the other thing. And paired thinking or memory, movement sensation, vision, emotional functioning, personality changes or depression. These issues, not only affect individuals, can have lasting effects on families and communities. Um, yeah, man. Don't don't get hit in the head. Don't avoid it. Yeah, take it for somebody that's been hit in the head.

This people that live in like Montana that are listening to this right now, they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like you look each other in the eye and someone wants to fight. There's no reason. This is the nature of being pinned up. Yeah. That many people else fucking do something cool about it. The cool thing we talked about before that people are like, you are exposed. Even if you're a poor kid, you're exposed to rich people. They're they're normal. Like it doesn't seem unattainable or unenchable. They're all around you. The path is there. Well, there are humans that are just like you, you're around them. But if you live in a place where you're never around them, you never get that. So there's benefits to New York. For sure, culturally there's benefits. Just the energy, the city and so much creativity, so much going on.

show them some shit on the weekends, take them places in the weekends where you could be around the woods or you could get like the best of both worlds. There's definitely a there's a benefit to being in a city where you're a kid or an adult. There's definitely a benefit. The negative part is this depreciation of value of life. There's so many people. You don't think of a man as being as important. There are a hindrance as much as they are like a nice thing to see.

Well, if the world was just one person like that, that was the only issue. Just one lady just need some help. You'd be, uh, we'll just help her. Yeah. But when there's a million of them, you know, like, why can't help? I just can't do this. I got to keep going. I got to concentrate on my own shit. Yeah. And that's like, that's a microcosm of what happens in a city. Yeah. If that lady was in a small town, she would be the the crazy beggar lady. People would probably like figure out a way to help.

Some people that there's a problem is it's just like Humans some humans when you give them that as an option just begging like this guys who do it and there was a whole Sanford when I lived in San Francisco there was a news report thing about this guy was doing it for a living who's making a lot of money a lot of money now He's just begging and he was essentially saying there's nothing wrong with it. It's totally legal and I just make up stories and have people donate money to me and I think of it as like an occupation. So he was weird listening to him talk about it because he was telling this lady who was the reporter lady who was telling her how she could do it to and you know how he was doing it and how he shows people how to do it. But he was making like a decent living. A couple hundred bucks a day. Yeah, I'm sure. I remember because I was a kid, but I remember listening, oh, this motherfucker. He's just faking it. I don't in a weird way.

There's not never a good thing having someone who's lying to everybody all the time.

I really do. They're boring. Yeah. Yeah, it's boring. It's boring. Just figuring it out stupid. Stop lying.

They just find in the Lemmings. That's all they're doing. They're finding Lemmings. They're finding people that don't know any better. People that it, what's three-card money? Come on, I'll show you.

So it's sort of like that's, but that's not the same thing. Like that lady might just be crazy. She's not a con artist. Con artists are people lying and pretending to listen my car broke down. My wife and kid having anything to eat 24 hours and I'm really in a bad situation. I would never do this, but I just ask you if you could just give me $5. And the guy says, oh, thank you. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sorry. Here's $5. Next person. Hey, man, I need to go take this flight to see my mom. She's dying of cancer.

They have the same story. They don't change all the time.

Yeah, no, it's not only benefit is that you grow up around people that are full of shit and you learn how to spot people that are full of shit. It's going to benefit.

I appreciate it. It goes out and gets a fucking job. You don't just lie to people everywhere with some stupid story about how you missed your bus. Yeah, shit together pussy. Stop moochin money from people. That's gross. Well, what about it's gross?

That's maybe a bit different because he's offering something. He has his art.

You do not want a CD player. I do not want up top.

Yeah, that was in Columbus, too. Was it? Yeah. Yeah, he's got a job, right? Yeah, he's got a job, right? Yeah, he's got a job, right?

Yeah, he's got a job, right?

Yeah, he's got a job, right?

He's got a job, right? He's got a job, right? He's got a job, right? He's got a job, right? He's got a job, right? He's got a job, right? He's got a job, right? He's got a job

It's very good voice. Yeah great voice radio voice You got a lot of kids and he just wound up going right back to being a homeless person right well, dude.

But this is him. Yeah, this is him. Let's hear it.

Yeah, and then he fell on how well.

I have a theory. I think doing that for a living makes you fucking crazy. That's what I think. I think if you have that fake voice eventually you just snap. You know, I can't do this anymore. I can't talk like this. I can have this fake voice. Yeah. Yeah. Blow a fuse and that guy blew a fuse.

No. I've voiced over a couple things but not nothing serious.

Oh, I know. Judy Brown is that what it is. You're so close. It's not Judy Brown. You're close. Something like that.

So she and with these wrote books on how to do stand up.

She's the one who did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she had a bunch of them, but there was like no real evidence of her being good at comedy.

Shouldy, something, how do you just fuck? There was a, here's a deal. for people who doesn't know what the fuck we're talking about. There was literally no books on how to do stand up. There was no books. There was a couple books written by comics and they were almost always tongue-in-cheek like bells or Richard Bellzer wrote a book on how to do stand up and just gave you some like joke advice for the most part of the Carter. Judy Carter. Carter. Yep. So she wrote these books and how to do stand up and everybody bought those books. Everybody they want to try to do stand up bought those books.

You don't care for the time of the day.

It's fucking a dirty quarter. Maybe she's funny. I'm just joking. Impossible. So God damn sensitive these days. Yeah. Did you do find that? That's like what we're doing, honestly, a podcast, just in the realm of talking shit. This is one of the last bastions of actual shit talking. Yeah. When we smoke weed, you just sit back and chill half, like half the fight companion podcast that we do. We want to be in completely blitz, great hammered by a time it's over. Oh, yeah. You're talking shit live. And this is not in real time.

I'm just pretty good. It's like what Patrice said is so pertinent. It's so important that it all comes from the same place. Whether it hits or misses, like when you're just trying to be funny, you're just trying to be funny. Like that's all you're trying to do. You're not trying to hurt anybody.

It also fits in with what you do. Yeah. And that's what you do. So it fits in. They're jumping in. We lost balls.

You called Legion of Skantz. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck is anybody expecting from that name?

That's a mistake by their part.

We don't need it with with the internet today, man. You don't need anything.

Well, not only that. Do you really have aspirations to be an actor? No, I do. One of those stupid things they've roped you into. It's one of those stupid things they've roped you into. It's wasting time. Yeah. They roped you into it because like Mitch Hedberg had a whole joke about it, but that comedy is one of the weird things that if you like do comedy, they expect you to also act. Yeah. You know, I forget the bit.

Yeah, it is. Well, not really. Because if you can act, you could be a comic. If you can do comedy, I think you can act. I think it's possible. Maybe it's possible. More likely if you do comedy, you can act. This might be my own bias. More likely. Do you want some weed? You don't have to roll it like a peasant.

We're in a hospital. I love you now. He's the best that wore chest in the back. That's all we do we get high for a year. I don't know what's just fucking dope. Where's the one that we just had? Is that it?

What get when it's as fresh as possible that might be it that last one might be it Well one second to go you're like do we got weed for days here? Yeah, we're fucking gone through roaches to what's his face? Action Bronson. Action Bronson came in here. And by the time the Ashtray was done, I had to take pictures of it. This is ridiculous. This is all his weed.

Like, seven joints. I mean, blunt. Just kept up big ones. Sticks, bats. Yeah.

I was saying I wrote, I wrote last night at like one o'clock in the morning. I took an edible, gave the misses the business. And then afterwards, I couldn't lay down. I was laying down. I was like, midnight. All these ideas were rolling through my head. And I know the right thing to do. I got to get up and write. And sometimes you write and just bullshit comes out. And there's nothing there. And sometimes you write and just hit a vain man. Whether it's creativity, vulnerability, life experiences, thoughts, and recent things, the news, everything just comes together. Boom! And then you have these ideas. And then those ideas could eventually be bits. That's like those moments when you get an idea, and when you get the inspiration to write, man, as a comics, one of the most important things to capture. You've got to dive on those. Because you might have your next closing bit in that moment.

I'm sure he's awesome. I'm believable guy. I didn't know from Boston. I'm out here. I'm out. I think I'm at him with the laugh act.

Um, but I fuck up. It's probably all the time. It's okay to bomb taking risks. Oh, it's good for him. There's also, I think there's a Twitter called advice for writers. That's interesting. Here's the number one thing, though. Here's number one. Right. Just do it. Just get out there and make it happen to start moving. You got to force yourself to sit in front of a no-pad or whatever it is for X amount of time a day. Have a fucking timer, set it. Make sure you do it. And then if that timer goes off, you're still working, keep going. If you can, if you feel it, keep going, but make yourself do it. If you just make yourself do it, that's more important than anything else. All that other stuff, the other stuff is good. It's all good to have structure and understanding, but the number one thing people have a problem with is doing it. It's like talking about exercise but not exercising.

That's fun too, man. Tweet jokes are great. Nothing wrong. A lot of people have become famous for having a really good Twitter account when they say funny shit. Nothing wrong with that. But you've got to write for yourself, man. Like writing for yourself is everything. It's everything. It's one thing that we tend to fuck off on. You know, so one thing the I like to reinforce it.

That's everything. I listen to him in my car. I have a listen to him on the way. If I'm working on some new shit, try to say, oh, yeah, don't forget that part. Oh, make sure you pause there. Make sure you make maybe if you emphasize this first. I think you're thinking a bunch is right there. But it's like doing an extra set. So like say if you do three sets a night, but you record three sets a night and you listen to two sets a night. Now you did five sets a night. It is like it because you're in that mindset maybe even more beneficial. Like not beneficial in terms of like you know that groove that you get in when you just loose on stage and everything's flowing. Like the only way to get there I think or the only way I know how to get there I should say is I have to do a lot of stand up. If I don't do a lot of stand up there's always this weird feeling of awkwardness that you have to overcome at the beginning. When you do a lot of stand up right away, you can be loose. And that is essential for getting the material across the best way. But you probably can get a lot of work done on top of that if you listen more. A lot of guys don't like to listen. It sounds gross. Listen to yourself. Like shut up stupid. You're so annoying and fake.

Yeah, if you care about what you do, you're going to hate it. You know, Alexander Gustafson said something like that once. So he's one of the UFC's top light heavy weights and he was talking about being a professional fighter that as a professional athlete, he was never satisfied and still is never satisfied. Like nothing, nothing's ever good enough. And this is just the mindset that you have to be to be in elite athlete. And I think anything you're really trying to do, you're going to pick it apart. And as you're picking it apart, you're going to find stuff that you hate. But you guys still find stuff that you love, too. The balance of doing too many sets, you know, when you do too many sets and you get stale, you know, flat. Yeah, that's not good either.

That's part of it because you know, so it's hard for you to be in the moment, because it's like you've heard it too many times, so you don't want to say it again.

But that's the process that you have to go through and, you know, that... I think Stan hope yelled at a guy to stop coming and sitting in the front row. Like, because he did a second show and the guy was there for the second show two and the same spot. He's like, what the fuck, you can't do that. Yeah, it can definitely mess your head. The illusion of you being in the moment talking about these subjects is out the window if someone saw you do it the exact same way three hours.

Yeah, but there's some people that love the process. I met these two ladies in Austin that travel around the world. Listening to stand up. They went to see Ari in Iceland and I think they saw him in the UK too. They're like fans of the process of comedy. And they said that they were at the comedy store like a week before when I did a set there and then they came to the shows in Austin because that's where they live. But they travel around watching comedy and they wanted to talk about the process of it. It's really interesting because they'll get to see all these different sets. They'll get to see sets where things don't go so great, sets where you switch it up and think, you'll see that at the comedy store all the time. There's people that go there like two or three nights a week. Yeah, they just they it's it's a rare art form where it one day will be seen by millions right you put it on whatever you're on Hulu or iTunes or whatever the fuck it is Netflix if you're on Netflix you're gonna be seen by millions of people like but 150 can watch practice. Yeah. And the same ones can watch the practice.

I don't want to have pros and cons in here.

Some people, some people only want to hear the new ship, but that's cool too. Just sit around and wait.

Yeah, he used to get these to get angry if he didn't do the heads.

I think he has to. I think Burke Chrysler has to tell the machine story. Still, right?

It's half the hour. Doesn't he still tell that story? I think he tells that story. I'm sure what people will be mad. Brett has taken to taking his shirt off in the original room with the comic story as well. It wasn't, he would save the shirt off for the main room, but now he's taken to the next level. So, he takes a shirt off immediately. Since Starbucks takes a shirt off. They're way too close to him, so they're all get uncomfortable. They're like, what are you doing?

yeah probably taste delicious unbelievable in the moment right some barbecue what kind of what is that stuff when you get barbecue chips what is what is barbecue first of all does not taste like barbecue it has a taste and that taste is barbecue potato chip taste is not barbecue orange dust whatever the flavor is yeah great flavor is doesn't taste like great all but you know like if you have But if somebody gives you a piece of great bubble gum, you're like, oh, this is great. Like, bitch, that doesn't take like a grape.

So true. Yeah. Orange soda. Can't bitch. That is not orange. Like, what is that? This is not the taste of orange at all. This is a taste like orange.

What is barbecue potato chips? What the fuck is that taste? Because that's a weird taste, right? That's just not taste like barbecue.

Should not be putting into your body. Oh, there's gotta be some trans fats and then bitches too. Come on, Joe. It's 2019. You're not using that. Still using trans fats? Still outside trans fats. It's getting there though. You can say trans. Trans is okay. Don't deviate with new sounds with your face. Yeah. And mean the exact same thing or people get furious. Yeah. Trans fats are okay. Trans fats. You'll get mad if you say it too much. Like do you just get off on saying trans? Is that the way you say trans fats?

Some fucking barbecue chip fan. Yeah. What's in that stuff? What is barbecue chip?

Oh, maldexdros. That's a sugar, right? Is that some kind of sugar? Probably. It is a weird acceptance that the barbecue chip flavor. We accept that flavor. It's great, but it does not taste like fucking barbecue. I'd never I would never go with barbecue barbecue chips never I'll take them every time barbecue is always sauce.

I think for sure is sea salt and vinegar. Yeah, if you want some potato chips. I'll fuck up some sea salt and vinegar. Let's see.

It's not bad. That's good, too.

Yeah, um, why I see salt. Why am I so pretentious? I want my salt from the ocean. I don't see salt.

I'd like to know if I can. I can't. I bet him a lay and salt taste a little different. Maybe. What do you think? Probably like a little different.

I would I would back the disagree if you want to cook a steak especially a rib eye and you don't have kosher salt. You don't know what the fuck you're doing. You want that thick ass.

I don't know is actually kosher Jews use magic. The Jews are praying over. weed. It's weed, Joe. I've killed like at least four laptops. That's one of the reasons why I switched to a Windows laptop. I have a Lenovo, not just for the best keyboard, but also because they fucking things are waterproof. Like how does Apple not have waterproof computers? You spill your coffee on your Apple computer that shit is dead.

And it's oh my god. That's it. It's on your assistant. Yeah, water resistant.

It's fine. And you make sure you have the one that's water resistant like you might not have you might have an older model. Yeah, like I have an iPhone throw the ocean But the fucking laptops, they short out. I've shorted out. How many? Jamie. How many have I killed?

At least killed four laptops.

Why aren't laptops all fucking waterproof? That's what I'm saying. Like, fix that stupid. Did they just want to make a lot of money repairs? Is that what that is?

Why doesn't Apple listen? Listen, folks. You got to make better keyboards. Your keyboards are dark shit.

Oh, but the keyboard issue is a, that's a breaking keyboard. The keyboards suck even if they work perfectly. They suck for writing. There's no, there's no travel. It's a very short travel and they're flat. Like, they don't, it doesn't feel good for your hands. I think it's good use to it. It's stupid. You shouldn't have to get used to it. Like if you like a Lenovo keyboard, it's so much better today.

I'll tell you what it is. It's the way it looks. They like the fact that it looks really thin and really sleek. So they made these keys as shallow as possible. So they're just like, click, click, click, click. So everything's real small and it looks sleek as fuck. That's what it is. It's not for function. If they had a function, they'd be like a little dip to the center of the key. So your fingers would fit in it normally and there would be some travel. Because when you have some travel with your keys, then your fingers get a better sense of what you're doing and you're more precise.

You need better precision. It's more precise whether or not you're touching something. You get better feedback so you can type better. But I show it in words per minute when they show like people who are like really good typists, how many words per minute they can do with a really good keyboard versus a flat shallow keyboard. So even experienced like high level typists are way better with like something that has some travel.

Yeah. Well, I guess you can get used to it. But I don't even mean like a regular keyboard. Like just a laptop keyboard. It doesn't have to be like some crazy. But just have enough extra travel. There's like a number. They think it is like 1.5 millimeters or something like that. And they would like anything between 1.5 and 2 millimeters is good. You get that travel and you get a feeling of it. And it's a lot of feedback. Anything shorter than that is bad.

Yeah, it's easier. It's easier to write like your fingers find the keys better. I'm not a good typeer, but I'm half decent. I don't look at the keys.

I've been doing those, uh, I did those Mavis based bacon teaches typing. I did all those little courses where it's like a game that you play. Okay. Have you seen it? No. It's really cool. like like they make it like a little game like things will go across the screen and you have to type it with your finger and it shows you like a map of where your hands are relationship to the keys and it shows you like where you should move your fingers and then there's something will pop up and you like oh that's an L here's an L and you'll you'll start doing this and as you're doing this you get better and better and then they ask you to start forming sentences and after a while you get like a really good sense of where the keys are

What in the holy fuck?

The technology sucks. This is a Tom Cruise movie. Look at this. Let's get moving this stuff around with this fingers. This is insane.

Look, it's entirely possible that these typeers, if you left them alone with one of those shallow keyboards, eventually they could get used to it, and they would put their numbers of words per minute just back up to where it was before. But for me, it's just an easier experience.

That bitch is listening. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we're in the middle of a hurricane of new technology. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be really, really interesting to see what these, I mean, the things we're in virtual reality goggles typing on his arm. Yeah. What moving things around some virtual desktop? That's like straight out of a futuristic film, right? I'm interested to see where it's going to go. That's minority report, right? I mean, minority report, they didn't have glasses. They just did it on the screen. And we were like, that isn't saying. That isn't saying. But that's like, you know, Windows 13 or something.

Yeah, you needed all those, those psychics.

What in the fuck kind of weird body slavery was that? Yeah. So I kicked strapped into a tub all day. Like, what was that? Is that what they want? How do they not see this coming? They're going to get roped into being. covered in milk and left in that hole. What the fuck was that? That was a weird fucking one.

Like they needed those people to figure out crime, right? Isn't that how they did it?

So the idea that those people are like, I forget, were they special, like, like, X-Men type people?

Yeah, say hey man, I know you're gonna go rob this bank and it's really gonna fuck up your life and everybody else's life So don't go rob in the bank.

What the fuck is barbecue potato flavor?

This is weird. They're going to eliminate shoplifting. This is a weird looking. Everything in plastic like that freaks me out. I feel like we're in the movie.

Well, Andrew Yang who's running for president on this universal basic income idea is one of things he's doing this for is to educate people the fact that all these jobs are going away automation is going to take over many many millions of jobs in this country and we have to be prepared for all these people essentially being You know, uh, technologies remove them from the workforce. They don't, they're not needed anymore. So then they have to figure out, you know, what do I do next? And then universal basic income. He thinks will be the bridge.

The ideas you get a certain amount of money for free to live. Yeah, and I don't know how it works. I'm not an economist. I'm a moron. All right. I am not smart. Yeah. I don't understand the numbers. I don't get if he's right or if he's wrong. I'm not the guy. And I don't have the time. I'm not going to invest in it. But it's a debate. And the debate is if this is coming, what do you do about it? It's not whether or not it's coming. It's pretty, pretty likely that it's coming. Oh, yeah. It's pretty likely that all these people are going to be out of work. Automation is going to take over for driving. It's going to take over a lot of people.

Yeah, I get it, man. The thing is it's happening so fast, people aren't going to be prepared for it. They're going to think that a certain amount of jobs are going to be available, and then a vast number of those are not going to be around anymore. So, his idea is the way you bridge the gap is you give people something that meets their needs, like you need for food and shelter. Just give them enough so that they, everything else they make, they get to keep. It's theirs and let them give them like a boost. And the idea is that doing this would save money long-term in a bunch of different ways. It's a lot of it's theoretical.

That's it always that though. Like, here's the thing. We never know. We don't get an audit of where our taxes go, right? We don't. I have no idea what the fuck to go. That's right. Well, it's distributed throughout. If it went and you knew that it made an impact, it really did make a difference. And like you knew that the people that are taking your time, there's no waste and they're really trying to make the world a better place. Oh, yeah, but they just like a little bit of your money. You'd be like, oh, okay, you're trying to make the world a better place. Like, clearly, these people are making the world a better place. Yeah. If you knew that for sure, and you felt that for sure, you like, I like the attitude behind this is very community oriented. We're going to fix the United States here. It takes some of them.

I did Bill Simmons HBO show. Really nice guy. You know, you know, is that big podcast? I don't know it now. You know, right, Jim? Yeah, and I was we basically did a podcast just with cameras and but there was like 30 people there Yep, they're all these people that are doing this and that and like every other studio job Yeah, and who's stepping up nobody stepped up going hey guys. I'm not really needed here just so you know I'm going to step out there's union gigs too by the way like if you want to have lighting and you want to have cameras you you have to use these guys and this is how I mean even if you don't need them you would have to use it. It's interesting. On one hand, for the longest time, I think... people didn't have as many opportunities. You know, you really, if you wanted to do something, no matter what it would be, whether it's a television show or you wanted to be a host of a talk show or whatever the fuck it was, there's not that many paths. There's only a couple of avenues. There's only a few channels. There's only a few slots ever, right, for those shows. But now it's not the case anymore, man. It's just not the case. There's a fucking million different channels. And if you get roped into that old mentality, like there's still a few of those old vampires that claim to that old system. And they would rather you come do it on television. They'll chop it up every 15 minutes and put a big fact.

They fired to Paolo. And you're out of here. Yeah, they did.

If you had a corporate driving, can't tweet crazy shit. Like he's nicked to Paolo. That's what you get. That's what you hired.

Oh, you know, they did they bought Pandora. Did they? Yeah.

Yeah. I think so. Is that true? I believe it's a partnership.

I heard just there's something like interesting.

They're buying companies for like hundreds of millions of dollars.

It feels like one of those early-day tech boom things. Yeah, everybody's just like going crazy and spending all this money's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, what are you doing? Why spend that much money?

You have people have to pay for some issues.

You guys are disgusting. Like, you guys now we can't. It's over. No one's gonna pay for that. They're gonna be connected with you. You guys get too crazy.

You don't, but that's the beautiful thing. It's like you don't really need that.

What you did that was a great episode guys go check it out We I mean it gets fucking we said ridiculous yeah, but the point is that these companies It's they're showing that they're understanding there's something going on with the podcast in world. They're just throwing a lot of money out of course I mean, look, if they're buying really good companies, they're making really good podcasts, I'm happy. I love podcasts, so I'm listening to them. I hope they do well, but it's just shocking. And obviously, I'm not a business person, so maybe there's some very much a business person to it. Maybe there's some sort of a grand plan, maybe there's like some sort of a podcast battle going on. between like Apple and Spotify and streaming service.

Which is strange because it type shit.

I wonder what they're going to try to do. Spotify doesn't have to hide anything behind a paywall, but there are some companies that are trying to do something behind a paywall, and they're paying for a bunch of different podcasts, and they're going to launch it like a network. I mean, Kumi does that a little bit with compound media. Yeah.

Yeah, the free ones up occasionally. He's a really brilliant guy. He's a fun dude too.

When they were all on the gather, those are some of the best episodes ever. You know, Patrice, Norton, and Anthony, you're just going crazy about things? Yeah. Fuck. Great show man. Yeah. Deep that open Anthony taught me how to do a podcast in a lot of ways. I've heard you say that because he was like a hang. Yeah. I was like, Oh, it doesn't have to be that structured or someone's got like a list of questions and they're rattling off like that's not fun. Yeah. Like a hang is fun.

oh my god they're so good it also enforce the camaraderie between comedians and like that kind of a form we'd all get together and see like we'd meet a bunch of different comics at the show to meet guys from other like you might be sitting in with some comic from philly right you know you get to know people that well that they did that for sure that like that that that that definitely like it enforced it a little bit you know

Well, really, it's the, this is, it's not just the birth of podcasting because of that. It's, for a couple of reasons, Obi and Anthony, in my opinion, are like the birth of podcasting. One of them was Anthony built his own studio in his basement where he would do karaoke, holding a machine gun. fucking crazy.

He thinks he's doing it for, he's funny.

What is happening?

He's not a dumb guy. He's not a smart guy. He's just crazy. He's fun You know, let me look it's not perfect no one is

You know, I mean some of it's good, but some of it's just not. You could be friends with people that you don't agree. I mean Nick to Apollo disagree with like 75% of shit. I love the guy. I always love hanging out with him. I've known him forever. I've never never like never do I say, God's Nick again. I love it when he gets mad about shit. Damn, well, you don't know what fucking Obama did.

Oh, that's funny.

Yeah, he was a monster. And he also, he had points really good psychological insight. He knew what made people tick. He knew what made people say stupid shit. He knew what made people stumble. He's a, he was a master at a understanding, like how to get off controversial ideas. Yeah, you know, he was and but his his contribution for a lot of us was a he had an extra level of I don't give a fuck, you know, like you see Don roasts, he you know, he'd roast and he was like, I don't even know why I'm up here.

Well, it was just that he's, you know, he would, he just had this don't give a fuck style. Yeah. And we all, like, we all, I think I'm speaking for myself. I appreciate I don't give a fuck style more than any other style of comedy. For me, my favorite shit was like, First of all, Joey Diaz, but then when you go back to the greats, like Kinnison and Hicks, and this guy didn't give a fuck. They went off, and it was the most fun to watch. As a person who was an audience member, for me was the most fun to watch.

So we wrote how long goes this.

It's probably one of the all-time greatest names of anything Right? You stop a thing about like bands or television, Legion of Skanks.

But it's what we're talking about earlier. Look, if you like punk rock, you should be able to listen to punk rock. But if you like the kind of comedy that some people like aggressive, like outlandish comedy, you're like, if that's what you like, then you should be able to enjoy it. You're not. It's up to you. It's like, you don't have to like it. You don't have to listen. You don't have to watch. It's not that it makes you immune from criticism if people don't like it. But, you know, It's everybody's got different taste.

Well, I can't say it. Shit. I'll put it on a special date. I'm sure he is. I'll tell you about it afterwards.

Any moons at that little place. Yeah. How many works? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jim Bow's joint. Yep. Um, great little spot, man.

How dare you? How dare you try to pass out off to America? But the, um, I can't do the bit, but the bits excellent remind me and I'll tell you it off because it's one of those premises like once you say the premise. It ruins it.

Yeah, you just said that, but I mean, how many rape jokes like overall do you have?

No, bits.

It's a content tag it to one person talking. Yeah. You know, it's a scene. You're watching people act out of scene. You're right. There's something very personal about one person talking. That's why this is, I mean, this is how some people would look at it. Like you should talk about things that you really care about while you're doing that because you only have a certain amount of time to do it. You know, and sometimes Sometimes you have a bit that's just not worth it. The way people react to it, just like, even though you have a point, it's like, even working this bit out, people are getting so upset. It's almost not worth it.

So it's obviously I was seeing Diaz recently. Maybe that's the same background logic.

Well, there's always going to be a bunch of words like that. What's really interesting is what does happen when you stop people from saying it? Because it's kind of counterintuitive. Because those words become these forbidden words. They have so much more power. If you don't say, and I don't just, I just don't think you ever get to tell people that you can't say certain words they used to be able to say all the time. You know, I mean, the idea behind those words is still the same. Like if you say to someone, you shouldn't say, retarded anymore. Even though that used to be like a term that they would use for things being slower, like their growth being slower, their growth was retarded. But now if you even use as a technical term, like in the growth was retarded, people will get upset at you. Yeah. Don't use that anymore. Now that's a forbidden sound. Even if it doesn't mean what they think it means. We're talking about a person with Down syndrome. They don't like hearing the R word.

Well, it's a, it's a byproduct of speech being a shitty way to really clearly convey intent. And that's why when someone is good at speaking their mind, we kind of get, we get a real sense of, we enjoy it. Someone's good at speaking their mind. But if someone sucks at speaking their mind, you know, if they're, if they're clunky at it, then it's not enjoyable.

Well, I think you stopped doing stand up for a long time because that too, right? Yeah, I think he did stand up while he was doing that show. I might be wrong, but if he did do it, maybe he did like a and a bridge. Yeah, you know, PG 13 version or something. Yeah, you know, if I don't know, man, is it worth it? You know, is it worth it, censoring? I mean, I think one day, it seems like the more time goes on, the more words they're sneaking into the network television, you hear like shit. And every now and then, I think you're allowed to say shit and asshole on a network show now. Yeah. There was like a big episode once on something.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can call someone a pussy, I think, even, too, which is weird. You know, that one's on the way out. Yeah, that's okay.

It's not how crazy women are. It's how crazy some women are. It's like, like, some men are fucking crazy too. You're just dealing with a giant number of people. But if people find a little thing where they can pick on it and go after it like that, yeah.

Well, some people just look for it, man. Right?

Well, I think a lot of them do care. But they're just expressing it on Twitter or on Facebook or whatever they're doing. I think a lot of them do care.

It's back in the day you had to enjoy the conflict. Enjoy it.

They do, they want that, but they also, it's addictive. The conflict is addictive. It's like you're almost like you're playing a game. You know, you're saying something shitty to them and there's they say something back to you shitty and then they insult you and you insult them and you post a Google article that refutes their Google article But it's conflict, you know, and some look you can get you can serum dipitously. Is that the right word? Yeah, seren dipitously serdebitously You could stumble across some brilliant piece of something on Twitter and you definitely can learn something and you definitely get some information. You can do it over facts happens all the time. You can also get sucked into some abortion debate that eats your life for another seven days. Yeah. You start trying to figure out who's right or who's wrong and what what position to take abortion is one of the most human subjects in that humans are so we're so weird in so many ways we're so unusual and irregular and we don't We're inconsistent in a lot of the ways we look at things, but the abortion one is a crazy one. You're literally talking about stopping a human life while it's inside of a person. And then you're talking about whether or not you have the decision to tell someone that they can stop a life inside of their body. And everybody's like, that's not what it is. That's not. People try to redefine it in some strange way. It's a woman's choice. It is. It is a woman's choice. But what is it a woman's choice to do? Yeah, to decide whether or not a life stays in her body and becomes a person or not and when do you get to decide when a person this is not a simple clean thing it's a simple clean thing in my terms in my mind is in terms of what I'm able to tell anybody what to do yeah and I wouldn't want to but if you just look as a human if someone is having an abortion and the baby is I healthy baby that's pretty close to being born and like when is it okay? I think every most people think it's okay with there's like two cells, right? There's only two cells or four cells or and they start dividing and but at one point in time there's a line where you and it's right inside of the woman's body

So it's like what's crazy in terms of if you talk about a late term abortion? Well, that's just how nice. Yeah, how late is this? Like what are we saying? I mean, and this is a terrifying thing for people, this idea that We can make these decisions and rationalize them and decide for a person whether or not they should have to raise a child or whether it can stop it because it hadn't seen area.

I argue, but they just stuff attached to it. You know, people don't want anybody to enforce their own religious beliefs as what abortion is. You know, and especially when you're dealing with something that's like, just a week, two weeks, whatever it is when they, like, people think of it as just a cluster of cells, like, why is that so bad to stop this in its tracks?

I think we need to decide. First of all, men can't get pregnant. Men can get pregnant. I used to have a joke about it. You'd be able to get an abortion on your phone. Literally, it'd be an app. I used to have this bit about it, because it's true. If men were like, well, they had a cold. Pull out your phone, go fuck this kid.

It's not the only one with that. Yeah, it's not that we should be able to tell a woman whether or not she can or she can't do it. It's just looking at it for what it actually is. I don't think we have any right to tell a woman what she can or can't do, but looking at it for what it is. I mean, it is not a clean thing. It's a strange thing. And it's why I say it's one of the most human things. Because it's, it's what either animals don't have that choice.

Yeah, I've seen that that animals do that. I had a hamster that did that one. She ate her babies and we were like, what the fuck? We looked at her. I guess she's pro-choice. This hamster. No, that's not pro-choice, right? Do you have a choice to eat their babies? Um, she had carved a hole out of this baby's head and she was chewing on it. We looked in. I never thought of that hamster the same way again. So that is our pretty rat that dirty little thing killed his babies. Yeah. What in the hell? They get some sort of a disease apparently and if they get that disease, they'll often just kill their babies.

That's the right choice. Dude, it was rough. We were little too. We were like six, seven.

Yeah, it's like wet tail. I think it was the disease. I think that's what it was called. Yeah, I don't remember where we got her pet store, so I'm shit.

The most fucked up ones bears because bears they'll go into dens looking for babies. The other baby is further animal.

Yeah, but baby bears like bears eat bears. Oh bears eat bears. Yeah. Candles. The little cubs. I'll eat the shit out of it.

They have the video from getting eaten. No, no, no, no. Grizzly man is just disappears. A gay guy that moves to Alaska to to save the bears and one of them eats him and his girlfriend. It is a crazy film. Yeah. It's a Werner Herzog documentary. It's unintentional comedy. I mean, I think the way it's edited, he had it, no. There's a certain point in time where it's like obvious comedic timing where he edited it. It seemed like a lot of it was tongue and cheek, but it's about a really crazy guy. Timothy Treadwell, who was lived with the bears for like hundreds and hundreds of days. Yeah. And had all this video footage of him like really close to big giant, grizzly bears.

Eventually, I got to run into a bear that's like, yeah, you know what? Delete the fuck out of you, dude. Yeah, it's a great documentary.

I am bears eat their cubs.

Because they will eat you guts first. You know, you'll still be alive. They'll be tearing your guts apart.

They're so big. I've got a grizzly. A grizzly bit. We don't even understand how big that is. We can 900 pound super dog. You know, not imagine a 900 pound dog that wants to kill you. That's better.

Have you had deal with any of that shit? No. I was run with a knife though. Just in case.

Yeah, Brian Kallen and Brendan Shaw were shit all over that guy.

They called it like Renella was saying it was 85 pounds and I was saying I heard it was 85 pounds and then Jamie Google that and he found 35 pounds. I was like, whoa, that's not as impressive. Yeah.

Isn't it crazy that a baby cat would think that it could kill a grown person? Imagine being something that cocky like you with your face running up to like a giraffe and go, oh, I got this thing. I'm just gonna jump on a giraffe. I can kill a giraffe. I don't think so. I don't think you could. You don't think so? Oh, God, this is crazy. This bear's just mulling this guy. Did it kill him?

Jesus Christ.

It's tearing him apart. Okay, stop Jamie. Stop this. Did the guy die? I must have. Yeah, that doesn't look like it's gonna end well. He left. Wow. Oh my god. Bears probably never killed anything before. Probably just been eaten meat that they gave it to him. He's probably what do I do with you?

Yeah. He's got a story. Now we'll go on tour.

It's a bad ass. Like it's a plastic stuff story.

Sure. Yeah. They'll be, yeah. If the a bear attack happens, it gets prepared. It's not going to freeze in his tracks.

It would be another 45 minutes. The machine versus the bear. Yeah. The machine versus the bear. I can see it now. He might have to write some to bear. Do we have to wrap this up? It's a three gram. That was fun. So tell people one more time where they can get you special.

And you are, is it Gomez comedy on Instagram?

My brother. Thank you. Thanks. Bye, everybody.

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