Transcript for #1827 - Kristin Beck

I don't know what he just said. Well, how does it look like the ton of birth in the geocodes? What are they trying to get out of that?

So is the idea? Is the idea that the different planets in the different position in the sky? They all have an effect on gravity. We know that it has an effect on 100%. Yeah, we know it has an effect on the tides, right? That's a big part. Isn't that a big part of the tides? Is the gravity that comes from the moon? I mean, think about how much fucking water we're talking about. Right, that is kind of crazed. Is that real though? That's weird. I need to know that. That's real. Is that what causes the tides? I don't think so. A little bit. We'll find out. We're going to find out. Well, gravity.

Gravity is a BS theory.

I don't know what you mean.

Right.

But if you drop an apple, yeah. That's like real airplane height, like Delta flight. It's mission. Yeah, Delta.

Well, seal teams to America. I know. But I mean American Airlines, Delta, that kind of Delta.

So let's look at what it says here. I think this is what we're looking for. Okay. So it says, I don't know how you say that word, a period. How does it? How does it? I just said that for a gene, for a gene spring tied occurs when the moon is either new or full and closest to earth. And so what does it have to do? Where's it's anything about gravity?

Was there have anything where it explains the amount of effect that gravity has? Moon's pull. Okay. So the moon's gravitational pull, high tide, low tide. So during high tide, the moon's gravitational pull does affect the the tides. That's what the religion called science. This is not an article of this just an image. Right. Well, that's what I try to find means recognizing the chosen. I thought that would be a quicker way. It seems like there's something to it. We're so dumb. We need cartoons now.

So let's just read what the answer is. Says high and low tides are caused by the moon. The moon's gravitational pull generates something called the tidal force. The tidal force causes earth and its water to bulge out on the side closest to the moon and the side furthest from the moon. These bulges of water are high tides. So it is because of gravity, which is amazing. So that what I'm getting at is everybody likes to poo poo the idea that someone can figure out what happens if someone's born during a given time of the year. But if the moon has so much of an effect that it changes tides, it moves, how many, how many fucking gallons of water we talking about, right? I mean, five or six. So a lot of goddamn water in the gravity of the moon is moving that shit. Like why wouldn't we assume that Jupiter and what position Jupiter is in the sky or Mars is in the sky? That all must have some kind of effect on something. And if we're water, like we're kind of mostly water, are we like 60 something percent water? What is the number percent water people are?

It probably affects you. It probably affects your fucking swimming pool. If you have a swimming pool, it probably moves a little.

That's a good question.

But they do have crazy waves. And adult men about 60% of their bodies are water. However, fat tissue does not have as much water as lean tissue. And adult women fat makes up more of the body than men. So they have about 55% of their bodies made of water. That's so true because a big muscular guys that cut weight for the UFC, they can cut a lot more weight because they're storing it in their muscles. Like big, yellow, Romero, looking dudes. Those guys can cut a ton of weight because they have so much muscle. It's the guys who are a leaner that have a really hard time with it. So anyway, so this thing is a chart that they do of you and it's dedicated, it's based on what time you were born and where in the world you were born. Exactly, yeah, right at you. And so they match this up with some sort of astronomical map of the stars.

Yes, actually a clown.

Yeah, that was their the Lakota's idea was that everything should be tested. Yeah. And one of the ways to test ideas is to poke at it and make fun of it. Like there's certain things you can't make fun of. But there's certain things that don't want you to make fun of them. And maybe you should a little bit. It's good for everybody to get made fun of a little bit. It's just what is the purpose of it in our society today. That's where it becomes like a question. Are you allowed to joke around about certain subjects or are you going to get upset? And in a various with people too, it's like some people don't get upset at all. And some people get furious if you even breach subjects. You know, which is I don't think good for anybody.

I think people still different today. You and I are kind of the same age. And I think people feel very different today about their feelings and they feel very differently today about what it is when someone insults their feelings. when we were kids, it was super normal for people who didn't sell your feelings. And I don't know if that's good or bad because it's like, as I get older, one of the things I realized is my mom was the child of immigrants. And I think that those generations of people that first came over here, like in the 1940s and the 1920s, They had such a hard scrabble life man that they maybe weren't the nicest people to their kids. You know, it's like there was a lot of like beating your kid if your kid did something wrong. Every kid got hit back.

But it's weird. It's like, I don't think you should hate your children. I think we know now that it's not a good idea because it really perpetuates more violence. And it also sends messages that that's the only way to handle something is to put physical pain and inflict it on your child, which I don't necessarily think is the right way to do it. But I do think that there's something about a little bit of adversity, a little bit of disagreement, a little bit of, it's like it, it makes you more relaxed around that stuff. Whereas with some people today, anything that they think is offensive is such an egregious crime on humanity and they want to tack it with every fiber they're being. It's like, What is going on for real, though? You just like, you have such a hard time, but like, especially the Dave Chappelle Special, like why don't you tell me what he said that was so awful? Because that was part of the problem was nobody was saying what specifically he said, which is so horrific. But in this case, they really couldn't because it was really a love letter to his friend. I mean, that's like with the last part of it is basically like he took his friend who killed herself and he put her as the closing piece of a gigantic comedy special that everyone's going to see. He did it with dignity and he did it with kindness and he did it with true friendship. Yeah. And it's still still people are furious still. It's just one of those things, man. The concept of the heoka. I think I think we could all use a little that in our lives. Does it mean you have to be mean?

Yes, everybody needs it. And then everybody needs a little little humor.

How many gestures do you think were assassinated? Probably.

You're trying to make a fucking king laugh. What if you're annoying? And he just decides to kill you in front of everybody.

No. Is cancel culture, they can't? It's a different thing. But no, it's just that the absolute power of a king to just kill somebody if they don't like what they're doing. Like that was one of the weirdest things about game of thrones and that kind of shit when they would cut people's heads off and stuff, you'd be like, yeah, I could see people doing that. I could see someone who had total control just killing someone because they don't like their joke.

Yeah, that little fuck. Yeah, I can't even do it. Yeah, the sun. Yeah. It's like whatever it is about human nature, that there's like certain places that people can go to.

Yeah, people hit other people's kids.

Yeah.

I know what you're saying.

Well, isn't that one of those things subjective? Yeah, but all people always want something in their head that other people don't have. And if you could just change names of a thing and decide you're a zer or you're a, you know, have you ever seen those TikTok videos where people describe the type of sex they are? And they say it and like with some crazy thing, like a morning attracted to someone with one sock on. You know, like they'll say that like that's the type of sexual they are like one soccer sexual it's it's it's it's there's a certain level of indulgence when it gets to that right but like who are we to draw the line that's the problem and it's like without that thing that's structure of, you know, I believe in God, I believe in country, and I believe in, you know, the United States is an awesome place. None of those things are bad things to say, but if you say those things, people associate it with bad. It's almost like we're ashamed of ourselves, right? If you say that to a lot of people in America today and say it that way, they'll genuinely be like almost insulted. It sounds like if they had to say that or they had to think that to be like, I'm not saying that. Like we've done some horrible things. America's terrible. And as I said, we've done vat to the house.

There's a lack of an appreciation for that. It's just how humans operate. And it's not that the United States is wholly bad. It's that people are fucked up. This is about as good as it's ever been. Yes, this right here, this craziness. You know, this is about as good as people have ever lived. It's fucked up. Yeah, but it isn't because it's not the Mongol hordes. You know, it's not people fighting off barbarians. It's like we were doing better when we had a little bit better, you know, appreciation for law enforcement and there was just it seems like the pandemic fucked a lot of people over to. It would be interesting to see where we could have gotten as a culture, because I think culture accelerates pretty quickly these days. And it would be interesting to see where we would have gotten if it hadn't been for the pandemic. I think we probably wouldn't have been so anxiety-ridden. I think that's a big part of what we're experiencing now is like the aftershock of the pandemic. People who lost friends and people who got injured and you know, or got wrecked by it, there's a lot of that still in the air like, whoa, what the fuck happened. And then also there's a distrust I feel like how did this happen? Tell me the truth out of this fucking happened. Because no one, I don't trust him. But no one gets this really sure fire. No one presents anything to me while I go. Well, that's definitely how it happened. No need to worry about the lab leak.

Oh, him and weird. It just seems to make way more sense that it came from a fucking lab. It acts like a virus from a lab. Right.

Well, that's interesting, right? Isn't there some, there's some crossover in the way it tests like some mistakes? Isn't that the case? Yeah. When did they figure, was that because of the amount of cycles they were running? Because I remember there was a thing where they were saying they were running 40 cycles at one point time and then they switched it and lowered it because they were getting too many false positives. The guy Kerry Mullis, who invented that PCR, he did not think it was a good idea for testing viruses that way. Yeah, there's like an interview where he's discussing it. Yeah, and it gives all the time. Yeah, doesn't necessarily mean it's because it's so high, you could just find stuff in you. And it'll always pop positive. Yeah. Well, I don't know if always.

Yeah, but it's like, it's not, you're, you're not at risk for developing the disease necessarily. But it's also back then, nobody knew.

I don't want to hold on to it. I don't think they want to tell us that it came from fucking loud. If they've 100% knew it came from a lab, I still think they'd be like, the results were inconclusive. Because it's just like too terrifying for people to know that something that killed millions of people came out of a lab. Like that is what that's wild.

I can never say I know for sure, but the people that I've talked to know for sure.

Well, we've got. We had these crazy labs. We went to visit one. I went to visit one with Duncan Russell. We went to the one in Galveston, the CDC, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Do it. It's terrifying. You're behind all these walls of glass and you get to see people in there with the fucking two thumbs tubes like yikes. This is crazy and that but you know what he was saying he's saying the the worry is not about someone developing something It's interesting in retrospect, because it was back in 2012, I think it was. He said the real fear is a natural event, like something happening from agriculture, like a pig farm or something like that. That's where a lot of them come from. He's like, that's what we really have to be worried about.

Yeah, that's true, too. That's one thing that people have out here, like kids say, sir, do you feel very respectful? People raise, like, respectful people out here. Yeah, there's something to that, man. It's like, what you were saying about the, the whole thing about, like, what's missing? You know, is the respectful thing, but also, like, the being upset at almost everything and anything, it's the ability to express yourself so, like, impulsively on a phone, like, anybody could just express himself, then they're in an argument with someone who disagrees, and they're just doing it back and forth all day.

It's really interesting because there's so much fucking information that's flying around like we were talking about earlier like I don't know if that shit works or they can pinpoint where you are born at the time you were born and figure out all lines up with the constellations and have some sort of an effect on you. But when he was dancing, totally unreasonable.

So the charts were like, yeah, that's true. Saying that you're going to have a fucked up life because of all the data that they were getting from this. He just lied.

So, when you say you don't believe in gravity, like you really do believe in gravity. Oh yeah, gravity is this. Yeah.

I see what you're saying, but but both maybe.

For sure, like we had the apple displaces the air. Yeah. Yeah. And falsely ground, but it's also getting sucked into the ground by gravity. Like both those things are real.

Do they know what causes gravity? Can they tell you that you exactly causes gravity? They know it has to do with mass, right? They cannot explain gravity. Would you say, Jamie? Don't look at me at the spot out now. Come on, it is. Come on, it is a guy who got an A in physics. Well, if it isn't a thing, they can measure, like, they can look at the mass of a planet and they can say how much gravity. Like, right? You're not true.

Yes, that's in that why the earth like when you go to the moon you're really light because the moon is like one six earths gravity

So it makes a bigger, okay. So if it's a bigger object, then it's a bigger person. Yeah.

Well, you know, that's what Bob Lazar said those spaceships do. Those spaceships that they were trying to back engineer. He said they're working on this working off of this element called element 115 that it was just theoretical. It wasn't even proven that it was a real element until the sometime in the 2000s, but he was saying this in like 1989. They have a stable form of this element 115. sits in a reactor in the craft. And what this thing does, he said, he likened it to taking a bowling ball and placing it in the center of a mattress. Yeah. So like the mattress like he's like it like bends the gravity and instantaneously propels you to a place. That's cool. and they were trying to figure out how to make it work. It's wild shit mask because if they can do that and why wouldn't we assume that that's the next form of travel? If they really do know that at least theoretically it's possible to bend space. It's theoretically possible. Like there was a movie, what was it? event horizon you know that one is like a monster movie in space and that was the thing is like they were going to be the first people to do it and so they they the way they described in the movie it's like you would take like a piece of paper fold in half put a pencil through the center of them and then unfold it and like you go instantaneously through all that space you just have to pick the first two spots

So there's gravity and there's a bunch of other stuff. There's a magnetism. There's a lot of other stuff going on. Right.

But they do know that these planets have a pole on other planets. Yep. They do know that. So there's obviously something going on to the theory of gravity. Like there's something going on to large objects, pulling things towards them. That's because that's why Jupiter saves us. Because if it wasn't for the gravity of Jupiter, we'd be fucked. Because so many asteroids go slamming into Jupiter because it just sucks into it. Yeah, it's bigger than us.

Van Halon radiation belt. Yeah, that's not protecting us from them.

Well, do they describe that as like it's like like a Hulu hoop, or like not a Hulu hoop, like a barrel, but with no top and no bottom, and you can shoot out the top. So that's what they do. And they shoot out the top and apparently you don't have to go through the Van Halon radiation belts.

But that have heard shit that if you go through the belts, you can go through the belts because it's a short amount of time with high exposure. If you have a certain amount of protection, I don't know. We're going to even, like, space. Well, it's, you know, it's kind of freaky shit because I've talked to people about it. I said, well, what happened? You know, there's like a lot of micrometers out in space, right? No, go, yeah, they're all over the place. Well, what happens if you're in a rocket ship and you're going to the moon? And you encounter a micromedia and it hits the craft is like where you fucking dead. It was like you just take a chance like you have to I mean a like a small thing the size of a marble would nook of fucking spaceship right? Wouldn't it? Yeah, you'd think I was gonna have a faster guy. They've had some holes in the space station right haven't they? Because they're just floating around up there. I think every now and then they get whack by stuff. Just got to be a whole snap thing. Do you remember that movie with Sandra Bullock? Remember that movie with a little piece of junk from space, lamps into their... I started watching out.

I was like, man, this is... Oh, look at that piece of space junk. Damage is the space station. Just punched a fucking hole through it. That stuff just floating around up there. We left a bunch of shit up there. We got false and weird stuff. You know how the satellites must be flying around? It is so crazy that we did that without any thought of what happens in the future when these things start crashing into each other. I mean, how much, there must, what is like the worldwide number of satellites? If you had a guess, take a guess.

I bet you're right. I bet it's about that. No, I bet it's more. I bet it's 200,000.

How big are those?

Yeah.

Well, but they didn't really start until the 60s though, right? Is that when they started putting satellites up there? When they started doing that?

I don't know.

You ever see the movie, but Nick? No. It's fucking dope. It's a Russian horror movie about these guys, these Russian cosmonauts, the encounter in Alien, and then bring it back to the base. It's really fucking good.

I thought it was way more to 5,000 remain in orbit. Yeah, that means 3900 fell from the fucking sky. We're still up there. Oh, they're still up there. Oh, they're still up there.

Oh, so they didn't fall from the sky.

I wonder, I mean, I wouldn't bet on it. Do they always burn up? Don't chunks of them fall the ground? That's interesting. Maybe they don't burn up. Maybe they don't burn up.

So they really suggest going through the atmosphere. They would have no protection. How wild is that? They go so fast, they burst into flames.

If you've seen that movie Sputnik, Jamie? No. I think it's a closed caption. Now that I think it, I don't think it's dubb.

I think it was one of those movies that I was... I was... I was living through like iTunes movies and I just clicked on it. I was like, what is this? And then he'd had good reviews. And so I I watched it, but it's really fucking good man. It's very interesting very unique movie. That's called like it's a It's not like it's a very Russian, but it's not like any horror movie I've ever seen before. It's a complete original. And the storyline behind it is really fascinating. It's like they wanted to contain this thing and do something with it, which is I think exactly what people would do if we encountered something from another planet. I don't think they tell us about it.

They seem to be talking about it a lot lately, which I tell you makes me more suspicious.

I just feel like I'm being fucked with. Like if the fucking CIA and NSA and the DEA, they're all telling you about UFOs.

What does Project Bluebeam?

So if you thought that out enough to have a project blue beam, my thoughts on this whole UFO thing lately have been like, the more they talk about, the more I think it's fake. And the more they admit that they can't, we have no idea. These do not come from an earthly source.

I think everybody's scared. I think they can make stuff now. That looks like UFOs. I think they have drones now. I bet that are like UFOs. I bet that's a lot of what we're going to see. I don't think you can, you can't know how advanced some military technology is because it's so interesting how they do it. It's like even though they have a budget, it's like how much do they spend? We don't fucking know. We don't have any black paint. Nobody gets stuff like imagine if you could vote on what you want your money going to. How much do you want your money going to military? How much you're money to go into education? How much to infrastructure? And you can just vote that way. And everybody could vote not just for a candidate, but vote for the percentage of your own personal money that you want to go. You have to pay the same amount of taxes, but you can choose. You can say, hey, I'm opposed to war. So I don't want to donate to that or I'm opposed to education. I want people stupid. I'm not going to vote. But we would, I mean, that would be an, that would be ideal, right? Because then representatives could never not represent their constituents. They would have to There was that that wouldn't be on the table. Yeah, so then you'd have to figure out what to do with that money because if you need more money for prisons or you need more money for cops or you need more money for teachers like you should now make the case Yeah, so if you ever if everybody gets to vote for everything that would be really interesting The problem is people don't have time to learn about stuff. You know, if you're voting for like if there's anything that involves finances, most people have the eyes glaze over. You barely paying attention to interest rates.

It's just being representative government.

Yeah, we're definitely. It's interesting because I think these entities that became a part of the technocracy, these immense tech companies. It was not their idea to do this. They were just, Twitter was just trying to come up with like a thing where you could like talk to your friends. Like, you know, and remember, do you want to come up with somebody? Yeah. Or meet friends from high school and meet back up with them. When you remember that when people would put like at like at Jamie Vernon is going to have pizza, Do you remember the earliest days of jail?

Now imagine that that stupid thing would go on to be like the number one source of information and propaganda. Well, propaganda too, but also of conversations. Like the amount of information that gets exchanged and the amount of people interact with each other on Twitter. It's crazy. Yeah, because I'll say the numbers. It's not, I don't even think they know the numbers. That's what holding up this Elon Musk deal.

Well, they don't know the numbers of the fake accounts.

I don't know how that works. I don't know if they know because it's not whether or not their false. It's whether or not the method they use to find out is the most effective method.

Perhaps, but I don't think that would be with their knowledge. The way it's very complicated because how do you prove that an account is real? And there's also a problem. There's people that have real accounts, but they use them like they're not a real account. So they have a real account. They log in, but they don't post at all. They just read stuff. Which is fine, right? Yes, sure. But some people don't want to interact with people. They just rather just read other people's opinions on things. Those people would be treated as if they have a fake account. Yeah. So it's like, how do we know? Is there a way to know? And I think Elon has proposed some way to know, but I don't know what that is. But the way they do it, it's like, I don't know if you're accurate or not. I don't think they know. There's, there's accounts that are fake accounts that are these internet research agency accounts that they're like indistinguishable from regular people. They're posting. Yeah, they're posting memes, they're commenting on stuff. They're getting people to comment on stuff for, for the account and they, you know, they seem real reasonable or they act like a normal person and they're just literally like, it's a fucking, it's not even AI man. It's like a room full of people are doing this. the farms. Yeah, it's wild because you can find like tweets where you see the same exact wording and like multiple accounts. Whoa, what the fuck is going on here? And then you realize, oh my god, these are bots. This is crazy.

Yeah, I do.

That's a weird thing about the whole algorithm that it does sort of curate information. It kind of promotes the echo chamber mentality. Echo chamber. Yeah. That's what I was trying to do. Because that's what you're into. So that's what it gives you. And, you know, it gives you things that you're, you get upset by because those are the things you engage with the most.

Yeah, how can it go in both ways? Algorithms are very interesting because I could see how it would help in some ways, like it'll suggest things to you that are interesting, that might be right up your alley, and that would be, that would be good, you know, and you enjoy the sight more. It's a better product for you. But then there's the other thing that does when it comes to opinions. And it locks you in with. Yeah, and it gets, it also seems to, that sort of engagement is almost like it's, uh, instigating bullshit, instigating disagreement. It told it to us. Yeah.

Because I think they didn't anticipate it. I think they thought I was going to do the first thing. I think they thought everybody's looking for like some insidious plan. But I think it's just human nature. And I think what they were doing was showing you the things that you engage with the most. Yeah. So like, aren't my friend Ari Shafir, he did an experiment. And he only viewed puppy videos on YouTube. And all YouTube would show him was videos of puppies. Yeah. It's because that's what he asked for, right? But he just did it for the experiment as did you. But if you're that person that clicks on those kind of, it's just going to show you that stuff. But it's not that it's insidious. It was designed, I think, to enhance the experience. So if you're looking for like you like watching European football, So like you're looking for these matches and then all of a sudden it's suggesting all sorts of other matches and it's like, oh, this is great. I don't even have to look for them. They're right there in front of me. It helps you engage the platform more. But then people are so crazy that what we want to do is get upset by stuff and even though the world outside like Bill Hicks, you just have a great joke about that about watching CNN and about like, you know, they were talking Dades, disease, death, everyone's gonna die. You know, you'll never live to be 100. I forget what the joke was, then he would open up the door and look outside and be like, where the fuck is all this shit? I mean, we saw the death first. It's like, there's a thing that happens if you focus only on negativity. And if you only focus on negativity, it's very bad for you. You can get too much information and it's not how you're supposed to live as a human. You're not supposed to interface with seven billion people's worth of bullshit. It's just too much. You literally can't exist like that. It's terrible for you. And there's a lot of people who do that. And that is one of the things that's heightened us on top of the pandemic. So you have the pandemic that fucked everybody up and then you have this social media that's sort of naturally accelerating everybody's anxiety and freaking everybody out.

Yeah.

There's a lot of people that I knew that we're like pretty reasonable people that during the pandemic, especially just ramp things up to such an extreme. You're like, my God, man, are you okay? You're so political. Like I go to their Twitter page and it's just filled with politics stuff.

It's a baseball fan. It's like, it's the whole world. You know what I mean? Like, you know, baseball fans look like to read off stats. Yeah. These fucking political people that get really political. It's like, you man, you're almost like a sports fan. You're a sports fan for the Democrats. Maybe it is. I think I really think that's what it is. I think there's a real problem in having parties at all. I think you should just have people with ideas because I think when you have parties it just makes people want to like if you're on one side you don't like the other side. You don't listen to their reasonable ideas, fuck them. They're the anime, we're gonna crush them, come November. And it's like, that's probably not healthy. It's probably not healthy for the country, because people naturally tend to gravitate towards a team that accepts them, whatever it is. You pretend you like things to get in with the cool crowd. People do that. They do it all the time. And that's a natural tendency for human beings to want to be connected to a tribe. And it's like you don't necessarily want that. You kind of want to be able to have a lot of ideas in your head. You don't want to have to like be like if I believe in this I believe in that because it's a part of my tribe. Maybe I believe in this but I think that's dumb. Maybe I think you guys are a little over sensitive.

I saw that, but I didn't know if that was bullshit. I was always going to ask you, Jamie, to look that up.

Yes. Tell you what, and because we're at what that's real, if that's real, that's crazy. 67% but if it's not real, that might be just as crazy. Show us how crazy people are. They would make something like that up. That's almost more interesting. But I really think it's true. I wish we had a wish it wasn't true now because then it's even more fascinating. It's someone who would make that one out. I would make it out to be weird if I did. I went for like forever for a long time believing that the sky was filled with these flying worms. This is how stupid I am, Kristen. Listen to me. This is how dumb I am. I was getting baked with my friend Eddie Bravo, and we would watch these documentaries on these things called rods. This is the one of the dumbest things I've ever done. And I mean, I spent many hours watching these things. This is incredible. You can only caption them with high speed cameras. that's not true at all. What it really is is when you have a camera that's filming, like unless it's a super high-speed camera, when a bug flies across it, it shows like a trail. It doesn't just show a bug, like that's moving across the stream. But when they have like a 4K camera, like one of those like high definition cameras, then you see it's just a bug. So this show called, I think it was Monster Hunter. They showed it on TV. I'm like, God dammit, I'm so dumb. There's forums everywhere. I believe that there was flying worms in the sky. There's a video of these guys jumping into a cave. They're parachuting down into a cave in Mexico. And as they're doing it, these things fly by. These things fly under them and it looks so real. Like if you're dumb like me and you're in a panic exposure, it can't really say it.

Dude, for fuckin' years, I believe this. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you. I've got to

That's the dumbest one of the things I believed. I think the big foot one I believe big foot for a long time, but I think big foot used to be real. That's what I think. I think there's too many Native American words, too many Native American words for that animal.

There's also a real animal that existed with humans. It's called the Gigantopithecus, and it was like in the orangutan family, and it was somewhere around 8 feet, 10 feet tall, huge. There's a photo of what it would look like, because it was a bipedal hominid. Yeah, it was a standing upright ape that might have been ten feet tall and there's a picture of it like what it would look like if it was like a modern human standing there next to think it's fucking crazy.

Oh, you sure they're just doing. Yeah. Well, let's take a look. I can't open the gas first. I'm going to show you the first because it's so crazy. You show me an image of four things back. I know.

The water thing in the mud can go back to Bigfoot. Top it off with the water. We can just wrap it off.

Is it tough?

Is there any signs on the talking to plants?

Did you go to church as a kid? Not that much, but I stopped when I was like seven.

Wow.

So what a branch of Christian division?

Look at that. So the electricity running into the water makes it that spiral.

So the ultrasonic waves are causing these objects to levitate. So they're levitating in the ultrasonic waves. Is that ice?

That is something good stuff and Eddie Griffin said outside the comic store one size fucking. I don't know.

Well, there's something certainly to like the shape of the stone and the fact that it's all gonna echo like crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something going on with the weirds. I wonder if you made culture. That sound. Have you ever seen that, Jamie? Were the guy stands down to the bottom of, uh, I think it's in Chechnita? And he makes some noise. What did he do to you?

It sounds weird. It's pretty cool. And that's like the temple of Quetzal Quattal, I think, too. I'm out of made that up. But that's like their bird. They're crazy bird god. Is it in Chejun?

If you saw how big this pyramid is and how far away this guy is from it, you would realize how crazy that is. If you're listening to this, this is a topic.

It's days is that on purpose. Imagine if they figured that out on purpose. Imagine if they designed that. If they designed that, we need to figure out what the fuck went wrong. What happened?

Yeah. Younger dry us. Younger dry us.

Well, you know, I think its civilization has these rises and falls. And we always want to believe that we're in the middle of rising and that we're at the highest level of people have ever been. Because we're way higher than anybody that we know of. And when we look back a thousand years from now, yeah, we're way more advanced than them. But when you take into account the younger drives impact theory, you've got to get, it gets real confusing. Because you start going, well, okay, if that did happen, like how smart people were people 12,000 years ago. If the US was really covered half of it was covered in a mile high sheet of ice. and people were creating these insane structures. Like in St. whether it's the pyramids of Egypt or I mean I don't know what year Machia Picchu was made but a lot of people dated back a long time ago as well. I mean, is Machia Picchu from that era? Like when do they think Machia Picchu was constructed? But it's another one of those five. It just doesn't make sense. It's so amazing. Like how did you get these stones here? They're so big and it's so perfect and beautiful. And the way they contoured the stones to fit into these slots, it's incredible. 14 and 50 really that seems wrong there's no that might be just one of those things there's is one of those things were like archeologists they'll date a thing and you know you can't really date stone so they date whether it's a biological material they have to find a piece of wood or something something they can do a carbon dating something on you can't date stones so they'd probably just kind of guessing they might be off The thing is, that becomes doctrine with a lot of people. They found that thing go backly tapping. That threw a monkey wrench into everything, because for sure, that's 12,000 years old. For sure. So that means somebody covered it up intentionally, 12,000 years ago. That means they could build this stuff, 12,000 years ago, like how? How would they be able to make these immense stone columns when we think that these people were supposed to be? I just think, I thought they were supposed to be. You're saying this thing.

That makes sense. That makes more sense. Like people kept using it. But when did they actually make it? I mean, when you get to, you know, when you get to looking at stuff like the great pyramid of Egypt and, you know, they place that somewhere around 2,500 BC, maybe they're right. There's so much shit there that's below that. There's so much stuff that they find like these old kingdom structures that are under the ground.

How about all the stuff they're finding in the Amazon? It's finding all these like ancient civilizations, the Amazon that could have been immense and had, you know, who knows how many fucking people living in these really complex grids like, that was all cities.

What do you think they're omitting?

Okay. But if you compare it, when it comes to medical science, there's no comparison to what they know today. They've done so many studies. There's been so much data. For sure, it's corrupted somewhat by the pharmaceutical industry. for sure. Yeah, for short testing is someone corrupt. They've been busted doing stuff before. They've had to pay mass of fines for sure. But also for sure, our understanding of how to heal people is better than it's ever been. Oh yeah, I absolutely agree. Yeah. So like that's what one of the things that I when people want to talk about like using herbs to cure diseases, I'm like, wow, Madison's pretty fun. Good too. Yeah. Like it's like you can't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Yeah, we shouldn't do it.

It's willow tree. Really? Really?

Is that all you have to do to get Aspen? It's the bark. It's a bark. I've a willow tree. You eat this bullshit as bark. You just swallow a couple of berries.

Oh my god. How many years? Any toothpaste. What do you wash your teeth with?

So you think we've been fucking ourselves over with toothpaste?

It is a common misconception that Aspen is found in the bark of the willow tree. A related compound called Salison does indeed occur in the willow bark. They're by explaining the use of the bark as a medication since the name, since the time of apocrates. Okay, so it works like it's just a different thing that works like that.

Yeah, it's um, what is this? Yeah, so that's Gigano-Pithagus. Nice. That was a real thing. So that was a real animal. And the way they found out about this is interesting, there was a guy, I think it was an anthropologist was in an apothecary shop in China. And like the 1930s, I think, somewhere like early in the 20th century. And he found this tooth. And he's like, what is this? Is it giant primate tooth? And he was looking at, he was like, this is wrong. Where the fuck did you find this? And they took him to wherever it was and he found more. So he found jaw bones and the position of the jaw is one of a hominid that is bipedal. So it's like the position of the jaw is supposedly one that's a stand up gorilla. So this big ass hairy man looking thing that you saw in that first picture. Apparently that was a real thing. And it lived alongside people. Like, there was a thing walking around like that in the jungle. It's pretty cool.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Smithsonian killed the giant.

Here's the claim. But these are all giant human skeletons were found by the thousands and destroyed by the Smithsonian. And old hoax has refurbished in an Instagram meme claiming that giant skeletons were found, but were destroyed because having to explain the existence of these skeletons contradicted the evolution of mankind and creation. The July 25th post by the user conspiracy theories, which is probably a rush anyway. which is gained over 54th. That's probably a Russian hoax. 54,700 likes, reads, giant skeletons were found by the thousands, but most were destroyed or thrown in the ocean by the Smithsonian and Vatican.

But did they say pictures of these? Yes, there's photos.

or, but to Smith Sony do, it was just, the thing is like people were always full of shit.

Yeah.

Did there's anything in those that it was a dinosaur? Maybe they thought it was a whole person. It was like a holy man with or something.

Really? They just took pictures of it. Is there any photos of these full human skeletons? I'm super-scabbed.

Super-scabbed. Those are these giant human skeletons. Take some data from right in the left.

That's high resolution. That does not look real. We don't know how tall that other dude is either. That's me standing next to Shack. Okay, what's the saying?

Really? Yeah. Yeah. The Smithsonian apologized for a digital world.

Mm. As it was. I'm sorry that. Imagine if you went over Sporegate's house and it takes you into a secret room. He's got giant skeletons.

Imagine that. Imagine dragons were, I mean, you think about why are there so many depictions of a similar creature throughout all these different cultures? Like, that was that Matthew Bacana Hay movie. Do you remember that movie? There was a movie where it turns out they were digging into the ground for something like oil or something, and they tapped into dragons. And the dragons were, here it is. Giant skeletons found. Cave in Mexico gives up the bones of an ancient race. Okay, it says Charles C. Clap, who has recently returned from Mexico, where he has been in charge of Thomas W. Lawson's minipig. Mine is old. So bad resolution. Mining interest is called the attention to Professor Agaziz Agaziz Agaziz to a remarkable discovery made by him. He found in Mexico cave containing some 200 skeletons of men each above eight feet in height. The cave was evidently the burial place of a race of giants who Antedated? Antedated? I don't know what that means. I'm never heard that word. Antedated the Aztecs. Mr. Clap arranged the bones of one of these skeletons and found the total length to be eight foot 11 inches. The FEMA reached up to his thigh and the molars were big enough to crack a coconut. The head measured 18 inches from front to back, and this is like what years, just in New York, 1908. Wow.

Giant skeletons found Los Angeles, strange skeletons found Madison Wisconsin.

That was Texas. Austin, Texas. They were trippin' on pay, Odyman. If the report of the fossilized skeleton of a giant 18 feet tall, has been found near Seymour Texas is true. It is the most important ethnological discovery ever made in the world, remarked Dr. J. E. Pierce Professor of Anthropology at the University of Texas. I bet he probably said that with the most mocking tone ever. Do you understand that it would be the most important ethnological discovery ever made the world?

It's a good question. There is.

Well, it could be that it was real. Or it could be that it became a myth that just gets repurposed. And like a lot of things, like the mothman or a lot of these things, like people believe they're seeing. You hear about it. And then you claim you see it. And then it goes on and on and on and on.

Imagine if they were just, they just died off. It was too hard to get food.

Well, here's the thing, if that younger drug... What? Is that real? I don't know. That's not real. That is so not real. That's so CGI. You back up. That's a fake video. If you back up and watch, watch the guy walk. Look how he's standing. That's not real. Look at his neck and everything.

Yeah, it looks like a horseshit.

Yeah, it looks like someone put like a CGI, even the way the thing's moving. It's like so rigid. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is fake.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what they did. They spliced that in there.

Next time you have a question like this, you bring it to us. You can't even run around believing the shit.

So there's no giants. I think there's no giants. I think the big foot one is probably if you go back to that younger driest impact theory that apparently they think that could be what was the cause of mass extinction of like an enormous number of the megafauna on North America in particular. It all happened around that time period and they think if that was a real animal and it existed at one point in time and co-existed with people it could have died off just like the mammoth did but a lot of other animals did during that time period. That's a number two tigers. They all died off around then. Yeah, they don't know why those things all died off like there's a bunch of different theories, but one of them is that younger drives impact theory. Yes. It's a very good one because we know things get hit by asteroids. It's not outside of the realm of possibility. We know what happens all the time and they actually have that speaking of like patterns of you know, astrology, astronomy rather. They know where when Earth passes through this area where there's a lot of comments. Yeah. And it coincides with the younger drives impact theory. They think it happened a couple of times. Not just ones. They think a couple thousand years apart or two. They think they're probably happened somewhere around 12. But I think they think it might have happened again around 10,000 years ago. And every time that happened, I guarantee you, there's enough of that nuclear glass that they find. And enough aridium, which exists when they do the core samples. And they get to that time. There's enough to indicate impacts. Something like that. And any impact is going to leave a lot of a rhythm, of course. It was probably a fucking doozy. It's a huge doozy.

Like, how did they make the pyramids? How did, it's like, they left behind such undeniable achievements. So you can't dismiss it. You can't dismiss the possibility that they might have had a civilization even more advanced than we are. Which is so weird, because we don't want to believe that. We want to believe there's no way people 5,000 years ago were fucked it's more than us. No way. But maybe they fucking were. Maybe they figured something out. And I wonder what that it would be. Like what could make them able to do something like the pyramid, like the great pyramid of Giza, 2,300,000 stones. Some of them from a quarry that was hundreds of miles away. Like they put together something that's so nuts. that even thousands and thousands of years later, you walked by, you were worth of how did I do this?

Thousands of years ago. The Acropolis and the Parthenon, like the Parthenon, is the bottom one, right? Isn't that the bottom one? You're crapless person building. It sits on the part of the vehicle. So they they just say that that was already there like the part on the part that it's built on you ever see how fucking big those stones are and it was just there. So when the Greeks built the Acropolis that shit was already there they built it on top and everything's our square.

go to the the giant stones of the parthenon just google that because there's so big you just go wait wait wait wait wait wait what year was this when did they do this did it with horses and wagons where did you get the walk What the fuck is going on here? It's so big and they literally give no explanation as to how it was made. Like see if you can see, um, is there any images that show, like the sides of it? We can get a huge, there's some images that show though. Yeah, okay, that's a good one. Like what is that?

Who did that? Hercules went, like, oh, there's a good example. There's a good example. Like, are you out of your fucking mind? What is that? Is that a spaceship launch pad?

Imagine if that's what it was. It's like at one point in time when it's cool. That's perfect. Pretty fucking cool. What do your thoughts on aliens? Do you think they're watching us? They'll step in.

Well, there's definitely been some of those, what we call trans medium crafts that have been observed. I'm friends with Jeremy Corbell and he's, uh, he makes these documentaries on, on UFOs. He did this amazing one on Bobo's are. And, uh, they send him footage because they know that he's like the main UFO guy. And he'll study it and understand. And he releases it and tells people, you know, where it came from and that's cool. But I always like how you know that someone's not fuck away. Yeah, there's something going on. Totally.

A lot of people have seen things come out of the ocean. A lot of people have. Including that tick attack. Well, that experience a commander David Fraver had that was off the coast of San Diego in 2004. You ever heard about the story in here now? And Commander David Fraver is a naval pilot, rock solid, just like everything about him. You believe of every word out of his mouth, never had an outrageous day in his life that was like this. And then one day, he has this thing that they see that's hovering over something that's in the ocean. So something is in the ocean below the surface, whether it's like, looks like the size of an aircraft carrier or something, and there's something above it. thing that's shaped like a tic tac and I think they said it was like how big was that thing? It's like 20 feet long So it wasn't that big wasn't that big whatever this thing is they tracked it on radar going from 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 and less than a second cheers They don't know what happened. They tracked it with, they got video of this thing and they had eye contact by two different jets that saw this thing and they were communicating about it and they were discussing it and he's talked about it. And then whatever that thing was jammed their radar or actively jammed their tracking, which is technically supposedly an act of war, that's what they said. And then it immediately vanished at this insane rate of speed and went directly to their cat point. So it knew where they were supposed to go later in their journey. That's cool. I get new. Damn. which is fucking nuts, and they're like, it's bad. And the people that were tracking it, and the ship said, hey, we found it again. It's at your cat point. And they're like, what the fuck? I was watching that. And there's a video of the thing taking off. They don't know what it is though. Like, what is that? Is that a drone? Is that from another planet? Is that something we have? Is that we, are we? But you're open minded enough to look at it.

I wanted to know. You don't know.

No, but I want it to be an alien. That's the problem. The reason why I'm so critical about these things is that I want them to be real.

No, it would be cool. It would definitely be cool, but there's levels of cool. So like there's aquaman level cool, pretty fucking cool. But then there's a silver surfer cool. Cool with an opera. Silver surfer is cool with an opera format. No disrespect. Don't a big Jason Memorial fan. I think he was the best Conan ever. But it was pretty cool. He was the best Conan. It's just the movie wasn't the best. But he was the best Conan. He was the most believable Conan.

Yeah, because that's what a guy like Conan would look like. We'd look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. He was too jacked. I didn't have that weird accent. Yeah, he was all shaved down and you know, oiled up like he's about to pose. But Mammal was like the most believable. But something coming from space is better than something coming from the ocean.

That was a movie with the came to play.

Yeah, it's why wouldn't they want it to be accurate?

Like why would that make it a worse movie?

But isn't that's like, if you're, if you're bringing seals on and you're gonna talk to them and there's like a sealed thing in the movie. Why? How arrogant are they to like disrespect the seals by coming up with shitty tactics that you would never do?

I just think that if you're going to depict something in a film, you don't have to lie about what the thing is to make your story work. The story's good already. The abyss is, you got aliens in the fucking ocean. You could have a bad seal, but you can't have bad tactics. They can't totally go on blockers. It's like you can't just fake what a thing is because it makes your movie better. That's stupid.

That's a big thing. Well, the arrogance of Hollywood, the arrogance of being able to do that. I always talk about the Mark Schultz movie, know that movie about that man who killed David Schultz, the John DuPont, you know, that's why they are the rest one movie.

Exactly. Yeah. Fox catch. Yeah, and Mark Rafflow was awesome now. Yeah, he was he's great.

Dark movie that it's a dark movie, but apparently it was that accurate. I think there's a lot that they took license with as well. And one of the reasons why I say this is because there's a fight at the end of it. Mark Schultz. Who was the brother? He had a fight one fight in the UFC and he fought against this guy named Big daddy Big daddy good rich. Gary good rich. Yeah, sorry my tongue good Sorry about that, folks. But anyway, Gary Goodrich is a legendary fighter. He's fought in the UFC multiple times. Gary Goodrich, he has one of the most ferocious knockouts in the history of the sport against this guy Paul Herrera. Paul Herrera takes him down and he gets him like a fireman's carry and Gary locks him up in a crucifix and blast him with elbows. It is a horrendous KO, because he hit some like four or five times while he's completely unconscious, and Gary is a giant man, just super jacked. So Gary fought Mark Schultz in the UFC. It's not like another guy. Like you just owe some random guy. No, it's fucking Gary Goodrich. He's a legend. It's huge. So Mark Schultz fought Gary Goodrich in real life, but in the movie, fight some Russian guy. Like, completely fake guy didn't make any sense. And why would they do that? The historical accuracy was better than the fake. But it's like, you're faking something that I know happened. I watched it. But you're pretending you wrote a whole new thing.

It doesn't make any sense. It's so if you do that, how am I supposed to trust you about all the other shit on that movie?

Yeah. You're just making stuff up to make your movie good.

It's also like what we were talking about earlier about killing gestures.

And I don't like that guy worked for him, right? Yeah. And he just decided to kill that guy.

It's like that kind of... God, it's exactly like it. Exactly. It's like a team. Yeah. It's that kind of Ben Shapiro has a video where he's going over these people at Davos. These, uh, you want some coffee? Thanks, man. Sorry about that. No worries. Ben Shapiro. So in this video, cheers. Cheers, Greg. Great talk. It's been a fun time. Yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff in Benchpira's video. He's talking about how there are certain people that really do believe that be because they're wealthy they know better and they want to just assume control over things and make things work easier, they really think of themselves as elites. It's not, it's not, they don't think of it as like elites like, I went to Yale, I went to Harvard, no, I'm better than you. That's what their version of elite is. And it's an interesting phenomenon that human being seemed to acquire when they get a lot of power. They just, they feel like they should be able to dictate how people do things. And it's like, God, it's a weird natural position almost, right?

You know what I mean? I do know what you mean.

And they're fucking adamant about it. Like when you watch pro-lifers and pro-choice people scream at each other, like wow. Like that's one of the best examples of how differently people think, whether it's because of ideology or religion or what causes you to be so So rock solid and rigid in your principles, whether you're right or wrong. It's a strange thing when they collide with someone who is diametrically opposed to you, but equally passionate that they're right. And you watch people scream at each other, you're like, wow, we're so strange.

And we do that to everything. But it's one of those things where you clearly know by someone's choice whether or not they're on this side of that side. If someone says I'm pro-life, oh, that's Republican.

Yeah. It's weird. And there's also things like climate change. Like people that are like political today. They believe so much that were fucked. Those people are almost all Democrats. Yeah. The people that think everything's going to be okay and that we'll figure it out and it's, you know, it's not nearly as bad as everyone's saying. Those are all Republicans.

It's just that's what I think. We have, but it is different. We definitely are fucking it up. We wouldn't 100% of contributing. We were 100% admitting too much carbon and particulates and coal power plants make all the cities around fucked. Like we watched this video of this coal powered area of was it Indiana? Was it Indiana and this one area has a bunch of coal plants around it and you found you have like the dude's fucking dust. Oh, yeah, people's calls. It's nasty. It's cold dust. So it's in the air. So you breathe and cold dust. So all these people have all these problems and health problems and it's like we get the fuck out of that move. The fuck and we've got to stop doing that. What are we doing? That's just this got to be a better way than this.

But the people are dying out. But that was fucked because the people are actually being poisoned by the fucking air, which they need to get the chance to choose. But then everyone's scared, nuclear. But nuclear seems to be one of the only ways where you can generally assume that unless there's a meltdown, you're going to get some pretty solid power out of that. And it's not nearly as environmentally impactful until it's really, until it goes really bad.

What are they using to make the body suit out of?

And it's supposed to be able to fly.

Yeah. I've seen that stuff. That stuff's wild.

It changes everything. Other thousand pounds. So you can only get a couple of those on a plane.

Well, yeah.

But those nuclear batteries, like how dangerous it is for a human being to be around it.

But if you, I would feel like if you wore that thing around, you got horrible bone cancer because of it.

Is there a way to shield it so that a person can be in direct contact and not receive. You cared around in the suitcase. Really. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

Isn't it funny like that's one of the things that we're scared of the most? I have to be careful some of the stuff I say. I'm like, I can't sleep going. Are you saying stuff that you know, you can edit it out? You're saying stuff. No, there's class.

Is that a situation where as new technology comes out, then they revise it. Yeah. And so they're always working on it, but it's not always working on it.

How would you?

You're just yeah, you're almost it's big Imagine if you're in the bin at middle of some sort of an operation and there was a solar flare Yeah, and the solar flare nukes all the electricity appears. Yeah, you're scared. Yeah fuck Jesus that's that's where we're thousand pounds. I mean how the fuck could you move it? How could you if you stock in a thousand pound robot?

That's what it looks like right now.

Okay, so that is, um, XO skeleton goes down his legs and that's those things on his legs.

And so this is one right here. And so you see these got this. So you've got those down like sides.

And it helps you move.

I need to find one of those. I need to find one of those. I need to find one of those. I need to find one of those. I need to find one of those.

And so ultimately they want it where it covers your body like an iron man or is that just or that's the ultimate would be when you start putting armor and everything on it.

Yeah, and he definitely's not driving anyone.

How in, how that might be, if you look up carnivore and how far the first one, how far do you think they are from developing autonomous robots that replace people anyway? We see solutions. Think so with weapons.

Do you think they'll develop like a humanoid type robot? Or do you think they'll keep everything to that? You know, they have that sort of dog shape one that you see the four-legged one. It seems like that would have that would maybe have some advantages in terms of maneuverability with the four legs.

You don't think they'll use those to shoot guys. Yeah, we already have guns on those. Really.

And so when you operate that, you could operate that remotely and just be connected by satellite or something like that.

Oh my god, so I would ever target. They always would talk about that in video games. That was eventually going to replace your mouse cursor. It was going to be your eyes. And then like it's somehow another focus is. So like if you think of you're playing a game and you have triggers in your fingers and you're like in the first person shooter like Quake or something like that, if you're aiming with your actual eyes, wouldn't that be way better? And you saw the cursor move, but maybe you'd get a fucking horrible head. You know the day you're neck would probably be killing you, right? Well you know the hair you're doing this all the time. You're next if I would freak the fuck out. Wouldn't it, Jamie? Doesn't that make sense? If you played a video game and you were using your head as the cursor. So that's this guy's doing it. Oh my god, this is amazing. So what we're looking at is a man in a cockpit. And as he moves his head up and down the gun below moves exactly where his vision is. That's wild.

Hold, shut.

But yeah. Right after September 11th, I was working in, uh, where the fuck is it? Palmdale. We're working in Palmdale, uh, filament fear factor. And that's near, uh, I think it's Edwards is out in that direction. Edwards Air Force Base. Yeah.

But they had stealth bombers. Yeah.

We had it was like whole shit. Did you see one of those? You're like, that's from another planet. There's no way that's ours. It seems so much like a UFO.

It looks so much like a spaceship. It was one of those. And it was another different one that's like a dark colored one that they used to avoid radar. I don't know. How many of them do they have to do that? How many different jets do they have that look like a stealth bomber?

We saw, I think I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly we saw two. It's a long time ago. My memory sucks about this. But I do remember seeing the stealth bomber flying going, I feel like this is Star Wars.

Really? Yeah. And does it do the same thing? That's it. It's similar, yeah. That's the one we saw.

What the fuck man? Look at that thing. That does not look like it's from this world. It's pretty cool. It's so cool. America. Look at that thing. That's incredible. Wow. We'll give that though. China Russia could make US stealth tech obsolete. God damn it.

Yeah, but is that that we're stupid or is that just what happens? Isn't that what happens?

Well, it's not just how technology works, though. They're always coming up with better and better solutions.

Right. They don't know that until they do it. And then someone comes up with a better thing. And then they have to come up with a better thing than the better thing. Like make it smaller. Make it half, half the size. That's the same thing. I want to form technology. Yeah, but what they're trying to do is admirable. I mean, they're trying to make a fucking spaceship. You know, if someone makes it better spaceship, you're like, okay, well, we'll come with another spaceship. That's how it gets there. It doesn't get there like they just sit in a lab and think about it and come up with all the possible counters to this. And so they get, you know, paralyzed by analysis.

I would imagine a seal team is more effective.

Or how both? We're American god dammit. We should have all that shit. But then if we start floating on a money, we have to have our own space force. Don't we? Yeah, kind of. Jocco, run for president, please. Please, Jocco. Jocco and Tulsi Gabbard could fucking win. Jocco and Tulsi Gabbard could become president and vice president, 100%. I don't know in that order, what order it would be?

I don't know if he is either, but we need to think he is.

I got some history with him. He's amazing. He's amazing. When did you know that you were a woman? Like when in your mind did you know? Oh God. Did you know when you were young? Yeah. Like how young? Like for as long as you remember?

Like what did it feel like? What felt different? Because this is in the time where it wasn't generally accepted or even disgusting.

more people would be on board if that was on the table for discussion, but it doesn't seem like it is on the table. It's not.

When you see something like the Lea Thomas thing, like the swimmer. When you see her winning all these competitions as a female, but then as a male being like number 462. Yeah. Like does that seem fair to you? Like what is your answer to that question?

I don't know, you're in good shape.

But anti-travel. But that's a problem. But that's a problem also like a little weight. What weight do you? 180. Yeah, there's no women there, 180. There's no, not even a women's division. The biggest is I think the PFL as a woman's 150 file. So shoot.

No, it's not right.

I don't mind it if it's voluntary. It's like, you know, you know, it remained around me as a multiple-time world boy type champion. She was UFC, featherweight champion. She was a fucking assassin. But that was the point. She fought a dude. She had a, I think it was a kickboxing match, I think, with a dude. It might have been a boxing match. Either way, she flatline to do this trade right. She's a fucking straight killer. She's a straight killer. I would never want to tell Jermaine to random me that she can't fight that guy. She can do it over the fuck she wants. She's a badass. Just like I feel like you should be able to ride a bull. You want to ride a bull? Go ahead, ride a bull. I don't think you should. I tell you if you're my friend. Why? What kind of thrill are you going to get out of there?

You could fucking die there. So here's this dude is swinging hard on germane, right? Oh, so it's a boxing match. Clearly after she was on. And he's really trying to take her out. Boom, she cracks up. So this watch that again because this dude is Quentin off on the right. She look at her. She's just she's trying to fire back, but look at that right hand straight straight right is a goddamn piston. She's a killer. She flat line that dude. That's hilarious. I mean, so I'm 100% for that, but what I'm not for is us pretending. I'm not for us pretending that someone who's a biological male doesn't have advantages, especially when we're really blurring the lines of like, how long do you have to be a identifies of email for? Like how long, how much hormones do you have to take? Have there been like, and what's the, How much different people will talk about outliers? There are outliers. That is a good conversation because there are people like Roy Jones Jr in his prime who is an outlier. He was so fast. He had such advantages over the average person just by nature being born Roy Jones Jr. But we accept that in the spectrum of males. But the difference between what you're saying is that the spectrum of males where you, you know, as a person normally training, would not be competitive against the males. Yeah. You still would be against the females. Because it crosses over where it puts you in like a journeyman female profiter level. Yep. Yeah.

Well, because you have been a biological woman in your whole life, you've worked really hard to get to a position where you get a scholarship, and you get a scholarship based on swimming, and you want to have an amazing academic career, and you keep showing up second place to a biological man. And you think that in your mind, you should be number one, because against other women, you have dedicated yourself more, you put in more time, you're more focused, but you can't get over that hump of the XY chromosome biological male who's dominant.

The rules are there because we want to affirm someone's identity in every possible way. We want to affirm them by calling them a woman. We don't want to detonate them. We don't want to ever question what they are. But by doing that, we've gone into Narnia. We've gone to this land where we're kind of pretending that there's not advantages. Because no, you're a woman, you say you're a woman, you're a woman. So you could have a penis, you could have functioning testicles, you could still be a woman. Like that's the reality of like we saw what happened in prison when they put that biological male in women's prison he impregnated two of the inmates. It's like a dick literally as a woman in a woman's prison. It's like we've gone. That's Narnia. Okay, now we're in Gotham. Gotham's got to get.

But it's easy to get to that level before we're willing to get. But I think it's again, it's one of those things where it becomes like people get ideological about what you accept and what you don't accept. I feel like, personally, we should accept anything that doesn't hurt other people. Like, what you're doing, whatever you say, if that makes you feel better, I'm with you. As long as it doesn't hurt anybody else, why would anybody care? I don't care at all. I just don't want you to use that as an advantage against other people and not admit that it's an advantage, especially in fighting. And fighting that's one, that's one that really bothers me. Power sports. It's not just a power sport. It's like the size of your hands is so goddamn important in terms of how hard you can hit. It's so important. If you look at the big strikers, like no one has tiny hands. Yeah. They all have like Mike Tyson as you. Fucking mallets, you know, George Foreman had some of the biggest fucking. They were like canned hands. They were huge hands. You don't grow that. If you live your life as woman, and then transition to male, it doesn't work that way. Or if you are just biologically female, you're whole life. But if you're a biological male and you're built like Brock Lesnar, and then you decide to transition, there is not a woman alive that can stop you. They don't exist, they never will exist. They never will exist. If you want to talk about outliers, Brock Lesnar as a woman is the outlier of all outliers, and it's too crazy. It's never going to be fair. Impossible to be fair.

It's hard. You know, there was a Thailand. Nobody wants to talk about it. Nobody wants to be honest. What do you do? And I do. So we're going to, we're going to do this. Okay. Chris doesn't work this up. There was a Mointi fighter in Thailand. And he started off his career as a he and then transitioned to be a she. And then when she transitioned to be a she, she decided to get the full operation and when she got the full operation, she lost all of her testosterone. And she started losing. Yeah. But she still was fighting men. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, which is really wild. So she went from being this elite assassin, kickboxer to all of a sudden the testosterone is completely cut off, but continues to engage in fighting because it's what she's good at and is just getting wrecked by dudes. Unfortunately, it changes the whole game.

So it does change something, right? So we know it does. But it does change enough to compete against women. That's the question, especially when it comes to fighting. I think as long as you're above board with it and tell the woman, just like in favor of Germaine to randomize fight, you do whatever you want to do. Yeah. I'm in favor of that. But if you want to talk about things like NCAA sports or Olympics or like We're in a fucking weird area here, kids. You're denying science now because you're denying the competition. Yeah, it's not just high. You're crushing someone's dreams in a way that if you, let's imagine this, if you're a wrestler and you're in a lead wrestler at 134 pounds and you're a fucking assassin, you're out there, pinning people and you're going undefeated, you become NCAA Division 1 National Champion and then you go to the Olympics and they decide we're not gonna have weight classes anymore. Because we're body positive. We can't be using the scale. We're body positive. Everybody competes against everybody. Well, now you have to go against Carolyn. So here you are. Some 134 pound really elite wrestler who should be an Olympic gold medalist and you're going to get your spine snapped in half.

On his lightest day. There's a fucking photo of Carolyn that I posted on my Instagram. I go, every now and then I look at this photo just to remind myself of what a pussy I am. And it's Carolyn, where he's got his arms wrapped around some guys' waist. And he's hoisted them up and it's a black and white photo and he has the most maniacal looking his eyes. It's fucking incredible because he was just a destroyer of men. When Carolyn was wrestling, look at that photo.

Get some. I mean, that is get some in physical form. That is, we need a giant metal image of that Jamie. We need one of those. We need that Correlan photo. Please get that poster. A giant metal print, order print. Got it. Jamie. That's badass. Look at that. It doesn't just scare the shit out of you.

Well, you need to watch this, because he was so fucking strong that guys would flatten out on the ground to try to lay down and spread themselves out to keep him from hoisting them up in the air. And he would just pick them up. Watch he would do it over and over and over again. Watch he would do it over and over again. Watch he would do it over and over again. Watch he would do it over and over and over again. So you'd go down and he would pick you up in the air again. And just watch this.

Everybody got thrown. And he just had pure dominance. He was so athletic and so strong. And he had small parents. Wow. They called him the experiment. That's what they call it. The Russians called them. Like I don't know what they did.

And they had this giant ass baby that was like, he's from another planet.

There's so many Russian fighters in the UFC. So many guys from Dagestan, so many guys from Russia, so many guys from St. Petersburg. There's a bunch of guys that came from there. I mean, you want to talk about like a part of the world that produces some incredible fighters.

Yeah. And our government's messed up. And also if we had the right attitude that were really just a community and if Republicans met Democrats just like in the regular saying, we could sit down and have them yield together. People could have like normal conversations and that's how we should be. The polarization is largely unnecessary. There's things that we disagree on, but the way that we approach those things is, like, our side has to win, and your side's full of shit, like, your side has no point. Like, they both kind of have points, and I can see the merits of both arguments, almost all issues. Both full of shit, and they both have points. And they're both being co-opted by giant businesses, and you're pretending you're not.

You know what it's like? It's like you remember Charlie Brown and Lucio is used to pretend that she's gonna hold that football. Right when Charlie Brown goes to kick it, she yanks it away.

Every week with suckers. We're such suckers. We just go to kick that fucking ball.

Yeah, I mean, I voted. I voted the last two elections. I voted libertarian. I was a vegetarian and I'm very maxed. And it wasn't that I thought the libertarian had a chance to win. It was just like, what are we doing? I couldn't win this. I couldn't win. There's so much of it that I was like, what are we doing? Like, these are our choices. And like, no one's saying anything that resonates with the way I feel the world is. We have real problems in this country, but we always have money for other countries. Whenever I should, I'm not saying we shouldn't help Ukraine. We most certainly should help Ukraine. Right? Yeah. They're being attacked. Yeah. But where's the money to help the inner cities? Where's the money to help these fucked up communities that have been this way since like the Civil War? Like where's the money to fix the education system?

Young kids are crippled by these fucking student loans that didn't know what they were doing. Now there was reading some article about this lady that's $250,000 in debt.

That's, it's nuts. It's like there's a lot of people like that out there that are crippled by student debt. Like, should we really like saddle them down with that when they're 18? They don't even understand the concept of time. And I can't even use those degrees. You know, there's people that are 65 years old that are getting social security and their social security is getting docked because they owe money for student loans. student loans the only loans you always load no matter what even if you go bankrupt if you go bankrupt you like have a lot of credit card debt because a way you could do that with those decisions you a business can go under you

You're just an individual. Because they think they think so many people would just go bankrupt. You'd go fuck this. I'm just going bankrupt. That is not good for anybody. And how you can't think that I don't think that education should be necessarily I don't know if it should be free. Maybe you should have to put in some effort to get it so that you ensure that people do. That's one thing that that changed my mind a lot during the pandemic is I used to be like very pro universal basic income until I saw how many people didn't want to work. So they got COVID money and as soon as they got unemployment, I was like, ha, wait a minute, hold on.

That's so crazy.

We did, we do have a problem with this generation feeling entitled. Like I've heard people talk about that. They're entitled. because they they talk about what they say is disparagement of wealth wealth inequality and there this right yeah there's definitely wealth inequality but then they decide that the billionaires have enough money so none of us should ever have to work

That's like good for you. It's not even good for you. Believe it or not. If you want to be happy in this life, I think you have to have tasks and you have to try to achieve those tasks and you have to work towards things and you have to do things that challenge you and excite you and whether that's an artistic pursuit or whether it's a physical pursuit, whatever it is. it's my belief and it's just my opinion that in order to be happy you have to occupy yourself with difficult things and enjoyable things and also have a great community of loving people those are the ways to be happy yeah you don't get happy just by the fucking billionaires giving you money you're gonna be miserable if you just have all the money you need for food and shelter and you don't ever have to work do you know how many people would just ruin their lives and never do anything and wake up when they're like 70 like oh my god I did nothing A lot of people would manage a trap. It's a trap. It's a trap with humans. Humans have some traps that we kind of identified. You know what's really interesting. My friend Yoni sent me this video. Apparently monkeys share in human beings like percentages of alcoholics when they're exposed to alcohol. It's really similar. Oh, dang, I never heard that. That's cool. He sent me this, I'll send it to you, Jamie. It's pretty dope. But it's monkeys. When they live around resort areas, they steal the drinks. The people leave on the tables and the bars and shit. And they've been doing it for so long. They've become alcoholics. So these monkeys are running around. It's pretty interesting. But what's, it is a real thing. But what's really interesting is that the monkeys that drink the most are the monkeys that are respected. Do you got it? Yes, that's it. That's exactly it. Alcoholic ververt monkeys. Weird nature BBC animals on YouTube. So these monkeys are just stealing drinks and they're getting hammered. But what's weird is the monkeys that get the most fucked up are the monkeys that are the most respected. It's like they're they're fucking they're they're they're their heroes are the dudes who get smashed look at them.

It's really funny man and it this video like they're constantly breaking glasses They knock glasses over and in these areas where you know these monkeys live where tourists are they're just getting fucked up all the time But they said that some of them realize that alcohol's for not not for them. And it's a very similar percentage as human beings. That's pretty cool. The ones that are really addicted to it, very similar percentage as human beings. But other ones, they only gravitate towards like soda, like they find like soft drinks. The vast majority are social drinkers who indulge in moderation and only when they're with other monkeys but never before lunch and prefer their alcohol to be diluted with fruit juice 15% drink regularly and heavily and prefer their alcohol neat or diluted with water.

The same proportion drink little or no alcohol. 5% are classified as seriously abusive binge drinkers. If they get drunk, start fights and consume as much as they can until passing out. As with humans, most heavy drinkers are young males, but monkeys of both sexes and all ages like a drink.

A lot of people are. A lot of people are, but they think that it's like very similar to the numbers that they find in humans. That's pretty wild.

Wait, that was drinking is it's fun. It's real fun people drink because it's fun like the idea of not drinking at all. I'm like it's slow down

Good. You don't want this.

Yeah. Super competitive dudes. I remember there's like there's times in your with competitive guys and they ought to get competitive with the drinking too.

We drank until Andy fell asleep at the bar. I just stood up like this. victory mother fucker winner we went unconscious at the bar that's all my god yeah we started it sushi he's great and he's great he's an awesome dude So we were talking about like, you are the way you felt the way you felt what you felt like you were a woman and then this was wrong like you were in the wrong body or the wrong something's off.

There was no real examples for you to follow that. There's nothing, right? There's nothing. And there's no real examples. The tennis player?

Well, in a lot of ways, you're a great example, too, because there's this dialogue, there's this narrative that people are indoctrinated. Yeah, that's what I was getting out of. Yeah. And then you clearly were not indoctrinated. I was in a bubble.

It was the opposite of indoctrinated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I could only imagine. Now, when did you start expressing it outwardly?

Did you try to find with any books on other people that were in a similar situation? There's no books on it that you found. Where would you find it? Where would you find it?

So you didn't know that it was a thing. No.

So you gravitate towards those things.

Well, what's fascinating is you're really, really honest, right? So when you're talking about this, and it's unquestionably a courageous thing to live your life very publicly the way you do and talk about this, especially as a seal. I hate that word courage applied to just being out, but just being authentically yourself, no matter what you do, takes courage. No matter if you have, they do a job because their dad wants them to do it. And they keep they stay in that fucking business until the resentful and old and they realize they they fucking waste their life. I don't want I don't want that for anybody and with that whatever it is, whether it's your gender identity, whether it's your your occupation, whether it's where you live, you should express yourself and live you life the way you want to live and we should all share that that that need to let people be who the fuck they aren't and to listen to what they're saying. So when someone like you who wasn't living in this world today where, you know, people worry about that it's so high profile and there's so much social status attached to it and there's a lot of discussions about it where it's like in the social zeitgeist and it's just a strong way. But your situation illuminates the very real dilemma that someone has when they're in your spot or they know is very real.

Yeah, that's me. Why would you lie? Why would you lie about that?

What happened?

So they did not want to accept you when you changed.

Do you think that that would happen today?

That's interesting, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. In the world, change in eight years. In many ways, you are, I mean, you're a pioneer in that way. Yeah. Right.

So there's no dress code. There's no dress code. It was a women tie. If a woman wanted to wear a suit and tie, she could as well. Oh, yeah, could have. Right. And so did you decide to wear a dress to sort of broadcast? Yeah. Yeah.

And when you did decide to make the move, did you feel differently? Did you feel freer?

Right. You're trying to, and you wear a wig. Yeah.

Because as soon as you go out, you're like, cutting your eyes, you're like, nighttime jump, did anybody have a meeting with you or didn't talk to you about it? Nobody. Everyone just kept quiet.

Well, you can speak to that.

I know what you're saying. I just show it up. But you're uniquely qualified to judge that word from being a seal. That gives you a unique, I mean, there's no doubt seals are clear. It's like the word here. Right.

Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Clown show for sure. But I just, yeah.

Is there a fear that they have when someone does something like that, that where they worried that maybe you, from combat duty, like some sort of serious mental issue? Like I had a huge break or something. Right.

And it didn't affect the way you did your job. No. So what was why didn't they eventually just accept it?

It's very distracting, diminished your ability to do your work.

Let me ask you this though. If you were supported and if they said, you know, hey, Chris, we're Kristen is better. Like, let's go with Kristen. We're happy. And we love you. We accept you. We think you do great work without a bin like easier. Like maybe you wouldn't have had all this shit on your mind because you felt like, hey, these people that believe in me and I've been a colleague of them for years, they just accept this is just a new thing. Yeah. Maybe it will relax you.

I really appreciate that. I really appreciate that you have that honesty because I think this is such a unique window into someone who's experiencing this that for you to be very honest about how it affected the way you did your job. That I think that's really important in that community for that. I think it's really cool.

And I still doing this. Well, you know, we talked about the Heoka earlier. That was also a thing in the little coat of people that they had a third gender. Yeah. Yeah. They then they praised those people because they had traits of both and you could see into both sides. So they could see how a woman would look at it and they could see how a man would look at it. And they they valued them for their wisdom in that regard that they had a unique vision.

Just stop and think about people that were Lakota's living on the plains. In the 1700s, why would they invent something like that?

I mean, if there's a better test case, please show it to me. If you want to have the clearest example that people were literally, they were hunters and gatherers.

Erika.

And it's that small number. Transgender people as well.

That totally makes sense. I mean, there's obviously a spectrum when it comes to all sorts of issues with human beings. Why wouldn't there be a spectrum when it comes to that? Why wouldn't there be some people that sort of identify more in a feminine side, but also understand the masculine side? It makes sense. Because it's real. It should be like it should be just something that people just accept I Think the things like the swimming issue and the sports issue in the Olympics that like that's one of the dividing things It's a sidetrack, but unfortunately it puts a wedge into what should be live your life like you want to live your life as long as it's not hurting anybody. Yeah, as long as it's good for you. It's like that's what you like good God bless. That's how we really should treat all of it. And I feel like, unfortunately, when it gets to things like sports, where people are like, hey, hey, hey, now you're getting ideology in the way of fairness and the way of really quality. Like the quality that a woman has to be able to pursue athletics against other women. Things are getting squirrely.

Correlan.

But see if you can find his people. Show what they're telling next to his parents.

Well, there's a natural tendency to people have to pick on people that are different. That's a natural tendency. And most of it comes from insecurity. It comes from You don't ever want to be the person that gets picked on. So when you see an opportunity to pick on someone, especially like you see young young kids in the playground, that's what they do, right? They find the one boy who's weird and they pick on them. It's totally like a, if we could figure out a way to show how pathetic that really is and how bad that is. And that's like the only reason why you're doing is because you're insecure. Like if you were really secure, you wouldn't want to do that. You'd want to protect that person and go, come on, leave alone. What do you give a shit? What's the problem here? But it's that that's the problem. The problem is these people that are really afraid of their own masculinity or whether or not it's solid, whether or not they're respected or whether or not, you know, they're insecure. So they see someone who seems to be more insecure than them and they attack it. Check and do that, man. It's a pecking order. Dogs do that. They find a cowardly dog. They'll bite that dog. They'll chase them and grow at them. It's a horrible tendency in nature to try to find, you know, find someone that they can exert their will over.

You can see the dogs have been affected by human being because they most certainly have. You have a German Shepherd that German Shepherd is obviously a dog that is like highly trained. highly selected for breeding and super intelligent like you'd see that dog walks in that dog is scanning the area that's not like my dog my dog is totally different kind of dog but a wolf has not been affected by people yeah a wolf is just a fucking wolf and wolves do it they attack small they're the beta wolves they kill them yeah they drive them out of the wolf pack if they think they're not doing their job they get rid of them yeah if they have like some bitch ass wolf that lays back and doesn't join the hunt they get rid of them

Yeah. But the thing is, sometimes the guy who doesn't want to get in the hunt, who lays back, can figure out how to make an airplane. Yeah. Or can develop a computer chip, or maybe they have some people. Yeah. Some people aren't meant to be like physically courageous and bad asses. Some people are meant to be coders, like they're fascinated by computer languages. They're fascinated by technology and innovation and trying to find better solutions to things. That's their arena.

Well, you could try. They don't think that football is like, they're going to get killed.

Well, some things are true. Like, if everything had a front fan hurts, that's not really subjective.

Really? I have a thicker skull. Do you have a thicker skull than me? Are you sure? Maybe not. This is things that I'm going to let slide.

But I think they also more open-minded. I think in some ways they're more accepting of things. So in some ways it's better. But I think there's all sorts of issues. Maybe not. I think it's a fear-based thing. I think they submit to the will of their tribe, they accept an ideology, and they push it with all sorts of aggression. Tell science, both science do. When people want to only look at transgenders as a mental illness, you're pushing it the other way, just as crazy. That's crazy too. It's a mental, why? Well, if it makes them actually happy, how is it an illness? How do we not know that people have different ways? Like some people love music that I think is dog shit, right? So what is happening? Well, what is happening when they hear that music and they love it? There's something that I cannot deny their love of this thing. I cannot, they think things differently. People like all sorts of different clothes that other people don't like. They're attracted to different ways of life. They're attracted to different ways of communicating. Why wouldn't they be varied in their gender? It only makes sense.

Libertarian. Yeah, not just that, but support it. Go ahead. I support you. I live your life. I want you to live your life. That's what we need to concentrate on more than anything. And then once we do that, we realize we don't have nearly as many enemies as we think we do. Most people are good people. That's the only way we could ever exist on a highway or in fucking cities and streets. If everybody was bad, we'd be just murdering everybody. We'd be chaos. We'd be bloodbathed and streets. But it's not. Generally, most people get along fine. Like today, we just met just met your girlfriend, you met Mercy, you met Phil, you met all these people. Everybody's friendly, everybody's great. That isn't that most of life.

The thing that separates us is groups. The idea that we're in the American group versus the Russian group like one day I think what technology what what they're probably scared of when they really want to avoid is that there will be no boundaries. between physical experiences, languages, you could be able to travel wherever you want, money will be decentralized, they'll have no control over people anymore. And then people will govern based on what's good for people. And they'll figure that out. But it might take a thousand years. I don't, I don't that too. But I think that we have to get to a point where we just realize that a lot of our tendencies towards a aggressive behavior towards people with opposing viewpoints is a tribal thing and it's a natural part of human behavior characteristics that exist in primates and it's not good and there's ways to get around it and there's ways but it takes a long road and when someone gets through it like you Or someone gets through it like someone else that might be exemplary and you can you could see how they can they can give you some insight as to their struggle and maybe we can all take that into consideration and just treat people a little nicer. Just be cool.

By the way, that guy gets misquoted left right now. Everybody thinks he's like some evil Satanist. Nietzsche gets quoted all wrong. Tribes Seth Goden is at it. Tribes we need you to lead us. Is that it? Which one is this?

Oh Sebastian Younger tribe. Okay. Yeah, that is.

I mean obviously when he filmed Restrepo and he's been involved in reporting from a lot of like very hostile and dangerous places. He's seen a lot of things and his insight into the camaraderie that soldiers share with each other is so unique and that book really does a fantastic job of highlighting that and expressing that this is like a natural part of people and that we have so much history of that kind of life like there's more history of people being at war than there is people not being at war there's zero history of that

It's crazy. We don't want to look at it that, but if you really objectively look at what happens when you go tribal, that's what happens. You get to this fucking point where you have to be a war. Everybody's a war with everybody else. All the time. All throughout history. There's not one time in history. You know, there were everybody's just, hey, let's be cool. That's pretty sad. That might be possible, though. But I think it's only going to be possible if we stop being people. And I think that's inevitable anyway.

Not necessarily, though. I think I think there could be a tribe of Earth. But it's got to get to, we need to be aliens. We're going to become them. I think that's what's going to happen. I really do. Something's going to happen. I think that's what's happening with, I mean, if you look at, there's a real problem with humans right now with contamination from plastic. And that was highlighted by this woman, Dr. Chana Swan, who wrote this book Countdown, which is terrifying. I don't know if she doesn't want to found that, but she's the one who did the studies on Thalates. Thalates or chemicals that come from plastics that are directly attributed to a changing of the child in the womb. So when the mother has a lot of thalates in her system, it shrinks the penis eye, shrinks the testicle size, shrinks sperm counts, and there's like a direct correlation with her research highlights, and she's legit. Is she from Harvard? Where's she from? She's like brilliant lady and really fun like really fun lady. She's hilarious like on her like she talks about the reduction in sperm counts. So on her Instagram page has a thing called the giz quiz. So she makes it fun. She's a fun lady. But she's also a brilliant scientist. Um, um, okay. She's the one of the world's leading environmental and reproductive epidemiologists and a professor of environmental medicine and public health at the Ikan school of medicine at Mount Sinai in New York City and where she get her education from either way.

The book is terrifying. Yeah, by the way. It's terrifying. Baddest. Because it's essentially saying that we're going to become those aliens. We're going to be these genderless, weird bodies with no testosterone. Like it seems like there's a reduction in testosterone that's apparent because these plastics, but also just as disturbingly, women seem to have more mischarges than ever before. And they think that that's also correlated to this chemical exposure to plastic. We found out we did it. We were talking about the other day like we were guessing because we remembered that a certain amount of time passes and you meet in a credit card where the plastic Jamie thought it was a year. I thought it was a month. It's a fucking week one week one week. You can't every week the average human being it's a credit card sized piece of plastic because you consume so many microplastics and so many different things We're just, and it's in our bloodstream. And it's also, it does all sorts of weird stuff to your hormones. It's terrible for you. And it's inevitable. Like we're all eating it. And it's like, we're all drinking water at a bottle of water bottles. Heating things up microwaves at a covered in plastic and all that shit is leaking into food. And this woman is saying, like, hey, this is new data. And I believe, was it 2013 when they published that Jamie? Do you remember it was 2015, man? It's craziness. The thalates study where they finally realized that they could make a direct correlation in mammals. And then also, they could see it in human beings. But in mammals, they know that if you introduce thalates into the woman when she has a baby, 2009. So in 2009, they figured this out. And so that's not that long ago, man. 13 years ago, they're just going, holy shit. We're fucked because there's a direct correlation between the introduction of petrochemical products and these thalates and then this decrease in penis size, decrease in taint size, your taint tranks up. No. Yeah, that's crazy. One of the best ways to determine a male versus female in a baby, a mammal, is the size of the tank. A male's tank is 50 to 100% larger than the females. Wow. So when their tanks are shrinking on the males, and the penis is shrinking on the balder shrinking, and they find thalates, they're like, oh my God, something's going on. So what do you think about what society is? Or it's filled with plastic? The more technologically advanced we get, the more we have plastic this and plastic that, microchips, it's look on that. Well, that stuff's getting into our bodies and that stuff is making us become genderless. We're slowly but surely going to become that weird fucking alien with the big head. No genitals.

That's not. So I think this literally, the thing about people being accepting now is good, but they're not accepting of other people's opinions. There's a desire today to shut down other people's opinions. And to, I mean, do you identify as conservative? Or would you say your political leaning zone? Libertarian.

They identify as conservative. Yeah. They take a rash a shit. But there isn't that that old expression, you know, find me a young man as a conservative and I'll find you a man without a heart. Find me an old man who's a liberal and I'll find you a man without a brain. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, but I don't think that's really there. So like you could be liberal, but you got to be a pragmatist. Like you can, I'm both.

No, he's accountable. And then there's also not a lot. The life that you lived, where you were a seal, is all about accountability. Honest in account of that? Yeah. I mean, Jaco says extreme ownership. Yeah, always.

If I messed up, punch me in a face. Yeah. Yeah. But that takes, that's hard. That's a hard life. Right. And a lot of people want that soft, cushy life. Yeah. You know, they'd rather be body positive.

You don't want anybody punching you just for opening the door. That's ridiculous.

Yeah, well, I mean, I see what you're saying. But yeah, accountable. It was extreme.

Discipline is something that one of the things that I love about guys like Goggins and Jaco is like, they preach from the altar of discipline. And discipline equals freedom is one of my favorite Jaco quotes. And it's such a great quote because it's true. If you have discipline, you have more freedom. You get the things done. You're also not as haunted. You know, when you have discipline and you get stuff done, those things don't fuck with your head. Like, I know people that are putting stuff off and they know, oh, eventually.

Yes. Always. It's always hanging over your head. Like, when you had this thing where you felt like you were a woman and you wanted to express that and it's hanging over your head and you're not doing it. Like, it's probably occupying. Always. With every thought, right? Yeah.

Yeah, that's why it's so important for people to be themselves. Like someone who lives a life where they wish they were doing something else. God, that's a torturous existence.

You can never be in the moment.

Well, it's that so overwhelmingly difficult that like it forces you to completely focus on that one thing. Yeah, so maybe in some ways is like a therapy.

Disappointing the practice. And I think those things have to be difficult. Yeah. Like when you're full, like if you're in the middle of something that's really hard to do, that's one of the things that I really love about archery. Archery's difficult. So like when you're drawn, on that bow and you're in position. You can't think of anything else. It's the same thing with folks. When you're making a shot and you're playing pool, all you're thinking about is making that cue ball collide perfectly with that ball and knock it in the hole. This is the same with you, Jitsu. When someone's trying to strangle you, you're not thinking about anything other than getting out of this fucking choke. You're not thinking, God, I got to clean the garage. You're getting fucked up. You're getting fucked up. That's all you can think of. And that in a way is cleansing. you know, and that in a way like any kind of extreme, like a lot of my friends that do like ultra marathons and shit, they'll tell me that like when that's over, they don't have a care in the world. Like that is so hard that everything else is nothing.

Yeah, I think a lot of people use very, very difficult pursuits as a form of therapy, as a form of like understanding who they are, but you find yourself through hard things. That's why I like when I would tell people just do something difficult. I'm telling you, I know you don't want to, but it's good for you. But the problem is also people don't like people telling them what to do. So when telling you to do difficult things, like fuck you, smoke weed and play video games, and you think you're being a rebel, but you're really fucking yourself over. Like you really should do whatever you want to do, but you should want to do something difficult. Because if you do, you'll be better off. Your life will be more interesting. There's a part of being a human when we like solving problems and we like getting better at stuff. Whether it's getting better at writing, it's getting better at playing music, whatever the fuck your thing is. Yeah, we like to improve it stuff. And why doesn't make sense? It doesn't have to make sense. Trust that there is a thing that you can do that makes you happier. And one of those things is work hard. It sounds crazy, but and physically work hard. You need to do something physical, something, whether it's going hikes, do some pushups, take a yoga class. You need something that makes your body drain itself of extra bullshit.

What is Rudy Reyes?

I know for a fact that, well, I don't know for a fact, I've read it, that more people died in suicides that were veterans than in combat duty. Yes. You know, Afghanistan. Definitely. That's crazy. Way more. That's crazy. Yeah.

Is there coaching when you get out? Like, is there anybody that gives you any sort of guidelines about it?

A friend of mine who was a seal told me that seals experience PTSD less because they're proactive versus reactive. He said the people that experience it the most are the people that are locked down in a place where they're under fire and they feel helpless and they feel trapped and they develop these these tendencies more often. And he was saying with seals, also that they're very high functioning, very disciplined, people who can adapt, that they're a little bit better off at doing it. But then there's also physical things. Like we were talking about, you know, TBIs. Yeah. Like TBIs, absolutely a bad TBIs. I'm sure. Most soldiers, do you know about the warrior angel foundation of you heard about their work?

Well, Andrew Martin and my friend, Dr. Mark Gordon, they put together this foundation.

A lot of it they're dealing with the fact that so many veterans come back that have experienced a lot of impacts, whether it's, you know, breaches or any, you know, IDs, they develop endocrine problems. Because they're a battalion, it's damaged. And so so many of these guys are super depressed because they're testosterone, stop production. I gotta look into that. Yeah, they're also the growth hormone of a lot of things are way off because, you know, we find that in fighters too. The impact, yeah, football players, the impacts, they destroy your endocrine system. And so they're so sad. They're just like super depressed. And then you deal with TBI on top of that and CTE, which is so prevalent in people that you would never expect it in. It's one of the things we're finding about fighters. CTE is super prevalent.

I'm sure.

Maybe I may have had so much. I don't remember. She's like, you know, I heard your podcast. You remember everything. TVI.

It's, um, I mean, They say people get TBI from fucking jet skis. Mark Gordon was telling me that, you know, you don't realize that just if you're jet skiing every weekend, your brain is rattle around your fucking, especially if you like, I see these crazy dudes on the lake that jump over other people's wakes. It's like, shhh! Oh, that stuff is your brain rattling in your head. You don't think you're getting hit, but your brain thinks you're getting hit.

Oh, and the knives are on the website as well, or knives.

So are you like do you have the like the whole deal where you forge the metal and hammer it down? Oh, shit. Yeah. I can show you some videos. That's why. It's pretty fun. This is kid who sent me a hatchet once camp-ax. It's Hoffman blacksmith. Go to Hoffman. I think I have one of his hands. Yeah, he sent me a camp-ax. It's pretty dope.

We'll find out when Jamie pulls it up. But his, he was a young guy at the time. I think he was like really early 20s. He sent me this long time ago. And that's it, Hoffman Blacksmithing. So, uh, we have, yeah, I have one of his hammers. So if you go down, scroll down a little bit, you'll see some videos of him. See, there he is. There's his axis in shit. His videos of him doing it.

Okay, so they're taking these things and then slamming them in this press and then the hammer them down. It's pretty dope, man. It's really- I love watching people make shit. I really do. It's so interesting.

That's how they, they're, they're getting the hole in the center where the ax handle goes through. This is fucking cool. It's drifting the whole yeah, so I love watching shit like this.

Oh, different guy. It's got to be so satisfying to do something with a utensil or an item like an axe or whether it's a knife, something you made yourself. Yeah. That's pretty fucking cool. That's really interesting. I'm just I'd love watching people create things. I think there's there's something about a human being and creating things that's like so satisfying whether you're making a house or furniture like there's a video I watched the other day of some guy making a very small log cabin in the woods.

This guy making a cabin. It's like, I think I saw it on dig and it said that it was like oddly satisfying. Oh, yeah, it is oddly satisfying. But what is going on with people? What are your knives?

You know, Andrew at half-face blades? Half-face blades is a dope company that is also run by a seal. He makes killer like kitchen knives, chefs knives, hunting knives, he makes really killer shit and it has his half-face blades logo on it.

That's fucking cool. There's something really cool about watching that hot red metal too.

That sounds interesting. Where do you do that? Oh, here I'm making a sword.

If you ever watch like those videos of the Japanese masters creating, how would they do it though? What is the deal with the folding? Why is the folding help? Can you tell me that?

That's so super sharp. That's an argument with the broadheads for arrows for archery. Because there's some broadheads that they make a really hard metal, but it breaks when it hits bone where other bend around the bone. the wiggle around the bone and started to prefer those.

So it does a bunch of different things you can do.

It isn't an interesting how people get so excited about tools.

Yeah, yeah. There's something about that that's like it's deeply satisfying to human beings to watch people create tools. You know, and it probably speaks to our past, you know, probably. Yeah, I mean, when, you know, there's this guy, J.M. Whitworth, we pulled up his page before. He's got a place out here in Texas and a huge ranch and they sift through the dirt. They have this very like sophisticated method of finding arrowheads. Oh, cool. And they found a shit ton of them. He sent me a couple of them. They're really cool. But they're like these, like soups, like, look at this. Look at this one right here. Perfect. So these arrowheads that they're finding are amazing. And they're all like you got to think like how much craftsmanship is involved. Look how they found that there. How much craftsmanship was involved in making. Look at so that he found you look in the sift.

Look at that one man. Look how delicate that is. That's incredible. And look at this perfect. Look how you can see through when he holds it up the light.

Well, because the Kemanci's role, Rome is his land. This is the thing about the Hill Country, and I found this out originally from reading Empire the Summer Moon, which is this incredible book about the history of the Texas Plains and the Kemanci's and all the Kemanci's. They roam this area specifically, because there's so much resources with the lake and the river and the Colorado River goes through this rich with wildlife. A lot of Texas has desert, right? A lot of Texas is just flat and there's not a lot out there. But here it was so rich with life that they were, they're out here all the time in the Hill Country. So they find a fuckload of their hour heads. This was like a special place. Huntgrounds. Yeah, but it's also like so hilly. It's so different than any other place in Texas. It's very different. A lot of Texas is flat, but this is like through all these beautiful hills and everything's green. It rains all the time. And all that shit contributes to wildlife. And so it was a rich area for them to settle in. So they call it a marathon. Oh my god, it must be amazing to actually dig into the ground and find one. Yeah. I found one once, man, when I was on a hunting trip in Nevada, I found a small piece of an arrowhead and I fucking lost it. I don't know what happened. I put it somewhere and I fucking lost it.

Yeah. Crazy thing is when you see a meggle on tooth, you'll what the fuck is that? And they're always fossilized, right? They're all mineralized, so they're black, and it's this big ass.

That's my same feeling about big food and UFOs. My problem is I want them to be real so bad. Yeah, yeah. Then I don't look at it objectively. And what's that bias?

Yeah, but it's also what's just you want you want a very specific thing out of the data. Yeah. And so you look for that and then you are you it. But now I fight against that in myself. So when I get all balls deep in UFOs, then I have to back off with a way to manage what are you doing. You're believing this because you want it to be real.

Again, I commend you on your honesty because we all do and it's it's important to be able to say that and people don't like the idea of them being incorrect or holding ideas like I told you about that stupid fucking thing that I was obsessed with for God is at least a year the worms. I can't see this because it's so stupid. I do my last minute. I find it flying rods. One time I was doing this thing for the UFC and I was doing a question and answer thing at one of the weigh-ins and this guy who was the guy who made that documentary weighted and fucking line to tell me that his rods thing was real. And you're wrong Joe Rogan. They're really out there. I'm like, dude. They have video that shows the things right next to the same camera that shows no thing. It shows bugs. Like they know for a fact that one camera which was very fast camera can see the bugs and catch them in their motion. The other one blurs it. It's a video artifact. That's what they look like. Look at that. I like that, like that right there. What is it? Flying rods, skyfish, a moth. Do you see it in slow motion? See how it flies through? You'd say, oh my God, you would say, there's rods with wings they're flying through the air. But no, that's just a video artifact that's a bug with wings. And it flies by and you see it and you think that it's an alien. What does this move in too fast for your eyes?

Yes.

Which is probably what that gravity drive thing is. If Bob was ours telling the truth, or if the tic-tac people are being accurate with what they're seeing, that thing that just punches through space and time, that's probably operating in that way, whether it's ours or someone from another dimension or another galaxy or whatever the fuck it is that's doing that.

I don't think they're being dishonest about the pyramids. I mean, they never say we know how they made it. They say these people made it. They were highly skilled and they had incredible ability to align things and they did it and they did it 5,000 years ago with the fucking no explanation of how they're going to excavate and around them to try to figure out what all the subway tunnels are below the pyramids. They're not. It doesn't seem like they looked at it.

Well, there's a guy that's in charge of all that stuff down there. This guy, Zawi Hawas, and he's very reluctant to accept any alternative theories other than the ones that they've been promoting forever. And so Graham Hancock has said issues with him as has Robert Schock, Dr. Robert Schock from Boston University. He was with the geologist that examined the Temple of the Sphinx and was saying that there's water erosion here.

But no, no, no. It's the outside. It's the temple. This fangs is these giant blocks and these giant blocks. They have real evidence of water erosion.

They don't necessarily know. But the evidence shows that there is some thing that looks exactly like water erosion, according to geologists. So they're looking at like, there's people that dispute this, I should say. This is very important to say, but they don't seem to be, there's a denial of the reality of what you're looking at. Like if you look at like, see if you can pull up a video of water erosion in this fanks. The images are so interesting because it really does look like what something would look like if water cut through it. Like there's a smoothness to it and it goes in these fissures that look but the last time there was water in the Nile Valley was 9,000 years ago. So if that's true then it has to be thousands of years of water to create this. So if Dr. Robert Chock from Boston University, who is a geologist, is correct that all that erosion is caused by thousands of years of rainfall, which means that thing is way older than I think it is, because that means that those stones were cut somewhere earlier than 9,000 years ago, because it had to be thousands of years of rainfall to create that. So because of the fact they know that during that time, that there was rainfall, it used to be like a tropical rainforest down there, which is also really interesting, right?

Probably right.

Well, China itself. I mean, think about the fact that they've been around that that's one continually operating business. It's pretty goddamn impressive pretty wild. What are the other one point four billion people and they've been around for?

How about when they do these digs and they find like a whole porcelain army? That's awesome. That is wild shit. You find like thousands and I always do that. Why did they do that? Like look at that. They buried those.

Chinese ancient pyramids reveal their stunning secrets, Fox News, and this is all these... Ah, it's Fox News.

That's like these trenches filled with these soldiers that are made out of porcelain. It's wild.

I wonder how they found it in the first time. It's just the human, the history of the human race is so fascinating. And, you know, Graham Hancock has this amazing saying that I think it's a pretty accurate. He says that we're a species with amnesia. And I think there's only so much that we have written down that we can 100% rely on when it gets, when you get back to like, 4,000 years ago, 5,000 years with this stock.

It's just guessable. Does your dog have to pee? You've been in here quite a while. It's pretty cool that you have this dog that's that trained. It's really interesting. How long have you had him?

He's so well behaved and so so you. He likes his focused on you. He doesn't give a fuck about me.

Well, Kristen, we've been doing this for three hours. I'm glad we did this. It was really cool. I really enjoyed it.

We definitely do it again. I really enjoyed it. And I think it's cool for Pete. You have a very unique perspective. you know, becoming a seal and then transitioning while you're, you know, in civilian life, working as a contractor and explaining, oh, this is very, it's very valuable for people to hear. And your honesty, like I said, really should be commended because it's hard. It's hard to be, it's hard to just just open yourself up to people like the way you have. But I think you've done a lot of people, a great justice by doing that because it, I think you do. I think it, it really do. I think it helps people. It also like, There's a lot of people that really, really respect veterans and really, really respect sealed. And they might be like hesitant to accept transgender people. So from hearing it from you, like they have to respect you as a seal. And then they go, well, maybe I'm wrong about this. And maybe they'll allow them to be more open-minded. And there's no weakness in being open-minded. There's strength.

Yeah. Well, it's just, we've got to find ways to, like you said, be cool.

Yes, you can pass me. And tell everybody your social media, where's the, is it, what's your website? Like what's the best way to get a hold of you or to see your stuff?

All right, um, thank you. Thanks for doing this. I'm glad we did it. It was a lot fun. I really enjoyed it.

All right. Thank you. Bye, buddy. Thanks.