Transcript for #1560 - Mike Baker
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00:40 - 01:04
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01:04 - 01:12
Yeah, I was just keeping it from there. It started off with what type of animal was it at walrus, walrus? Yeah, walrus.
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01:12 - 01:20
Same size as that. No, no, this one was not as well endowed. But it's shinier than one that I've got. Oh, it's made me older.
SPEAKER_00
01:20 - 01:42
More polished. So here we are Mike Baker. It is Friday. The elections were Tuesday. We still don't know who the new president is. Which I guess I was having a conversation, I forget who told us to me, but the Al Gore Bush election took 45 days to resolve. Yeah. I forgot that it was that long.
SPEAKER_01
01:42 - 02:26
Remember they didn't get the, they didn't actually concede, I think, or whatever you want to call it. get sort of the final count until 12 or 13 December. So Al Gore is lawyers, the DNC, they carried, you know, that in 2000, they carried that process out. And they were entitled to, just like, you know, at the current time, if the current president of Trump wants to pursue remedies for what they perceive to be irregularities, then that by law, you're entitled to do that. Now you You know, you don't want to get in the game and make it spurious accusations and just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. So it has to be based in something. But this is not unprecedented. And I think people need to keep that in mind.
SPEAKER_00
02:26 - 02:49
I feel like that this part of me that feels like there's some fuckery of foot for sure. But there's also part of me that thinks that, and this is going to sound ridiculous. But maybe for the psyche of the country, It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Biden won.
SPEAKER_01
02:49 - 05:55
Yeah, no, I see what you're going with it. I don't, uh, I see what I'm looking for. I don't disagree as long as that fuckery is properly investigated, right? And so, and I think it's, it's, it's pretty sweet, you know, I mean, look, you gotta be consistent, right? With your fuckery? With your fuckery, right? If you've spent the past four years, denying the results of the 2016 election or chasing the Russian collusion bullshit or if you were in the media and you've been you just throw in that crap around about the Russian collusion and happily doing it right for the past four years then you really don't have the moral high ground now to say that the other side can't you know invest a gay can't cry foul can't say they've got concerns and that we should just all as Nancy Pelosi says we just have to unify now I mean, I love them. Yeah, she just came out today and it's like, oh, the good thing is we just need to unify, you know, under who? Yeah, well, under you, under the president-elect, to see referred to them or soon to be Joe Biden. But I see what you're saying. Look, I'm far more concerned because I like a divided government, right? I wouldn't want to see one party regardless of which party it is, have control of everything. I always think that's when shit happens or, or, you know, it just, things go wrong. Right. So I'm, I'd be fine. Right. The Republic's going to survive just fine. If, for instance, the Senate remains in control of the Republicans, the House, you know, it's going to be tighter now. Look, I mean the House, you know, the Pelosi lost. I, you know, conservatively, you know, right now they're saying five seats, but there's ten other seats leaning towards the Republicans in a heavy way. So she could have a, you know, a 15 seat turnaround, 16 seat turnaround. It's going to be a very thin majority that she's going to have. But that's fine. So they've got the house, the GOPS, the Senate, Biden, Harris, you know, they win if they win. OK, we're going to be just fine. My concern is the Senate. If that tips over and the deciding vote is cast by Kamala Harris, because it's 50, 50, then we got a problem. And I think the most fascinating thing about all of this, which is getting lost in the wash because naturally we're all distracted with what's going on between Trump and Biden right now, is those two Senate races in Georgia, right? It's 48, 48 likely we're getting a last in North Carolina wrapped up for the Republican side. They're going to end up at 50. You got two seats left, right? And those are both in Georgia. Those are both going to be runoff, basically, in January sometime. Because unless a one of them hits the 50% threshold, if what's his name per do gets the 50% plus one vote. Okay, then now it's 51 to the Republicans and they have control of the Senate still. Otherwise, I think we got problems if the Dems end up with the White House, the Senate and Congress. I'm just never comfortable with one party rule.
SPEAKER_00
05:55 - 05:56
No, that sounds terrible.
SPEAKER_01
05:58 - 05:59
Like, God, it does.
SPEAKER_00
05:59 - 06:08
Well, it's just I've never paid attention to Speaker of the House until it till was Nancy Pelosi.
SPEAKER_01
06:08 - 06:11
And it seems like it's been Nancy Pelosi for a hundred and twelve years.
SPEAKER_00
06:11 - 06:19
Well, wasn't, wasn't, was it the Speaker of the House that was Dennis Haster? Is that what the guy that we were talking about the other day that got arrested for molesting kids?
SPEAKER_01
06:20 - 06:26
Oh, kid Tetria. Wasn't he the speaker of the house? We see speaker of the house. I guess he was. Yeah, for a period of time.
SPEAKER_00
06:26 - 06:45
Or was it or minority later? Um, that's crazy. But that guy got to that position and then wound up getting 15 months. Mm-hmm. Here it is. I said I'm 99 in 2007. So, okay, quite a while. Eight fucking years. Long as serving were public speaker of the house in history. Wow. And he was a kid fucker.
SPEAKER_01
06:45 - 06:49
And what was his sentence? His sentence was only 15 months. How's that work?
SPEAKER_00
06:49 - 07:03
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. How does that work? Yeah. He knows where the bodies are buried. Yeah. That's how that works. Yeah. They're like, look, 15 months. It'll be gone before you know it. My goodness. It'll be gone before you know it. My goodness. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it.
SPEAKER_01
07:03 - 07:52
It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It'll be gone before you know it. It's the irony, right? It's a lack of self-awareness on both sides that I always find fascinating. My favorite tweet so far since Tuesday, since the election day, was after I think it was came out on Wednesday. Some progressive tweeted, I think I'm almost getting it word for word. Republicans are such sore fucking losers. And I read it. And I thought, well, this has got to be like a parody, right? They got to be kidding around. And so then you have to dig in there and investigate and read everything else they've been reading or writing. And you're looking to realize, no, it's their serious. And then you read the thread after that. And all the responses like, oh, that's so true that fuckers, they can't take a loss. And you're thinking, there is no fucking self-awareness.
SPEAKER_00
07:52 - 08:49
But that's it. It's, I have no respect for people that mass generalized entire political parties like that. It's so stupid. Republicans are such this. Come on, just stop. I know what you do. You're just spitting out nonsense. It's one thing if you want to say that. I guess that it is what you're saying on Twitter though. The problem is it's written down, right? So you take it more seriously. But if you just have a coffee with your friend and you're like Republicans, it's fucking sore losers. And like, yeah, right? They would say, they are, right? But when you're saying it to the whole world, it's like you're allowing the whole world to listen in on a conversation you're having at Starbucks. You got to be a little bit better at being self aware and also recognizing that you spent if you're a hardcore Democrat you spent the last four years saying Russia got Trump into power and even after the evidence comes out that that's not true you're you're in denial of that and I've never taken it back
SPEAKER_01
08:49 - 08:58
And you've got, you've got different groups, right? I mean, this is, again, you're right. This is on both sides. This is right. This is left. This does it. It's always, you know, to say, on that card, coffee went all over the place.
SPEAKER_00
08:58 - 09:05
Yeah, but I caught it. You did? No, I did it. Well, over a little bit. I caught it mid spill. Just leave some towels in here, buddy.
SPEAKER_01
09:05 - 09:14
I always feel just to leave some towels and it's a lotion in here. Yeah, I mean, it was Zoom call. How was that?
SPEAKER_00
09:14 - 09:15
Not that crazy? Wow.
SPEAKER_01
09:16 - 09:17
Who thinks about doing that?
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09:17 - 09:33
It's not just one person that's been busted do that either. That's quite a few. You know what this shows you really how many men are addicted to pornography? That's what it shows you. How many men are addicted to masturbation and pornography? So much so that while they're supposed to be working during the day, they can't help themselves.
SPEAKER_01
09:33 - 09:47
Yeah. And you would think though. Yeah, I mean, it's, that's a very good point. It's just, I'm just, you're stunned by the idea that perhaps during a business Zoom call, you could set that aside for, for that three minutes or so.
SPEAKER_00
09:47 - 09:52
I mean, I wonder if they're still listening to the conversation and how does it not break your concentration?
SPEAKER_01
09:52 - 10:06
There it is, you know, some people find different things interesting. So we're gonna run through those second quarter numbers. Oh God. I got the second quarter. That logistical supply chain.
SPEAKER_00
10:06 - 10:21
What is the status right now? It's like Pennsylvania. So here we are first of all. It's Friday. Okay. The election was on Tuesday. We're supposed to know what the president is. How the fuck doesn't the last good know? I just read that a last going has 50% reported.
SPEAKER_01
10:22 - 10:41
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's a big space. It's a big space. You got it. It's a lot of distance to for those, you know, sled dog teams to go with the ballets. Is that what it is? Well, no, I can't imagine that's what it is, right? Someone up there is lazy. I mean, it's, but it is, it is funny because, okay, look, if one side's winning two to one.
SPEAKER_00
10:43 - 10:44
But there's 50% left.
SPEAKER_01
10:44 - 10:54
Yeah, you can't call it. No, it's dead dead. It's okay. That's true. But yeah, so where we are is what the hell. It's Friday.
SPEAKER_00
10:54 - 11:03
And it looks like Pennsylvania is leaning towards Biden. George is leaning towards Biden. It's basically over for Trump.
SPEAKER_01
11:03 - 14:41
I mean, if you look at it, you don't see a lot of avenues for success on this one. I mean, look, Pennsylvania, they're still saying, rightly so. It's too close to call. They've got 8,000 somewhat military absentee ballots still to count. The assumption would be just like they just wrong. Those would be for Trump just like they assume a lot of the mail-in ballots in the Philadelphia area or Allegheny or it will be for Biden. But they have to go through that process. Now the Pennsylvania is an interesting one. Again, there's a lot of people that are getting very pissy about Trump's attitude towards this whole thing. And could he be more eloquent? Could he just shut the puck up and let the system work, right? Let his legal teams do what they're supposed to do and what they're entitled to do. And just say, you know, we just have to work through the process. Well, yeah, he could of course he could, but he's not going to. But pencil vein is interesting because the the the problem up there. And maybe there's no fucking fraud. It's like an investigation, right? When you do an investigation, you have to base it on right from the very beginning. You have to base it on facts on something concrete. If you don't, you're building an entire investigation potentially on very shaky ground, the whole thing comes tumble and down and it's a house shit. So, you know, it's like an operation and tell operation. Everybody remembers from maybe not the WMD fiasco, you know, from Iraq. the idea that, oh my god, we got to get in there because they got WNT. Well, a lot of that was based on one source reporting, right? Which got into the reporting chain and then got re-invented in another report and then got self corroborated, another reporting. And before you know it, you're confirming all the same information from originally that one source, right? Very shaky. So you're not building an invasion of a country on solid information. So with Pennsylvania, if people are looking at that and going, oh, this is all sorts of shit going on, and it's just fraud. Well, you got to step back and get to say, okay, where are the problems? Now, there's a handful of issues that I think are legitimate in Pennsylvania, one of them being This idea that the state Supreme Court circumvented what the legislative branch in Pennsylvania said about ballots and when you can count the ballots up until what time the postmarking on the ballots. And so that's a legitimate issue that probably could end up in a higher court. is did the State Supreme Court in Pennsylvania have that right according to the Constitution to just because the State House is in each state set the laws about this is very thing and you got a problem to Pennsylvania because the State House is run by Republicans. Now, this bullshit about how long it's taking to count the votes could have been sorted out if a year ago, or not even that, if six months ago, when we knew this pandemic was a problem, when we knew we were going to get unprecedented levels of male and votes. If the Republican State House had said, OK, here's when we can start counting those mail-in votes. As soon as we start receiving them, how about that? So they could have been well ahead. You know, so it's both both sides of fucked this up, right? It's not one side of the other both sides. Once again, both, you know, it's You know, the truth is always, you know, we talked about this before, it's always somewhere in the center, and that's true here. But anyway, Pennsylvania, close to call, you know, this idea that they're preventing observers from coming in or standing close enough, because they allowed them in, but then, you know, were they able to stand close enough to observe anything of any value? Um, that should never be in question. All right.
SPEAKER_00
14:41 - 14:49
So they let them in. Is this all been corroborated? This is proven. They let them in, but they wouldn't let them actually observe what they were doing.
SPEAKER_01
14:49 - 18:08
There was delays in some districts, right? Some e because counties run these elections and and so some counties, you know, do it. buy the book and others apparently have decided they can do things a little bit differently. So some they were not able to get in as far as access goes as you know once the voting started some they weren't able to go in for the pre-vote counting or the pre-voting day counting. of these ballots and others they were able to go in and they were kept maybe 25 feet back instead of what that's clearly was like a six feet distance that had been I think I'm not don't quote me on this but maybe a responsibly Decided that you could reach six feet away because of social distancing 25 feet away that seems insane Exactly. Some places had them watching on monitors, which, again, is useless. But so, and those, the problem there is that should never happen. You should be able to always agree both sides that you need campaign observers in there. And they have that right to observe the counting of these things. And it all comes down to the same issue, whether it's that or whether it's, you know, accounting ballots because, you know, or, or discarding ballots because the person's died previous to the election, It all comes down to the perception of fraud. There may not be anything going on in this election in terms of fraud, fraud and elective. When all is said and done, all the investigations are done. But the damage is already done because people perceive it as possible. A lot of people perceive it as likely or as happening. And if you don't have a transparent system set up, that is easy to see. You've got to be able to look at it and not be told by politicians and not be told by, you know, election officials over the media, that it's a good credible system. The voter has to be able to look at the process and say, yeah, that's fair and transparent. It's like cover for action. If I'm doing surveillance on some target, and I'm out in the middle of some whether it's a shit hole or whether it's urban center in a developed country, I have to have cover for action. I have to have a reason that is plainly obvious by passerby's or by local authorities or police that patrol the area. Oh, I get that's why he's there. We did not one time where It was overseas. We were waiting for a target to show up, and it was a port. A lot of people coming and going tourists, workers, commercial workers, having to go from this busy port. And, you know, what you didn't have is you didn't have a lot of people just hanging out, right? There weren't a lot of opportunities just hanging out. So you had to have a reason, right? So what do you do? You set somebody down there with a couple of pieces of luggage and a baby stroller and a baby. Don't ask me where to get the baby from. And you just stole a baby, you know. Hey, it's for the good of the country. And we requisitioned it. We got it. We have a baby requisitioned department down in the basement of the agency. Now we don't. No, no, it's my own baby actually. It's my daughter when she was a little baby.
SPEAKER_00
18:08 - 18:14
He's your own daughter during a covert operation. Why is that wrong? I don't think so. No, I'm just curious.
SPEAKER_01
18:14 - 20:15
Yeah. And so it worked like a charm because they could sit there for hours, right? Waiting theoretically for a boat, but obviously pulling surveillance from an observation post. And people walking by would like, yeah, there's a, there's some lady with a baby, you know, suitcases to cover for action. They did a, they, they, they whacked it in industrialist in Germany one time. Where the, the hit team. It was very elaborate, but they did what they always do. They surveil. They figure out the guys routes. And as is usual, your choke points, that's what they're looking for. You're getting a vehicle in your drive. You're going to have choke points. Usually it's at the place of work, or it's at your home. But it may be somewhere in between, maybe there's an avenue that's always blocked up, maybe there's a turn that they have to come to a complete stop. You're looking for that choke point where you can lay out the attack where you control the environment. There was a place in the Philippines and still exists. We used to call it ambush alley, because you'd start at one end, you'd go to the other, and it was a cut-through. They weren't that very many of them, and sometimes it was the only one to get from one part of the city to another. And once you got in there, you did just hit the gas because you were a host. If you got caught up in there and there was an insurgency going on. And so, you know, roadblocks and local hit teams, they call them Sparrow units, we're always a concern. And so that was a choke point, ambush alley was a choke point. Anyway, long story short, they whack this industrialist, but they hit team after they'd done their surveillance and they decided where that point was for the attack. They showed up one day in construction gear and construction uniforms and started digging a trench. As a construction team, right? You can look that. You would drive by and go, oh, they're building something. They're digging a trench, right? It's cover for action. And so it's the, I don't know how I'm making this analogy, but it's the same with the election. Voters got to be able to look at it and go, it's transparent. I see why it's transparent. I can move on.
SPEAKER_00
20:15 - 20:31
Talking about fuckery. Yeah. You're talking about them. They did a bad job of hiding corruption. That's what you're saying. You say, come out for action. It's deceptive. What you're describing is deceptive.
SPEAKER_01
20:31 - 20:53
Well, what I'm saying is they the system has to be clearly transparent and honest and credible. by just from the voter's perspective. You can't do shit like adjust the rules about just because we say, oh, pandemic, now we've got to change the rules. And, you know, these states are going to change them. These states won't in this state as well.
SPEAKER_00
20:53 - 20:56
How did you make the connection from that to cover for action?
SPEAKER_01
20:56 - 21:27
Um, you know, because, oh, I, I know. Because you think I can remember it. Yeah. Yeah, cover for action is because I know this is, this is, yeah, try being in my house and my house. Try being part of my family and following me at the dinner table. Um, it's because with cover of action, just like with looking at the voting and saying, okay, I see why it's transparent. I see cover action. You got to look and go, okay, I get it. That's what they're there for when you move on. You don't, you don't think about it. You don't have to be told. You know, you don't have to stop and go, excuse me, what are you doing here? Right. It's just evident on the face of it.
SPEAKER_00
21:27 - 21:50
How are they not universal voting rules for each state that are federal? How is it that different states are allowed to come up with their own rules? Like I was reading something about Georgia. They were allowing people who had made mistakes on their ballots to redo their ballots. And they called them curing the ballots.
SPEAKER_01
21:50 - 22:17
Yeah. Yeah. You've got that. You've also got- What is that? You've got the ability to change your vote, too, in some places. What? Yeah. You can change your vote up until the deadline of the election day. There are some places where you can go in, you have to request it, and then you can change your vote. Which if you think about it, it is not bad, because if on election day you wake up and you find out that the candidate you voted for is committed murder, then you think, okay, I like to change my vote.
SPEAKER_00
22:17 - 22:49
Well, I think a lot of people did want to actually change their vote after the second Biden debate. That was a big Google search. There was a thing that they were talking about. The Google searches for how to change your vote went up some astounding number because you just had a real terrible debate. No one has done worse on the campaign trail and won. That's one thing. And more people vote in this election than have ever voted. So it's like the early 1900s or something.
SPEAKER_01
22:49 - 23:16
I don't think maybe I'm wrong on this, but I think, you know, we should fact check this. But I don't think she held a press conference during the entire campaign. I don't think she had one single press conference. She had appearances, right? But I don't think she actually held a press conference during the entire campaign. That's a standing, right? But yeah, I agree. We're in this position that we're in right now in a variety of ways and because of the pandemic.
SPEAKER_00
23:16 - 23:50
For sure. Yeah. And also because the people that hate Trump really hate him. I don't remember. I remember people not liking George Bush. Maybe even hating George Bush, W. And even HW. But not like this. This is a different level of here, but also it's a different level of love. They love him in a way that I don't ever remember seeing, I don't remember seeing like, yeah, this fucking lines of cars that are miles long, honking with signs for any other candidate other than Trump.
SPEAKER_01
23:50 - 23:57
Now, well, people used to go crazy over a milled filmware. I remember that. That was, who was that? Oh, they loved the filmware.
SPEAKER_00
23:57 - 24:28
No, I don't joke. I am joking. That's a terrible joke. I just went with it. I may be Rossboro. People were really in the parade. Oh, yeah. But there's those the same people that are now into Q and on. It's like, yeah. Somebody sent me a video. I went down to a Q and on rabbit hole last night of how Trump is set up all the, the dams and this is a sting operation and that there's, uh, yeah, I forget what they were saying that this is all all of the ballots have been blocked chained and yeah, you heard this, Jamie? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03
24:29 - 24:33
Dig this up last night. I've been going around for two years apparently and like pop back up this week.
SPEAKER_00
24:33 - 25:26
But the conversation that these two guys were having about it was like people that are really in the comic books talking about their favorite characters. It's it's it's so weird because it's it's clearly and this is not to disparage people that think there's something illegitimate about this election. This is not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about people that are in a certain conspiracy series in Q and on is one of them. where it becomes a thing they're into. Whether it's real or not, it's a thing they're into. It's like you're in a club. Yes, yes. And they're all in on this thing. And they're constantly tuning into this thing to find out what the latest is. It's almost like a serial show that you're reading about on message boards. You know, it's like it's it's like he's making these little drops of information of what's going to happen and then some people are experts on these drops.
SPEAKER_01
25:26 - 28:09
It's like a Ponzi scheme you bring your friends in and then you're you're a little bit higher up the chain and Q and on and so you know a little bit more and you've got more friends within it but it is it's it's it's a string it is it is strange and I mean it looked it's it's it's this is surfaced a lot of weird behavior and groups over the past four years and and look at the I mean you've got all these various elements you've got the the resistance you've got the never trumpers you got this this group the the Lincoln project right and those guys If anyone scored big out of this whole, you know, four-year run and, you know, particularly this past year, it's got to be those guys, right? I'd love to see Lincoln Project. Well, there are some guys that claim to be, you know, Republicans conservatives and, oh my God, we're horrified at the state of the Republican Party and so, you know, we've set our line in the sand and never trumpers basically. And so, we're going to raise a lot of money and we're going to fight this thing and we're going to make sure that we fight for all the The Democratic candidates and we're going to get Trump out of there. And yeah, of course, we're conservatives and Republicans. And we're going to do this. Because hey, look, they didn't get jobs in the administration, right? And so I have a feeling they part of this started when they didn't get enough hugs, right? And they didn't get what they wanted out of this. Part of it maybe is there actually legitimately upset with the administration over certain things, but I can't help but think that they just raised a lot of money. I'd love to see how you do with charities. You look and see what their spend is, how much of it goes to administration for the project, and how much of it actually goes and be as used for things like actual ads. I'd love to see how much money got ended up in the pockets, because I guarantee you, once this is over, Biden wins, they'll somehow morph into something that now makes money by fighting some of the policies that the Biden White House wants to push out there. It just seems, it seems, but there's a lot of groups like that that have come out. A lot of people spouting their self-righteousness over the idea that Trump's a terrible person I don't think it's a great person, right? But we've talked about this for, I don't think you need to actually like your president. You need to like your policies and the operations that we're doing overseas and the things that we do. Would I prefer a kind or a gentler or more eloquent? I don't know, it's all touchy-feely, but I like the policies. Did I dislike Trump enough to vote for the potential policies that are coming down the pike with a Biden White House? and a Senate possibly controlled by the Democrats? No, but, you know, then again, I voted for Kanye, so.
SPEAKER_00
28:09 - 28:30
That's why like figureheads are weird, right? Because a figurehead could be polarizing, they could be someone that people loved no matter what they do, and they could be someone that people hate no matter what they do. And that's where it gets strange where policies and the direction of a government is attached to an individual personality.
SPEAKER_01
28:30 - 29:30
Yeah, and we've definitely seen this more like you said. It's got that, you know, it's a lot of people on the left will say it's got that cultish feel and because he does draw this, the animosity from the left obviously, but yeah, it's a bizarre devotion that you get. And I think it's not necessarily a lot of the folks aren't necessarily devoted to Trump. It's not like it's not that. It's not a Jim Jones thing as much as they're devoted to the idea of waving the flag of standing up for America, which is all good shit, right? But you've got to keep it in perspective, right? And I just think we've lost perspective on a lot of things. You know, you talked to somebody on the left and they'll say, oh my God, it's the death of the Republic. We've been facing for the past four years. It's the toughest time we've ever seen and you think, uh, I've actually settled down. Yeah, and then just go to the right and they're like, oh my God, if they've Biden wins, you know, we're fucked and settled down. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Set it settled down.
SPEAKER_00
29:30 - 29:31
Everybody's settled down. Set it down.
SPEAKER_01
29:32 - 29:35
Get into the center. I definitely want to.
SPEAKER_00
29:35 - 30:15
I like a good left right left right. I like that. I like when the country goes left and the country goes right. I just think gives everybody a chance. Settles everybody down and it also gives everybody a much clearer understanding of the reality of what it means to have someone as a president. How much does it actually affect your day-to-day life? And what really affects your day-to-day life is what we were talking about earlier, the actual policies. Whether Trump's an asshole or not, the real problem with having an asshole for a president is it encourages other assholes to be assholes. And this is the first time it's ever been a president that actually encouraged assholeishness.
SPEAKER_01
30:15 - 30:45
But I mean, he came out yet last night. This press conference, which a lot of people were horrified by and then a lot of people get on the right, kind of cheered. I think it's first sentence out of the gate in the midst of all this sort of concern and chaos in the angst from everybody is was look if you just count the legal votes I I have one easily. OK. All right. You know what? Yeah. It's not necessary. You don't have to do that. You can say, you know, this is still being contested.
SPEAKER_00
30:45 - 30:48
Yeah. We're doing it. You know what? That doesn't happen. Yeah. That doesn't happen.
SPEAKER_01
30:48 - 31:26
We're concerned about some potential irregularities, but don't just start throwing shit at the wall because it demeans the whole process. And that's, that's the only way. And that's where it all falls apart. People start losing that credibility or that belief in the system. And then again, If you've spent four years attacking the credibility system by saying it was the Russians that put him in there, right? And then talking about all this other shit about all he may never leave and you know, he's and they were accusing him of the past couple of years. How bad he's going to try to steal the election, right? And so now when the other sides like, ah, we're kind of concerned about some of the things we're seeing. They're like, oh, for fuck's sake. Don't be, you know, let's can't we just all get along.
SPEAKER_00
31:26 - 31:35
Is anybody accusing the Republicans of voter fraud in the states that Trump won? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
31:35 - 31:38
I, that's good question. I have not seen anything really.
SPEAKER_00
31:38 - 31:39
I haven't seen it either.
SPEAKER_01
31:39 - 31:51
Help them. Yeah. You know, I probably because those states don't matter. I hate to say it that way, but I know. But he's talking about Texas. Well, you're in Texas. No Texas matter. Are you kidding?
SPEAKER_00
31:51 - 31:54
Right. But Texas matter Trump won Texas.
SPEAKER_01
31:54 - 31:59
Is there any talk of, but the expectation was was that he would even though there was this talk about it.
SPEAKER_00
31:59 - 32:04
There's going to be this, you know, I like knowing talking about voter fraud and California for Biden. Right.
SPEAKER_01
32:04 - 32:56
Right. Or, you know, it's, oh my god, he's, you know, there's something he's going on in Mississippi, right? So yeah. That doesn't happen, but I think the polls got it all wrong. The only time the plundits were right, I think, is when they were citing that look, it's going to come down to a handful of important states. And they usually would cite Pennsylvania and Georgia and Florida and Florida, Arizona. So they got that right. Everything else they got wrong again. But again, if whether there is or isn't, if you've got legitimate grievance, if you've got potential evidence, and you look at a place like Nevada, and if you've got Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, if you've got a few thousand ballots that are in question because it appears that either they weren't residents of the state or perhaps they died some time ago.
SPEAKER_00
32:56 - 32:58
That's right, true. Well, it's going on right now.
SPEAKER_01
32:58 - 33:21
That's what they're claiming. That's what they're claiming and they through Republican Party and they filed a suit and they've I got an documentation supposedly to the DOJ about these ballots. But I guess my point is whether it is or isn't if that's that's potentially a legitimate concern. It's not going to turn things. It's not going to change anything. The vote count's not going to be big enough to change Nevada's decision, likely.
SPEAKER_00
33:21 - 33:31
So the numbers of if there is fraud, the numbers are not enough to be relevant to the overall count, which is the issue in most of these places.
SPEAKER_01
33:31 - 34:19
You're not really going to overturn 100,000 votes. No. And it's not going to happen at Philadelphia, if you say, OK, we're going to toss out these 700 ballots, whatever. But I think it is important, again, going back to this idea that you've got a maintained faith in the system by showing people that it's credible. So if there are regularities, just like the dams didn't 2000, and just like in other elections, it's not uncommon at all to have a contested election result in this country, the law accounts for it. And so go after that, explain what you're doing. Be transparent, what you're doing. And then for fuck's sake, learn from it for the next one around, right? Make these changes. And maybe this was an anomaly because of the pandemic and we're never ever going to see this many mail-in ballots again.
SPEAKER_00
34:19 - 34:52
I just find it hilarious whenever I say that people should be able to vote online because you could bank online like now there's too much room for fraud as opposed to what stacks of paper that people can count the fuck are you talking about it seems like you can get a code that is unique to you like a QR code or some biometric code that's based on your FaceTime or your fingerprint if you have an Android phone And it will 100% prove that it's you. And you can fucking vote off your phone. Like that seems pretty easy to me.
SPEAKER_01
34:52 - 36:13
I don't get it. We should be able to come up with a better system. And you're right. You know, the problem with this was again, it wasn't explained well enough. And so you have the perception whether it's existing, whether it's happening or not, you have this perception of fraud. Look, I mean, you've got, and social media just pumps the shit out of this and causes this problem in a major way. You've got these videos now that are floating around Twitter and elsewhere of ballot workers working at polling stations, filling out, filling out ballots. And so they'll just like lock in, they'll take 10 seconds of somebody taking an empty ballot, stamping it, filling it out, and then putting it in the box, then taking another one, stamping it, filling it out. And people will go, oh my God, they're falsifying ballots, they're just creating ballots out of whole cloth. And then that'll blast around. And before you know it, you gotta like, you know, 100,000 people retweeting this bullshit without investigating it, going back to what I said before. You can't just, you can't build your argument on shit. You know, now if that's a problem, find infesticated, but you also have to look at what are the other scenarios. Well, maybe these are all ballots that wouldn't fit through the scanner or that you know, got kicked out. And so now what do they got to do? They got to put them onto a new ballot, run it through or whatever. I mean, that happens, right?
SPEAKER_00
36:13 - 36:48
That's a thing. I understand what you're saying. If someone is right, is the person in front of them will fill out the ballot with them? No. okay so someone fills out a ballot and there's an issue with that ballot then you allow a worker to to make a copy of that ballot under observation under observation by who campaign which I'm not polling that's the thing though like is it a republic if it's if he's filling it out for republicans a democrat over shoulder to make make sure to have one of each of each of us have both parties have the ability to live in for a reason afterwards
SPEAKER_01
36:50 - 37:07
So I guess my point is whether it's that or whether you can't just you can't just assume that the shit that you see it we should how do we not know this right by now the shit that you see on social media you should probably question it and at least do your own research and find out whether it's true before you then kick it back out or talk about it like it's gospel
SPEAKER_00
37:07 - 37:21
Here's what I'm ready to talk about like it's gospel. You don't have no evidence whatsoever because people keep saying it to me over and over again. It was constant of 100,000 votes came in for Biden overnight and there were 100% for Biden. They were for no one else.
SPEAKER_01
37:22 - 37:27
Is that true? I've heard that. I've heard that. I don't know whether it's true or not.
SPEAKER_00
37:27 - 37:32
Sounds like a QAnon video. Yeah, it does. It does. I mean, it's got the blockchain. Don't worry, try to tell the case.
SPEAKER_01
37:32 - 37:48
It would seem surprising. I mean, you got 89% or 90% voter turnout in particular areas. You think that's pretty damn high. But, and again, those are the things that find. Let the system work. Let the legal teams do it because they're citing it.
SPEAKER_00
37:48 - 38:16
Right, but they think it's too late. The issue is, you know, like I was talking to someone who understands these things very well and then describing it to me that when the 2000 election came along with Bush and Gore that Bush had fantastic lawyers like the cream of the crop. And that that is not the case right now with this this scenario where they're dealing with legal fraud or the potential for fraud.
SPEAKER_01
38:16 - 38:20
I don't know. I would say no Joe Biden did not get what it was.
SPEAKER_00
38:20 - 38:30
Yeah, who made this Jamie Snopes. More communist bullshit. It's just from France. Yes, it's Milwaukee news. They're probably communists.
SPEAKER_03
38:30 - 38:30
I'm sure.
SPEAKER_00
38:31 - 38:59
The fucking local Milwaukee. Get out of here. No job. I read that instead of all Milwaukee absentee ballots. But that's not what the claim was. The claim was a bunch came overnight and that they were 100% for Biden. So that could still be true and they could still say that he did not get 100% of all absentee ballots. because that's not what the claim was. So that that that communist newspaper that you just read.
SPEAKER_01
38:59 - 39:08
Don't don't don't hate America. Don't move it yet. Look over there. The Federalists. Yes. This is the headline. Yes. Democrats are trying to steal the election in Michigan and Wisconsin.
SPEAKER_00
39:08 - 39:55
Okay. Read the Federalists because those are good Americans. Yeah. Well, that's what we're supposed to be happening. As of this writing, it appears that the Democratic Party machines in Mexican Wisconsin Pennsylvania trying to steal the election. As reporters and commentators went to bed, early Tuesday morning, all three states were too close to call, but President Trump led former Vice President Joe Biden by Comfortable Marges. far beyond what had been predicted in the polls. None of the networks call these states because enough mail-in ballots remained uncounted that it could swing either way. But Trump's position looked good. But here's what's wrong with that. And this is what Kyle Colensky explained to us that mail-in ballots were overwhelmingly Democrat because Democrats tend to be pusys who are scared to go there in person because they don't want to get coughs. Is that correct? Is that what he said?
SPEAKER_03
39:56 - 40:07
There's also something I was hearing that. I made that a Republican like, uh, no one even cares. They all wanted to push for one day. They wanted to do it all in one day. They didn't want to vote early because like a, uh, presents a pride type thing.
SPEAKER_01
40:07 - 40:22
Well, Trump did, you know, make a big deal about telling his supporters show up on the day, right? I'm a, I'm a vote in person kind of guy. I have, I'm a old school. I like to, I show up. You do that. It's how many did some of those good, some of those good answers. Yeah, Mike Baker has voted, you know, and you get your sticker.
SPEAKER_00
40:22 - 40:27
I was going to put my sticker and take a picture, but I'm like, no. Once Chelsea handler put him on her tits, I'm like, we're done here.
SPEAKER_01
40:27 - 40:29
Yeah, nobody wanted that. Nobody.
SPEAKER_00
40:29 - 40:59
She, she, she, she put him as pasties. It's creative move. It gets people to pay attention. So this, what, I'm sorry, I was joking around about the Federalists, but this, so with where this guy go back to that article, because with this guy's getting wrong, is that Yes, Trump had a lead, but they were counting the in-person votes first, and then they counted the mail-in votes. The mail-in votes were already overwhelmingly slanted towards Democrats.
SPEAKER_01
40:59 - 41:21
Because some of these states, and again, some of them with Republican state houses, you know, that was the regulation or the law that they put in place was at you. can't count those votes early, the mail ends on me. Yeah. You can't vote them early. So yeah, people went I part of the problem was people went to bed on Tuesday night thinking, well, look at this, Trump's gonna. Right. And then it's like going to bed because you think the games all locked up. Exactly. You wake up in the morning.
SPEAKER_00
41:21 - 41:21
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01
41:21 - 41:22
You know, you got you got screwed.
SPEAKER_00
41:23 - 42:29
Like that Super Bowl a few years ago when they won it in the last, yes. So when I left, I left the Super Bowl party. It was like, let's get the fuck out of here. This game's over. Yeah, they won it over time. The thing about all this stuff is that people want the narrative to fit with how they feel it should have gone. so they feel it should have gone to Trump so someone's trying to steal the election right instead of no they're counting mail in ballots later there is a weird thing with like the democrats wanting mail in ballots it's almost like wanting to mail them in is also sort of a political statement in regards to the handling of the pandemic by the Republican president. This is the same people that have like their fucking Twitter profile picture with a mask on. Hey, stop. Yeah, it's just stopped. You don't ask of righteousness. You've got to self you with a mask on fuck you. You know what you're doing. That's a weird political statement. Yeah. I guess I'm not weird. I don't mean it. I say fuck. I'm getting aggressive. I didn't mean it. I'm just being silly. People think I'm serious sometimes.
SPEAKER_01
42:29 - 42:37
That's what we care for. But he said fuck people were mad. He's an anti-mascar.
SPEAKER_00
42:37 - 42:38
Look, anti-mascar is a new thing, I think.
SPEAKER_01
42:39 - 42:50
Yeah, I get to tell you, I think it's a simple thing, put on a mask, but you're right. There are people who wear it proudly, like, their early days of adopting and driving a Prius, right?
SPEAKER_00
42:50 - 43:45
They're doing it. I've seen people do podcasts with a mask on. Fuck you. He just, I do mean it. For podcasts, I do mean that. Especially when they're doing it by themselves. There's no one in the room. You got a mask on. I've seen that. or there's someone in other rooms nowhere near you and you're wearing a mask. It's a political statement. It's a thing you're showing that you are a responsible person. It's a way of flying your flag of virtue. I'm wearing a mask. I'm not one of those, like if you see those people that get in fights at Walmart because they don't want to work, you're infringing on my freedoms. It's always the worst fucking human beings. The people that represent not wearing a mask are never exemplary, like scholarly, brilliant people who are like, well, the reality is about virus particles and the size these particles. It's preposterous. It doesn't make any sense. Also, I've been tested.
SPEAKER_01
43:45 - 43:52
And you have a very strict testing rig. Yeah, you probably, you guys probably tested more frankly than anybody else.
SPEAKER_00
43:52 - 44:31
Dude, I was tested last night, and then I got tested again this morning. So I was tested last night at the Covenant's Mansion. Oh, I'm at the Covenant. Oh, hang out with the Covenant. Covenant's a cool guy. He, like a legitimately nice guy. I really enjoyed his company. I like him a lot. And then I got tested again this morning. I get tested all the time constantly. But that's why we were in no masks and we could talk shit. And when young Jamie fucked off, because he decided to go party, you. He was, he was at a disco. What? He was at a disco, screw him in. He was screaming. He was raving. I think he was at a rave and a roller derby.
SPEAKER_01
44:31 - 44:36
We should actually clarify this because if it was a disco, we need to talk about that more.
SPEAKER_00
44:36 - 44:49
No, we went to a bar and he was out of patio and he got the vid. Oh. And so he, but he was, you know, you were barely sick. You're sick for a day. When you came in, he was really convinced that it was some sort of allergy.
SPEAKER_01
44:49 - 44:51
When did you, so how long did you have before you got tested?
SPEAKER_00
44:52 - 45:17
Well, we tested them. I was off. No, we were off that week. Oh, remember? So it's quite a while. So there was a week where I was elk hunting. So we were we were gone. And Jamie probably got it the weekend I left and didn't feel bad until three or four days later. And then by the time we came in, it was a good seven days, right? Something like that.
SPEAKER_03
45:17 - 45:30
Yeah, I mean, I didn't even feel sick when that day I was like, I'm, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
SPEAKER_00
45:34 - 45:50
Since I never was really close to him, we made him sit in the corner like a dunce. And after we found out that he had the kudis, and we tested them again, he failed the second test. But you did you think about firing him at that point? No, no, fuck. That's it, you're done. No way. I could have caught it, too.
SPEAKER_01
45:50 - 46:01
I was in DC, we're filming for Discovery Series called What on Earth, right? And these guys, the film crew for this series is usually from England.
SPEAKER_00
46:02 - 46:04
They're the quarantine people. Oh my god. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
46:04 - 46:06
Let's go through the protocols, right?
SPEAKER_00
46:06 - 46:30
Yeah. I mean, listen, I believe I understand how they would do that for a film or production, but for a podcast, like it goes on all year. There's no way I can tell people what to do with their life, especially when I go to restaurants and stuff and I wear a mask. I joke around about masks. People drove a joke. He's an airtight mask or I wear a mask every fucking day and wear it all the time. But I think I do think there's something silly about it.
SPEAKER_01
46:30 - 46:37
Yeah. Well, again, it makes, look, it's like a lot of things in life, right? It makes you feel like you're doing something. It makes you feel good.
SPEAKER_00
46:37 - 46:40
It makes other people feel comfortable. That's why I wear it. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01
46:40 - 46:50
I'm the same way. I think it's a little thing. If other people happy, do I think it's necessarily going to stop? And I know. But I'm happy to do it because it makes other people comfortable.
SPEAKER_00
46:50 - 47:17
I think some of the virus, listen, must work for viral, just. I know. Some of the virus is stopped by that mask. It has to be. There's a filter. It's not, I mean, some of it can get out. And so if someone gets a smaller dose of the virus, it's probably less detrimental to their health. That's probably the argument for it. You know, someone told me that being on a plane is actually very safe because the way they filter the air.
SPEAKER_01
47:17 - 47:24
It's true. I felt ever since I've been flying for a while. I've been back and forth to London and traveling around out the Los Angeles.
SPEAKER_00
47:24 - 47:27
You got London right now? Yeah. Why did they open that up again?
SPEAKER_01
47:27 - 48:21
Well, not right now. Now, they shut it down until the second of December again, right? This is their second hardcore lockdown. Some parts of England were under what they call a tier three up like North and Manchester. But so now yeah now it's a it's problematic and and no Greece was allowing American travelers for war get this China China has banned Visitors from England China Yeah, Chinese oh my god, no you guys are what about America to infectious? Not no no that might be a bridge too far for for G, but he's okay with banning the the UK residents But anyway, but I, to your point, I felt, you know, for quite a while now, the safest place to be is on a plane. I got, I got on a plane coming from a Heathrow to New York City a handful of weeks ago. And there were, I don't know, six or seven other people on this plane. It's a big plane, right? And there was almost nobody on this thing.
SPEAKER_00
48:21 - 48:35
Do they allow people to take their mask off while they eat? They do. Yeah, yeah, and you have to take it up like governing new some style take it off in between bites and put it back on That's all that that's fantastic guys.
SPEAKER_01
48:35 - 48:41
Yeah, he's a gem. Yeah, yeah, he's he's he's doing wonders out there again for the he's a gem of preposterousness.
SPEAKER_00
48:41 - 48:41
Yeah
SPEAKER_01
48:42 - 48:57
But no, you can you can actually remove your mask you go where it is at as a one-year earring hang in there from your ear It is it is a fat I saw a lot of people were fighting doing it in between the between meals they put it on their wrist
SPEAKER_00
48:58 - 49:02
But while they're eating, they'll put on the wrist and then put it back on their face. It's a new thing.
SPEAKER_01
49:02 - 49:29
It is amazing how we've, it's become normal. I was thinking about that yesterday, they've gotten around the airport looking around and yeah, quick and people all. And it used to be, right, that if you saw, this is going to sound wrong. But if you saw someone wearing a mask, it was probably somebody from Japan or a career somewhere, right? I mean, it was like, because it's a little more common over there. Or someone trying to rob somebody. Well, there's that. Yeah. Yeah. What was the last time we walked into a bank where in a mask? Right.
SPEAKER_00
49:29 - 49:34
You know what's weird is how many people can recognize you with a mask on? Isn't that weird?
SPEAKER_01
49:34 - 49:37
Yeah. So I mean, people have actually done that with you. They said, too.
SPEAKER_00
49:37 - 49:40
Yeah. Mask on hat sunglasses.
SPEAKER_01
49:41 - 50:01
You're ready to jack a car in that situation. Yeah. Um, hey, there'll be some, but there'll be some fan, you know, the police won't have any clue who it was, but there'll be some fan to go, that's Joe. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, again, I, I'm confused over. I will say there's a class of mass squares I'm confused over. Those are the ones who are, you'll, you'll see are in their car by themselves driving with a mask on.
SPEAKER_00
50:03 - 50:04
You shouldn't be allowed to vote.
SPEAKER_01
50:04 - 50:04
Yeah, you shouldn't be.
SPEAKER_00
50:04 - 50:12
I mean, if you're driving in your car, you have no say over anything. If you're in your fucking car with rubber gloves on in a mask, you stop.
SPEAKER_01
50:12 - 50:14
Or if you're out running or biking.
SPEAKER_00
50:14 - 50:29
Well, I think some people do that for Curtis say, because I have Bridget Fettasy was telling me that she was walking down the street on the other side of the street. She was on one side walk, someone was on the other side. She was walking in a dog and someone was screaming her to put a mask on.
SPEAKER_01
50:30 - 51:06
That put a mask on the dog. Yeah. No, I mean, I get that if you're if you're running right obviously if you're running and you're breathing in a heavy but but I'm talking about people that are running in areas like around us we got the foothills right go up in the foothills you can run and not see it but yeah, but I've seen people up there you know running and it's not like you're running downtown New York City where you're passing people constantly and you're like you said you're breathing heavy it's just And, you know, or you're on a obvious on a long, you know, 20 mile bike ride because you got your spandex on. You're going for a big pedal and you got your mask going. I'm thinking, it's probably, hey, it's probably not necessary. It's probably not that healthy.
SPEAKER_00
51:06 - 51:27
Well, you know, they have, you know what a training mask is. It's like an oxygen-depletion mask. Right. Guys, right away. I'm super controversial. Some people say it's horseshit. It doesn't do a goddamn thing for you. Some people say it's very good for you and it by being able to work hard with very little oxygen and expands your cardiovascular potential.
SPEAKER_01
51:28 - 51:38
I mean, I think it all comes down to what you were saying. You know, it's a little thing in life to bend your spirit over, right, to be like an anti-masker. It does all assholes.
SPEAKER_00
51:38 - 51:50
Yeah. It just makes it on a plane who gets kicked off for not wearing a mask. You just go, you know those guys. You know those guys. They exist. They're they're fucking annoying. It's not that hard man put a mask on.
SPEAKER_01
51:51 - 52:06
Yeah, nobody's taking away your freedom, just just put your mask on. I agree, but there is always that element of, uh, I'm standing up to, uh, to, uh, the man or, or, uh, ODS government controller or, you know, it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00
52:06 - 52:17
But on the other hand, the people that make a big deal of the fact that we're in a mask are equally annoying. Yeah, well, that's not equally, well, that's slightly less annoying than the anti-mass people.
SPEAKER_01
52:17 - 52:27
Look, we want to think this whole process is taught me as I find the most annoying people I think exist out there are really, really self-righteous progressive white people.
SPEAKER_00
52:27 - 52:28
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01
52:28 - 52:43
Yeah, that demographic, right? I mean, the one thing I could say is I can't stay on that group, right? And now again, you could say the same thing about the hard side on the right. I mean, there's just
SPEAKER_00
52:44 - 53:25
both those those those people and they probably have more in common than we think right for sure it's an ideology yes yeah it's you you want people to know where you stand on something and you believe that where you stand makes you more virtuous Yes, yeah, that's that's that's a very eloquent way of putting it and you want to kick him in the balls all of them just want to run up to shut your fucking dirty stinky mouth You're annoying you ruin all these good causes That's the problem with all these great causes There's there's some amazing causes that I support yeah, but they're also supported by twats yeah, and these guys that are just just the most annoying liberals
SPEAKER_01
53:25 - 53:52
Well, that's like the BLM movement, right? I mean, there's there are legitimate things you could be doing to to push forward with police reform that makes sense, right? It's raining and the, you know, the, but you got a fundum, right? You actually got to get them better less than lethal weaponry, the hiring and the vetting, but the movement gets hijacked in part by, you know, this group that, you know, just wants to feel good about themselves.
SPEAKER_00
53:52 - 54:07
Do you see the girl in Brooklyn the other day that spit in the cops? Yes. She's yelling at him. You fucking fascist and she spit in his face. Yeah. And then he's like, thank you. That's a salt. Yeah, exactly. Rester. She's like, what are you doing? You can't just spit in someone's face. Not only that, he wasn't even saying anything to you.
SPEAKER_01
54:08 - 54:11
No, he's just standing there. He's standing there and she's losing her shit.
SPEAKER_00
54:11 - 55:30
Young kids like that who've never been held up at gunpoint who've never been robbed. I don't know if she's ever been robbed. Maybe she has. Maybe she's just really hardcore. She's she's been robbed and she's like I'll prefer the fucking thieves to the police. But it's just this thing where you're supposed to hate the cops because of George Floyd or because of a number of other incidents that have nothing to do with that guy. It's like you can't you can't hate any group of people because of someone that is not Just because they do the same job, but they're not the same individual. They're not the same human. They didn't do that horrendous crime that everybody saw that makes you angry. This guy in Milwaukee has no fucking relation to this guy in Florida. They don't know each other. They just happen to both be police officers. It's the same thing with like a firefighter that starts fires because he's crazy You don't go spit in another firefighter's face because my fucking dog burnt to death on a fire you piece of shit like hey, I fight fire exactly Jesus Christ, but we don't we don't do I mean again, it's this idea that somehow worked But it's like all groups look how many how many how many doctors have put people under sedation then molested them a fucking lot man a lot. There's a lot of cases.
SPEAKER_01
55:30 - 55:33
I didn't know there was an epidemic of that.
SPEAKER_00
55:33 - 55:58
It's not an epidemic, but there's enough so that if you Google it you'll find many many many cases where people lost their license to practice got sued went to jail But you don't look at every doctor and go, you piece of shit. I got molested by a doctor, you fucking asshole. And no one's under more pressure for fear of their life in civilian society than a cop.
SPEAKER_01
55:58 - 56:00
No one. Well, that's just thing. We don't understand. Okay.
SPEAKER_00
56:00 - 56:05
Other than maybe a black eye will get's pulled over by a cop. You can just set it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
56:09 - 56:10
So they got a lot in common. It's what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00
56:10 - 56:11
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_01
56:11 - 56:37
Both and say. No, nobody ever puts them. When you're if you're a state trooper and you pull some money over the highway and you you're walking up that you have no idea what it's about to happen. Especially he's got no plates, right? Jesus Christ. So it's but again, it's it's this idea that it's it's all nothing, right? And then we and in part of that is is is is just the The lack of empathy part of it is the way that we're processing information and that fucking social media. That's a big part of it.
SPEAKER_00
56:37 - 56:56
That's a big part of it. A big part of it is also what we were talking about with people being self-righteous. They're self-righteous all day long on Twitter and they're arguing with people about it and they're finding people that agree with them and everybody's competing for likes. Social media has ruined discourse, but it's also enhanced it. It's done both.
SPEAKER_01
56:57 - 57:47
No, it is. I'm not in a lot. I'm not saying it's terrible. I'm just saying that there is a downside that we don't seem to be dealing with very well. Look, I mean, right after this happened, right? So once it became clear that there was not going to be a blue wave and that Biden wasn't going to ride in on it and that the house wasn't going to flip a bunch of Republican seats and they weren't going to take the Senate right away. If you're kind of canvas to what was going on in social media, people were like, wow, this just cemented that. This is clear that it wasn't just an anomaly in 2016. This just cemented half of America's a bunch of shitheads, right? I mean, that was the general tone from some folks out in social media just saying, well, clearly they're all just, they're either stupid or they're bad people or they're both because they don't agree with me. And I, yeah, when the fuck did that happen?
SPEAKER_00
57:47 - 59:13
Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of things that people are voting for. They're not just voting one guy bad, one guy good. It does not what's going on. There's a lot of economic policies. They're dealing with support for the military. That's a giant factor with a lot of people. Look for a lot of my friends who are veterans who are either in the military or have been in the military. That is the number one reason why they voted for Trump. and, you know, Tim Kennedy, that's why he re-enlisted. He re-enlisted because he knew that the military was getting more support and that the funding for the military was going to increase substantially and then we're going to get to take care of things that they were stagnant for a long time and he came in the podcast and talked about it how they basically squashed ISIS in under a year and it was going on forever before that and they were spreading to Boko Haram and all throughout Africa and it was getting scary. And funding increased substantially, support increased substantially. They got what they needed and they got the job done. That for a lot of guys, they're not, they're not assholes. They just support the military and they know that there was one candidate that was making a big push to support the military and another one. That was a part of the whole Benghazi dish. I mean, that was 2016. They didn't trust her because she's a part of the machine. They did the part of the whole machine that got them into Iraq in the first place under false pretenses.
SPEAKER_01
59:16 - 59:29
And after the sort of the summer of what they were witnessing, I think probably looking at that and then saying, I'm for defunding the police or whatever they term they use sometime reimagining policing as a community effort.
SPEAKER_00
59:29 - 59:55
It doesn't mean your racist. And then on top of that, what is Biden really support? Like, what is he standing for? Like, what tell me what the policies are? Does anybody know is there anything like real clear and present that's at the forefront where it makes sense? Like, this is how he's going to clean this up. This is how he's going to clean that up. This is where we're doing wrong. And this is how he's going to fix it. There wasn't a discussion of that. It was just now. Trump is bad. What is Trump doing? Trump is ruining everything.
SPEAKER_01
59:56 - 01:00:42
I'm going to set up a commission. That's what I mean, his answer for a couple of things are like with a pandemic. Well, what are you going to, oh, I'm going to get a commission of, you know, the leading scientists and we're going to look at how do we deliver these things on time and how do I think we'll hold on a second. Look, I mean, I don't doubt that he's a good person. I'm sure he is a good person. But you can't tell me that suddenly you're magically going to develop this level of efficiency that wasn't displayed in the previous eight years of the Obama administration or prior to that when you were as a senator for all this time, I'm admittedly working within a system that sometimes is hard to move. You know, his answer to that commission his answer to court packing. Are you in favor of court packing? He wouldn't answer that question. Yeah. You know, so he said, I'm going to form a commission to look at it because I think the Supreme Court's out of whack. What the fuck does that mean?
SPEAKER_00
01:00:42 - 01:01:16
Well, not only that, he said the people don't deserve to know. Yeah. You hear that part? Yeah. He says some wacky shit and I'll tell you one thing as a comic. God, I hope comic clubs open up the full capacity soon. because they're so much gold in that man. There's gold in Trump. But the gold in Trump was almost hard to mind because like so many people were so polarized by him. It's like in the jokes already wrote themselves. It's like people like Jesus Christ stop talking about Trump. Like enough already. Like I really didn't have much Trump material. I had Trump material on the way to the White House. I got a whole bit about him in 2016.
SPEAKER_01
01:01:19 - 01:01:27
But I may be completely wrong about this, but also he was such a parody of himself, right? In the sense that it's almost hard to go anywhere with it.
SPEAKER_00
01:01:27 - 01:01:39
He's so ridiculous. It's hard to write stuff that's more ridiculous. Because one of the things you do with comedy is you make things more ridiculous than they actually are, but with a grain of truth to it when you're mocking a person.
SPEAKER_01
01:01:40 - 01:01:42
Well, I'm curious as to where corn pops can end up.
SPEAKER_00
01:01:42 - 01:01:55
Oh, this is going to be great. Corn pop is coming back. Corn pop's going to say, oh, I'm here to tell you that story is true. I'm going to be Biden put me in my place. And I was ready to fight him and his, he does have hairy legs.
SPEAKER_01
01:01:55 - 01:01:57
The hairy legs thing confused me, too.
SPEAKER_00
01:01:57 - 01:02:18
You wouldn't, excuse me, was who allowed him to talk and fund all those children that are not paying attention at all? Like that is, you know, some people just real bad at telling stories and kids will be the first to let you know that because they don't go a fuck. Those kids were just having a good time. They were behind him just chatting away, but all sorts of non-related shit.
SPEAKER_01
01:02:18 - 01:02:22
I don't know about your kids, but if I start telling the story and my kids aren't into it, they'll walk off.
SPEAKER_00
01:02:22 - 01:02:52
They just go down. They just go down. They just go down. They don't even stick around. Well, I encourage mockery in my house. Yeah. Like if something's funny, like in my house, it takes the cake. And sometimes I get yelled at for laughing at things that I think you're funny, but you're not supposed to think you're funny, especially my 12-year-old was a hilarious shit. I was just like, ah, stop, that's not supposed to be funny. That's fucking funny. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:02:52 - 01:03:02
No, I mean, yeah, my boys say shit. That's inappropriate all the time. I mean, yeah, at the stop and laugh about it because you think, yeah, that's pretty sophisticated for a nine year old.
SPEAKER_00
01:03:02 - 01:03:18
My youngest goes for the joke. Yeah. She's the most active, like, she'll, like, when my friend's over, she's like turns it on. She goes, she'll start performing. My friend Thompson grew up was like, damn, she's got a lot of comic in her. I'm like, well, she knows what works, right? She's like, in my house, that's currency.
SPEAKER_01
01:03:19 - 01:03:49
You got to do that. I think it helps in so many ways, right? If you're stifled or humorous, or you don't let them understand the complexity of humor, how it can be layered. And part of that is sort of, you know, it's like the nine-year-old sitting with his older brothers and they'll plow through a couple episodes of South Park. And you're not thinking, okay, I've got the nine-year-old watching Borat the second movie. I think it like, all right, I'm sorry. I didn't authorize this.
SPEAKER_00
01:03:49 - 01:03:51
You know what are you going to do?
SPEAKER_01
01:03:51 - 01:04:18
That's awesome. And the one area that we have been trying to control is a language, right? And that's a problem for both my fabulous wife and I, you know, we'll tend to swear around the kids. Yeah, yeah, and so like I don't I don't know problem, you know, if if one of them's acting like a douche, then I'll say hey, look, stop acting like an asshole. Don't be a douchebag or whatever. And and they picked that up, right? I guess I should have known that. And then they would take it to school with them.
SPEAKER_00
01:04:18 - 01:05:16
I feel like it's better if they hear it in the house. Yeah, I really do. It's like what are you going to hear it outside and be confused by it? Like it's language that adults use. I tell my kids just don't use that language and you go over people's houses. Don't use that language around teachers. Don't use that language around other adults. It's a weird thing because they also know that I'm a comedian and I swear for a living. And sometimes my wife listens to my podcast and she'll have it on the car. And so like you get in the car and Bluetooth is playing and you start the car. And I'm like, what the fuck is that guy thinking? Oh my god, Daddy has the worst potty mouth. One thing I do encourage, I do encourage mockery of me. They make fun of me. That's their way to get back. They can make fun of me and I'll start laughing. It's not fair that you live with these people that are older than you, they get to tell you what you never get to tell them what to do. Kids get resentful of that. So the one way they can get back at me is mocking me.
SPEAKER_01
01:05:16 - 01:05:28
Yeah, and I feel exactly the same way as long as they do it in a clever way, right? Yeah, it's got to be Yeah, there's got to be some humor to it, and it's got to be smart, right? About how they how they do it.
SPEAKER_00
01:05:28 - 01:05:35
Well, critique their jokes and like that joke sucked. That's not good. Yeah, but sometimes they get you with some good ones to get you with some singers.
SPEAKER_01
01:05:35 - 01:06:18
Yeah, I got my 13 year old the boy scooter is he started to challenge me, right? Yeah, like you start like You know, we'll get into it to a contest here. We'll start, you know, he'll come up and he'll start punching me. And, you know, and I'll let it go. But then I can kind of tell you, see it in their eyes, right? They're like, yeah, I'm getting, I'm getting one up here. And then you have to take the roll. Then you got to take them down, right? And they're like, okay. But then I'm thinking, I got maybe like, I don't know, not that many years left before he's going to be. Time to start a little bit and say, well, you know, and who doesn't play? He's he will he will one day yeah, he will one day, but right now I can see that he's starting to do that He's starting to challenge a little bit natural.
SPEAKER_00
01:06:18 - 01:06:30
Yeah, it is natural Roy Jones Jr talked about that on this podcast with his dad that a lion has to leave the the den Yeah, you know what a young lion is coming up. The old lions like hey son time for you to get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_01
01:06:30 - 01:06:48
Yeah, or or the old one just wanders off right and dies with a broken jog and feed himself. I told my boys just we owe me out to the back and then go back up on the top deck and take turns shooting at me. Oh, yeah, just take me out at the point where I'm losing it just just do that just just ended
SPEAKER_00
01:06:49 - 01:06:57
I think there's a more humane way to handle it. It probably is. You can do that yourself, too. You don't have to put in your kids, so they have to think about that shit for the rest of their life.
SPEAKER_01
01:06:57 - 01:07:01
So parenting. They didn't seem concerned about the idea, though. In fact, they almost seemed on board.
SPEAKER_00
01:07:01 - 01:07:07
Well, you might have un-correctable errors that you've already cut it in child-rearing.
SPEAKER_01
01:07:10 - 01:07:11
There's that possibility.
SPEAKER_00
01:07:11 - 01:07:24
Hey, what does this shit that I'm hearing the Jamie was bringing up today? That Trump might fire the head of the CIA and the NSA that he's thinking about doing that before he leaves? Yeah, that would be it.
SPEAKER_01
01:07:24 - 01:08:31
You know, but what in Biden just rehire him? I would like to think so. It would be a complete dick move if he does because he's he's not going to find a better director than Gina has blow over the agency. She's top notch and I hear nothing but good things. She's she's outstanding and she's got and this is what I worry about here when when we talk about like the administration change over right because maybe she would stay on during the Biden administration for a period of time. I mean we've seen that in the past and in in other circumstances, but usually they would end up looking and saying we're going to replace the directors we're going to do these things. And, you know, there's been a little bit of talk in Washington, you know, about, you know, who may be in what position? Gina Haspel, one of the things that makes her so good is that she grew up in the outfit, right? And so she's got that deep understanding of operations and what it takes, right? What's required and what, you know, I'd like to go from home land? But that's crazy. Let's crazy. Yeah, no, no, she's not crazy at all. But I mean, no, she's just, you know, she's just top notch. There's no, there's no, uh, there's no chinks in the armor or whatever you say. So why would anyone, are you allowed to say that anymore?
SPEAKER_00
01:08:31 - 01:08:38
I just realized that I don't think so. I think you can still say it, but people get real scared. Okay. They say it. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, I just think of it.
SPEAKER_01
01:08:38 - 01:08:51
Like I just did. But so Gina, it would be great if they replaced her, if they were to replace her with someone who is from outside, right? And we've had some good outside directors. Leon Panetta was a good example, right?
SPEAKER_00
01:08:51 - 01:09:07
That guy, you know, explained to people and helped me along the lines as well. If someone were to become an outside director of the CIA, say you're a person who works in you know, whatever, what industry would they draw from?
SPEAKER_01
01:09:07 - 01:09:30
Sometimes, you know, sometimes the names get floated or like, you know, their biggest thing is they've existed in national security circles, like they think they would think tank for a long time. They were right in policy papers and maybe they were on a national security staff somewhere and they would What the agency thrives under as far as leadership goes usually is somebody who really understands because they've done it.
SPEAKER_00
01:09:30 - 01:09:31
Because they've been inside.
SPEAKER_01
01:09:31 - 01:09:37
They've been inside and they understand what it's all about. They know it's just, there's a lot of moving parts in there.
SPEAKER_00
01:09:37 - 01:09:47
But so you wouldn't take from business. You wouldn't get someone who runs businesses. It would have to be someone with some sort of national security background.
SPEAKER_01
01:09:47 - 01:09:49
Yeah, I mean, you would, you would hope.
SPEAKER_00
01:09:49 - 01:09:56
But you'd still like to think about it. They don't really cross Paul and it really like someone from the FBI wouldn't become the head of the CIA.
SPEAKER_01
01:09:56 - 01:10:23
Well, the fantastic guy. One of the greatest people I've ever known William Webster was both the director of the FBI and the director of the agency during his career. And he was not inside the agency, but he was an outstanding director. He's I think you could argue as an anomaly, you know, a couple others, but I guess my point being is it would be a dick move to let her go because she's outstanding.
SPEAKER_00
01:10:23 - 01:10:29
But do they usually do that or when someone gets in, they clean house and then they put their own people in positions?
SPEAKER_01
01:10:31 - 01:10:38
You know, statistically, I don't know what the percentage is, but sometimes not. I mean, Gates is a good example of that, Bob Gates kind of transcended.
SPEAKER_00
01:10:38 - 01:11:02
Because I always look at agencies, obviously, I'm on the outside deeply, but if I look at agencies as being like something that's completely separate. from what the president is and that they advise the president and give the fill in the president in on all the shit that's going on the world that you don't know about if you're a civilian but you don't directly it's not your part of you know part of this administration
SPEAKER_01
01:11:03 - 01:11:44
No, I mean, the director sometimes can be. And that's why I say it's it's it changes sometimes. You get you get people like that that may come in and have more of a political bent, which I think is always wrong. Ideally, the agency, NSA, other members of the Intel community should always be ideally apolitical. Now, everybody's human, right? They've got their own beliefs, et cetera, obviously. But I think it works best when these, and we've seen from other countries overseas, you see this shit, right? You see when you get a change in government and they just wholesale, you know, clean out the intelligence organization or the police organization and they just bring in all their people and it's a nightmare.
SPEAKER_00
01:11:44 - 01:11:50
We never want that. Yeah, you never want that shit here. So then there's all these growing pains and you got to figure out what the job is and
SPEAKER_01
01:11:51 - 01:12:47
you have a bunch of people that aren't accustomed to the way you normally do business and well then you got people beholden to that power structure for their job and you want that arms like you want them to be able to give objective opinions right that's what's critical here so you have to be able to say here's the reporting here's an objective analysis assessment of what this means here are your options and you have to have confidence that they're doing that in an apolitical, or as much as possible, you know, being realistic, an apolitical manner. And that's what's the whole kerfuffle. Can we say, yeah, you say kerfuffle? Yeah, kerfuffle is fine. And so the whole kerfuffle over the politicization of the FBI, for instance, with Komi and others, that makes people deeply uncomfortable, right? So, but, you know, these positions that very top position typically is politically appointed.
SPEAKER_00
01:12:47 - 01:12:55
Did you see where Ted Cruz was grilling Komi about evidence that had been changed? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:12:55 - 01:13:42
What did you think of that? I sometimes have a hard time watching Ted Cruz, although I give him credit. He's a very, very smart guy. I think he knows his shit. I like his beard. Yeah, beard is top notch. It looks a lot better with the beard. It came out of the pandemic with that, right? I trust him more now for some strange reason. It seems like more of a man. He looks tougher. I was about to say, he looks a little tougher. But you know, I call me, I think, call me has the same problem in the sense that, you know, like over on the CIA side that John Bradden had, I think they just They got too deep into the game in terms of politics and the association. And at that point, one side of the other, depending on where you are on the fence, is going to find that offensive or questionable or maybe lacking in credibility.
SPEAKER_00
01:13:42 - 01:13:49
So when you say too deep in politics, meaning they did things that weren't necessarily the correct things to do, but they were very good for them politically.
SPEAKER_01
01:13:49 - 01:14:05
Yeah, I think so. Or like the game or just develop the two close to tie. I mean, if I were, you know, one of the, if I were the president, I would not want to be a buddy with the head of the agency or a buddy with a head of NSA or the bureau.
SPEAKER_00
01:14:05 - 01:14:10
But what's one of the key things we're trying to demand it from Colmy? He was like, you know, I needed to be loyal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:14:10 - 01:14:48
And Colmy was like, excuse me? Yeah. Well, I think politically, I think he was on the opposite side of the fence there. I mean, I think if somebody who was more politically aligned with Komi had said that he would have got a well, of course, I am, you know, I mean, I'm not not loyal, but because I'm sorry, you can always count on my loyalty. I would have been an issue, I wouldn't have leaked out, it wouldn't have been a story. But yeah, coming back around, I think if the smartest thing they could do if assuming that if I was president Biden becomes president or like Biden, if the numbers continue to go the way they are, with the agency, you know, he should definitely keep you to ask on that job. That would be a smart move on his part.
SPEAKER_00
01:14:48 - 01:14:53
What's the argument against it? Like what is he saying? Do you know what he's saying, Jamie? Is there something
SPEAKER_03
01:14:54 - 01:15:05
Not just like a river, he's going to get rid of everyone, even if... What I wanted to do that is what it was. Oh, even upon reelection, yeah, I just found, it was being talked about like the 26th of October as the first hit.
SPEAKER_01
01:15:05 - 01:16:23
I mean, people generally at that level don't quote me, but generally they submit their resignations, you know, if Trump were to have won or were to win, then they would still submit their resignations and he would have the opportunity to either offer them that position again or find someone new. When there's a change in administration, that's what you do. You hand in your your resignation. I mean, my daughter works in DC and she's in a political position. So she's been out there, you know, quietly looking in the event that the administration changes because her assumption is she will not have a job after January, you know, middle of January. It's a standard procedure out there. But when you find a real quality person who can provide you with extremely good advice and insight, you should probably hold on to that person. Obviously you're a little biased. I'm biased, but I think it goes with that regardless of who that person is, or like I said, with Leon Penetta. He was Clinton's chief of staff, Bill Clinton's. So we're not necessarily politically aligned, but he was a terrific director. So I would say the same thing about anybody who exhibits excellent leadership.
SPEAKER_00
01:16:23 - 01:16:26
Do you think any politicians are going to do this thing again? He did it.
SPEAKER_01
01:16:26 - 01:16:29
The hands. Yes, whatever that is.
SPEAKER_00
01:16:29 - 01:16:40
I'm not sure what that does. Yeah. How about this? This was jerking off. I saw that. I don't think Trump's jerking off goes. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Trump's out here jerking off.
SPEAKER_01
01:16:40 - 01:16:44
Oh, the dance. Yeah, dance. I danced again. I just don't know what that means.
SPEAKER_00
01:16:44 - 01:17:12
Not at all the hands. I'm gonna miss that. Look at this. I mean, when you really stop and think about it, that is one of the worst ways you could ever. I mean, he's literally doing the Dick and E. Chan move. That's a Dick and E. Chan move. Look, Dick and E. Chan, Dick and E. Chan. Struck him, Struck him. Hey. Welcome. Take you and I'll take you. Jerky, you're off. Look at that.
SPEAKER_01
01:17:14 - 01:17:17
We're not going to get that. We're not going to get this again.
SPEAKER_00
01:17:17 - 01:17:38
No. No. I mean, he's like I said, he's almost too much for, look at that in the mouth. Look at that. He's almost too much for comedy. Yeah. You know, I'm saying like he's almost too ridiculous. Everything about the hair, the fucking, but the fact that he beat COVID in four days, it really killed that goddamn narrative that this is something that's going to kill us all.
SPEAKER_01
01:17:39 - 01:18:03
Yeah, that's an interesting point about what the narrative is going to be. The science isn't going to change, come January 21st, or whatever, when we inaugurate the new president. If it happens to be Biden, the science won't change between now and then. There's still be working on vaccines to get those out for delivery. I guarantee that tone is going to change right? Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00
01:18:03 - 01:18:51
Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally coming up. This is going to open up. Yeah. The economy's going to shift. Yeah. And it's not going to happen. It's going to have to January. They're going to wait till Biden actually gets an office. They're not going to do it when he's the president elect. They're going to wait, wait, wait, wait, open it back up. And they're going to hope they did enough time where all these people are still going to vote Democrat. And unfortunately, I think a lot of them are going to forget, like how ridiculous some of these governors have been. They've killed people's businesses. They've stopped people from working. They've taken away people's ability to make their own choices about what to do. And that, I mean, they're fighting that in California and knew some just lost in case where he said that he overextends at his powers and they're forbidding him to do that from now. And then they're going to review it. And he's basically changing legislation.
SPEAKER_01
01:18:52 - 01:20:22
Well, and I think that's what people should watch also is, look, these two can't emphasize this enough. Unless Purdue gets that 50% plus one vote and outright wins that Senate seat in Georgia. You've got these two Senate seats, right? And this is the balance of the US Senate. This is why this is important. This is actually more important now than the focus that the world's got on Biden Trump, right? And I think that trains left the station probably, but regardless that that's Senate control. is critically important in terms of, again, a sort of balance of power arrangement, keeping government in check. And so, you know, the Democrats are, you know, they are going to pump a shit ton of cash into those races. If they're two of them, even if they're just one, well, no, if this one, then forget about it because, you know, they've lost some majority possibility, but if both of those go to run off in January, You know, I think that may, and Biden is the president-elect, and it's decided and they have the concession speech from Trump. And so we go through this period of mid-December through January. Then I think you will see some change. I don't think they'll wait until after Biden is officially president in terms of the coverage, because they're going to want to impact those elections in Georgia. You're going to want to show them, my God, look, we're really doing this. And it's, oh, things are turning around now. Yeah, and the media will be completely complicit.
SPEAKER_00
01:20:22 - 01:20:41
Obviously. Well, it's most of the media's left wing. Yes, weird. And then you got that I think what's going to happen is Trump's going to form his own media organization. That's what I think. I think he's going to have something either online or he's going to have something on a network. But like, what does that owe away in?
SPEAKER_01
01:20:42 - 01:20:47
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's sort of the, what is it? So what do we got? We got OAN and we got Newsmax.
SPEAKER_00
01:20:47 - 01:20:52
They make Fox look like CNBC. Yeah. Yeah. They, or MSNBC.
SPEAKER_01
01:20:52 - 01:20:56
You see how a lot of conservatives have turned on Fox, like, a fucking heartbeat.
SPEAKER_00
01:20:56 - 01:21:00
Right? That's so crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But it's turned on Fox when they call Arizona.
SPEAKER_01
01:21:00 - 01:21:15
Yeah. But they've been doing it. You know, there's, there's been some dissatisfaction. I think within the, the right over Fox's direction, right? What's wrong with the direction? Well, I think they felt like it was getting too liberal. Right. I know. That was the thing.
SPEAKER_00
01:21:15 - 01:21:17
Well, Chris Wallace.
SPEAKER_01
01:21:17 - 01:21:21
Yeah. Yeah, Chris Wallace. He's been questioning Trump.
SPEAKER_00
01:21:21 - 01:21:21
How dare he?
SPEAKER_01
01:21:21 - 01:21:53
Yeah. But they got what do they got? They got that. They got that. They got the triumph of Carlson, Ingram, and Hannity. Right. So they're happy with those, I think, still. But I think they question everything else they hear. And certainly after they called Arizona now, there's a lot of pissed off. People who will go to OAN or whatever the OAN Newsmax as a refuge. But a media company for Trump, that might make more sense. I assumed that if he's out after this term, that he would just get some huge offer from a network for another show.
SPEAKER_00
01:21:53 - 01:22:05
He will get that. He will, I think he will probably start his own thing. And I think he will also start running for reelection. And he's going to try to run again in 2024. No way. Yeah. No.
SPEAKER_01
01:22:05 - 01:22:11
That's what he's going to do. I will I will place it back. Come on, one. How many of us? That Trump will not run for real.
SPEAKER_00
01:22:11 - 01:22:17
He's going to run in 2024. He's going to win in 2024. I will bet you right now. Give me some $1,000. All right. What kind of odds I get?
SPEAKER_01
01:22:18 - 01:22:19
I was going to give you even odds.
SPEAKER_00
01:22:19 - 01:22:28
Okay. That's 20, 20. How many of those things have happened? Does he have to win or does he have to run? Well, he's made it to run and win. I like him, but I got crazy. Yeah. You want to buy? Okay, run.
SPEAKER_01
01:22:28 - 01:22:35
I got odds for win. For win. Okay. I'll go even for running.
SPEAKER_00
01:22:35 - 01:22:37
Okay, even for run. You got that.
SPEAKER_01
01:22:37 - 01:22:39
Thousand bucks and then odds for winning. Okay.
SPEAKER_00
01:22:40 - 01:22:54
I need like five. He's like. Favorite for the 2024 nominee. Yeah, there you go, bro. Yeah. What did I tell you? Yeah. I'm not talking shit. John K. She has a good chance. Mark Cuban. Oh, they're all playing. Wait. I thought Mark Cuban is, uh, is he a Republican?
SPEAKER_01
01:22:54 - 01:23:00
Uh, because he was, uh, as much as President Trump as I suppose. And they.
SPEAKER_00
01:23:00 - 01:23:06
But I thought he was supporting Biden. He's been supporting Biden. And he's been saying that Biden is good for business.
SPEAKER_01
01:23:06 - 01:23:19
I think he's been sticking out sort of that independent kind of position. He'll probably swing a little right as if he's serious about running. Now that if Biden wins, I think in he'll want to kind of veer him as way back towards the right.
SPEAKER_00
01:23:19 - 01:23:21
We're so broken in terms of this two party.
SPEAKER_01
01:23:22 - 01:23:37
So broken but the libertarians you that's no place to land. I mean I agree with a lot of the sort of the concepts, but it's not gonna it's it's never gonna be a successful third party that challenges it could if someone like Trump became a libertarian Right this way he said back in 2017.
SPEAKER_00
01:23:37 - 01:23:55
What he said says he runs for print probably runs Republican probably said probably I don't like that word Probably. Fuck. Does that mean, bro? Who knows? Maybe he'll become more compassionate if he licks his finger and feels the wind blowing in that direction. Yeah. Yeah. You know?
SPEAKER_01
01:23:55 - 01:23:58
Okay. Well, we got that back out of the way. So that's good. So did we.
SPEAKER_00
01:23:58 - 01:23:58
We're 2024.
SPEAKER_01
01:23:58 - 01:24:01
Let me get this right. That's 4,000 now. Yeah. 1,000 bucks for if I if he runs I win 1,000 bucks. And if he wins I win 5,000.
SPEAKER_00
01:24:12 - 01:24:21
So if he runs already have a thousand, then I'll stake against you for winning. Okay. And then I just get a free shot at winning five grand.
SPEAKER_01
01:24:21 - 01:24:28
I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I'm pretty strong on this one. I don't, I just don't see that happening. Yeah. I'm pretty strong on this one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03
01:24:28 - 01:24:34
Different odds for the overall winner of the next election. That's Kamala Harris as the leader with.
SPEAKER_00
01:24:34 - 01:24:37
Well, we'll get Mike Pence throw. Mike Pence is eight to one.
SPEAKER_03
01:24:37 - 01:24:38
Yeah. Trump isn't even on the list.
SPEAKER_00
01:24:38 - 01:24:51
Well, Biden is 12 to one. The low AOC is 25 to 1 scroll down. Yeah, better out of the trump. Damn, that's amazing. Wallmode 25 to 1. That's not it. Elizabeth Warren 28 to 1. This is or shit.
SPEAKER_03
01:24:51 - 01:24:53
I mean, it's very early. This is.
SPEAKER_00
01:24:53 - 01:24:54
Trump is 33 to 1.
SPEAKER_01
01:24:54 - 01:25:07
Oh my god. But the problem I got with this is look. We got 330 someone million people and we keep rehashing the same Yeah, we didn't last you know what when you go to the movies Okay, I want to see Daniel Day Lewis.
SPEAKER_00
01:25:07 - 01:25:13
Okay. I want to see Matt Damon. I want to see people I know. I don't see some fucking nobody playing Thor. Yeah, okay
SPEAKER_01
01:25:13 - 01:25:16
I want the Thor guy. He wants somebody to recognize.
SPEAKER_00
01:25:16 - 01:25:37
Yeah, that's what it is. I mean, they're playing a role. The role is the leader of the country. Yeah. You know, we like, oh, I know who that pens guy is. He was the VP. He's actually a very good speaker. Even though he seems a bit loony. Yeah. I'd like to get him alone. I like to get him alone. I don't spend some time with him. He's like, get him drunk. He probably doesn't drink at all.
SPEAKER_01
01:25:38 - 01:26:24
That's a question Trump does not famously, but I don't know I think it would be nice to see I've always thought it'd be great to see somebody like a kind of the laser rice, you know come come out of retirement from politics and to see if any desire to do that I think none because she was inside she probably probably like I'm done Yeah, yeah, I just think she's she's having too much fun out in the commercial world and and Sure, you know, so you know, she'll end up as is Commissioner of the NFL or something I think that's the job she wants, but does she really? Yeah, so when I think it would just be nice to see other well qualified people kind of rise to the challenge.
SPEAKER_00
01:26:24 - 01:27:11
You don't want to essentially enter a young apparently wants to do something with MMA. He wants to create new legislation for MMA and have people, I talked about it with Luke Thomas today. He wants people in MMA to be to fall into the Ali Act. The Ali Act is that a promoter can't also be the belt distributor. Okay. So the sanctioned bodies like the WBC in boxing can also be a promoter. Right. The UFC is obviously a promoter and they also are the sanctioning body, the same thing. And the Ali Act forbids that for boxing. And he wants the Ali Act to apply to MMA. which is interesting.
SPEAKER_01
01:27:11 - 01:27:13
It's a strange thing for him to pick up and run with.
SPEAKER_00
01:27:13 - 01:28:00
I think he's a big fan. I think he doesn't like it and I think he's become very popular inside MMA circles. He has some really good suggestions about cops too. He said he think and this is I've really co-heartedly agree with this. He said he thinks every cop should be at least a purple belt and Brazilian jiu-jitsu. And I wholeheartedly agree with that. I think he's very wise. Andrew Yang is wise. He says smart things. I like talking to him, but I like hearing him talk. And I would wholeheartedly support him as president too. I think he's a wise person. I know a lot of people don't like his idea of universal basic income, but I think this pandemic showed that there's a real need to have at least a backup plan if people can't work.
SPEAKER_01
01:28:00 - 01:28:12
In terms of a crisis, yeah, in terms of a crisis, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in terms of a pandemic, and this is one of the last pandemic, you know, hopefully we learn some lessons from it. And I think we have, let me ask you this.
SPEAKER_00
01:28:12 - 01:28:19
Yeah, gun to your head. Yeah. Did this come from a wet market, or did it come from a level four virus lab?
SPEAKER_01
01:28:20 - 01:29:04
I think the answer is a little more complicated. I think it probably popped up in a wet market. I think they're probably looking at it inside the lab and I think their containment procedures and their protocols were lacking. And I think it got away from them. And I think that's That's what the Chinese regime is busy still to stay trying to hide. So I think that, you know, and look, there was, there was documentation of concern about this particular lab and the level of security around it. And, you know, concern over the money that was still being given to that lab to keep it going and despite the fact that the protocols were lacking.
SPEAKER_00
01:29:04 - 01:29:08
So, what they cited for safety violations is recently in 2018? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:29:08 - 01:29:12
I mean, we were back a decade or so. There were issues.
SPEAKER_00
01:29:12 - 01:30:45
Here's what I found fascinating about this situation. When the virus got out and when the pandemic started, one thing that everyone was certain of was where the virus originated and that if you said that it came from the lab, you were some wacky conspiracy theorist. There's a fucking level for biological hazard, whatever it is, with the history of problems. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But if you suggest, I mean, there's so many mysteries about this virus, right? Right. But if you suggested that it came perhaps from this lab, You are some sort of a conspiracy. You're a xenophobic too. Yes, xenophobic. And by the way, I've been accused of that because of that and having a fucking biologist on the show explain why Brett Weinstein explained why he believed it came from the lab explain why because if you examine the virus There's so many things that point to the fact that virus has been manipulated, that this virus is far too contagious, that it spreads far too quickly. It's gone through this whole evolutionary process that seems to have happened way too quickly for it not to have been manipulated. He explained this in scientific terms without saying ever that he believes it absolutely came from the lab. He's like all indications point. to the possibility that this had come from the lab. And I've read all these things where Joe Rogan shows spreading dangerous conspiracy theories about the virus.
SPEAKER_01
01:30:45 - 01:30:49
Because we should believe everything that the series seems to have.
SPEAKER_00
01:30:49 - 01:31:09
How do we, why is there so many questions about so many things? But you can't question that. We're not talking about a place that doesn't have a level four lab. We're talking in place that it does. Well, it's not like they study coronavirus. Oh, yes, they do. Well, what can't be come from there? Can't impossible. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:31:09 - 01:31:54
How is it impossible? By the way, this call five to been tested. Are you confident? No, no, I just spent tested. You know, that 30 minutes ago, I was negative. Everybody gets scared if you sneeze. I know. If you look at you like something wrong, I've read something where it says sneezing in your mask is a new shit in your pants. I think there's every likelihood that this was picked up or identified in the wet market or through okay this is a naturally occurring and we know that this has happened before so that's not that's not hard to imagine but The likelihood that that then made its way into the lab is they were looking at it manipulating and I do believe there was fuckery going on in terms of just trying to understand what it was or trying to see where it was going to go.
SPEAKER_00
01:31:54 - 01:31:57
They study coronavirus is from bats in that lab.
SPEAKER_01
01:31:57 - 01:32:07
Exactly. And so then and then again, you've got a history of problems and protocols with this particular lab. Where's the fucking mystery in terms of at least assuming that this is a possibility?
SPEAKER_00
01:32:07 - 01:32:43
I think the real wacky conspiracy theory is that they did it on purpose and I don't subscribe to that. Right. I think that seems highlyological that they would subject their own people to that and then they would shut down essentially most of the world. That doesn't benefit anybody. It doesn't seem like that. I don't see a logical reason why anybody would release that on purpose. But I just don't know, it's the same kind of people that wear their fucking masks and their Twitter profile pictures are the ones that hate anybody discussing the possibility that that virus escape from a lap. Yeah. I just don't understand the argument.
SPEAKER_01
01:32:43 - 01:33:43
Well, it was the same. Again, and you had all the angst over. over the temporary halt on travel between China and the U.S. And again, that's, you know, if you had this thing crisis management planning, right? So every company, every corporation will have a set of protocols and they go through this and say okay we got to look at all the potential threats and risks facing our company and then we have to create a crisis management plan in case of this happens that happens whatever like you said have a backup plan or have a scenario that you can go to and then you exercise that right and so it's not Hard to imagine that if you have a pandemic playbook that says, OK, these are the various scenarios. We've identified now that this virus has come from over here that we're going to temporarily halt travel from that location where we've identified this is the origination of that virus. What the hell is that tough, but yet in this environment, because it's immediately politically charged.
SPEAKER_00
01:33:43 - 01:34:06
Well, it is immediately immediately politically charged, but then the ball shifts the goal post shift everything shifts because at first it was a xenophobic move. It was horrific and racist for him to shut down travel to China. Then it became he should have shut down travel earlier. Yeah. He knew about it all the way back in January. Why do they take so long to respond? Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:34:06 - 01:34:10
No one knew what it was like the conspiracy theories that they knew about it.
SPEAKER_00
01:34:10 - 01:34:39
But it's not fair when they take advantage of something that clearly no one was prepared for and blame it all in him. Now if you want to criticize him for saying it's like the flu it's going to go away it's going to be magic it's going to disappear It's going to go away. Yeah, I think you're allowed to criticize him on that. That's a preposterous way of discussing it. It's stupid and to say it's going to be like magic. No, it's not. And then when he got it himself, I think that was a real wake-up call.
SPEAKER_01
01:34:40 - 01:34:52
I think you're right about that. I think you could see a change in tone. And I think he became a little more if that's possible for him empathetic. But look at Dems for a couple of days. Yeah, I don't want to make more.
SPEAKER_00
01:34:52 - 01:34:56
And then he became like a fucking Superman. Yeah, maybe I'm immune. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01
01:34:57 - 01:35:01
I completely immune. My blood is going to be used to solve the problem.
SPEAKER_03
01:35:01 - 01:35:12
Jamie's got some sort of random question that maybe insight from him would be into, like, I've seen a lot of stuff online about him, Alani, a body double. That like one version of it doesn't even like to hold his hand, but this other version will hug and kiss them.
SPEAKER_00
01:35:12 - 01:35:49
Super affectionate with him. Yeah. I can imagine. Listen to do that. Bro, they can make that fucking guy look like a goblin and that one that was post Malone totals about. Remember that guy? Nekro Goblin. Nekro Goblin. Yeah, I mean that guy has a podcast where he wears this goblin outfit and he interviews people. You're telling me they can't make someone look like Malania Trump Like people saying that to Melania, you're being an idiot. Are you sure? She's wearing sunglasses. She's obviously a lady with a lovely figure who's wearing sunglasses. Her face seems similar to Melania, but not exact.
SPEAKER_01
01:35:49 - 01:35:52
So what are you saying? You're in the camp of the body double.
SPEAKER_00
01:35:52 - 01:36:40
Oh, and nobody double. This is what I think. Yes. Rick Baker, who's been on the podcast before, created the American Weirwolf in London. You're talking about in the 80s, he got a guy to look like he was turning into a fucking Weirwolf. You're telling me you can't recreate Melania's facial structure in a doll. Of course they can. Not a doll. I mean, you know, a mask. with met with this does a revenue stream there especially with all the big revenue stream especially with the the goggles there huge those glasses are more than glasses they're basically welding goggles she's got fashion welding goggles on and you know smart classic but she's behaving in a way that you never see Melania behaving they're like newlyweds she's kissing him she's all lovey-dovey and everybody's cheering
SPEAKER_01
01:36:41 - 01:36:47
Like, I will say this, my, uh, my, uh, my, one of the so funny that it's such a fucking conspiracy.
SPEAKER_00
01:36:47 - 01:36:55
Go to the video of the Melania body double being affectionate with Trump, because that's the weirdest to me. I'm all in on the body double.
SPEAKER_01
01:36:55 - 01:37:40
By the way, my wife, my wife has worked with Melania in the past on some overseas concerns and trips. And she's got nothing but excellent things to say about Melania in terms of, she says she's a very private person, right? She doesn't really like sort of the press concerns of the job of First Lady. Her staff, well, I've said absolutely a doors and a love serve because she is a You know, a kind individual of decent person. So I've heard nothing but good things about her. I will admit I've never heard this body double story before. I don't know where to go with that. I know. It's just another. It's another one more thing I got to investigate.
SPEAKER_00
01:37:40 - 01:38:04
Oh, here we go. Here it is. Look at this body double. What do you think? Hmm. Look at, she's kissing them, she's all hugging, hugging. I like it whether they did that doesn't look like her. I'm sorry, it doesn't look like her. Also, I don't like how they didn't in front of the fucking teleprompter. We're kind of shit, camera work is this. I think they took a beautiful lady with a lovely figure and they put a millennium Ask Honor. That's what I think. Look at that.
SPEAKER_01
01:38:04 - 01:38:06
Look at this. It's like it's a pruder fill.
SPEAKER_00
01:38:06 - 01:38:06
Right?
SPEAKER_01
01:38:06 - 01:38:09
Holy shit. Now we've got people investigating this.
SPEAKER_00
01:38:09 - 01:38:21
This is how different she looks there. Like it is. A different person. Oh, it's a different person. Different nose. Everything the other one looks like a rubber nose. Go back up to the top again. That's a rubber nose. It's a fake nose. It looks like a one of them grow.
SPEAKER_01
01:38:21 - 01:38:24
You said it could be Mike Pence underneath that mask. I don't think.
SPEAKER_00
01:38:24 - 01:38:40
That's how I'm saying it. Okay. That's how I'm saying it. All right. Just asking. Yeah. Yes. See, that's what I'm saying. Rick Baker. Come on. You tell me Rick Baker. Look at he did with the werewolf. You tell me who couldn't turn maligning a trump into that. Come on.
SPEAKER_01
01:38:41 - 01:38:48
Of course, we had, how they would, how they would work with the agency with the CIA and the past on, on working with our disguise unit.
SPEAKER_00
01:38:48 - 01:38:49
I'm sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:38:49 - 01:38:52
And it's, and it, I will say, it's incredible.
SPEAKER_00
01:38:52 - 01:38:53
Incredible.
SPEAKER_01
01:38:53 - 01:39:05
Yeah. Because you think about it. Sometimes, you know, it got like me, it may not blend everywhere in the world. And so the ability to operate on the streets or out in the open. Yeah. So we get, we've got a shit hot disguise unit.
SPEAKER_00
01:39:06 - 01:39:19
Well, don't you remember Team America World Police? Fuck yeah. Well, they gave him the ultimate disguise when he was out there talking to the terrorist.
SPEAKER_01
01:39:19 - 01:39:19
Can we get that out?
SPEAKER_00
01:39:19 - 01:39:34
But yeah, by the way, I'm not serious about the Melania double. I don't really think it's Melania double. I'm fucking bad it was. He's got the Trump thing with the Tanner on the eyes though. Look, he's got the Trump thing with the Tanner on the eyes.
SPEAKER_01
01:39:35 - 01:39:37
Oh my god that movie was fantastic.
SPEAKER_00
01:39:37 - 01:39:37
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01
01:39:37 - 01:39:46
Oh my god. With Camille Jones song. Yes. Hans Briggs. Hans Hans Hans, your busting my balls. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
01:39:46 - 01:40:00
It's one of the greatest movies of all time. Yeah. You know another great movie the people forgot about the South Park movie. We're Satan and Saddam Hussein are gay lovers. Jesus Christ and they had dicks. They could show dicks because it was a cartoon dicks. So you could have the dick flopping around. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:40:01 - 01:40:04
The voice work on that was was amazing. Amazing.
SPEAKER_00
01:40:04 - 01:40:10
Amazing. Satan is gaining. There you go. Yeah. Come on man. Dude.
SPEAKER_01
01:40:10 - 01:40:14
That's the dumb's voice was brilliant.
SPEAKER_00
01:40:14 - 01:40:20
Yeah. And so the head moves are your Canadians. Yeah. We're pops off. Terrence and Philip. Hey. Hey.
SPEAKER_01
01:40:23 - 01:40:29
It's a great show. I recommend that show to everybody I know because it's I honestly think it's it's the best piece of television work ever done.
SPEAKER_00
01:40:29 - 01:41:27
They're the greatest of all time. They're the greatest comedy producers of all time, but the movie that movie South Park the South Park movie is so underrated because it's almost like their body of work is so extensive. They have so many good episodes and so much good stuff that people forgot about a lot of it. Dude, when I first moved California, it was maybe a year after I was here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The show, this is what I was about to say. When I first moved to California in 94, I was living in North Hollywood for about a year, and then I moved to Insino. So when I was in Insino, somewhere around 95ish, and someone gave me a VHS copy of their first production, and it wasn't even South Park then. It was like, I think maybe it was South Park, but it was all the characters, and it was all about what would Brian Boytano do.
SPEAKER_01
01:41:27 - 01:41:30
Brian Boytile the skater.
SPEAKER_00
01:41:30 - 01:41:31
I think it was about Christmas.
SPEAKER_03
01:41:31 - 01:41:34
Yeah, that's been on 95. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
01:41:34 - 01:41:48
Thank you. So I got a VHS copy that and I remember dying laughing. It was the funniest fucking shit I've ever heard. So that was 25 years ago. So of course the show is 21 years old.
SPEAKER_03
01:41:49 - 01:42:02
I just went over the movie. Yeah, the movie to me. I was like I was in my friend. But it was nice. Yeah, but that put me in like my software. I was like a year after the show came out is when the movie came out. I didn't realize it was that fast. Was it really? That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00
01:42:02 - 01:42:02
So the show was out 98.
SPEAKER_03
01:42:04 - 01:42:07
97. Yeah, I think it's one starter.
SPEAKER_00
01:42:07 - 01:42:18
But the best one of my favorite characters, butters. I love how they've never, well, they kind of upgraded since then since the spirit of Christmas with the animation looks like that much. Not much.
SPEAKER_01
01:42:18 - 01:42:19
Do you see the documentary on how they make it?
SPEAKER_00
01:42:19 - 01:42:24
Yeah. That's brilliant. Yeah. What's it called seven days? Yeah. Six days. Six days. It's fucking great.
SPEAKER_01
01:42:24 - 01:42:33
And they get to that point and they got like nothing. I think I'm like two, two and a half minutes, they got to fill. And then they come up with something brilliant. Yeah. Like smack it and say on the egg or some other song.
SPEAKER_00
01:42:33 - 01:43:18
Sometimes that kind of pressure creates diamonds. It really does news radio that the sitcom that I was on, the writers would employ a similar tactic. They would not write until like two o'clock in the morning. And then they had a table reading the next day. And then they would write. But then they also, they were loopy because they were tired. and silly and so then they would come up with this brilliant like preposterous shit and that sometimes I think that something like one of the strategies they employed is getting delirious from from fatigue right when you're over tired sometimes your brain works in this weird way now I could have suggested to them marijuana and I think that would have done the same thing and you could have done it in the middle of the day and you would have been fine and you got a good night's sleep but are you I am work early ask you this quiz in all seriousness
SPEAKER_01
01:43:19 - 01:43:24
from your perspective. Do you think you're more creative when you're smoking weed or less?
SPEAKER_00
01:43:24 - 01:43:37
No, I don't think it's less. It's definitely a different kind of creative. I think it opens up my brain to ideas that I don't necessarily think I would entertain if I was sober. What happened? The light's flashed.
SPEAKER_01
01:43:37 - 01:43:42
The government. It's a government that culminated, and it's not because of the weed talk.
SPEAKER_00
01:43:42 - 01:44:01
It's because of the Malania talk. Make sure we're recording here. Did it shut off? No, nothing. We're good. Jesus. That's strange. It's just different. Did you see there's some study today that came out. I put it on my Instagram page that civil society in four times more effective for anti-depressants than medication.
SPEAKER_01
01:44:01 - 01:44:05
Yes, I see. Anything they can do for that issue.
SPEAKER_00
01:44:05 - 01:44:05
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:44:05 - 01:44:07
I mean you think about the number of people on antitipressants.
SPEAKER_00
01:44:07 - 01:44:14
Especially right now. Yeah. Do many people during this pandemic have just lost everything and they're freaking out and suicides through the roof.
SPEAKER_01
01:44:15 - 01:44:22
Through the roof. Yeah, and we, you know, again, this idea that I, I'm very, very fine. We'll give him some cash. They'll be fine. And it's no, it's, they're dead.
SPEAKER_00
01:44:22 - 01:44:31
Well, that ship is sailed. The people already lost their businesses and they gave $1,200 check out months ago. Like, how did they handle that so poorly?
SPEAKER_01
01:44:31 - 01:44:45
Well, and then you look at this and you think, okay, and Pelosi, during her speech today, her marriage came out and gave a little presser. I don't know if she took any questions, but it was like part of it was also this implication that now we're going to get to work on the, on the next stimulus bill and I'm thinking, What the fuck you been doing?
SPEAKER_00
01:44:45 - 01:45:07
Yeah, obviously clearly we're waiting for this election to go so that nobody gets credit except for for exactly exactly that's exactly what it is they didn't care about people's businesses and jobs to put politics ahead of everything and they they banked everything on this reelection and I I accused these liberal governors are doing the same thing I think that was part of the reason why they kept things shut down I really do
SPEAKER_01
01:45:08 - 01:46:02
No, no, I don't doubt that for a minute. I'm not, again, you know, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I have no doubt that this they weaponized this whole pandemic issue for political purposes and they played it very, very well. But this was, this was like, that's going to sound wrong. But, you know, it's, it's a horrific thing. It's terrible. You never, you know, wish it on anybody, but there's no doubt. that displayed into the DNC's or the Democratic Party's hands. And they took advantage in certain cases of it, right? And because they'd been throwing shit at Trump for four years. And most of it didn't stick, no matter what they tried. And this was the thing that worked for them. And they sought pretty early on, right? And they saw what the economy was doing. And that was his big ticket, right? You know, running on the economy. was his thing. Yep. And they was just a one thing that could take him down.
SPEAKER_00
01:46:02 - 01:46:19
And it just shows you how dirty politics are there. They're willing to let untold thousands and maybe even millions of people lose their livelihoods just so that they could maintain political power. It just shows you how dirty they are. Yeah. And by the way, it goes across the board. I was going to say that.
SPEAKER_01
01:46:19 - 01:46:21
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not just one side of the board.
SPEAKER_00
01:46:21 - 01:46:24
No, there were Republicans who had done the same goddamn thing. Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_01
01:46:24 - 01:46:40
Yeah, just like the Dems right now, if it was flipped, they would be crying foul as we've seen in the past. And they'd be saying, we're going to investigate and we're not, we're not giving a concession speech, we're going to take this to court. It's the way, yeah, it's the way it's played. It's so fucking dysfunctional sometimes.
SPEAKER_00
01:46:40 - 01:47:44
It's weird. It's just such a weird, divided time in this country. It makes me sad. That's why we need mushrooms. Yeah, everybody's got realized. We're not that far apart in our ideas. We're not talking about evil people that want to eat babies versus people that want to save babies. The things that separate the right and the left, they're much smaller than we think. They really are. The idea that America somehow and other inherently evil and racist and terrible and That's not true. Like what we are is we're the most innovative and creative country the world's over-known in terms of like the impact we've had on culture. There's so much to be proud of for being American even though you know it's not like you asked to be American right we're all born here we got lucky or moved here because you you got it you caught it caught it early on and you you realize once you got here like you could do a lot of shit here you can't do other places And it's pretty badass, but it's not perfect. And we could work together to make it better. You don't have to demonize everyone that loves America.
SPEAKER_01
01:47:44 - 01:48:22
Or you just set to accept the fact that not everybody thinks the same. And going back to what I mentioned earlier where it was after the election after it was clear, it was going to be very, very close. And some folks on the left came out and so I talked about, well, you just can't save these 48 or 49% of, meaning people that don't think like they, or didn't vote, you know, for Biden, you can't save them because they're just, they're hopeless, they're useless, they're stupid or bad. That's a, that's a hell of a way to think, right? And then I saw that guy that, The guy that turned out to be anonymous, right? And sort of that mid-level... Yeah, he's... Yeah, he's.
SPEAKER_00
01:48:22 - 01:48:22
Yeah, he's.
SPEAKER_01
01:48:22 - 01:48:51
Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's. And I met that jokingly. I don't really mean that. Of course I do mean it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
01:48:51 - 01:49:01
Yeah. Well, he lied about it when he's talking to Anderson Cooper. He lied about being anonymous. Anderson Cooper for first of all is Anderson Cooper CIA. He is right. He's okay.
SPEAKER_01
01:49:01 - 01:49:04
He's just between you and me. No. He's not.
SPEAKER_00
01:49:04 - 01:49:08
Okay. Yeah. But he was right. No. Didn't he work for the CIA at one point in time?
SPEAKER_01
01:49:10 - 01:49:37
if he did a lot of it in a lot of umms i don't like it i had never heard of that but seriously i'm not sure i'm not sure i'm not sure i didn't i didn't i didn't we actually we still have a roll of decks we don't use a database we still have a big roll of decks and he's a junkier way through a Vanderbilt oligarch air Anderson Cooper worked at cia a college okay he was a it was he was a summer intern listen bro why would you be an intern unless you want to be a part of the agency
SPEAKER_00
01:49:38 - 01:49:56
Yeah, okay. A lot of guys get a job at like a landscaping company. They don't work for the fucking CIA. It's a great way to meet women. You want to make money drive for Uber deliver pizzas. You have to work for the goddamn CIA. Yeah, I don't just CIA operative. It's a CNA. It's a summer intern. He's a little too smogging confident. You think so?
SPEAKER_01
01:49:56 - 01:50:01
Yeah, he's got some backing. He looks too he's too well groomed to stay in the agency for any period of time.
SPEAKER_00
01:50:02 - 01:50:11
You know what's fascinating to me, beyond that, beyond that. That is, it is fascinating and I think we've confirmed he is CIA, someone called Cuba.
SPEAKER_01
01:50:13 - 01:50:15
All right, cats out of the bag. He still works.
SPEAKER_00
01:50:15 - 01:50:21
He seems to know. He knew that I was anonymous because he gets the fucking the emails. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
01:50:21 - 01:50:29
Anyway, I did make call anonymous a fuck with it. I did. Yeah. I take it back. But no, I mean, I take back the fact that I didn't. I didn't make the call on that.
SPEAKER_00
01:50:29 - 01:50:35
Oh, you did. It's, it's a silly. He seems more silly than he is anything.
SPEAKER_01
01:50:36 - 01:50:41
But he was, but he was, remember, he was referred to as the senior senior official.
SPEAKER_00
01:50:41 - 01:50:49
Yeah, that's what silly I mean. I mean, it's just like, come on, he's not a senior official. But we don't trust, we don't, but that would make it more exciting if he was.
SPEAKER_01
01:50:49 - 01:51:47
Sure, it would be. Of course it would be. And that's why that's why they refer to it on the such because it pumps up the story. Of course. And people don't tell everybody what they said. He, I mean, it's a disparaging book about the Trump administration. I don't even want to give it any time because I don't think it's deserving, but not that there's things you couldn't talk about, but I just, I have this thing about people who walk out of an administration regardless of which one or walk out of an agency or wherever and write a fucking book. I have a problem with it. Just shut your gap, right? And it's part of the gig, right? Yeah. And don't, you know, if you didn't get enough hugs and you'll come out and you want to, you know, beat your own drum with a, you know, that just don't, I don't know. We've gotten way too past the old point where people will just finish a job and you never ever knew, you know, that, you know, that they, this is too many opportunities for opportunists. I sound like Wilford, but I'm like what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00
01:51:47 - 01:52:05
There's too many opportunities for opportunities these days. And I understand if you're a guy who works at fucking NBC or something, you want to write a tell-all book about whatever. But this is not what we're talking about. You're talking about somebody who works at the highest levels of government. You're supposed to have, don't they sign NDAs?
SPEAKER_01
01:52:05 - 01:52:40
Yeah, and you're supposed to, and you know, like as an example, the agency has a, what they call a publication's review board. So if you're going to, You're gonna finish up with the outfit and you get out and you think, oh my god, I don't know how I book it. I know a handful of folks who did and they were very good book but they don't talk about, it's not a tell-all, it's not a, and they're not disclosing sources and methods. But the point being is they've got the PRB and so you have to submit your transcript and then you go through it and sometimes you'll edit things out and sometimes they won't. But you're supposed, the idea that you come out and you had a unsatisfactory experience and you want to complain about shit.
SPEAKER_00
01:52:40 - 01:53:48
a little distasteful. It's distasteful. Yeah. Just two things that I want to talk to you about before we got in here with Sazi election in no particular order. Aliens and George Soros. They might be connected. But both of those things, I find particularly fascinating. I never knew that about you. The George Soros thing just keeps coming up over and over and over again where people that I know that are very intelligent and some that are very connected. say that he's funding a lot of these antifa rallies and protests and chaos and that they're funding the political campaigns of people that are opposed to putting people in jail and that are promoting air quotes social justice and all of these reforms and all of these political movements that seem to be deteriorating the trust and law enforcement and that there's some sort of organized campaign by him to do something to destroy the fabric of our democracy.
SPEAKER_01
01:53:48 - 01:53:51
Yeah, sort of the one world government run by George Soros.
SPEAKER_00
01:53:51 - 01:53:54
That's the Batman villain story line.
SPEAKER_01
01:53:54 - 01:54:29
Yeah, I think the truth is less exciting or interesting. I think he's He puts a lot of money into a handful of organizations and that money gets funneled out for various purposes, campaigns, supporting organizations. There's no doubt I think that his worldview is somewhat different than mine. But I don't think that Soros is, you know, running some campaign to take down America.
SPEAKER_00
01:54:29 - 01:54:33
I think that's- Why do you think people are so attracted to that ideas? Because of Batman movies?
SPEAKER_01
01:54:34 - 01:54:40
Everybody loves a big villain. He's a evil-looking guy. I mean, again, hey, I don't mean that wrong, but you know, no offense.
SPEAKER_00
01:54:40 - 01:54:42
No offense. There look like you could be in Star Wars.
SPEAKER_01
01:54:42 - 01:54:46
Yeah. He's, yeah, he's got that look about him.
SPEAKER_00
01:54:46 - 01:54:50
You can see him in a black robe. Yeah. You know, you're direct.
SPEAKER_01
01:54:50 - 01:54:58
You know, it doesn't look like that. He could do something about those bags in their eyes.
SPEAKER_00
01:54:58 - 01:55:26
He doesn't want it. He's got billions of dollars. What gets a person's rocks off when they have that much money and they're still trying to make more money and they're basically I mean how old is he? He's got to be in his 80's right he's he's in the home stretch 90's 90 90 90 90 he's in the home stretch kids Does it say how much money he's given away of his worth 8.6 billion?
SPEAKER_03
01:55:26 - 01:55:33
I don't know about given away He's not given anything. I think donated more than 32 billion to the open society foundation according to Wikipedia
SPEAKER_00
01:55:33 - 01:55:36
Wow, he's worth eight. He's only 32. That's a man committed.
SPEAKER_01
01:55:36 - 01:56:02
Yeah. And see, that's part of this. That's crazy. The connection to open society. I think it's probably what helps to fuel it. But, I mean, you got a guy that, what does that mean? He's an old, easy, what do you call it? He's an easy, easy foil, an easy target to be in, I mean, it's like the coke brothers. There's no difference, right? It's just one side blames the coke brothers for, you know, trying to take over America and one side blames Soros.
SPEAKER_00
01:56:03 - 01:56:05
What is that organization, Jamie?
SPEAKER_01
01:56:05 - 01:56:09
Open Society.
SPEAKER_00
01:56:09 - 01:56:28
Open Society Foundation support individuals and organizations across the globe fighting for freedom of expression, accountable government, and societies that promote justice in the quality. Well, that sounds good. That sounds good. That sounds confusing. Yeah. So all these people that think he's evil. Truth and justice. I mean, but if I was going to be evil, I would hide behind something like that. Sounds like a problem.
SPEAKER_01
01:56:28 - 01:56:47
And you can imagine some of that money getting eventually funneled, making its way to organizations. I'm not saying it's happening, but an organization like Antifa, whatever. You know, the theory being, oh, now we're trying to promote, you know, If you wrap yourself in the cloak of promoting equality and justice, most people aren't going to push back because they don't want to look like a dick, right?
SPEAKER_00
01:56:47 - 01:56:48
You do a lot of shit.
SPEAKER_01
01:56:48 - 01:57:26
Yeah, so you don't, you don't, you know, but anybody who's against this is like, this is one of my things. If you're going to give money to an organization, you know, do a little investigating first, find out how much of it goes into people's pockets and actually where the money it goes and what it's used for. sometimes it's easier than not, and if it's difficult to find that information now, give your money somewhere else, because it should be transparency around any operation that's asking you for a donation or for your money, but Soros, when he funnels that money and makes its way through, it's like a chinko machine, it's kicking all over the place, so it's no surprise.
SPEAKER_00
01:57:26 - 01:57:39
So do you think it's just that It's an easy target for someone who's looking for like one person who's the puppet master who's pulling all the strings right everybody loves It's a simplistic way of looking at things.
SPEAKER_01
01:57:39 - 01:57:57
Yeah, and I'm not saying that so it shouldn't fund in groups that wouldn't piss people off. I guess, but you know There's more to it. There's more to it than that. But it's like, you know, it's like that the Kennedy assassination, nobody wanted to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald could do something as an individual that was so horrific. All right.
SPEAKER_00
01:57:57 - 01:58:01
Now you're going to lose me. If you really think you did that by himself with fucking conversations over.
SPEAKER_01
01:58:01 - 01:58:07
No, I'm not saying that he did it by himself when I'm saying is that people don't want to think that, right? Because it's true.
SPEAKER_00
01:58:07 - 01:58:07
So you, right?
SPEAKER_01
01:58:07 - 01:58:10
But you close out the possibility that it could be true.
SPEAKER_00
01:58:10 - 01:58:11
Are you saying it's true?
SPEAKER_01
01:58:11 - 01:58:12
I'm saying that there's a possibility.
SPEAKER_00
01:58:12 - 01:58:15
There's not a fucking way in hell. I'm saying there's a possibility. What about the bullet?
SPEAKER_01
01:58:15 - 01:58:19
You can't take that off. You can't take off the table. The magic bullet.
SPEAKER_00
01:58:19 - 01:58:26
You can't take that right off the table because it was on a table. It was actually on the gurney that Connelly was rolled in on. Oh look, we found the bullet. Case closed.
SPEAKER_01
01:58:28 - 01:59:00
I guess my point though before we descend into the madness is that you don't want to remove options when you're looking and if you can't say I mean maybe you can't say if you can say a hundred percent there's no doubt I say I'm not I'm not closing the door on on the percentage chance that Lee Harvey Oswell did that on his own for his own reasons and his own resources and ability to do it. I will say the MLK, Martin Luther King assassination is one where if I have to say, look, there's definitely shit here.
SPEAKER_00
01:59:00 - 01:59:50
We talked about that before and it does seem like there's shit there. What it seems to me is that the CIA definitely killed Kennedy and that's why you are making it seem like it's most likely that what else do you think I want to do? I'm kidding when I say that. that fucking magic bullet theory only a child who's never shot a gun understands or or would look at that theory and think it makes sense if you shot a gun before if you if you know what happens on bullets hit bone there's no fucking way look at that thing come the fuck on that shot through two people shattered bone in the the wrist of connelly looks pretty clean yeah get the fuck out and wound up magically in the gurney and oh by the way there's more bullet fragments in connelly's body than we're missing from that bullet so fuck you
SPEAKER_01
01:59:51 - 02:00:10
Well, I'm just saying, I'm just saying that. Until they close that case completely, and nobody ever has completely. But I guess I get going back to a bigger point if I had one. We'll put that bullet up one more time. Oh, here it goes. Here comes that drawing. This is the official government drawing. See, like this.
SPEAKER_00
02:00:10 - 02:01:11
Here's the thing that's wrong with that though. Sorry, I'm not going to answer. The thing that's wrong with that picture? Yes, I did. The photo showed that picture again. Yeah. And here's what people don't understand why this is not as ridiculous as the bullet. Because bullets do weird shit when they hit things. And I know a guy who, oh, I put this shot a person in war in the face. And the bullet literally came out the same way it went in. Went in the guy's head, ricochet around the skull and came out the front. Yeah, I've seen yeah forensics on on that same crazy ship happens when bullets hit but they don't it's not that crazy They don't come out looking like that. That's not a bullet that shattered bone. It's just not it's but and people with all the bullets way more distorted than that that particular images a deceptive angle Fuck you. Yeah, that's it's just fuck you.
SPEAKER_01
02:01:11 - 02:01:13
Not a lot of deception. Oh, look at that.
SPEAKER_00
02:01:13 - 02:01:14
See.
SPEAKER_01
02:01:14 - 02:01:17
Oh, you have a slightly got it. You got a little dent there.
SPEAKER_00
02:01:17 - 02:01:29
They shot that fucking thing into a swimming pool kids. He's not a chance in hell. They went through a couple of people. Oh, look, see, see, see, see, see. The tip. You can see some of the lead.
SPEAKER_01
02:01:29 - 02:01:53
But my point, my overall point, should I have one, is that with Soros. I mean, people like You know, that's why conspiracy theories and other things exist, right? And continue to exist is because it's a fascinating concept. It's a fascinating story. You can look at source and go, yes, you're running from a secret layer somewhere under a volcano, an effort to take down the America. That's one theory.
SPEAKER_00
02:01:58 - 02:02:19
Anyway, we're all programmed by movies, right? These narratives that there is one secret evil person that wants everything to go down and those those narratives they they're very compelling and we've we've had them in our lives for so long. So many people have these sort of simplistic portraits of the world and they they've adopted because of movies
SPEAKER_01
02:02:20 - 02:02:26
Yeah, and we want we like a beginning of middle of an end of people like things to to be all wrapped up, right?
SPEAKER_00
02:02:26 - 02:03:14
But we see that picture of the bullet with a goat. That was a little disturbing. The bullet went that a similar bullet went through a goat. That one of the bottom. I had no idea. I had a bullet fired through a goat. Most closely duplicating, Connelly's chest wounds. Not just his chest wounds, you fucks is risk too. went into, and then it just the fact they found it on his gurney. Oh, yeah. Whoops. We found it. Under no circumstance, do I feel that this bullet could have hit a wrist and still not be deformed? We proved that by experiments. Chief Consultant and Woon Ballistic for the US Army who supervised tests for the Warren Commission. Exactly. Yeah. That other, that other photo if it did go through a goat, let me tell you something, kids, that fucking thing got a pass through. It probably went right in between the ribs. And even then I don't buy it because it probably hit the ground somewhere.
SPEAKER_01
02:03:14 - 02:03:18
I said to be that goat. One day you're out there eating grass and ivy.
SPEAKER_00
02:03:18 - 02:04:47
How about how about they did it through a hundred goats until they got a bullet. Exactly. This is what we're looking for. Even then I think it's horseshot. I've shot animals before. When you shoot an animal with a bullet man, those bullets come out super deformed. Yeah, of course. They mushroom. They come out looking great because bullets aren't supposed. Here's the thing for people to understand. Bullets are designed to change shape when they hit things because it does more damage. So when you see a bullet that's mushroomed out, the impact of that bullet hitting an animal forces it to mushroom out, it creates a lot of trauma and shock and that's what kills the animal. A bullet that goes through something like that would create like a pencil hole. It wouldn't do nearly as much damage. It would be far less effective and they would re-engineer the bullet to have more of a deformity when it hits things because there's a value in bullets deforming when they hit things. That value as it creates a deeper, a more functional damage. But let's don't act like that. The only exception, and this is a recent exception, they use solid copper bullets in some cases. And even those solid copper bullets, they get to mushroom out. Because I shot an elk in California with a rifle, and we use copper bullets. Because California has laws against law. Of course, yeah. And I have the bullet at home. It came out all fucked up with that.
SPEAKER_03
02:04:47 - 02:04:48
There's the other bullets to happen.
SPEAKER_00
02:04:49 - 02:04:50
Oh, they did the same thing with?
SPEAKER_03
02:04:50 - 02:04:58
Yeah. I guess they were found evidence. At the scene, fragment of bullet that fatally wounded the president would be this one.
SPEAKER_00
02:04:58 - 02:05:20
Yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. It's a fucking chunk that looks like it exploded. The other one looks perfect. But like the other thing that drives me crazy is people say, well, then, and to only in the other way, they say, well, the scope on the rifle didn't even, wasn't even lined up right. Well, how the fuck do you know it wasn't lined up right? Oh, if it was drop a rifle and the scope is off.
SPEAKER_01
02:05:21 - 02:05:26
Yeah, it's exactly right and also it was a very easy shot. I mean, I will say that wasn't that hard. No, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_00
02:05:26 - 02:05:31
Everybody says no one could have made that shot. Like I could have made that shot. You got it.
SPEAKER_01
02:05:31 - 02:05:35
I'm not even good. You got a slow moving vehicle moving away from you in line.
SPEAKER_00
02:05:35 - 02:05:55
Exactly. Exactly. No wind and you have a red light your off-rass gear. You're meaning off the window. Yeah. That 100% could have been made by a person. Yeah. Yeah. And not just one shot, I think they could have gone off all three. I think that's provable too. I think especially you're all jacked up with adrenaline and you've been practicing racking those bullets in there. You could have got it off.
SPEAKER_01
02:05:55 - 02:06:17
Yeah. That part of it is, you know, I think that is easy to understand. Again, I'm, I'm, you know, not to not to disappear down that rabbit hole. I do find it always interesting because I'm which I'm still fascinated by the Martin Luther King thing because it's It's a rare day when I look at something and go, you know, that really is horseshit there.
SPEAKER_00
02:06:17 - 02:06:28
When you were talking about how James Earl Ray, the guy who shot Martin Luther King, was funded, like clearly he was a loser, had nothing going on in his life.
SPEAKER_01
02:06:28 - 02:07:23
We talked about this before, right? Yeah, he just said, you know, a petty criminal and not a good one, right? Always caught. Always caught. And, you know, then suddenly he manages to reinvent himself, goes on the road, disappears, lays low, comes out, you know, looks like a professor, you know, he ends up in Europe after the shooting, you know, bisec a Mustang, you know, for cash, you know, more cash and the kid probably are the guy I probably ever saw. It's just, there's too many things here that just make it look like that. I'm not a, again, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I look at that one and I go over all these years and we weren't able to kind of get to the bottom of it, you know, speaks to sort of the, I don't know, just a sinister nature of it, I think.
SPEAKER_00
02:07:25 - 02:08:54
I would never say I'm not a conspiracy guy because I love conspiracies. I think they're awesome. There's so much fun. But I don't buy all of them. I think there's a lot of new bullshit. But a lot of them are real. That's the problem with the term conspiracy theorist. People don't ever want to be called a conspiracy theorist because it makes you look like a fool. Fortunately for me, everyone knows them a fool. So I can say that I enjoy it. I can enjoy conspiracies. But I also could say if I'm being honest, I know that for sure, people have conspired to do things. In particular, when you're talking about in the 1960s, there's a tremendous amount of evidence that people conspired to do a lot of different things. I mean, there's so much evidence that, you know, there's like, first of all, the Gulf of Tonka incident that got us into the Vietnam War. That's a conspiracy. That's a proven conspiracy. They lied about attacks on America so that they get us into the Vietnam War. Yeah. That's a conspiracy. How about Operation Northwoods? That's a conspiracy signed by the joint chiefs of staff. They were going to fake attacks on American civilians. They were going to blow up a drone jetliner, blame it on Cuba. They were going to arm Cuban friendlies and attack Wantanamo Bay signed by the joint chiefs of staff vetoed by Kennedy. That is a conspiracy. This is all during that same time period.
SPEAKER_01
02:08:54 - 02:09:08
Yeah. I don't even know if a conspiracy is a right word for it. It's a plant. It's a plant. That's an operational plan, right? And then they can aspire to do it. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Fine. All right. Does that what a conspiracy is? I guess that is a conspiracy.
SPEAKER_00
02:09:08 - 02:09:12
The problem is the term. Yeah. Yeah. The term makes you seem like a fucking idiot.
SPEAKER_01
02:09:12 - 02:09:12
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
02:09:12 - 02:09:55
Like you're putting on a devil hat and so serious people, which fortunately for me, I'm not one of those serious people that want to be taken seriously, they tend to shy away from the conspiracy. Yeah. But I smoke a lot of marijuana, and so I like those conspiracies. I find them attractive. I go, huh? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think so. Where they said they've recovered alien crafts. They said we have recovered crafts that are not from this world.
SPEAKER_01
02:09:55 - 02:10:02
Is that exactly what they said? Pull it up young. Pull that up that exact quote from. It's a sketch into God.
SPEAKER_00
02:10:02 - 02:10:14
It's actually. That was the guy from Vegas. The guy from Nevada. What is this name? Was he a senator? From Nevada. Harry Reid. Harry Reid. Harry Reid.
SPEAKER_03
02:10:14 - 02:10:18
Someone there. Former senator. Pentagon former contractor was the one that said it.
SPEAKER_01
02:10:18 - 02:10:35
Oh, you're thinking of. Yeah, you're thinking of. He's got an aerospace business out there that was funded and part by taxpayer money that it was a sort of a pet project of Harry Reid's in the sense. I'm struggling to remember the guy's name. I should remember it because we we've talked about it earlier.
SPEAKER_00
02:10:35 - 02:10:35
No.
SPEAKER_01
02:10:36 - 02:10:40
No. Aerospace buddy of Harry Reads. Can we Google that?
SPEAKER_00
02:10:40 - 02:10:43
Is that the skinwalker ranch guy?
SPEAKER_01
02:10:43 - 02:10:56
No. No, this is, this guy is, they've actually still got a business. He's still developing, right now I think what he's trying to do is develop portable living.
SPEAKER_00
02:10:56 - 02:11:03
Yeah, that is the skinwalker ranch guy. That is, right? That is the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The names on the tip of my tongue.
SPEAKER_01
02:11:03 - 02:11:39
I know. But if he's the one who said it, then, yeah, it doesn't come from the government, you know, the A-Tip, which is at advanced aeronautical threat identification program. I mean, the, I think the most interesting thing that the government has come out and said is that, yes, we did have a, we did have an open operation within the Pentagon and office within the Pentagon. I thought, you know, that was there to identify unidentified threats, right? So we get something up in the air and, and we can identify it's like the tick, the tick tack, uh, sightings by David Fraver.
SPEAKER_00
02:11:39 - 02:12:17
Yeah, and those guys. So David Fraver, for anybody who wants to, who's interested in this, please listen to him on the Lex Friedman podcast. Because I had him on, but I had him on with Jeremy Corbell, who's the documentarian behind that Robles R movie. And by himself, Fraver and Lex, they get deep into the technical specifications of their aircraft. why he believes that no known aircraft could have ever operated the way it is, and also how it was blocking their tracking devices, which is technically it's an active war, but also it showed that it was a it was aware of them.
SPEAKER_01
02:12:17 - 02:13:02
Yeah, he's very credible. Yes, extremely credible. He's an easy good guy. I've talked to him a handful of times of satin reviewed the gun camera footage with him. He's walked through it. very credible right so that was kind of that was a perfect example of why they had set up a tip right within the Pentagon um apparently not funded any more as an as an operating office because they probably got some new shit that they can't tell you about because that one got out there to close it down that's a New York Times where to do that is what they do right well I mean or you're reallocate the You know, it's all on the budgets, which is, again, kind of why we do this, this show for science, you know, called blackfalls, because we're chasing the bugs. I finally got to that. I know, right? He's crazy.
SPEAKER_00
02:13:02 - 02:13:03
I know.
SPEAKER_01
02:13:03 - 02:14:09
I got like that. I got like two other promos to do. I haven't even touched yet. So I can help people who think, wow, he's really slow this time. But yeah, if you follow the money, it's like an investigation, right? If you, and not so much following my, but if you, if you start pulling on those threads around budgets or It's like with investigation and asset tracing, getting bank records is absolutely key if you can legally get them during the course of an investigation, but with military operations, oftentimes those budgets for the most interesting projects and operational elements. get buried into something else. That's just the way it works, right? And so that's where you maintain secrecy. To maintain secrecy, but that's, it's an exercise and we don't obviously, with black files, we don't identify anything that's currently classified because we'd all end up in the Who's Gal, but we're looking at some pretty interesting things and it speaks to where programs are going currently, right? You look at some things in the recent past and you say, okay, this is where this new development is heading.
SPEAKER_00
02:14:10 - 02:14:35
And it's an interesting conversation, too, because for people that don't like secrecy, and they don't think we should have secrecy, for national security, and for the development of things, you know, like the stealth bomber, like a lot of other things that show that we have military superiority over our enemies, it's important to have secrecy.
SPEAKER_01
02:14:35 - 02:16:17
Oh, yeah, absolutely. You can't function as a secure and safe and lasting Republic without it, right? There's just no way. Now, you know, people will say, oh, we should have transparency around everything. No, no, you got to draw the line. You got to, you want to not overdo it, right? So you want to, that's where I was going to get to. Right. But let me redo it part. But you've got to have the ability to protect sources and methods. You've had to have a sort of a need to know policy around certain things right within national security concerns in the hotel and intelligence community But yeah again, it's it can be used as a weapon, you know, you can over again over do it and But if you don't have security you don't have the Manhattan Project right no absolutely yeah, we don't I mean you don't have many things yeah, you think about you think about you think about China, look at this, I'm not deep into the show and I'm just now bashing China for their theft of economic intelligence, but you look at the effort that they make in terms of stealing our intellectual property and research and development. The idea that you don't protect your most critical information, whether it's operationally important or whether it's just, again, R&D for development of materials and that speaks to the strength of your economy and So yes, certain things have to be kept secret. But again, you can overclassify things, which tends to happen, it tend to just because you're trying to protect everything. So I'm just going to overclassify and that also creates a problem. So trying to strike a balance, it's a human endeavor. So you never really get it right. I don't think.
SPEAKER_00
02:16:17 - 02:17:33
Well, this is where people feel like the line when it comes to alien spacecrafts. And if the government knows and is aware of alien spacecrafts and alien technology, this is where the line of secrecy and being sworn to oath, where it crosses over into a need to do for the general public. Bob was our story. The story about him working for S4. He was a physicist for Los Alamos Labs. That's been proven. He was on the employee list there. He also was listed in a newspaper article when he put a jet engine in a Honda that he was a physicist at Los Alamos Labs, and he was a propulsion expert, says he worked for Area S4 and says he was hired to back engineer UFOs and says they never could figure out how these things worked. and that they were never going to because they really couldn't because they were trying to keep everything secret. They couldn't share all this information with the general scientific community. And he's like science doesn't work in these containment bubbles. You can't compartmentalize science and have only the, these, a few small propulsion experts sit around and try to figure this thing out and then they fire and bring new guys in and no one ever gets it.
SPEAKER_01
02:17:33 - 02:19:39
Which is what you can use against it. If I'm trying to pull information out of another nation, if I'm targeting intelligence from developing some new ballistic missile system or whatever it is, propulsion system, then yes, I'm going to play off of that desire on the part of engineers and scientists to have a collaborative community. And the Chinese do that very well, right? And particularly when they target Chinese Americans working here in the U.S. and potentially sensitive positions, you know, this idea that we're all working together, you know, and this is just what we should be doing. You know, we've done, my, my company has done work trying to protect information for companies, pharmaceutical companies as a good example. where the scientists, the engineers, the doctors need that free flow in their mind. They've got to have this free flow in this collaborating and the sharing of information. And meanwhile, you get the other side where the beam counters and security personnel and all that. And there's going like, no, this is the lifeblood of our company. We can't risk losing this information. So we've got to lock it down to the degree we can. Those two things don't necessarily coexist all that well together, but you've got to try to find some medium. So yeah, I think You know, there's the the the fact that the government came out and talked about a tip and that was a big step, right. That's a big deal for them, right. I mean that that they would discuss that. Do I think that they're hiding? Again, I don't take anything I wouldn't take anything off the table, frankly, because I don't know. So it would be stupid of me to say, no, they definitely aren't holding on to some propulsion system that isn't of this world or whatever. If I don't know it, I can't say absolutely not. But wouldn't you want to know though? Oh sure. Yeah. Yeah. But how do you, I mean, you know, what do you do? I mean, Greece a few palms.
SPEAKER_00
02:19:39 - 02:19:42
Is that it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:19:42 - 02:19:45
I want to see it. Yeah. I guess you can do that.
SPEAKER_00
02:19:45 - 02:19:53
I'd let the government know right now. Listen. Yeah. I'll say a lot of shit. It's not true. Just get me to the UFO. Show me the UFOs and I'll lie.
SPEAKER_01
02:19:57 - 02:20:13
I'm telling you right now don't tell me now lying if you tell me I'm telling everybody they know that they know that they're right in the downright now whatever happens happens but it's too bad but I agree with anybody it was interested
SPEAKER_00
02:20:15 - 02:21:14
you know pay attention to to uh... look at this a handful of interviews with uh... flavor command of flavor yes uh... it's but the left for one is my favorite it's because they go on for a think it's three and a half hours it's really good they talk about all kinds of things about flying in pilots and And the fact that you always have the same two pilots working together, piloting a co-pilot, and they, you know, in the military, it's very different than civilian airliners, that these guys work together, they understand each other, and they develop sort of the way Lex described it, a sort of a mind-meld between the two. It's a really good interview and he goes into depth about also the criticisms by these debunkers that don't understand the equipment They don't understand what they're saying when they're when they're trying to debunk it they're debunking in a preposterous way they really don't understand what what happened that thing that they followed went from 60,000 feet down to one feet above sea level in less than a second yeah, and it's not like it wasn't picked up on radar
SPEAKER_01
02:21:14 - 02:21:27
It's not like just one person or the guys in that particular platform that saw it. So yeah, it's a really compelling fascinating example of this.
SPEAKER_00
02:21:27 - 02:22:44
still unexplained right obviously still unexplained and when Fraver talked about it when he first saw it he was communicating with the other people that were were on the other end of the radio and they were saying we are in contact with these things all the time we see these things every few weeks yeah they don't know what the fuck it is and he was going he described it in depth I'm doing a disservice by pair phrasing him but he was saying okay guys what what the fuck is this and they were saying yeah exactly right and we've been seeing these every couple weeks we'll see one we don't know what it is we have no idea it was well aware that they were following it it blocked their tracking turned and face them and no no sign of no no visible sign of a propulsion system no signatures no nothing and then moved off in the same rate of speed to the point where they couldn't track with the human eye and disappeared and then reappeared 30 miles away Like, they were saying the way the thing moved, they can't explain it. And they think there's something under the water as well. I think it was, it was hovering over the water and there was actually something that was actually under the water. Yeah. So it's dolphin. It could be up going like with the box. The boss, boss octopus. It's pulling the levers.
SPEAKER_01
02:22:45 - 02:23:15
Yeah, I, you know, again, it is. It's fun. It's fun, man. It's fun. And it, but I do I think that there's, you know, aliens that they come periodically visit and just observe and go, fuck this and then leave. you know, it does raise the question as to why we if they've actually visited and they've been here are they just as for observation and they get fed up with the way we act and well I think if you were observing another advanced civilizations like say if we like
SPEAKER_00
02:23:15 - 02:23:16
But here's a good idea.
SPEAKER_01
02:23:16 - 02:23:36
I will say that. I mean, it's all relative, right? Because if, if we're looking at that, we say, OK, say the TikTok was, was, you know, from some other world, then them looking at us. They're not going to go, look at us and go. Well, it's in advance to, so it was a course they would. Yeah, I think they'd look at us and go like, OK, it's some rudimentary life. But see, I don't buy that.
SPEAKER_00
02:23:36 - 02:23:43
They don't think so. No, because we study fucking butterflies. Yeah. How many asshole spend most of their life looking at bugs?
SPEAKER_01
02:23:43 - 02:23:47
Or maybe to whatever this is. We're nothing more than a butterfly.
SPEAKER_00
02:23:47 - 02:25:08
Right. And so why wouldn't they observe us the way we observe bugs? People spend their whole life tracking sloths. They really do. There's a lot of people that spend their whole life studying plants. The idea that we, if we found an advanced life form, say if we went to another planet and we found some early Neanderthal types that were just starting to use Flint tools, we would study them hard. We would be fascinated. Even if they were like, oh my god, they're like 300,000 years behind where we are right now. We would still follow them up badly. Yeah, but we would follow media and I think one of the things we would do is we would probably try to do it secretly the same way we do with indigenous tribes like North Sentinel Island that's that island off the Indian Ocean that has a small population of people who think it's down to like 39 people And it's like against international law to visit. And that one guy went and visited a couple of years ago and they lit them up with arrows. I remember that guy. He's going to show him Jesus came out with a Bible. That's a perfect example. You're not supposed to go there. And those are human beings, just like you were me. But they have the misfortune of developing on this very small island where their ancestors left Africa 60,000 years ago.
SPEAKER_01
02:25:09 - 02:25:15
Some people might look at what we're going through right now this past week and think it's not such a misfortune.
SPEAKER_00
02:25:15 - 02:26:01
It's like I'm pretty good. Well, with that, I think there's a lot of in-breeding, just such a small genetic sample, just a small genetic group to draw from. But I think that if aliens came here from another planet first of all, they would know for sure that we already split the atom. They would know that we have the power of nuclear weapons and that we have enough nuclear weapons aimed at each other to decimate all life on Earth multiple times over. I think that would think that's pretty fucking advanced. They would know that we can send video through the sky. They would know that we can capture time in the form of pictures and and film. I think they would be aware that we're on the cusp of some pretty wild shit. We're sending Tesla's into space that are currently zooming around Mars.
SPEAKER_01
02:26:01 - 02:26:26
I just went through that. I took my truck to the car wash the other day in Boisean. There was a Tesla that was sitting over on the side and the lady was giving the manager hell because she'd taken her Tesla through the car wash and it like knocked off the the side view mirror and it was clearly a new car for her and you know she couldn't even take it to the car wash without losing a piece or a part and I thought it wasn't a good ad for Tesla frankly, but you know
SPEAKER_00
02:26:27 - 02:26:29
What kind of car wash when them automatic ones?
SPEAKER_01
02:26:29 - 02:26:32
Yeah, it was a day where they called a touchless car wash.
SPEAKER_00
02:26:32 - 02:26:43
Those things should be brutal. But I have a Tesla. They're well made, man. Yeah. I think that car wash is a piece of shit car wash. So you've turned it around. I see what's going to happen.
SPEAKER_01
02:26:47 - 02:26:52
There you go. You'll be careful when you do that. Yeah. Yeah. Bring those side view mirrors in. I think that's actually in the end.
SPEAKER_00
02:26:52 - 02:26:53
I think it gets a bite.
SPEAKER_01
02:26:53 - 02:26:57
It's in the manual. If you turn, if you go in the manual, but it says before you go through a car wash.
SPEAKER_00
02:26:57 - 02:27:01
Yeah, but bring those mirrors. I went to the car wash. I was a shit. I let them get slopped around.
SPEAKER_01
02:27:03 - 02:27:22
I didn't do anything, they're fine. I almost went to the car washroom town with one of my dogs in the back of the car. Because I completely forgot, you know, running a couple of chores and there's his hand ricks in the back of the truck, and I said, don't go there in the guy waving down and says, you're talking to that. He's dirty.
SPEAKER_00
02:27:22 - 02:27:24
Kill two birds with one stone. It'd be fine.
SPEAKER_01
02:27:24 - 02:27:28
Water and soap, dogs gonna be fine. Big hundred and twenty pound retriever.
SPEAKER_00
02:27:28 - 02:27:29
He knows that a handle. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:27:29 - 02:27:36
Jesus Christ, relax, car wash guy. I know. Oh my God. We got, we got it. We got it. You got pet, you got pets.
SPEAKER_00
02:27:36 - 02:27:37
You got pets. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:27:37 - 02:27:42
And they're the best. Yeah, fantastic. We've got now. We've got, we've got, we've got that one week.
SPEAKER_00
02:27:42 - 02:27:48
Here's a hundred and twenty pounds. Big boy. That's a huge retriever. He's a big ass dog. Would you feed them CIA steroids?
SPEAKER_01
02:27:49 - 02:28:04
We do, yeah. Yeah, because I still get those. I haven't been in for a while, but you know, that's, I think the world of the director, because they still send me that shit. So yeah, so then we got a, we got this big, uh, where they call them golden doodles, right?
SPEAKER_00
02:28:04 - 02:28:04
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01
02:28:04 - 02:28:59
And she's supposed to be small. She's getting to be taller and bigger than he is. So she's, she's like six or seven months old and she's a monster already. Really? And then we got, now we got another, one of our cats die or our last cat die. And so we thought, okay, that's it. We're going to simplify life. And then we were at the store and they had like a rescue cat thing going on. And so we ended up with a rescue cat. And then we were out and a fox got in the barn, killed this mama cat and all the kittens. And there was only one survivor. This was just a couple of weeks ago. So now we got like this entourage again, right? Because now we kept this kitten and I thought we can't keep this little tiny, you know, it's like a two week old kitten. We've been bowel feeding this thing now for the past two and a half weeks and it's cute. It's a very cute and it's a tough set of a bitch, right? It's going to be a great cat around the house, but it's just like now I'm waiting to get like a farm duck and a chicken and a goat and people have love hate relationships with foxes.
SPEAKER_00
02:28:59 - 02:29:08
because they're beautiful, they're kind of cool, they like to hang around people, but they will kill you fucking cat, they'll kill you chickens, they'll kill a lot of them. It's a fucking circle of life.
SPEAKER_01
02:29:08 - 02:29:24
It's a huge amount of birds, those domestic cats kill, holy shit, that's all they do. Yeah, so one of those things, an animal killing another animal, unless it's like some abused fighting dog that has been Yeah, and while it it's just a way of work.
SPEAKER_00
02:29:24 - 02:30:06
It's just a circle of life. Yeah, I watched a really bizarre documentary on vice the other day about cats in Australia and one of these guys his whole house was filled with stuffed cats and he has stuffed cats like you take the head off and it's like a fucking mation jar And he has cats. He takes the cats and he skins them. And he makes coats and jackets and hats out of them. So this guy's wearing like a cat hat and a cat jacket. And he's got dead cats all over his house. But what he, any, he has a book with a meticulous detail of every cat he's ever killed. Well, this is the thing. You know, the situation with cats and Australian. Well, the Feral cats. Yeah, I used to work on the sheep station. Oh, Australia.
SPEAKER_01
02:30:06 - 02:30:18
Oh, Miller, nowhere. And so yeah, you'd go be, you'd be working the fence line of repairing fences. Put your hand down all of a sudden. Yeah, I didn't wear gloves, right? Put the hand in all of a sudden. It's like this little cat. It come out of nowhere, right? Some burrow.
SPEAKER_00
02:30:18 - 02:31:26
Yeah, this is the guy. So he's got these stuffed cats all over his house. Look at this. He's his whole fucking house is filled with cats. He's a cat killer. I mean, this is, and I know, look, I have cats. It's a total full-end folder. That's got a lot of different things to use this cats for. Yeah. I'm not anti-cat. I just want everybody to know. But these are federal cats that were introduced to Australia. I forget what they're introduced to kill off. But the problem is they bred at a spectacular rate and they've become a huge problem for the native species. So they've they've decimated and sent into extinction a bunch of ground nesting birds and all sorts of different animals. And so that was down there's a bounty on wild cats, feral cats in Australia and this gentleman He's making a good love my skins them which is really weird like he doesn't just kill him and in the video you see him shoot him and skin up me so he traps them He I think there's other people in this video that run around hunting them and well, is there more way the one way to skin a cat then did he answer that question?
SPEAKER_01
02:31:27 - 02:31:49
Yeah, like everybody was wondering that's where it came from I think it's where it came from so this is all the I think we're not because of the rabbits. I think they were trying to solve a rabbit problem I think you might be right me while they kill all these lizards and bugs Yeah, yeah, no, they're they're all over the place and people say a kitten and they just like they launched themselves at you and they're that's crazy fucking mean
SPEAKER_00
02:31:50 - 02:32:07
They're also kept as pets in Australia, which is really weird. One of the major invasive species that causing detrimental effects to indigenous wildlife due to predation for biosecurity reasons, any cats that are imported to Australia must meet conditions set by the department of agriculture, fisheries, and forestry. I wonder what those conditions are.
SPEAKER_01
02:32:08 - 02:32:22
Yeah, you gotta cut their teeth out. Yeah, it's gonna say I got the teeth removed in the claws removed Yeah, Australia. It's full of it's like the Everglades Everything down there wants to want to kill you. Yeah, we want to bite you and kill you They're a good guy.
SPEAKER_00
02:32:22 - 02:32:23
They're wild people man.
SPEAKER_01
02:32:23 - 02:32:29
I tell you Everglades is a fascinating place. I don't know why I'm just now I'm talking about the Everglades people go. I want to fucking see talking about the Everglades.
SPEAKER_00
02:32:29 - 02:32:31
You know they found Nile crocodiles there now
SPEAKER_01
02:32:32 - 02:32:45
Yeah. They found a panther inside an alligator down there. Yeah. It's just crazy. I was thinking about that. I know, this all sorts of shit. I mean, it's amazing what you can find when you start reading about it. But that's a place where invasive species are a real problem. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00
02:32:45 - 02:32:46
Yeah. Python's.
SPEAKER_01
02:32:46 - 02:32:53
Yeah. Python's. And there's all series of other things that they've got cooking down there. But they caught a 20 footer of the other.
SPEAKER_00
02:32:53 - 02:33:01
Good God. Yeah. See if you can find that. Yeah. 20 foot Python. It's so thick. Yeah. It's like like a quarterbacks leg.
SPEAKER_01
02:33:02 - 02:33:05
They have these hunts down there, you know, in a little competition.
SPEAKER_00
02:33:05 - 02:33:06
I don't want to just try quarterback.
SPEAKER_01
02:33:06 - 02:33:16
Yeah, quarterback. It's a big disguise. You know what I saw so the other day, I saw Tom Brady in a buck and air as uniform. And it was kind of strange. It's weird, right? It is weird. It is weird.
SPEAKER_00
02:33:16 - 02:34:02
I was 18 foot. Look at the size of this fucker. Imagine. Look how fat that thing is. Imagine like seeing that. Look at the size of it. Now, meanwhile, here's the thing. Here's what's really ridiculous about California. Let's get back to California being stupid. They're an invasive species pythons and they're hunted and they have to be. They're trying to track them down and kill them. In fucking California, you can't even buy pythons skin things. These are things that your people are trying to kill. They're trying to kill them. So what happens if you kill them? You can't even use the resource of their skin to make handbags or shoes or belts or whatever. They want to allow you to import Python to California now.
SPEAKER_01
02:34:03 - 02:34:11
You probably have to say, and if you kill one, you probably have to take it to the fishing game department, right? And otherwise, if you dispose of it improperly, then you can be in Florida or something.
SPEAKER_00
02:34:11 - 02:34:31
Yeah, because they're in Florida that they're killing mostly things, but also alligators, similar situation. Alligators are they're not endangered species. They're in abundance. You can't buy alligators skin things in California anymore. Crocodile skin. Can't buy them anymore. Like, what the fuck is wrong with people?
SPEAKER_01
02:34:31 - 02:35:21
Well, but it's also, it's the continuing, like, it's interesting if you think about what the fuck is wrong with people. And then you see the rate of movement of citizens out of California and to other locations. Yeah, it's starting. And then you think about, okay, like, Georgia's a good example in this election, right? Georgia's turning, right? So Georgia's is may well end up having become a blue state. And they why? Well, people coming from out of state. We get that happening in Idaho. People coming in from out of state. And you'd like to think, again, going back to the very first thing we talked about self-awareness. You'd like to think they say, I'm leaving this place. It's got some problems. I'm going to go somewhere else. You know what, though? I'm not connecting the dots. I'm going to say that it has nothing to do with the way that I've voted in the past, I'm sure things will be fine here if I continue that.
SPEAKER_00
02:35:21 - 02:35:56
Yeah, well, that was the conversation I had with the governor last night. Oh, I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah. Texas is close to turning blue. And he's like, don't make this state what you've fled. And he makes some very good points and a lot of other people do too. economic freedom, the freedom to be an entrepreneur, the freedom to start businesses and not be over-regulated. All of those are real problems in California. They're giant problems. They impede business. California businesses succeed in spite of all the regulation, not because of all the regulation.
SPEAKER_01
02:35:56 - 02:37:05
And you can't, if you squash that entrepreneurial spirit, right? If you take away incentives, if you take away just the idea that you know what, maybe I got a great job, but I also got an idea. Maybe I want to pursue that idea, and see whether I can turn into a business. If you get rid of that by regulations or just by disinsentivizing people from starting a business or from creating something, it could be just a flash of an idea that they've got. You know, I don't know how I'm going to sound like I've got rose color glasses on, but that was part of the thing that makes this country so special. Yeah. And, you know, I do look at, I look at California and I look at the movement of people out of there and I, and, and Idaho again, being one of those places where a lot of folks end up, and you could see, you could see that happening. You could see suddenly, you know, business friendly state starting to turn. Yeah. And so yeah, it's if you if you don't like where you are and you're moving Maybe maybe look at the mirror and think about maybe I want something different maybe I should vote differently
SPEAKER_00
02:37:06 - 02:37:28
Well, one of the things that Governor Abbott was telling me is that fortunately there are a lot of people that are coming from California that are self-aware and are voting differently than they voted in the past because they're realizing what they've fled and they're actually voting for traditional Texas politics like the way it's always been here.
SPEAKER_01
02:37:29 - 02:37:30
It was relatively closer.
SPEAKER_00
02:37:30 - 02:37:31
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:37:31 - 02:37:37
I mean, I think they were expecting they spent a ton of money down here, right? On the races. And I think they were expecting that it was going to turn around.
SPEAKER_00
02:37:37 - 02:37:39
Territacks is blue. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:37:39 - 02:37:42
You know what? Just again, this idea that it had everywhere.
SPEAKER_00
02:37:42 - 02:37:44
Well, you're in the blue dot.
SPEAKER_01
02:37:44 - 02:37:49
This is the blue dot. Well, it's like voicy. Voicy is a blue dot in a red state.
SPEAKER_00
02:37:49 - 02:37:57
Yeah. I don't know about the hippies. Do you guys have to be called them hippies anymore? And you guys have grizzlies. You can take care of those hippies. I don't know. I'll try coming to go to the woods.
SPEAKER_01
02:37:58 - 02:38:02
You don't have to be the fastest one. You just have to be faster than the hippie.
SPEAKER_00
02:38:02 - 02:38:14
Just can't figure out a way to like, come on, you guys just see, yeah, you know how to infiltrate, just infiltrate those organizations to get them to go camping. Yeah, guys, we're going to do, we're going to have a love fest in the middle of this area.
SPEAKER_01
02:38:15 - 02:41:25
just and he's put pork chops around their neck because he was just gonna hang our meat up he that doesn't sound right but okay yeah hey speaking of entrepreneurs this is where I bring in a second promo it only take me a second buddy of mine did a great thing during the pandemic he Well, he's locked down. I think everybody in the lockdown thought I'm going to get myself in shape, or I'm going to read the Constitution finally, or I'm going to learn a new language or whatever. Right. Almost get jacked. Yeah, I want to get jacked. Most people didn't do it, though, to be fair, right? And we didn't do it because we were a day drinking because we had a home school of three knuckleheads. But it's a great guy, colleague of mine. Had an idea to develop a small business and now has got it online. He's trying to make it work. It's called Bird Dog Investigations. It's not for everybody. It's for a specific purpose in life, in terms of a particular sector out there. But to me, it was just that thing where you see, okay, someone's actually taking that time and they've run with it, right? What does he try to do? Well, Bird Dog Investigations is a platform that It works in a couple of different ways, but one way is the world of private investigators out there, because that's sort of the guy's business in a way. But it helps them in their operations. If you're a private investigator out in the field, you're out there and you're You're taking notes, you know, the typical picture of a guy drinking coffee and trying to, you know, snap a couple of pictures of whatever it is insurance fraud or whatever it may be. And he's compiling all this information. Maybe he's writing some of it on a cocktail napkin in his car and then he's like, he's got all this shit. He's got to put it together. So the problem, the thing that's missing is the ability to say to punch it into an app, right? Punch it, compile all that. It takes all the photos. It formats it all into a preset format that the receiver, whether it's a law firm or a company, if the guy's working for a company, it just sets it all in there. And then it could but it's also it's also useful for large companies like you think about you think about a company out there transportation business like FedEx or UPS or one of those and their drivers are constant what's happening is is this fraud out there where they get sideswiped purposely right or they set up fake accidents and then people are suing a company like UPS or FedEx or DHL or whomever And it costs a lot of money. It costs them a lot of money to get out of these things. That's an epidemic. It's a real problem because it involves the perpetrators, right, tend to be the same. It involves law firms and involves pain specialists and doctors. They're all kind of, they're in on this thing, right? So certain jurisdictions around the country have more of a problem than others. Big urban centers as you get imagined. So anyway, if the idea was this guy came on inside, you know what, if the drivers of these vehicles have something where they can, you know, take photos of the situation, punch in all the details, it goes straight into a report that looks, it goes into the company. Great. Now you're not, you know, it's there instantaneously they can assess the situation, they can react quicker, they can identify the frauds. So anyway, my whole point was it's just good to see, you know,
SPEAKER_00
02:41:26 - 02:41:27
someone doing something. Somebody doing something.
SPEAKER_01
02:41:27 - 02:41:35
Yeah, with their time and and then again, that entrepreneurial spirit that I just banged on about. So there. That's me.
SPEAKER_00
02:41:35 - 02:41:43
I worked for a private investigator when I was coming up as a comedian. There was one of my jobs. Yeah, I was an assistant to a private investigator.
SPEAKER_01
02:41:43 - 02:41:45
I didn't know that. What were you doing surveillance?
SPEAKER_00
02:41:46 - 02:42:12
Mostly, I was driving him around. He lost his license for a DUI. And he put out dynamite, dickless, Dave Dolan. That's who he used to call himself. He's best. I mess him. He died a few years back. But it was, I was friends with him to the end. But yeah, when I was 21, and I was an open micro. When I was first starting out doing comedy, I needed some other gigs, you know, just something to, and I said, oh, private investigator is assistant. This should be great.
SPEAKER_01
02:42:12 - 02:42:13
Why did you see it? Was it in the paper?
SPEAKER_00
02:42:13 - 02:43:46
Yeah. Yeah, it was in the help on its action. you got to explain to people what that is and uh just randomly uh so I answered this ad and it turned out that he was uh losses license from a DUI fucking hilarious guy and then never drank again never went to AA or anything just got himself off the wagons like all right I gotta stop doing this he crashed his car trying to run away from the cops and it's like fuck this But really, really funny guy, like hilarious. And his cousin, just random, right? I'm just answering this ad. His cousin was one of the owners of one of the comedy clubs in town. So his cousin was this guy build-downs who was one of the owners along with Paul Barclay of the comedy connection, which was one of the main comedy clubs in Boston. And so, like, I get to hang out with this guy and I'm telling you, at all the people that I've ever met in my life, he's in the top three funniest people of all time. And he's not a comedian. He was fucking hilarious, just naturally funny guy. And most of what we did was insurance fraud. Okay, yeah. And most of what we did was catch people, this is before the internet, right? We're talking 1988, I work for him. So this is people that were mostly like we caught a lady who was using her maiden name. She had slim little fake injury and she was getting money on the side. There was a lot of that. There was a lot of people that were working cash jobs while they were also getting paid. So we just take pictures of them like climbing roofs with fucking bundled shingle in my shoulder. I think I was laid up and bed.
SPEAKER_01
02:43:46 - 02:44:06
Yeah, he's a lot of that. And it still is. And that's kind of where the world of private investigators are in my company. It's not, we do larger multijurist or external investigations and things. But the world of the PI hasn't really changed that much. I mean, the technology has made it easier and better to something great.
SPEAKER_00
02:44:06 - 02:44:07
But it's mostly fraud.
SPEAKER_01
02:44:07 - 02:44:11
But it's mostly, there's a lot of the fraud. There's still a lot of sort of the cheating spouses.
SPEAKER_00
02:44:12 - 02:44:35
He caught one one guy wanted to keep taking pictures Even after like he's got all these pictures this bodybuilder banging his wife and he's like, hey man, you're a fucking weirdo You gotta do something about this now like a gave you your information like at the fuck out of here I'm not I'm not gonna keep following her. Yeah He followed him.
SPEAKER_01
02:44:35 - 02:44:36
I might need some more photographs.
SPEAKER_00
02:44:36 - 02:44:53
He wanted that. He wanted him to keep taking pictures like, bro, you got all the pictures you need. Apparently not. Apparently he didn't. Yeah. It was like this feeble man with this huge athletic gentleman who was bringing home the beef. Oh, man. Sling in the meat.
SPEAKER_01
02:44:53 - 02:44:58
Yeah. But that's the world of the, that's the world of the PI. It's a tough world.
SPEAKER_00
02:44:58 - 02:45:14
But he was a funny guy. How long did you do that for? Wasn't that long? Whoever long took him to get his license back. I think maybe maybe seven, eight months, something like that. I forget, but we stayed friends forever.
SPEAKER_01
02:45:14 - 02:45:17
Do you ever do any surveillance form or anything like that?
SPEAKER_00
02:45:17 - 02:45:23
Yeah. Yeah. I also, you know, was a cute little fella. I was a very boy pretty. So he would use me to talk to the ladies.
SPEAKER_01
02:45:24 - 02:45:26
Oh, good. Okay. I was sure where you're going.
SPEAKER_00
02:45:26 - 02:47:24
I would have to, you know, I'd have, you know, I was 21 year old handsome little boy. Yeah. So I'd go on the head of hair. Yeah. Yeah. I was cute. And so I would, I'd be the one that would talk to ladies and ask him questions. He had these little scams you would do. Like one of them would be, he would know someone's license plate and then he would make a couple license plates that were similar to that license plate. If your license plate was like XYZ, he would make XYW XYO and he would say, my girlfriend was in a car accident and there was a witness to the accident and the cop spilt his coffee on the paper, and they didn't get the license number, and I'm hoping that you were one of the witnesses, and I'm sorry, what happened? It was like, I have someone at the DMV, and they gave me these addresses for all these licenses. They know most of the numbers except for the last one, when I was hoping it was you. No, it wasn't what was the injury, which she okay? And he would say, well, you know, she had the, you know, L5, herniated death. I had that too. because he knew that she had that. And so then he would smooth with them like this one lady. She was so nice. She invited us over to the house. She served as coffee and I'm like, oh my God. And he's like, so what happened? Well, I fell down when I was on the job. She was a airline stewarders. I fell down and, uh, and he goes, uh, see you all right. Now she was, oh yeah, I'm fine. He was, but you're getting paid for the insurance, right? She was, oh, yes. Not only am I getting paid, but I'm also working under my, uh, my maiden name for another airline. And he was like, oh, that's great. Good, good, good for you. And then after we left, I was like, she's so nice, man. She let us in. She was fuck her. She's a crook. She goes fuck her. Like I was like, how can you do that? That lady was so nice. She had us over. She gave us coffee. He didn't give a fuck to his laughing. That's the job kid. I guess you had to work for the agency.
SPEAKER_01
02:47:24 - 02:47:30
Fuck her. That's right. Yeah, it's a listation, right? You know, that's a big part of it.
SPEAKER_00
02:47:30 - 02:47:59
Can you listen to information? Well, he was really good on it. He was, well, he was funny and he was a smooth talker and he seemed like a good guy, a good blue collar guy. and but he liked it he enjoyed the way loved it he loved catching people yeah he take pictures these guys climbing ladders with the fucking shingles in the back look at this fucking prick you're done you are fucking done and he would you know he'd be laughing and then we go eat lunch
SPEAKER_01
02:47:59 - 02:48:05
Well, shit. I had no idea. If you ever get down on your luck, you know, you can work for my business.
SPEAKER_00
02:48:05 - 02:48:11
I don't think I'd be very secret of anymore. It's a good point. I don't blend it with a mask on. Yeah. No, you're right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:48:11 - 02:48:13
That is a problem. You can't really blend it in.
SPEAKER_00
02:48:13 - 02:49:05
But with that CIA shit that they used to turn Melania Trump's double, it's a look like Melania might be in. Yeah. Give me a full head of hair, cover up my tattoos. That made me like fat, give me a nice belly fat suit like that's what they did with Thor. Did you ever see the fat suit they gave Thor from the Avengers? Oh, pretty amazing. There was one of the Avengers movies they made Thor fat. They're like Thor had been just drinking and not working out anymore and he had a big belly so they put him in a crazy fat suit and like they they showed there's a video of the CGI. It's really amazing. There it is. See, this is Chris Helm's worth, who's a... Looks like Val Kilmer. Got damn specimen of a man. They filled them up with this fat suit. So they tucked him into this thing and gave him a big fat jolly belly. See, that's what he really is. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:49:05 - 02:49:07
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
02:49:07 - 02:49:08
He's probably happier.
SPEAKER_01
02:49:08 - 02:49:10
He's probably happier as a fat guy. He doesn't have to.
SPEAKER_00
02:49:10 - 02:49:17
Well, he eats it. What he's happy is happy as a fake fat guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he can just slap on that rubber belly and...
SPEAKER_01
02:49:19 - 02:49:22
Yeah, what if he wore it home? See married honey?
SPEAKER_00
02:49:22 - 02:49:29
I don't know if you you can wear it home. I think you have to take that thing off that you're filming. It's probably disgusting. You're sweating like a pig in that thing.
SPEAKER_01
02:49:30 - 02:49:32
Plus, if you're married to Chris Edwards, you're probably not thinking Jesus.
SPEAKER_00
02:49:32 - 02:49:47
I wonder what would be like to do a baby fat maybe tired of this adonis could be a sling and dick every day like I want to you fuck by a fat guy. So regular person I'm tired of this perfect specimen on top of me every day was perfect sweat.
SPEAKER_01
02:49:47 - 02:49:54
Yeah, it doesn't even sweat. Oh, yeah, so I just I fully answered. I fully answered your alien question, right?
SPEAKER_00
02:49:54 - 02:49:58
Not really. Oh, okay. No, you you skirted around it like you skirt around everything else. I know.
SPEAKER_01
02:49:58 - 02:50:00
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00
02:50:00 - 02:50:12
I'm always accused of. Do you if you had a bet if you had money on the table? I didn't remember we do we do we have a little bit of money on the president. Would you would you think that aliens have been here or no?
SPEAKER_01
02:50:17 - 02:50:44
But you know what, I would say, in the realm of what's possible in this entire world and universe that we don't know anything about, I'd say yes. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say yeah, because we're just so much we don't know. And so I think it would be You know, again, that's sort of the, uh, that's kind of like the operational investigative pragmatic side, which says, you can't rule out anything that you don't know a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_00
02:50:44 - 02:50:54
When you hear a story like David Fraver, who's a super credible guy, and you, you spoken to him. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. What was your take on after you walked away?
SPEAKER_01
02:50:54 - 02:52:14
I think there's something there that we couldn't explain and and Do I now there's a difference there, right? So there's difference it says there's something there that we can't explain that At least with the tools that we've got currently and the technology that we've got currently That's not the same thing as saying the government knows what it is and is hiding. Right. So, you know, I'm not not taking that job yet. And because in part because I look, I work long enough for the government to know that you know, they You know, you can't keep a secret. I mean, over a period of time, it's just very, very tough. And so, do I think that they could, everybody involved and could keep their yaps shut after all these years? Now, so that's the one thing that rules out the idea in my mind to some degree, again, not really it entirely, that it didn't have. I think that there's there's something there that we can't explain and that definitely bears further investigation. Do I think we're investigating it? Yes sure. Do I think there's some element out there within the the military that is investigating the tic tac as an example? What flavor so? Absolutely. I mean we'd be silly not to right because you know that's a national security issue at that point.
SPEAKER_00
02:52:14 - 02:52:39
What I think we would be really terrifying to the government is if it wasn't aliens. Like, if there was a craft that could go from 60,000 feet above sea level to one, feet above sea and it was a human created thing. That means that some, unless it's us, right, some other civilization, somewhere on this planet has some kind of technology that's beyond the realm of our current imagination or understanding of physics.
SPEAKER_01
02:52:39 - 02:53:12
Absolutely, which is why, again, that was really the reason for creating a tip anyway within the Pentagon was because it's, again, it's a national security issue, right? Is, is, do the Chinese have they develop some propulsion system? We don't know about it. The Russians done that. I mean, do this, this is only so many, you know, options there in terms of the countries that have the resources and the ability. Yeah, so we should be investigating these things. We should be looking at this. Do I think everything needs to be out on the table? Again, going back to what you were talking about before, is there a need for secrets? Well, sure. Yeah, there are some needs for secrecy here.
SPEAKER_00
02:53:12 - 02:53:18
You think there's a need for secrecy when it comes to aliens?
SPEAKER_01
02:53:18 - 02:53:39
I would say that there's potentially because of Yeah, that's a tough one, you know what? That is a tough one. I could see where you could argue if we have anything that we know about alien life or technology or around any of this issue that we should just come out, put it on the table.
SPEAKER_00
02:53:39 - 02:53:56
My concern would be, from a national security perspective, if I, obviously, I don't know much about national security, but if I did, I would say, I don't know if people could handle it. I don't know if there would be the best thing for these fucking dummies out here that I don't even know if they should be voting.
SPEAKER_01
02:53:56 - 02:53:59
They're doing pretty well handling the election week.
SPEAKER_00
02:53:59 - 02:54:48
Yeah, they're doing great. Yeah, there's so many knuckleheads. So many knuckleheads out there. Yeah. If those knuckleheads found out that they were aliens, How bad would they freak out how bad and also What if there are and what if they're very rarely come here? But now that we have proven that they are here, how badly would other people, nefarious interests in the United States and elsewhere, manipulate that information and fuck with people over it. That's another real concern. Like if it is proven that there is alien life and that we do occasionally visit it by aliens. Do you know how many fucking cult members would be created? How many people would manipulate that information? How many people pretend to have secret insight?
SPEAKER_01
02:54:48 - 02:55:17
There would be a run on tinfoil. No doubt. Oh, so I think, you know, I guess Yeah, I mean, you could argue the other way and say, well, if it had, if it had happened or if, if, and again, I'm not saying that's the case, but if the government was aware of visits from other worlds, you know, maybe it helps people put things in perspective, you know, maybe they don't freak out as much, maybe they just think, okay, fine.
SPEAKER_00
02:55:17 - 02:55:20
We're almost together. Yeah, we're almost together.
SPEAKER_01
02:55:20 - 02:55:27
Right. And so maybe at your night's people, sort of like in the pendant's day, and then it's a famous Reagan speech, right?
SPEAKER_00
02:55:27 - 02:55:55
You know, that famous Reagan nation speech. You never, you know, heard that speech? I don't know. He's speaking in front of the United Nations in the early 80s and he said, imagine if we were visited, if we were, we received a threat from another planet. How quickly we would put aside our differences. And that's a good point then. Yeah. He went smart, man. and everybody immediately was like, oh my god, there's aliens. Reagan's telling us.
SPEAKER_01
02:55:55 - 02:56:01
He's not coming right out and telling us. Yes. But he's implying that he knows something.
SPEAKER_00
02:56:01 - 02:56:05
If there was an internet back then, boy, they would go, I'd fucking bonkers for that one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:56:05 - 02:56:06
Well, wait, wait, what do you think?
SPEAKER_00
02:56:06 - 02:56:35
I think for sure, there is life out there in the universe. Just by sheer numbers, it doesn't make sense that we're the only ones. The universe is too old. It's too big. There's too many Goldilocks planets. It's too likely. If it exists here, and they've also found evidence of life. I believe some of the trace elements of life on Mars now, right? Yeah. Having they found? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
02:56:35 - 02:56:38
Yeah. More water than they expected. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00
02:56:38 - 02:57:08
At least it just. It just seems much more likely than not. Well, there's hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone. There are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the known universe. Not only that, some physicists believe that inside every galaxy, there's a supermassive black hole and that inside that black hole may be another universe with also hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars,
SPEAKER_01
02:57:09 - 02:57:10
and another black hole.
SPEAKER_00
02:57:10 - 02:58:04
And each of that was inside of that. I mean, the universe might be this infractal thing. And even if it's not infinite, the sheer size of it is beyond our ability to comprehend. When you hear the numbers, oh, it's 14 billion years old. What does that even mean? Does that even register? That's so big. It doesn't register. And that's just as far as we can see back to the big bang. And it's entirely possible that they think It's possible that the big bang is, it's part of a series of events and that there's a big bang and then an expansion and then ultimately a contraction and a compression leading to another big bang and it's a cycle that goes on and on and on and on and it's always existed.
SPEAKER_01
02:58:05 - 02:58:42
I mean, I think the key there is, hey, we don't know what we don't know, and just the sheer size scope and the idea that we'd have to be pretty fucking cock-sure to think that we're the only intelligent life in this entire setup spinning around out here on our own. But I think not to take it back full circle, but Yeah, it's that idea that if, you know, don't discount ideas, don't, don't, you know, don't rule things out unless you've got the evidence to do so, right? You know, anyway, I mean, it would be majorly disruptive.
SPEAKER_00
02:58:42 - 02:59:20
I also think that if there was some alien force, some species that so far beyond our current understanding of propulsion and technology, they can travel here instantaneously from anywhere in the universe, why would they give a fuck who the government is? Why would they give a fuck who our president is? Why would they give a shit who our military is? They wouldn't care. No, you know, we don't we don't visit an aunt calling and go take me to the queen. I will not speak to your presence. They don't give a shit, you know, I think they'd be so far advanced that they would just be studying us with no regard to letting us know about their presence and
SPEAKER_01
02:59:20 - 02:59:30
They'd be cataloging things with all the other, you know, life that they've, or life forms that they've found and saying, okay, this is, this is how these guys behave in a social environment. They're pretty fucked up.
SPEAKER_00
02:59:30 - 03:00:01
And, you know, there's also the possibility that there's many different steps along this pathway, right? Where there's insanely advanced and then there's marginally advanced, right? Something that's only a few thousand years more advanced than us that visits us that's much more recognizable. and then things that are so far beyond our comprehension and and so different from such a different environment and different ecosystem that we we don't even yeah we can even understand what they are yeah I mean I think it's I think it's
SPEAKER_01
03:00:03 - 03:00:17
Again, it's arrogance to think otherwise that there's other things out there, that's other life forms. It's just, to me it just strikes me as odd that someone would be so definite and say, no, that's it. Maybe we find a micro about there somewhere, but that's pretty much it.
SPEAKER_00
03:00:17 - 03:00:28
I think it's also comforting to people to think that we are alone in some weird way. It's comforting to be able to think that it's bullshit. I'll stop with your aliens stuff. Just get up in the morning, have a cup of coffee and go to work.
SPEAKER_01
03:00:30 - 03:01:03
Yeah, and don't worry about this, uh, this election thing. Just all. Oh, the public will survive. It will survive. It will survive. If I had one one parting message for people would be that look, you know, just like we said, you'll look. Yeah, but, but, um, if there's a regularities that are legitimate or should be investigated, that this process is going to work it out, right? Between what is it December 8 and December 14th, is when everything has to be kind of finalized and then, you know, it makes a tweet of Congress, Congress counts out on like the 6th of January.
SPEAKER_00
03:01:03 - 03:01:06
We have to wait that long until December.
SPEAKER_01
03:01:06 - 03:01:18
I mean, I think that's what's going to happen. It's likely. I mean, unless, look, I mean, by the time we're talking right now, I don't know, maybe Nevada's been decided in which case Joe Biden's got 270. Well, Jamie's going to pull that up.
SPEAKER_00
03:01:18 - 03:01:19
Yeah, we're going to find out.
SPEAKER_01
03:01:19 - 03:01:57
But even if he has 270, even if he has 270, it doesn't mean that they stop the legal procedures in certain locations, right? And so I think that, yes, it's likely to go on much like it didn't 2000, it's likely to go on till December 12th, 13th, but there is an ending to it. So all these people who think, oh my God, he's never gonna leave and he's gonna lock him up. It's not the way this works, right? He doesn't get to make that decision. It's a legal process, it's a process that on the 20th of January, his term ends and we get a new president, either he continues or we get a revised president or president like Biden.
SPEAKER_00
03:01:57 - 03:02:09
Hopefully or civil war because he hires his own security firm and they lock everything down and they won't let that criminal Biden in and then the QAnon people become consultants.
SPEAKER_01
03:02:09 - 03:02:27
Oh my god. Yes, there is that never rule anything out, but that's just not happening. And we are going to be just fine. Again, pay attention. If you're paying attention anything, pay attention to what's happening in Georgia with those Senate races. That's where the balance of power really sits.
SPEAKER_00
03:02:27 - 03:02:34
And that's left and right. So very tiny little fraction. One side of the other, right?
SPEAKER_01
03:02:34 - 03:03:18
If neither of those races hits 50%, plus one vote, then they both go to run-offs in January. And that's where they're going to open up the spicket, and hundreds of millions of dollars are going to flow into Georgia for those races. From both sides, I'm sure, because they know what this means, right? If both of those races go to the dams, then you got a 50-50, and guess who makes a deciding vote every time there's a tie in the Senate, it's Kamala Harris. So the dams know the importance of this. Pelosi is all right. She's a very smart political operative. She's focused on this. I guarantee it, right? She's trying to, you know, in a way kind of trying to save her job as a speaker because they, you know, they didn't do what they expected they were going to do. But they know how important that Georgia race is on both of those accounts. So
SPEAKER_00
03:03:19 - 03:03:34
Anyway, well, that's where people should be focused and four years. I'm looking forward to collecting $1,000 from you. Man, maybe more if it's just Trump again. Yeah, less than four years, I'll collect my thousand because he's gonna announce he's running. That's true. And about three. Yeah. Maybe three hours. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
03:03:36 - 03:03:38
Are you ever gonna make your way up to hide at home?
SPEAKER_00
03:03:38 - 03:03:39
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01
03:03:39 - 03:03:49
I would love to. You gotta come up and you gotta do a show again up there. People are noisy keep out every time I say I'm We're getting together this thing. I'm like, I want to come back. I said, well, not right now because you got the pandemic.
SPEAKER_00
03:03:49 - 03:03:54
Yeah, you guys need to loosen your laws like Florida. You can do whatever the fuck you want Florida.
SPEAKER_01
03:03:54 - 03:04:00
It's been you know what? It's been pretty good up there. We get a number spike a little bit, but You know people are surviving now.
SPEAKER_00
03:04:00 - 03:04:31
It's not like the old days. You know people keep saying the cases are up the case. They are but also survival's up. What's magical is the flu has been down so much. I think the flu is down like 98%, which, you know, I think something crazy like that. See, see what the numbers flu is down this year. It's something crazy. And I think they're attributing that to people wearing masks, which is really interesting. Yeah. Maybe we do. We can have a, we come with mask wearing side now on. Uh, I hope not. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
03:04:31 - 03:04:47
No, I like faces too. And it's just, uh, Yeah, we'll get back to we will get back to normal pandemics and that's by definition and pandemics and and we will have another one and so then you hope that we're smart enough to have learned something from this.
SPEAKER_00
03:04:47 - 03:04:55
I think are always a good time talking you sir appreciate. Oh, you're sure when's it. Oh, hey, thank you for talking to us.
SPEAKER_01
03:04:55 - 03:05:17
Yeah, we got that show black files to class by we start filming the second season in January. And we are going to have an interesting episode on not necessarily on aliens, but on the programs surrounding the governments investigation of but identified objects and things. So we're going to dive a lot deeper into it. Hopefully I'll come back and I'll have answers. Specific answers for your question.
SPEAKER_03
03:05:17 - 03:05:20
That would be a first to add. I got on Georgia election results.
SPEAKER_00
03:05:23 - 03:05:30
Cause we're looking a dick in the end. Oh my god, that's hilarious. All right. Thanks Mike. Thanks buddy. Thanks. Goodbye everybody.