Transcript for #1876 - Greg Fitzsimmons

Must one work out every day. Yeah. One must work out. One must burn 500 calories in a workout every single day. Seven days a week, 365 days. Well, 60. Oh, 30. 30 days. I'm already expanding.

Yeah. The problem with contest is the absorb your whole life. Yeah. And everybody except Ari has a family and obligations and jobs and podcasts and different things they have to do. We did it one year, the contest, and it was pretty obvious halfway in that we were fucked.

Well, it's never really behind. I mean, I might have been behind for like a day. It was so in the beginning, we were trying to figure out how much we're going to burn. You know, because we were using this my zones thing, so it's like you were a chest strap. And the chest strap gives you points with the application for however many minutes you are at 80% of your max heart rate versus 90% of your max heart rate at 90's two points, 80's one or something like that. Ari figured out that he could watch TV while you were doing cardio. So he watched movies on an iPad. Always doing cardio. Yeah.

Yeah. And so then we really started getting crazy. And then one day I did 1100 points. I did seven hours of cardio. No shit.

No, mostly elliptical machines. As we watch movies. Yeah. So watch John Wick, like 50 times. I kept rewinding it to the scene in the bath house. We killed everybody. It's just because it's so adrenaline-filled. You can keep going. Yeah. I watch some fights. I watch a bunch of shit. And it's like, it just got too crazy. Yeah. We were losing our minds. We were really losing our minds. We were talking a lot of shit to each other. And Tom got sick. Tom got the flu. And then the day got better from the flu. You ran 13 miles. No shit. The day he got better. You ran 13 miles through his neighbor through the hills.

Yeah, yeah Yeah, we went crazy Yeah, and like if that kept going imagine if we had it for like six months We had a fitness contest for six months and at the end of six months you win like a million dollars. Yeah You could have got a sponsor for that Yeah. The problem is it would become your whole life. And we would go crazy. And Bert would die. Bert would for sure have a heart attack. Or you just beat content coming in last like he did last time. He talked a lot of shit and came in last. He did. Yeah. Yeah.

It's one of the things we talked about, Tom and I talked about specifically was that. When you do a lot of cardio in a day, like four hours of cardio in a day, he goes all the internal chatter just goes away. There's no negative talk. There's no anxiety and angst. And I really wonder how much of that that people walk around with all day could be fixed with cardio. It could be fixed with rigorous exercise. You know, when they say, um, they say weightlifting helps anxiety too. They say strength training does, but for me, it's like cardio. Cardio seems to put me in this place where it just says like, whatever. It gives a fuck. It's just like just a really peaceful It like balances out what's really important to think about and worry about. Versus like things have just sort of bouncing around your hand. You don't know if I should pay attention to that one or that one and which I freak out about the most. Every time I watch the news, every time I look at the news, I'm like, how engaged do I get here? Do I freak out about Russia? Am I gonna freak out and then my whole day I'll be a freak out? Or do I recognize that there's not a goddamn thing I can do about this? and just casually be aware of it and hope it doesn't explode. That's the dilemma. Basically every day. Yeah. Wild shit, like the rush you crane more. Most of the time I look at the news, I'm like, how much am I gonna engage with this? Yeah.

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You read that thing that Malcolm Gladwell talked about with like the honor societies that lived in like Appalachia and how many of them were involved in feuds that led like mass murders. Oh, no shit. Yeah, but the psychology behind is the most fascinating thing. He was saying that these people come like they immigrated from a part of the world. where they were herders, like they're herded animals. And when you heard it animals, you had a very different reaction to transgressions than someone who, like say, was a farmer. Because someone couldn't steal your farm. But they could steal your animals. Right. So you had to be violent in your defense of your property. Yeah. Because it could be gathered up by somebody else. So you had to constantly be vigilant and you had to be very wary of intruders because people did that all the time. Yeah. When they come in, they would steal all your sheep. When they came over to America, they carried that ethic about conflict. They were to the death. They would go to the death. They would come for you. And that's just the way they lived. Like if you stole from them, they would kill you. If you insulted them, they would kill you. And they were all living in the Appalachians. So these folks were just like, if you think about that part of the world, like, why is it so uniquely violent? Well, it's because of the people.

Yeah. They emanated from this population of people that grew up having to defend their animals. Completely makes sense.

That would also make sense while there's drunks. Yep, constantly involved in fights and long history of warfare. Yeah. You know, those are wild people, man. Wild, right? You know, you think about the people that are there are the descendants of people who've lived their thousands of years. Like that's what's so crazy about Europe as opposed to America. You know, if you're not a Native American tribes person who's on your family's land, and it's been that land for 100 years. You're fucking everyone's from somewhere else. Yeah. But if you're living in Scotland, there's a good chance that someone 400 years ago from your family also lived in Scotland. Right. Which is wild. Yeah. To the point, we're talking about this the other day. When is there going to be like, I don't know how this works, but I know that when they do a genetic test, they can find out some of your families from Eastern Europe. You have this percentage of Eastern Europe genes. This percentage of genes are from Asia. They can do that. We're like a 23 in May, right? Right. At what point timed it? Is there an American gene? It would point in time like how many generations do we have to stay in this one spot or is it just such a constant melting pot with people constantly moving into here that it never will be like you know what I'm saying like is it is it possible that people could say oh your ancestors came from America yeah This episode is brought to you by Zippercruiter. Look, patience is good at all. But if you're just sitting around waiting for everything good to come your way, well, you're going to be disappointed. And you're going to miss out on some amazing opportunities like your dream vacation. You have to work, save that money and actually plan it out. It's never going to happen if you just sit on your couch at home thinking about it and the same applies to your company. You don't want to miss out on hiring the best people for your team. And luckily, there's an easy solution that you can use. It's Zippercouter. Try it for free right now at zippercouter.com slash rogan. They'll find you qualified people for your role quickly. And once you find someone you like, Zippercouter can help put you at the front of the pack. Just use their pre-written invite to apply message to connect with your favorite candidates ASAP. So, let ZipperCruiter give you the hiring hustle that you need. See why, four out of five employers who post on ZipperCruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Just go to zippercruiter.com slash rogan to try it for free. Again, that ZipperCruiter.com slash rogan. ZipperCruiter. the smartest way to hire. This episode is brought to you by Robin Hood. You want financial security for you and your family? Well, you gotta make it happen. The world doesn't owe you a living and that's how I've always approached my finances. and you can too with Robin Hood. Robin Hood pioneered commission-free stock trading over a decade ago, and they continued to offer innovative products to help you maximize your money's potential. With over 23 million funded customers, Robin Hood is helping people build a better financial future. Robin Hood gives you complete autonomy to make investments to pursue your future goals, whatever they are. Maybe you want to look towards investing for your family's future, investing for retirement, or even a vacation to the Bahamas. We all have some bucket list items to cross off and Robin Hood has tools to help you pursue them. Investing a small amount now could make a big difference 30 years down the road. Take control of your financial future with Robin Hood. Download the app or visit Robinhood.com to learn more. Disclosure. Investing involves risk and loss of principle is possible. Returns are not guaranteed. Other fees may apply. Robinhood Financial LLC. Remember, SIPC is a registered broker dealer.

Isn't it odd? Yeah. It's kind of odd. Latino is an ethnicity. African-American is an ethnicity. Yeah. Asian is an ethnicity. But that's like being white. Like if you say, German is just white, right? Irish is just white. Yeah.

Fuck would say Saxon. I'd be like, get out of my office.

Dave Fitzgerald was a good comic. David Fitzgerald was one of the first guys that ever saw that went straight from the Alcoholics Anonymous program to stand up. Yeah. A.A. for a lot of guys acted alike as an open mic. Yeah. Dick Dardi. Dick Dardi got through comedy from A.A. Yeah. A lot of those guys did.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he would talk about it. And also, he's told us anymore.

And he had that voice. Yeah, it was very like great comedic timing. Really wrote hard was a real good writer.

Well, the thing about Boston is like, if you're a bum, they make you feel like shit. Yeah. People up there work. Yeah. They fucking work. And so if you're going to just become a comic and you're going to quit your job at the post office, you know how hard your uncle work to get you that job at the post office. How many strings you had a poll? Yeah. And then you're in, but you don't want to be in. You want to be on the road. So you're off in Maine for 75 bucks.

That's it. Yeah, and if you leave for people will be mad at you because that is a good fucking job. And you get good benefits get you like increase pay every year.

Everything with people has problems. Yeah. Everything with people. And everything with people where people get into a position of power and control other people. And decide like what other people can and can't do. It's like, whoa. Yeah. And that's where unions are strong. I mean, you don't want just money running everything because eventually money's gonna go, why we paying you this much with that? Pay a less. Yeah. You know what? If we just move our shit over to this cross this river over here, we can get people to work for a dollar an hour. Did you know that? Yeah. It would cross this amount of money to move our plan over there, but we'll get these people over there to work. They work for almost nothing. And that's what's really happening right now. Yeah. It's because money became more important. It's like Is there enough money? Like, are you making enough money? If you're, if you're doing well, like, if you're head of a corporation, doing what is this constant need to make more money next year? Yeah, how insane that is. That's so insane that they always have to continue to make more money. And that's like the ethic of the corporation. That's the whole reason to have a corporation. You have a duty to your shareholders. You're supposed to make more money.

Yeah, no winter, fuck you, Pamela. Fuck you, Pamela. It's crazy that that's how medicine is run. Yeah, that's what sells medicine. That's what sells everything. That's what sells cars. That's what's convinced you to get a new cell phone.

It's a trick. You can get sucked into it and they'll start thinking that it's the only thing. It'll start talking to you like this is all you need Greg. Yeah.

Who would you like a yacht?

And that man is weaker than you with comedy man like the thing about it that I enjoyed the most is like the camaraderie and the fun and the new material and the putting on the good shows and having a good time with everybody yeah and I'm like that is something that I feel like when I moved here, I'm like, I want to invest in that. Not just like investing in the sense of like, do it all the time and do a lot of shows with my friends like you guys last night and you know, we're gonna do Atlanta this weekend, but also like to set a place where it's like encourage, supported, and then you know that if you, there's a clear path now. It used to be how to get a guy to help you and go on the road. And you know, maybe if you did well, the club did have you back to feature, and you grounded out for as many years as you could, and you tried to get TV credits. And some guys got TV credits before they really could headline. Like me, a TV credits before I could headline. So I was headlining terrible doing a bad job, because they really didn't have 45 solid months. But now with all these podcasts, particularly like with Kiltoni and all these other comedy podcasts, like if you're in the group of people and everybody talks about you and we're all having fun. We're doing shows together. You just get entered into the ecosystem. that you get featured on podcast, and then you get whatever it is, and that's what is your funny. The whole thing is just being funny. The hardest part, once it's there, what my goal is to make it seem more obvious how you go from there to being a professional. And then having it in a way where you're autonomous, so you have your own podcast. Because if you're autonomous, then you don't have to worry about not getting cast in this thing because you had a joke about that thing. Yeah, because that holds people back. They start and you start saying, woke shit. Like, I know people that are like regular folks that will say woke shit, either on stage or on Twitter, because they want to affirm that they're in a part of this group of people that will continue to work in Hollywood. So they'll say things. So I was like, man, why are you saying that like such and such an obvious thing to say? You're saying this non-sensical fucking silly virtue signaling shit that everybody else says, but I know you're only doing it because you want to stay inside this group of people.

And it's like... And they're stating something that's obvious, like racism is bad.

But it's just like this thing that happens when people get scared. and there's a lot of attacking going on where people, they go to teams, they get into this pattern and habit of joining teams. And if you're in team Hollywood, there's one way to decide about things. It's the most progressive, most left-wing, most inclusive, most dismost that, pull it, pull it with young people, whatever kids and college think is the most important, that's what they're gonna talk about. And if you don't do that, you're fucked.

They're far trying to just get a raise. Yes. They want to go out with their friends and have fun. They want to have a fun night on the town. They want to fucking do sports. They want to do shit that they like to do. Most people don't give a fuck about most of these issues that everybody's freaking out about.

I guess Tom Brady was a giant Trump supporter and people still loved him. He was just a bad mother fucker. Even lefties who were football fans. Yeah. If he was thrown for Tampa Bay, you were fucking pumped. Right. You know, that's Tom motherfucking Brady bitch. Who cares who he's friends with? Yeah. Because he's that good. Yeah. It's like when Michael Jackson music comes on, you know, he might have been a pedophile, but it's like damn, they still play it.

Well, that I don't mean is that well, how was his performance? I don't know enough about football.

And so they stopped using him because of his protest?

But if he was the best. If he was the LeBron James of quarterbacks, if he was just like this undeniable mother fucker of mother fucker of quarterbacks, I bet he would have got away with it.

He's not elite. That's a wild thing to be good at, man. quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers is a buddy of mine. That's a very, very smart guy like shockingly smart and peaceful and like at ease and like very in the moment guy. Very interesting guy intense guy too, but you know, he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. And that dude is just like he's so present. It's very interesting. Very interesting because that job man, You've got super athletes running at your full clip trying to take you out and you're throwing a ball at people. And you're a super computer.

And you have to have like laser pinpoint precision with a spiraling ball. Yeah. Yeah. So while way to make a living.

I can see it easily. I mean, I don't know what's going on. You know, he's reading stories and news. You don't know how much of it is a horseshit.

Hmm.

Brett Farva's in deep shit. What did she do to sort of a welfare frog thing?

I mean, is that one of those? I mean, that seems like one of those ones that wouldn't just be a fine. That seems like it. If you're stealing from welfare? Yeah. Like, that's the kind of stuff people go away for, right?

And he's certainly so wealthy. Yeah. Imagine how much money he would pay to not have that happen.

Hmm.

You know he'd have this half his money. Yeah, like this scandal was about to go down right now and people found out like how much would you pay to not have that happen? Yeah Definitely me more than a million. Oh, yeah. He'd probably give you like two million. Shut the fuck up.

However, not only that, but might wind up in jail. Yeah. You know, there's a problem that needs to be addressed whenever comes to football players, fighters, combat sports athletes. is that people with CTE oftentimes have very poor decision making. It's very complex because everybody's version and severity of CTE is different. But one of the side effects of having too many concussions is you become very impulsive and you start doing risky things, risky behaviors, sometimes people get addicted to substances and gambling and a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of Makes sense. So I think risky things like this might have been exciting. You know, like you should have obviously morally known that's not the thing to do, but there's something I think for guys that've been hitting the head to any times like risky things like they just want if you're a guy and you've got all your joys at a plant football. I mean, you got all your jolly's out of being this bad ass fucking quarterback or some bad ass running back and the amount of excitement on Super Bowl day must be unfathomable to us mere mortals. To us mere mortals, the excitement of being on that field and knowing that millions of people are going to be watching around the world. Millions. And there's 50, 60,000 people in that place screaming their fucking heads off. And you're playing football at the highest level of the world. Fuck man. You want to go like that? Just go back to normal life. After he's been hitting the head 50 times,

Right. That guy is going to start gambling or a poor house is storing coke and punching traffic attendants. He's he's fucking bored out of his mind.

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Yeah. There's a lot going on.

And that pales in comparison to someone who they ship overseas to fight in war and then bring them back to America. And then just say, all right, you're done. Just go be normal now.

Yeah, would you have a hundred combat engagements with your enemy? You know, how many times did you have to shoot people? And then you come back over here in your supposed to be normal. And when I talk to guys that have served and experience combat duty, and then come over here, I'm like, well, how much counseling do you get? It's very little. Yeah. Very little guidance. You know, reach out if you need help as numbers you can call, but at the end of the day, it's like that's a complex transition to go from literal war, actual war, like shooting guns at enemy. They're shooting guns at you. You're in a foreign land. you're going through mountains, people are yelling things in the languages you don't know and you're in guns going off and you might die today or your friends might die today, but for sure people you know are going to die.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, my friend Vinnie Schwarmann put me under. He does hypnosis for a lot of fighters. He's like a mine coach for fighters. It's very interesting guy. Yeah. And he explained to me what it was. All right, let's give it a shot. So on my old studio, I lay down the couch and he talked me through like this, this, I forget exactly how he did it. But we went through this thing like, you know, you're going to be relaxed, you know this. And next thing you know, I was in like a state of mind. I was like, this is really fascinating. It's like, this is a, it's almost like you have access with someone else when someone helps you and guides you. You have access to a state of mind that you don't achieve independently or I didn't know how to achieve independently. But it's an unusual state of mind. It's a very real thing. So like when I got hypnotized, I was realizing as it was having, this is interesting because this is a very real thing. So it was almost like you're on a drug. It's like this drug that puts you in a different spot. Like, oh, here's let me unscrew you from your life. I'm going to put you over here and now look at your life. And I was like, wow, I was like, oh, this is a real way of and then someone can talk to you logically. and they can explain things to you and would make sense. I think everybody's afraid they'd wake up and no pants on and what would happen, but I don't think it works like that.

Yeah. That was amazing though. We used to watch Frank Santos. Frank Santos. Yeah. Already hit him just from Rhode Island. He was amazing.

It's like a kind of a drug, maybe a little bit, but doesn't feel scary. It just feels relaxed and you have some additional clarity, but it does feel like with someone's guidance. you're allowed to escape from your mind from your life in a weird way. I feel like that's what it is. Like when someone's talking you through it, it's like there's a thing about someone, like you're letting someone guide your brain. And this is what I said about comedy before, too. When someone's killing on stage, like when Joey Diaz is killing on stage, I'm thinking the way he's thinking. Like, that's why it's so fun. It's because I'm not really calculating anything. I'm letting him control my brain. I'm letting him and his material take me for a ride. And that's what a hypnotist is doing. So you're letting them take you for this ride of like peaceful, introspective thinking and clarity on your life. That's what that's how it felt to me. I was like, so this is like a mindset that can be achieved this way. I mean, maybe it could be achieved by yourself. I don't know how to do it. But I don't know much about like achieving psychedelic states through breathing. I really haven't really tried much other than some yoga breathing exercises that make you feel a little high. But people get they like people trip balls from breathing exercises.

Interesting. So the therapist is a capitalist. Yes. Well, I would imagine if you are tripping yourself up less, you'll make more money. I'll give you not getting in your own way. Because one of the things you find about like talented people that get freaked out by success is that they'll start to sabotage. They'll start to fuck things up. They'll show up, miss a flight. They'll start getting a little crazy. Because it's the fear of like, fucking up once you've already started becoming successful. And people start becoming self-sabbitor. If you just stop that from happening, you would just naturally have an escalation in your career. If you're good and you're getting better, you'll continue to get better. If you keep working, you keep showing discipline. You keep having new material. You'll be fine. But along the way, it's the getting in your own way stuff that fucks people up. And if you, your therapist could just pull that out. Stop getting your own way. Just not alone. You'd make more money.

Yeah, or not think about it at all like I do. Yeah, just don't think about it. I think too many people think too much about where they want to be. I just think you should think about being better at what you do. I think being better at what you do is a real thing because being where you want to be, you never feel like you're there. Trust me. No matter where you go, you always want more. It's just never ends. The only thing that makes sense to me is concentrating on being better at what you do. So for me, it's like the things that are concentrated. The most is like stand up and podcast. And then with the UFC commentary, Man, that job is like, I'm just lucky to be a professional fan. So all I have to do is just like, no, who's fighting with their styles or like, and the thing is playing out. I mean, I have very little to do with the thing. You know, so that job is just like a beautiful being a fan reaction job. But like for podcasts and comedy, if I started thinking about like goals where I want to be in four years in this net, then I'd be thinking about that instead of thinking about new material. Alright, be thinking about that instead of thinking about like, I want it like to be stimulated by this kind of guest. I want to talk to this guy about this subject. Like I'm watching this documentary and maybe I can get him to expand on that and explain it to me. Like that. That's the only way it's good to me. Like, and that's the only reason why I think it's good period. Why it works.

You just have to overcome resistance and that's one of the terms that Stephen Pressfield uses in the war of art. The war of art not to be confused with the art of war.

Yeah, and he talks about resistance. And that's the resistance is the thing that keeps you from writing. The resistance is the thing that keeps you from doing those sets that you know you should go do. You know, oh, man, it's Tuesday night. I want to go out. Go do that set. Do it. Do it. You need to do it. And then right. And then right. And then the universe will reward you. Like that feeling of resistance, the feeling you get when you write something new that you know is gonna be funny is one of the best feelings ever. It's so good. They're like, oh shit, I got one. It's like I caught a fish through the ice, you know? I can't lay. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. And so then you know that you were rewarded for overcoming that resistance but so often you just want to like jerk off or watch a movie or eat a pizza or play a video game or put it if you could just force yourself to sit in front of that fucking computer whenever I do I come up with something a punchline a tagline a new premise something, if I can just sit there for two hours, just two hours. Just drink some coffee, smoke a little weed, and just sit there for two hours. Something's gonna happen, man.

You can build on it. 100% you can build on it. Everybody think it's like what you're seeing before about being as wealthy or as successful rather as you think you should be. that everyone is as successful as they think they should be eventually. I think it's similar to that. I think you just decide that you're this person that fucks things up and you continue to fuck things up because that's your past. One thing I've said before, I had to learn very early on. Because, you know, when I was a kid, I got bullied a lot and, you know, it was kind of very timid and worried about people kicking my ass because we moved around a lot. And then I became a martial artist. And then in the process of becoming a martial artist, I realized like, I would still get nervous when I was around people who bullied me before when I was younger. I didn't feel like I should have been just like, hey, fuck face, but I was still nervous around them. Even though I knew I could kill them. I was still nervous around them because I programmed myself to feel like a loser when I was in this town when I was around these people when I was in like a certain like I had like a triggered memory and I was like oh and it made me realize like you can decide you are your worst failures or you can decide that you're you you're you right now Like all that don't hold on to that. That's a valuable lesson. It's sucked when someone kicked your ass or when you fell in your ass and looked like a fucking loser in front of everybody. But those moments are very important for who you are right now. But it doesn't mean you're still that person. Some people are never separate from their worst memories. the biggest mistakes getting their ass kicked in front. So people have gotten their ass kicked in high school and never recovered. Never recovered. Yeah. Have been a confidence mass their whole life been shell shocked from one ass kicking and especially if they just served it. You know, they're picking on some guy and he fucking beats their ass and he gets on YouTube. You might never recover. You will constantly be in your mind. You at your worst moment. Instead of having the ability to come back, talk to that guy and go, dude, I was a fucking piece of shit and you thank you for kicking my ass. You're right. You're right. I was in the wrong. I shouldn't have been a bully. I was a dick. I don't even know what I'm doing it. I'm only 17. I'm a fucking idiot. I'm growing and learning. But, uh, I'm not your enemy. Like, that was a, that's a beautiful moment that everyone's denied. Like, no one, you know, you're not going to see that YouTube video. You know, you see the video that guy who deserved it, getting his ass kicked. And for that guy, that moment when when people experience a bad moment in their life. That moment when it's something as brutal as getting your ass kicked when you deserved it. That could fucking define you forever.

This is that SNL thing is a totally different environment and if you've ever heard Jim Brewer talk about it. Jim talked about on this podcast that he would come up with premises for sketches and he'd be working on a sketch and so you have to put in like a database everything you're working on and other writers would steal those premises and write their own sketches on those premises and just like take the just hamstring and he confronted them and there was like yelling and screaming and he eventually his wife talked to mentally leaving. But Jim brewer is a great example though of a guy who because he left Sarah and live, people kind of slept on them. And they forgot that he's one of the best comics a lot. That dude is a killer. Funny man. He's so fucking good. And he's such a good guy. He's such what you see is what you get. He's a rock solid human being. He's a great guy. And he became more famous over time just through like the accumulation of videos getting out there. because he doesn't promote himself. He doesn't try. He doesn't give a fuck. He's like a genuine person. He was happy to just go and he has a legion of fans so he can go sell out comedy clubs any fucking Tommy wants. He shows up in here and there and he's just killing it for the weekend and goes back home to Jersey and relaxed. He's out in the country. And then when the pandemic hit and all the craziness in Jersey, he failed and went to Florida. He's like fuck it. Oh, I didn't know that. And now he's dead in a tornado. Oh, sorry.

Imagine we don't feel like such a piece of shit. The last stop. Why don't I feel like I should feel like a piece of shit that everybody died there. There's like how many deaths have happened? I don't think that many. Do you see, Dom Lemon was trying to talk some climate scientist into saying that this is this hurricane is because of climate science and he's like, I'm not, you know, it's not exactly how it works. Just trying to explain to you what's going on. This is the hurricane and you know, we can cover that more broadly, but

Yeah. That's a complex issue that we're in danger of getting ideologically boxed into. Because no one is ever going to deny that climate change is going to have a giant effect on humans. And it seems to be increasing.

Like it's happening. But what I'm saying is like the temperature is rising. Yeah. But what's interesting. is why people want to ignore the fact that it's always done this. Humans have without a doubt. We have an effect on that with the carbon emissions are up and who knows what the fuck the gas is in the air and all the crazy shit we do with mass production and energy consumption. But it's always been up and down. Like if you, I have this guy Steve Coonan on the podcast who's a physicist and he wasn't even a climate scientist. He's just a guy who just decided to like examine the models. And he's like, if you go like thousands of years, it's all crazy. It's all like this and that. It's up by this many degrees and down by that many years. It's like it's never stable. Ever when there was humans living in fucking caves, it was never stable. But when they were looking at it over a hundred years, you can get these crazy spikes. You're like, oh my God, look, we started using gas powered cars and I was going up and up. But if you go a thousand years, that's totally normal. All that stuff's normal. The question is how much of an impact we have on it. That's not totally being quantified. Like, they're not exactly sure. They know it's a significant impact, but they notice this happening anyway. And the Ice Age happened anyway. The Ice Age happened without us. Didn't have anything to do with us. Yeah. It's gonna happen again. Yeah. It's probably gonna happen again. It's probably this constant cycle. Ex many thousands of years. This happens and then ex many thousands of years. That happens. And that's why the fucking Sahara Desert used to be a rainforest. Do you know that? That giant ass fucking desert in Africa? That was a tropical. Yeah. It all that stuff like that. Yeah. That's a constant shifting from like these tropical rain forests into deserts. Yeah. And then back and forth over thousands, thousands of years. We just look at things this tiny little window of history. What we wrote down. What do we know? What do we know? Hot this time of years had Doris in 1822. Like we don't have satellite Doppler radar from 1822. So we have like this window of like a couple hundred years of people paying attention and writing shit down. But then when they do core samples of the earth and they find like the earth's temperature, they try to like do the calculations over like thousands of years. Like it's always shifting. It's always going crazy. This whole fucking world used to be connected in one island. Panjia. It was one big thing they think and just separated slowly and he's like, this is chaos.

It has nothing to do with electric cars. It's always changing. And if you buy one of those fucking houses on stilts, and you're in Santa Monica or the Malibu, like good luck, bitch. Yeah. What a risk you're taking. That's just gonna move.

Dude, it's so crazy. The ground in Miami and around there is porous. Yeah. Like, when the water goes up, it's going to go through the ground. Yeah. I think it's not like something's going to stop it. No, no, just going to go right through the ground. Yeah. That's a swamp. you guys have a giant awesome city on a swamp and they were told years ago they looked at it and they were like people shouldn't live here and they're like no no this is great this is great and they sold land to everybody and the crazy things they're still selling land so what do they know so the the bankers aren't stupid if they're they they would consult with people to try to figure if someone's going to default on their loans if they can sell them like property like right there on the beach because of, you know, the insurance companies get involved. Like, well, look, how much is this house?

This is this is the water and Jamie is your fucking house. This is the ocean dude.

I think it's the vibe. New Orleans is another country. I mean, it really feels like those people get to drink on the street. Yeah. They have that cool way of talking. Yep.

Dangerous crime was. Yeah. They're not doing so good with the crime. Yeah. But as far as like the vibe of the city, man, I know people that just, they swear by it. Yeah.

You know, that's why people like to visit Austin and go see the lot of music. Yeah. There's so much live music here.

There's so many talented people. Yeah. It's a it's a crazy town in that regard. But the have a thing that you could do like that is yeah, that's fun. Go have a few drinks. Go to a real thing. Yeah. The problem with Vegas is it's like everyone's like it's Vegas. So it's like you're at a 24, seven New Year's Eve show. Mm-hmm. You know, you know, those New Year's Eve shows, I don't like them. I don't do them anymore. I stopped doing them. I did one or a couple years back. Like, and they were great. Like, people were great. But there's a thing where it's like, it's new years. It's not just a show. It's like this thing on top of the show. Bigger than the show. Yeah. Everybody wants a screaming yell like, how much is it affecting your life? this weird capturing of time. And calendars and watches and cell phones. Like how weird is that? Because it's just time is this right there. Right now, that's it. That's time. All that other shit. Like this here is this here. And I've done that for six months. That's all in your head.

Oh my God. Give some words. The worst. Bitch, you had one birthday. It was 32 years ago. Let me go.

Brother, that's a game changer for me. If there's a buddy and he gets mad that I didn't wish him a happy birthday, we're not talking.

Whatever's really bothering you. Aren't we men? I mean, aren't we men? Yeah.

Let's get the fuck out here with your birthday.

I would not ask my friends to do anything. Yeah. I think your friends as well as just be your friends. Yeah. If I need some help with something I'll ask my friends for something. I don't need a fucking friend to give me a happy birthday party. Yeah. Hey, bro.

That's really lucky to be at a, at a wild wings.

Oh, the registered. Go to a doctor. Women talk so much shit about like when when women register. Oh, look with his pitch register. Yeah. Look at she's trying to.

You're hoping somebody goes off. Yeah. I'm hoping someone goes off. So you include some high items. Yeah. High value items. Just in case. Just in case some well healed individuals come into my big shinde.

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I had a bail in the bit because I don't know if I felt mean and personal. Not even mean. It's not mean. The bit is that a woman worth $39 billion in the divorce settlement. And she immediately married a high school science teacher. So the bit was about a woman worth $39 billion marrying a dude worth $3,200. That guy doesn't have shit to say in that relationship. If like that guy doesn't get a pick any color of the wall.

Right.

Yeah, because the way I know is because I don't get to pick anything in my house. My wife doesn't even work. That guy's fucked like he has zero chairs. If she's that rich, I'm like that guy said it's best behavior. Right. Right. I go. He's got his pronouns and his Twitter bio. He's drinking white wine.

I'm like that guy's a performance artist. He's putting on the show. He knows how much money she has. I'm like, how long can you be cool? Well, it turns out 24 months. So they're like, he couldn't keep it together. There's no way you could be yourself if your wife is worth $39 billion. Yeah. It's just too hard to be yourself.

she's like just fully committed to social justice and my prison reform and she's like she's really of kind of a beautiful soul in that regard like she's a very very wealthy woman who's committed to philanthropy and she's spending all these money all this money billions of dollars on affordable housing on really cool stuff but it's really cool to see what she's doing

Come on. He's late for school. He got with the siren teachers, probably fascinated by engineering.

I remember Joey Diaz got mad at us once when we were talking about microhouses.

Yeah, he's right.

I am shit McKenzie. Yeah. Buy a Lambo. Yeah. But the thing is like you can't because then everyone knows. See, like you get caught in that trap of philanthropy where you're not allowed to be a consumption person. You can't fly private jets now. Yeah, you know, especially not to decline in accords. You find out how many people flu private jets decline in accords? Christ people. It's terrible messaging. Yeah, but it's like if you get in that world you can't like where some crazy expensive watch and some crazy expensive person world you can't do the the flashy showy things that billionaire women like to do Billionaire women like to wear like half million dollar watches. You know, they walk around with things that are covered in diamonds and shit. That's what they like. They like to show all those other bitches. Oh, shit I got. Oh, you know, you got 150 feet ours is 210 feet by the fucker. Yeah. Like Jeff Bezos just built the biggest yacht in the world.

They're going to deconstruct a bridge to get it through. No shit. People got so building in Italy.

Oh, yeah, the Netherlands. But that's what you do. That's what you do when you get that kind of cash.

Because the amount of money involved in yacht life. If you go in yacht life, the amount of money is insane. Yeah. These are people that are making like $100 million a year. Like it's that kind of money to run a yacht. I have a buddy who's got a yacht, and he's very wealthy, and it's very strange. How much time does he spend on it? A lot. He loves it. I mean, he's fortunate enough that he runs a bunch of successful things that he can do them remotely. So he's more of like a manager at this point. You know, he just like handles all these various entities that he runs, but he's very successful.

Well, I was going to say, he's very successful, but he knows how to have fun. And he knows like the value of relaxation and fun. And he's set it up well, just because he's smart. So he parties. So he likes to get drunk. So he just fucking has this giant house that floats on the ocean. and he has a whole staff that works from there. It's a weird life, man. But you like damn I get used to this. Have you been on it? Yes, yeah, I'm out with him. Family, our family's a friend, too. So we all hung out together. So it was just like being on it like, man, this is a wild life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But things like, where do you go from there? And I think that's the thing about money people. People that are just interested in money. It's like you constantly want the new bigger crazy thing. You constantly, like, I get that a yacht would be amazing. Don't get me wrong. But what I'm saying is like, when you keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, like, what are you doing? What do you ever get to the yacht that's like? This is the perfect size. Yeah, we're good. You know, let's just have fun together. No, no, you just want another you want a supersonic jet. I heard they come in with supersonic private jets. You're going to be able to go anywhere in the world in four hours. Let's go. And then you got to be the first guy with a supersonic jet Jeff Bezos is going to have one. He's going to paint like a dick. That's what he's going to do. It's a big, veiny dick fucking joke. You know how much of us kill him watches X-Wife giving away all that money?

I hope that dude walks around with a gold chain, some fucking open shirts from now on. I hope he goes full heel. This Rick Flair in the 90s.

No more teaching. Well, that's one of the things in the bit where I'll say and like you know the guy like, you know, who she wants him to be is like this cool science teacher. But you can't be that once your married a lady were 39 billion dollars. So you quit your job. So you quit. So he stopped teaching.

Yeah. It's a tricky relationship. Yeah. You know, when a woman's worth that much more than you. Fuck. I mean, that's not, that's not like she makes a hundred grand a year, but I make 75. You know, no, no, no, no, no. She has 38 billion. Shit. That's a lot of Moulas.

And for a woman like that, it's probably very difficult to know for sure if a man is sincere. You know, because there's wolves out there. You know, there's male and female wolves. There's gold diggers, but there's men that'll like scam on a woman like that. You know, like that's a target. Like she has to like, people will like move to her town to try to coordinate a potential.

Yes. Yes. They get sketchy because she's, you know, if someone's a con man, or someone's just sociopathic and they have a plan. Like if you have a plan to start a business, what's the plan? Plan is I'm gonna do this and not, and I'm gonna make a bunch of money. I have a plan to marry that lady because she's worth $39 billion. Like, it's kind of a business, right? Being a gold digger is a business. Yeah, it really is.

There was a show once where they were following this guy who got scammed by these guys pretending to be women online and engaging in like relationships with men where they'll send them correspondence and photos and you know and talk to them.

Listen to me. their scammers and so they contact lonely men and they pretend to be a woman like Nigerian scammers and they send photos you know they just steal a bunch of gross photos from Facebook so this poor guy went to Europe he was a divorced man And I think it was a widow. I mean, it was like in the 60s. And he went to Europe twice to meet with this woman. And every time, she had an excuse why she couldn't meet him. And he went back again. And the girl's daughter was just so despondent because he's all of his money. He didn't have much, but all his money, he's sending to her. He's sending her $20,000. She has to get out of this and that. And people are coming after her. She's really in trouble and she owes money. Could you please help? And he's helping her. We're going to get together in my darling. We're going to be together forever. And then he would go there and she couldn't make it. And couldn't go. My mother got sick. Like just like this poor fucking guy believed. Damn. And it wasn't even a good scam. It wasn't even like physical contact, right? Yeah. But a physical contact scam where someone can pretend they love you and you're lonely and like finally my prayers have been answered, this person who's so amazing. And then it was like, listen, I think Mark might be full of shit. Fuck you, Mark's amazing. All they think about is how good they feel. Now that Mark's in their life, Mark gives them back robes.

But it is a romantic affection. Yeah. It doesn't matter how successful you are. See, that's all nonsense. Because once you're successful enough, we don't have to worry about food and money and housing, everything else is nonsense. So the success doesn't help the loneliness. The matter of fact, it probably accentuates it. Because it's a thing that everybody always thinks is going to make them happy. The thing that people think is going to make them happy is success. Like one day, I'll be the boss. I don't be happy. Like no, you're gonna be happy or you're not gonna be happy. You'll be happy. Er, having achieved your goals, but this is not gonna make you happy. And so if you're already a rich lady and you're just rotting with loneliness, Like you're a drug addict who like you never get cured. You never get, you never get free of the, the pull of heroin. You need it. We all need it. So worst thing they could do to you in jail, that you're in a fucking metal and cement box filled with rapists and murderers. The worst thing they could do is leave you alone. Like we're connected to each other. And if you don't get that love from people, I remember when I moved to LA in 94. I came out here to do this television show and we were out here for like two weeks and I was staying in the Oakwood Garden Department and I did not have any friends. So I'd go to the Comedy Store at night and I'd hang out there and I'd try to do a set and I was what's called a non-paid regular, which means I could go up after the show because Mitzi wasn't sure about me yet. And so I was doing that and I didn't know real interaction with anybody. And then this girl that I was working with I want the other actresses on the set. She gave me a hug. Yeah. And it was the best hug anybody ever gave me in my life. It was totally just loving, non-sexual, non-flority, just a, just a, you're my friend. Here's a hug. And I was like, oh, yeah. I was like, oh my god, I'll never forget that feeling because I was like, oh my god, I needed that.

Yeah. Yeah. because we love each other. Yeah, yeah. We can friends for so long. Yep, I know. Well, like you, it's like, it's a warm hug.

No. There's no hip bro.

She's the best. I'm so glad we got her out here.

We got a great crew.

Yeah, we got all stars. Uh-huh. Yeah, and we haven't even started yet. I mean, everything's going great already. You know, the scene here is incredible. There's a 12 world-class comics living.

No. Well, he's free now because now he's successful. And now he's got a Netflix special. Now he's killing on the road and he's killing on stage. Like he's free. Yeah. He's doing it the right way. He just works every day. Always writing. Oh, he's right. And he moved here. Yep, moved here. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's good spot, dude. Yeah. Comedy decentralized, comedy separated from Hollywood is the best comedy.

Yeah. Texas has real people in them and I didn't think that was a thing. I thought, you know, I go here. I have a good time. That's fun. But there is a general attitude that people have here that is way healthier. They're just regular people.

Well, there's that much of a demand because so many people moved here and there's not a lot of houses to buy Yeah, it's tricky.

But Tony Hanks clips at a bar the other night. Some guy comes up to him and he goes, hey, what's up, Tony? And Tony goes, hey, how you doing man? And he goes, fuck you for rude and much city. And he goes, oh, I didn't know it was your city. He goes, how long you live here? The guy goes 11 years. He goes, thanks for keeping it warm for us. We'll take it from here.

11 years, bitch. Get that far out of here. We've been here for two. We shut the fuck up.

He said, those are the people that yell out the store. Boo. Or at the seller. Yeah. They don't like your premise. Boo.

It's just people, man. Some people are gross. Some people just no matter what. They're on a team and they're gross. And they can't help themselves. They're surrounded by stupid people. That's what they've absorbed. Those are the patterns they've got in their head. They've never done anything that challenged them to break out of whatever pattern they're on. sometimes you run into it. Yeah, you talk and oftentimes they're in the crowd and they want to get drunk and yell out stupid shit.

Uh, fucking communist. Like, you guys probably are liberal.

Yeah. People that want to sell NFTs. So what should be a partnership with an NFTs?

What are you saying? I don't even know what you're saying. Why don't I get a spaceship with me? I've had 80 people explain to me now. I'm like, yeah, I don't get it. Now, I get that guy. Beeple. You know what he does? People does, uh, do you know who he is? Oh, that's pretty cool. Dude, it's the shit. That guy does a new piece of digital art every single day. Yeah. So if you buy an NFT from people, you're first of all, you're buying a physical piece of art. Uh-huh. And you could put it in your NFT wallet where the fuck that is. But what he's doing is creating a gallery. He has a literally legitimate gallery filled with his digital art. It's amazing shit. And he's so dedicated to it. He puts out one piece every fucking day no matter what.

It's all like, it's all digitally created artwork. Some of it is like dicks and missile silos and shit. And he goes, if people are trying to like find like hidden meaning, he goes, it's fucking dick. Yeah. It's like, he's hilarious. He's a great guy. Yeah. If you've never seen a shit, pull up with other people's Instagram page. It's amazing. Oh, wow.

Baby Trump. It's his end game. It's making baby Trump on top of the, I mean, how amazing is that? Woke Island. Wokey. Wokey. Wokey Island. Well, I see, well, I see a W on an, oh, I just assume it's woke. Reset button. Oh, wow. Yeah, so his stuff is all like some of it's hilarious. Some of it's really disturbing Santa came early.

And he was so consistent in how he did it that he got to, whoa, are they all changing? Are you doing that? I'm changing it. Oh, it's like going through him.

Look at that. But the point being it's like he was just so consistent and so disciplined that he just consistently put them out and now he's making hundreds of millions of dollars doing this. Damn, no shit, really.

Yeah, he's like the in terms of NFTs and like sales of digital art. He's like the number one guy is no shit. There's one of them.

Yeah, two points.

Yeah, click on that chimp one. But it's also like if they're not, you're actually getting real digital art from this guy.

Because you get something like that. Oh, you get a piece like a digital piece of art, too. And you, that's where it gets squirrely with like one of the non-fungible token. You own the rights to that thing. So even though like some of them like board yacht club, board AP yacht club or something like that, I don't understand because it's just a photograph and you own it, I guess, but but I get to get scream shot of it. It'll be on my phone, but I guess it's not as cool as you owning it on your phone. Okay. I don't totally get that, but I get this. I get the digital artwork and I get like that's an original people and you know, you would get he gets sends you these things and go with it and there's more to it and like his gallery that he's doing. He has like these big displays and big things and I'm sure you could buy those, too. It's like it's like you're buying a real thing. Like if you if you bought one of his art displays and it's like that, but it's like seven feet tall and like you could put it in your living room and people come over. Whoa. Yeah. That's a real valuable, cool thing a piece of art.

That's Freddie Mercury. What else you got in there? Kevin Neilon artwork. So he has his own Instagram just for his art. Wow, look at that letterman.

That's incredible.

Yeah. That's so good. And it's like it's such a good characterization. Like it's not a realistic painting of them.

But that's the thing about a caricature, right? Like the exaggerate certain aspects of you, but you know instantly who it is.

Yeah, he does. He'll show the illustrations too as he said. Yeah.

He's missing some teeth. Yeah, he does all the guess. Look at any problem. That's amazing. That's like a fracked marble. Yeah, not so crazy now. Let's look at Mark Zuckerberg. Louis, look at Louis C. K. Wow.

Yeah, it's a specific kind of comedy art, right, making a caricature of a person. Yeah, yeah. There's one that we have that makes me uncomfortable. I don't know if I'm going to hang up anymore. It was a dough spot. He did one of Joey Diaz. I'm like, that one's a little disrespectful. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a blue cheese with wings and go fuck your mother. It's, but it's, it's so, it's like, I was joking. I wouldn't want to look at that.

That was the purpose of the Hayoka in the Lakota tribes.

That's a sacred clown. They had someone who would mock everything. Yeah, because if there was something that could be mocked, if it made people laugh, then you knew that it was true. Well, it was bullshit. The thing was, it was easily mocked. It was a stupid thing. And they used that to sort of test

They just kill you. They're just killing you for fun. Yeah, like that's one of the things that we love about watching like game of thrones or any of those like I know their fantasy, but they're supposed to be depicting a time in which there was no electronics and those civilization was crazy. People just killed people. It just decided I'm going to kill them and no one could do damn thing about it. Right. They'll just beat you to death in front of everybody in the middle of like a dining hall and no one stops it. And you realize like, well, this is what people did with each other back there. Yeah. And if someone just decides that you've dishonored the queen with your gesture ways, they're just going to chop your dick off in front of everybody and stuff it in your mouth where you scream and bleed out on the stairs through the throne.

the whole myth of Dracula, like the Dracula story, the Bramstoker version of Dracula, came out of this legend of Vlad the Impaler, Vlad Teppus, who was a guy who was a real guy who lived who used to torture the enemy and impaled him on spikes in front of him while he ate dinner. No shit. Yeah, yeah. Whoa. Look at how he would used to do. So here's Vlad the impeller. There's a depiction of him. So he lived Vlad Dracula or Vlad Dracula. He lived in 1476 somewhere around there. Is that what it says? Let's see, go to his, that was his third reign.

But for this guy, Vlad Tepes, Vlad the impeller of Vlad Dracula, he was known for, he would cut pieces of a prisoner's flash off and force them to eat it. He did like horrific shit. So was 14, 20, what does this say? 23? 14, 28 to 14, 31. Somewhere around then he was born, he died somewhere around 14, 76. So he's like 45 to 49 years old when he died, they're not sure.

You know what that is? Yeah, the soy shithront put your tongue through your neck.

Yeah, there's some evil fucks out there. Have you find out what the command she's did? There's this book empire the summer moon. Oh yeah, I read that.

I had him on the podcast. He's great. It's an amazing book. And he found all that stuff out, walked when he moved here. He moved here and he started researching the history of the Native American tribes and the planes tribes. And then he writes this book about the Commandion. So it's a kid's fucking car race, you store it. Yeah. But one of the things they did is those people would fight to the death. They never, they never surrendered. Because if they surrendered, they assumed they were going to be tortured. Because they tortured everybody. And they would take people and they would hack their arms and legs off and while they were alive throw them on a fire to watch them squirm. The last moments of your life, no arms that they would just hold you down and they would immediately hack off your arms, hack off your legs and then check you on the fire. And then they just kept doing it to more people throw them on the fire. Damn.

And you're going to get murdered and your family's going to watch. And everybody got murdered except for the younger kids that they would try to incorporate into the tribe. And they would test them in various ways. And if they failed the test, they would kill them. And if they just kept their shit together, they could eventually become a part of the tribe. And the curious thing is a lot of those people got captured later and released like so like the soldiers would you know overcome a band of Indians and find capped capped dirt white settlers and they didn't want to leave. They wanted to stay with the Native Americans. That's the Cynthia and Parker story. She's the woman who was, yeah, she gave birth to Quanna Parker, who was the last command she chief. Yeah. And he was half white. She was white. She was a white cellular, who was kidnapped, but she was not. She watched her mother get killed, watched her father get killed.

Yeah. Yeah, she was despondent. Like when she, when they brought her back to a regular society, she was despondent. Mm-hmm. She did not want to live like that at all. She had, she was in her 30s by then. Yeah. And she had just been living with the commanding. She was a part of their culture. I mean, it's just, you know, it's like a romanticizing it in a lot of our eyes because everybody, you know, like romanticizes the idea of being a planes Indian. Wow, I must have been incredible sleeping under the stars, but the people that they did capture and release it back in a sighted, they didn't want that. Like nobody was going the other way. There was no planes Indians that were like, look, fuck all this. I want to join you guys. I want to be a banker. Like that wasn't happening. But people were leaving and they were like living with in the Indians and they didn't want to go back. And it wasn't a small number. There's like some minors, it struck deals with them, and various people that had made their way across the plane decided to join. And you know, if you got a good band of Indians, didn't want to kill you, because you're a white settler. If you're in the right place at the right time, and you joined in, like for them it was like a better way of life.

Well, they ward on each other hardcore in horrific, horrific ways. They cannibalize each other. You know, there's the Nespers were famous for cannibalizing the victims that they captured. People did horrible things in all ethnicities, in all parts of the world, in all, like when the barbaric times of human history, people have done absolutely terrible things to each other, to people that look like them, to people that look nothing like them. It's just like a part of being a human being, or has been a part of being a human being. I think less now, because we're more recognizing the horrific nature that we get to discuss it. because everybody kind of gets to talk now, because of the internet, because of education, and it's way harder to pull off like a Christopher Columbus type of atrocity in 2022 and selling it to the public, like what they did. You would get documentation, cell phones, video footage, like, hey, why'd you cut their arms off if they didn't give you gold? Because that's what Christopher Columbus did. Yeah. But with those people did, like, you read the priest's accounts of how they tortured the natives when they got here and what they did, like, bashed babies heads on rocks and told people if they don't bring their weight and gold, they would cut their arms off, cut their arms off and show the other people that they're willing to do it and then send them out, get more gold.

Which is hard for us to think about. Yeah. Because of the the world we currently live in. But if the power went out and shit went sideways for just six months, just six months. You know how crazy the world would be, how crazy was the world during like the BLM riots during COVID, where people were walking on street throwing rocks into people's windows and smashing doors open and doing whatever the fuck they want to do for no, there's no social justice to that. They were just, they were wilden. So like you've seen those videos where people just went, hey, why? That's what happens. That's what happens when you get mob mentalities together. You're going to get certain people that don't give a fuck about a social cause or whatever. They just want to go wild and they're going to jump in and come up with reasons why they can light buildings on fire and do if there's no power for six months, they run the streets. They run the streets. No way to call the cops because there's no power. What are you going to do? How many bullets you got? What the fuck man? Like that's how thin the veneer of civilization is over the world. For most of history, they behaved the way those clans, the planes Indians did, and the way Columbus did, and the way the Mongols did, and the way the Romans did. Like for most of history, people are cons.

Yeah, the school shootings. It's like, The reason why they're so horrific is because they're an aberration. And the worst, most horrific aberration, someone who wants to kill purely innocent people, you know? The thing that no one wants to talk about with those is how many of them are on psychiatric medications, because it's almost all of them. All right, they've gone off psychiatric medications. Yeah. Yeah. And then the question is like, is it correlation or causation? Are they already broken? Is the psychiatric medication what kept them from doing it earlier? Yeah, I don't know. But the horrific things that people have done throughout history. It's so fascinating how recent that was because it really was only like a few lives ago. Like if you want to go to the planes of Texas and the planes of North America in 1700, you are in a wild world, wild world. None of the towns are there, nothing settled, it's wild. If you're living back then, And then someone could put you in a time machine, just 322 years later, you'd be like, holy fuck. Because 300 years before that, it was the same shit. 1,700, 1,700, not a lot of change here. And then you go 300 years later after that, you're like, holy fuck. This is crazy.

Just how about what automobiles are now? You know, I was talking to Reggie Watts is a car guy, right? And Reggie has a Porsche Turbo S, which is a preposterous car. It's basically a spaceship. It goes zero to 60 in about two seconds. Somewhere in the range of two seconds, goes one G laterally with all wheel drive. The handling is outrageous. The speed is telepathic. It's like shoo. We could just go wherever the fuck it wants to go. And I said to him, I imagined bringing that card in 1970.

They would think you are an alien. You must have come from another planet. If they saw the LCD screen that lights up and all the gauge clusters are in LCDs or LEDs, they would be like, holy shit. Now, this is insane. This is insane. Like how do you start it? You press that button. Oh my God. How's it? No, that I have the key. It's reading that you have the key in your pocket. Just press the button. And then you're in this thing.

Hey honey, what? Yeah, where the fuck are you? Like, you can talk to someone in your car. Oh, not only that. You can say navigate to Vulcan Gas Company. and it goes, getting directions to Vulcan Gas Company. That quickly, that quickly, within a second.

Yeah. Or how old is Mick Jagger? Just tells you. Like I do that all the time now. I just ask my phone. How old is somebody? Yeah. How much is that cost? How long has that been around? It just tells you. Yeah. Like you just ask your phone now. It's like we're literally in a science fiction movie. Yeah. Find out. How old is Gregford Simmons? No, you have two contacts named Gregford Simmons. Tap the phone number. That's all I have heard. How old is the stand-up comedian Gregford Simmons?

Yeah, I've been working out like I've been last last year year and a half

Yeah. Oh, that's the real one. Yeah. That's the the the mech of bodybuilding.

Yeah. The fake tits in the tan is not the best part about it, but I do like the fit bodies. Yeah. Yeah. I do like the fit bodies. Yeah. It's just like, but if you want to be like one of those Instagram models, there's a there's a market for that now.

Well, you know, if I'm not saying you should do that, but what I am saying is, why is it okay to be a regular model? And it's not okay to do that. Like people look down on Instagram models. They look down on some girl who just like, this is her job is to look hot and take pictures in her underwear, washing a car. What do you give a fuck? This is my take on it. The reason why it exists is because men like me stare at it, first of all. And B, why is that less valid than someone who stars himself to look at a code hanger and walks down a runway?

But in his world, that's not questionable. Yeah, that's true. Like, that's like, if you could get tattooed neck and shit, like, that's a real motherfucker.

Yeah, if you're like post malone you getting your face tattooed up like he doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, he's like he's free of and he's got his whole head tattooed.

Don't tread on me. Doesn't Aaron from what's his name? From stained Aaron Lewis. Doesn't he have don't tread on me tattooed on his neck?

As a Brazilian jujitsu black belt, I would never have don't tread on me tattooed on my neck because it would just be way too inviting for people to choke me. That's all they would be going for. They'd just try to choke all the fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you.

I was like, I with a don't tread on me thing on his neck. I might have to strangle him.

Yeah. He's got a beautiful voice that guy. He turned to a country sinker. It's very interesting. Like he's like a pro Trump, God guns and country type dude. He's that, who is he? Stained. The guy from the lead to your stand. Yeah. He's talented as fuck man. But he's like a very politically active. He's a country boy. But I think it's legit. I think it's legit. I think that's actually who he is. I don't think he's like affecting a thing. That's who he is. When you listen to his lyrics and his songs, it resonates more the way he sings now. I think he just had a great voice and he's sung for Stained and he's like, this is what I really want to do. It don't tread on me tattooed on my neck. That's a guy that doesn't need a plan B. Yeah. You know? Yeah. He has to be aggressive thing to have on your neck. Yeah.

That's like... What did you get if you got a next tattoo?

Yeah, what does see if there's a Lakota symbol for Hioca? Interesting. Yeah. The Lakota are the Sue. It's the same Indians. Right. They call them that Sue was like a Native American word. I think it was for enemy. So other other people called them the Sue.

The fascinating thing about those cultures is that I was at what it looks like. What is that? Hey, you got ideas.

No, I think that's like that's the goof. If you go back to that picture is like that is a hayoka like he's right go to the the image. Yeah. He's riding backwards with a spear pointing in the wrong direction. Of course. He's being a goof. Yeah. Like that's a guy joking around. So that's the idea behind it.

Oh, so it's like a jester. Yeah. So they've got a combine thing. All right. Hey, okay, as an archetype, harnessing the power of infinite mask wearing. Okay. I think we stumble into a bizarre community.

You don't think what you lost a bet?

So what do you think that is like as a law? Is that a saw? He looks like a guy with sniffing ass too. Look at him.

No. No. It's not a salt unless you touch someone, right?

I wonder what their what's within their rights to do. Right.

And then, are they allowed to be the shit out of him? Or are you supposed to just hold on to him? What are you supposed to do? Wait till he tries to hit you?

Or attempted murder. Tempted murder, right? Yeah, this guy was stabbed his roommate like in December of the year.

Yeah. Is it a prank thing that he does for? I believe so.

You do that to the wrong guy, you know?

Some surfer, who's apparently like a famous surfer, just got killed in a bar fight where some guy punched him and he fell and hit his head and died. And I talk about this all the time that people think it's safe to hit someone and just knock him out in a bar. It's so dangerous. On the street, it's so dangerous to knock someone out.

Yeah. It's people think like they watch movies and I think people get knocked out. It's no big deal. People die all the time when they hit their head.

Car accidents, guys who played football, sometimes their head just gets broken. Fighters, just gets broken. Like you're not coming back. You're this guy now forever. Yeah.

And one of the guys that he worked with got in a fight with some patron knocked him out and died. He got died. He punched the guy, I was a drunk, fell, hit his head, and then he went gel. For how long? I don't know, it was years though.

Yeah, yeah. I think it was like seven years or something like that. Right. I don't know if it was manslaughter or second-degree murder or what they convict you on, but fuck man. I was watching a video of these guys at Rob some kid, 21-year-old kid in New York just walked up to him and just blasted him in the face and knocked him unconscious and the kid falls. onto the curb and hits his head and he was dead in five days. And you know, they're trying to find the kids who did it. I don't know if they found them, but it's like a mansion. They got $20 from, they stole $20. just knocking some out and not understanding like you might as well just be shooting them because you could very easily kill someone this way very easily you're falling so far when you get knocked out your standing up you're falling so far and you're hitting your head like if you just fall too feet dead weight and hit your head you could get fucked up think of something hitting you as hard as the earth hitting your head from two feet away. Oh my god, it would be devastated. Now imagine the happening from five, six feet. It's like, and you're getting chaos, so there's momentum. You're falling backwards. It's not just as simple as just gravity. There's actually momentum too. So maybe it's double the power.

It's talking a lot of people are talking about neck punches.

Mm. Yeah. I think you're probably okay. Yeah. Um, I don't think that's as dangerous. You can get knocked out by getting hit in the net for sure. You definitely can get your net hurt. But I wonder if you get knocked out as easily. The chin is where it's really dangerous. You get hit in the chin a lot of times people just shut off. Or you get hit in the temple a lot of times people get shut off. And when you get shut off and you fall back, that's the most dangerous. You definitely, I mean, it's not good to get punched in the neck, but it's not like a smart strategy or box to just be punched in each other in the neck. You know, they kind of a little bit do that, but it's really like accidentally. They're trying to hit the chin. kicks though, some of the best head kick knockouts. guys a win to kick on the neck and they're like right here like right here and all the time the air in your head yeah yeah because if you think of someone throwing their shin up at you and where your their shin is gonna contact with the side of your neck that shuts people right off yeah that's how uh... tomorrow uzman got knocked out by leon Edwards same county i think that one actually might hit his head but it's like the head like right where the neck meets the head

Yeah. Yeah. So back to that Brett Farb thing.

Get wrong T. Yeah. It's fact O.J. Simpsons people said that if he were to go to trial today, they would definitely bring up CTE in his defense. But then you'd have to admit he killed them. Right? Because there's no reason why he is rage if he didn't really stab somebody. All right.

Imagine we had a video of that. Yeah. Jackie fucked you.

Will you hesitant at all to play with him?

I don't play golf. I play pool with him. I would. I would just to try to like, look, I met people that killed people before. You have.

But not like that. You know, I met people with killed people in war. Yeah. That's a different animal.

The guy he lost his gun is in hand to hand combat situation with a guy that guy's grabbing at his gear off of his vest. gets the guy to the ground, kills him on the rock. Yeah, they talked about, he's like, in that moment, he's like, me and this guy, we don't even know each other.

I didn't have hate for this guy, but I just had to do it. And he had to try to kill me too. And how insane that situation is. Like, you're from here. And then all of a sudden you're there. And you're in this guy's town or whatever. And you're a part of a military some sort of an action that they're doing that day, and you find yourself in a hand-to-hand combat with some guy. You don't know his language. You don't know his history. You don't know anything about him. You just know it's you or him.

Yeah. That's a lot different than getting coked up and stabbing a waiter and cutting your wife's head off. Yeah. And then doing music videos afterwards.

You ever see the video that he did? Which one? The rap video. We had a bunch of chicks around him.

Um, I don't know where he is. Yeah.

How wild it would get if you got a little loose lips? He even believes he killed them at this point in time. He might not even believe he did it. He might have been so like, he might have told that lie so many times that that's his truth. You know, it might be like, you might never get to the real man. He might just like, he might be like a politician. Like everywhere he goes. Like he's just from birth from waking up in the morning to going to bed at night. It's just he's put on an act. He never gets to the real OJ.

You want to see the video of him, like, laughing? Hell yeah. Find the video of OJ or rapping. This is, like, after he's acquitted, he was doing a bunch of different things. And then he did something. Some sort of rap music video.

Oh, that girl's going wild. Yeah.

Do you remember the Jamie Kennedy experiment? Of course. Jamie Kennedy is like the most underrated prank show guy in history. Because people don't talk about him like when they talk about the grades.

Well, he had this thing called Guy's Gun Nuts, and it was like the response to girls gone wild, so this is like the whole series of this. But at one point in time, they're doing a music video.

Oh, there is. So you can still have titties on YouTube?

But we're going to ruin it. They're going to find it. YouTube. We're going to find it. So these gals danced around with the boobies out. And there's a rap song somewhere in there. Yeah, that was not there. There it is. That's it.

I think that was one of the all-chases.

What's that? He said he just signed the ball and it go away.

He was pretending he was going to kill them. Oh, wow. And they're running away from him? It was a prank. I thought you were talking about the other thing, where people were. Wow.

I don't know. It's fine. Oh my God. So it was a prank show? Yeah. From a guy that you knew was a murderer. Uh-huh. Along with a rap video with topless ladies.

Imagine a big foot's real. I imagine all those people are telling the truth. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like a, knives out movie. Right. Like they've just like set him up the entire time. Mm-hmm. Like a really bad book.

Yeah, some bad evil detective.

Yeah. Imagine Mark Furman's just sitting there. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

He wrote a book call if I did it. Somebody gave me a copy of that. I'm pretty sure my wife threw it out. I was trying to find it though that she's sneaky like that. Yeah.

He signed it. He signed, I signed copy of the book. Really? Yeah.

Yeah. It was good she threw it up. Yeah. I mean, I never even read it. I just, I just point to people. I forget who gave it to me. Might have been Sikura, someone like that. What are you reading right now? In the middle of, I haven't been reading reading, I've been just doing audio books, but I'm in the middle of, you know, that movie, The Grey Man, that was with Ryan Reynolds and, no, Ryan Gosling. I always confuse those things for us. Ryan Gosling and who else was in it? Chris Evans, Captain America. the movie the movie that they did for Netflix like one of the most expensive action movies ever fun movie but very different than the book the book is dark the the book is about like a real CIA hitman oh yeah that they found when he was like 19 years old he had committed he murdered some drug dealers or something like that and they incorporated them into the CIA program where they trained them to kill people. No shit. True story. No, I don't think it's true story, but I think there's some basis in history that they have done things like that.

Yeah. Well, they've most certainly have hired killers. Yeah. And, you know, contractors and stuff like that. I know people have done that. But this this book is about this one guy who's the elite of the elite. This is the gray man. It's pretty intense. That's cool. There's a series of them. I think they get a little You know, it's hard to keep a good idea going after a while.

The first few episodes were great, but he got to a point where they would have found him. How are you just driving there? You can't just drive places anymore. It was implausible. Not only that you have a car that is GPS on it, like this is nonsense.

He doesn't fucking anything. No, you're wrong.

He's got the killer dogs. It would have been a really good movie that would have ended like no country for old men where it had like a weird ending. Yeah. That would have been a good movie. But as a series, it just like Too much talking and explaining things, not enough showing me things, means that you didn't know how to resolve things, and you got a little television-ish for a while.

It started out a great concept, and you bought into it. Even the way he survived and the way he was managed to thrive, you bought into it. Up until he kidnaps or takes her across the country, and you're like, get the fuck up. Right. And it was fine to you, bro. You can't just do that. Yeah. There's only so many roads. Where are you going?

Well, I think it could have been, like I said, it could have been a great movie.

He's good. What is the the main one taken taken? Yeah, when he calls you guy up. People have used that for so many reels. I have a potential set of skills.

Yeah, I bought that. I love Daniel Craig is James Bond. No, I'm sure. A good fucking assassin movie. Yeah. A good badass movie.

Did you see the video of the 92 year old man fucking this young guy up on the street? Now go to Lennox Lewis's Instagram page. There's a video of these guys pick a fight with a, I think he's 92. He's 92 years old. And he fucks these guys up. He takes his shirt off and starts boxing these guys in the street. What country? I don't know. I don't know where it was. Um, see if you can find it. Just pull up Lennox Lewis's page. I'll show you which one it is. That's it right there. So this does it say? So there's 90-year-old retired professional boxer. So these people start getting your new an argument and start pushing each other around. It eventually turns back around normal. And so it's what's in front of a McDonald's.

And so this guy steps in the guy with a black shirt. He's the one who's gonna get fucked up this young guy. So he hits a hole. The old dude just flatlined him. No, it gets better. It gets better. Look at him. He's got his 92 years old flatlines that guy. Look at him. He's dancing around. I mean, there's a old dude and a young guy that he just cracked. Look at him standing in front of each other. The guy tries to take him out boom, drops him again. And now the old dude's getting wild. Now he's getting wild. Look, he takes a shirt off. The fuck outta here. Let's go, bitch. Takes his shirt off. Now, this kid's squaring up with him. He's fucked.

Whoa! Look at this. 92. He's pushing everybody the fuck away from him. Get up, bitch. You want some more? Look at this. And this guy's still, look at how he's standing, squared off, has no idea how to box.

They age better.

Yeah, let's die like this. Yeah. But when you see that guy standing with his legs, like squared off in front of him, with his hands up, he has zero idea to fight. Yeah. It was the perfect moment for that guy to do that.

That's a sticky situation to be in. You don't want to let a woman punch you. No, women can knock you out. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's women out there that can fucking knock you out. Hell yeah. Especially if you don't see it coming, like they suck up on you from the side. Mm-hmm. Fucking dangerous. Yeah. Yeah, you can't let them hit you, but if you hit them. It's on video. Oh my god, and if you knock a woman out, she falls and hits her head. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Oh Jesus Christ. Oh fuck. Doesn't matter who jumped you.

So maybe she felt bad that she sprayed you in the face and then she thought when you were punching her, you kind of cute.

No, I felt terrible about it. Did you apologize with right afterwards or did you wait to meet her at the lake?

Oh, God. Of course she did. She was abuse. Yeah. She's off for the chaos.

He's younger than me. He looks like shit.

If I move like that, I'd be fucking embarrassed.

It's really great.

I mean, he's one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Really? He's a gypsy.

Unquestionably one of the greatest heavyweights boxers of all time. Yeah. And he's a gypsy king. He talks the best shit. He talks the most shit. He's hilarious. Yeah.

But they do just bring their caravounds places in Parkham. Yeah. Like that does still happen.

Yeah. I didn't know that because I knew that I had a friend who lived in the UK and one of her friends with the UK was telling her that this band of gypsies just moved into like an abandoned lot on their street. They just pulled in and just that we live here now. And then they couldn't get them out. They couldn't get them to move out. He's people lived in like this well to do neighborhood. Where is this? There's someone in the UK. I don't know.

That was great fucking movie. That was one of Guy Richies, Guy Richie. Fucking classics.

He's done some very fucking characters that Angelina Jolie thing. Yeah. Imagine that trial. Because you think that the fucking Amber Hurt trial was wild? Yeah. Imagine that trial.

They were doing something to the shit. Skin and drip blood and the vials.

Check it on their neck.

Yeah. That's just unsustainable. It's like we see people sprinting. Look, this is my lunch. She's kissing everybody's having a good fucking time. I'll tell you that.

She's pretty hot. My friend Tony always says that the psychotic and erotic. They're very closely related. Yeah. You got to always take that in consideration. Like some of the most psycho chicks are the most erotic and it's like not necessarily good.

Yeah, the heroin life does not lead itself to like a lot of like a wild sexual exploiting chaos. It seems like it's a lot of napping and throwing up in the sink.

you know those kind of relationships though like uh they don't have like a long shelf life it's like you're sprinting you tattooing your names on each other immediately and dripping blood and where are you going to go from there yeah where's that going to go doesn't matter eventually it's going to peter out you don't even cut yourself for me yeah come on so we're done yeah so I did it already I took your fucking names on my arm come on leave me alone yeah

He's deeming a hose on Instagram.

I mean, that kind of a relationship, like if you get involved in that kind of crazy level relationship, we cut each other and carry each other's blood and we're like, where does that go? Yeah. You got to look at that in terms of a long-term project. You start out sprinting like that. Like, how is that sustainable?

Right? Some people like it. Some people don't like it at all. Yeah. That's not supposed to be good for you. Like Dr. Drew was talking about all the dangers involved in that.

Has sent me and showed me some of the most horrific things to show on your mom's house live when they do those shows. Yeah, and one of them was these two guys that had prolapse anuses. They're they're fisting and they're pulling their anuses out their prolapse anuses out and they were rubbing them together. So like this pink sock. from one guy's butt and one guy like apparently like he's internally bleeding because they're doing such rigorous awful stuff to their assholes. Yeah. That everything was like a bright dark red and the doctor was like, I probably died that night.

You're not going to live from that one. Yeah. The damage you're doing. You're basically a wiping ass organs. How do you wipe your ass if you take a dump? How do you heal from that where you can shit again? Yeah. Like you're tearing your asshole apart and then poop has to come through there on the way out. And when it's all broken up inside and the poop is like rubbing up against that. I'm like, how do you get infected? Like what happens there?

Yeah. I met these two guys at the show once in Connecticut. And I had a joke about two guys having anal sex. And they wanted to come up to me after the show. And they go, we were, we thought you're really funny, but we want, you know, that a lot of gay people don't have anal sex. I go, okay. I go, but some of them do, right? It's still a thing. And he's like, yeah, they do. You just want me know that you're not one of those people. Like, oh, do we know that? I'm like, I don't know where we're going with this. He just wanted me to know that there's a whole community of gay folks that don't have butts. I'm like, okay, but it's not like I'm making this up, right? Like people do fuck two, but it's real. So what are we doing here?

Yeah, that's the crazy thing like I've heard girls yell it out in comedy clubs like a comic on stage was on stage and me talking about like some girls love it. Oh, me. Oh, yeah. Like whoa. Yeah, you're throwing up the bat.

Yeah, well, he's still refining it, you know, and I'm talking around with it and he was working on new stuff and then playing around when he was here. But it's it's interesting to watch work again, you know, he's he's freer now than he's ever been before.

Yeah. He's gone through the worst, and now he's on the other end of it, and he's just still doing the same kind of comedy. Really funny, really ridiculous.

Yeah. What was the movies, do you remember?

Yeah. Two men nature. Yeah. There's always gonna be wolves. There's always gonna be wolves and there's always gonna be sheep. Yeah. And if you're in that situation and you don't recognize the signs, Someone's getting over on you.

Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty woman. You know?

It seems unlikely. Yeah. She seems a little too emotionally stable.

She seems like not scarred. But that's what everybody wants, right? Like you want like someone to genuinely be a good person in the bad circumstance who can change. Yeah, and if love can see through everything, all right, and you can see that it's it's it's not her background that you're marrying, but the but the jiggleau with the heart of gold that one's not real. Right, the male jiggleau.

But it seemed to get a little too sought-in-arm in his later years. Two, one? A little too namaste. Yeah. A little too. Like, remember when he went up on stage after 9, 11, it's like, we should choose love and they're like, boo, fuck you.

They were booing them. But, you know, he was trying to like talk peace and love to people.

I tried with the shining.

Are you serious? Yeah, they think it takes too long. Borgrey.

Brother on TikTok.

Simulated instantaneously. Right. It's hard for them to watch something. What is this?

They got my thumb, Charlie. They got my fucking thumb off, Charlie.

The wrestler. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

But didn't Eric Roberts do some like movie movies like a karate champion? I remember watching this going, oh my god.

What is it? Best of the best, too. So imagine going from the Pope of Greenwich Village to the best of the best, too. Way in Newton. Is there fights in Newton?

Look at this.

Look at this car right here.

The best of the best. The best of the best. The best of the best. The best of the best. The best of the best.

The best of the best

I think you're thinking of, uh, like I. Oh, that's Sean Penn's brother. Oh, okay. Oh, it's Chris Penn. Chris, right? He's no longer with him. No, he's not. Um, no, you're thinking of the guy from Leetha Weapon, who had a bad motorcycle.

Oh, really? Yeah. What the fuck's the guy from Leetha Weapon? The older crazy guy. You know the guy.

91.

But that's two years after words he did this movie. That was 93. Okay.

But no, what the fuck is his name and the old dude?

Uh, how did Eric Roberts, how Eric Roberts went big crash-tard? Well, he was high on cocaine. Eric had a horrible horrific car accident in 1981. Oh, 81. So it was 93 that he was in that movie. I was in a coma. My speech was very retarded. I had to learn how to walk again. I don't think you're allowed to say that Eric. In 2018, you could say retards. Yeah. Um, but uh, he was also on celebrity rehab.

Wow. It was a weird one. Because like he was rehabbing off a weed.

Yeah. Other people didn't. Itches. They were fucking screaming at each other. Fuck you. Fuck you. And Eric Roberts wrote a drink coffee.

He shouldn't be in rehab. He's just here for the fucking sack check. This is ridiculous. He's addicted to fame. Remember, I'm a Stan Hope out a bit about how unethical celebrity rehab is. Oh, yeah. It's a great bit. Yeah. It's a fucking great bit because it's so true. What a terrible thing to do to people who are coming off of drugs. Take a fucking camera in their face. Yeah. It's like the worst idea ever, like for someone trying to recover.

Well, especially stable people watching them deteriorate on the show too horrible. Yeah. And then like, well, I don't care what the fuck your check is and what the attention that you're getting. It's not worth it. Like you don't, you don't want everybody judging you based on the worst time in your life. Coming off a coke. Trying to get your shit together. Penuous. You need to be on the show. You're a famous person and you're not wealthy at all because you need to be on the show. So the show was a show pay. How much is it pay? It can't be that a lot. It can't be like for the rest of your life money. It might get you by for the year. But now you're stuck with the memory that everybody has about you throwing up in a bathtub. coming down.

But you know, like, didn't people are saying horrible insulting shit to each other and then they just put that on television. Yeah.

People get obsessed with watching people go off the rails like hoarders. Yeah, people love watching that. They love watching people off the rails. Going to their house is boxes of newspapers. Direct up to ceiling. Catch it on the floors.

It is low to go below America, but it is weird how we become obsessed with people whose lives are falling apart. Like we'll focus on like my 600 pound life or something like that. Like people they they want to go well. I feel better. I'm not that guy. Yeah, you know, and you also realize like If you think about it as crazy as you've ever been in your life, like what's the worst you've ever been and how much further could have gone if you didn't self-correct. If you didn't course correct in your life, would you ever have got to the point where you were one of those people that can't get off the couch because you're 600 pounds? Would you be one of those people that gambles away every fucking penny you have no matter what? And then you're in debt and you're terrifying, you're like Adam Sandler and Roughcut Gems or Uncut Gems? Did you see that movie? Yeah. Great fucking movie. Yeah. And that movie gave me wild anxiety. Because I was like, I know people like this. I could see this being a real guy.

Yeah. He's just addicted. It's like, you imagine that was you. Like when I see a guy like Adam Sandler and uncut gems, I imagine I could be that guy. Really. Yeah, with him. If I was him living his life. With gambling. With gambling. Here's that guy living that you would see that that was so well done and well written. You could see the thrill in like the winning like occasionally he would win. And then he would lose. And when he'd lose, he'd fuck a devastating. But he would win.

Have a bookie? Yeah. So he calls this guy up and go, what do you got for me? Yeah. And like girls high school basketball is like, let's go. Yeah.

Yeah, the thrill of gambling is apparently one of the most difficult to kick. People with gambler problems, gamblers anonymous, and I think it's a lot like we were talking about with the football players, is the high, obviously it's not comparable, but their high, that's their highest of high, is winning a gambling. And then the thrill of chasing money and the wondering whether or not you're going to succeed

so many guys, like every day they'd go to off track betting, they would come to the pool hall and they would gamble, they'd play cards. And if they had a job, it was just to scratch up enough money to gamble with. All they cared about was gambling. They would just absorb with it. And it was really enjoyable kind of gambling. They would play poker. They would play gin. They would shoot pool. They would shoot pool. But the problem with pool is you have to execute. And a lot of guys didn't like that. But you had to be able to make a shot. And so it's nerves and controlling yourself. A lot of these guys like their nerves are shattered. So they were just gambling on stuff. You know, like a lot of them were horse betters. I knew a guy who got barred for life from carriage racing because they caught him standing up while the horse was winning. He was trying to slow the horses down so much. He stood up. It was like pulling back on the reins. And they banned him from life. And he was always talking about, his name is, we call them chores to Greek. That was, I mean, his name is George. He's a Greek guy. The nickname for people like very obviously was Ray the fireman, Mount Vernon Tommy. It's like, where are you from? What's your name? And George to Greek was always talking about William Consela. He's my, he's my, my attorney. He's going to take care of him. I have fucking millions off these cocks, I guess.

Damn. So he was a part of like- Good guy to know. Fixing right now. No, no, no. He was always running some kind of a scam. There was always something going on with one of those guys. It was like, listen, you should be just invested in this.

Those gamblers are like, they're, if you're betting high enough and chasing that dragon of excitement, you're probably going to risk it all. Yeah. Imagine the thrill of putting your wife so sleep at home. She doesn't even know you're putting your fucking house on a game over roulette.

He played a great, like, hapless guy who finds himself in terrible circumstances.

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I don't think people can even appreciate the impact of being on Carson today. Right. I don't think people understand.

And when he liked someone, they would be successful. Yeah. Like a comic, like like guys like Richard Jenny who like would do the Carson show. Like that's what made him. Right. People seeing him do five minutes on Carson.

For sure, you know, there's a lot more options. Yeah. Right. It's like five million podcasts. Right. Right. That tonight show thing like if he didn't like you, you were fucked.

Shouldn't he be like happy? Just getting her own show. I think the competition then was a real thing. Because we don't think of competition the same way. Because with the internet, they're like, all that stuff's been eroded. There's so many choices. Do whatever you want at any time. So if someone's watching you at 11 o'clock, They could watch that another time or it doesn't matter, but back then it mattered. Like you had to be in front of your fucking television at 11 p.m. And that's when it's the night show came on. Period. End of discussion. Yeah. It only came on at one time and you had to sit there and watch it then. Right. And there was no VCRs. And you got to remember that this guy was on a tonight show. And then, if you're on a tonight show three times, four times, like, oh, it's Don Rickles again. I love Don Rickles, and he'd seen him again. Like, oh, it's Don, and then they became a person that was in the public sphere. Yeah. There's nothing like that now. like that's that mean we don't understand like the access we have to just different content and there's so many more options for people to do things.

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. But it's also like some things rise up and some things get noticed. And you're like, why is that thing getting noticed? Like with some of its artificial and that doesn't work. You know, they'll pop up some celebrity and give them a podcast and make a big deal out of it. But after a while, people like the sucks. Yeah. And they stop listening. Yeah. There's too many options. When you're alone by yourself, all that finagling and, you know, and promoting things and psych doesn't work. Just work. Like people like what they like. Right. When you're alone, you get to choose. Like, what do I want to watch? I want to watch this. That's the real, that's the real determination of whether or not something's good.

Did you see what they did? How's the dragons? Oh, I bailed on that last week. How's the dragon put all new actors in? That's when I bailed.

And she's supposed to look 35, right? In the next one, so like 10 years later with this, that's not hard to do. No. You could do that.

And they kept some actors. So they kept some. And they looked exactly the same.

And then they just replace people. And they said, oh, but we've cast the first people first. And then they always knew the second, the other, the people that got replaced, always knew they were going to be a good place. That's still a terrible idea. Yeah. That idea sucks.

Occasionally use the dragon. Yeah. It's very occasional with threatened with the dragon a little bit but nothing happens. Yeah, but it's also like they had me until they changed actors and you know my wife was like fuck this like what the fuck they just do to me like what did they just do? Why did they replace the the queen? But they kept the king. They just made the king look older. But you got a whole new queen.

No. No. No. Why? Yeah.

It's not compelling. No. But the change of the actor is a little shy. I lost your fuck over mistake. Yeah. Like whoever green lit that, like where was the adult in the room? Yeah. Is there another fucking way here? You've got people committed to these people, from hours. Yeah. And hours. They're committed to these particular characters. Now you're asking this, like, you have to just accept that you have new actors. Yeah. So now I know it's all bullshit.

I haven't watched it. But, you know, if you're gonna do it every season, I guess, as long as you, I know you're gonna do it every season. Yeah. Okay. Right. Okay. Suspension of disbelief. But not, but it's season.

Yeah. What is it, six? Whatever it is. Yeah. Fuck out of here. Why'd you do that? Like, you've could have made those people look old. It's not hard to do. So I'm possible. You have people look like fucking dragons, right? You have white walkers. You have all this making, put some old people make on that young girl. Take your voice a little bit. Yep. Fuck are you doing? And but the night is still the same? Mm-hmm. Get the same night. You look exactly the same age. Like, what are you doing?

Here's another point. There's another real problem. This is a prequel to Game of Thrones. There's black people in the prequel.

They're all gone later. So what happened? Yeah. There's zero black people in Game of Thrones. How many black people are in Game of Thrones?

But there's quite a few in House of Dragon. There's a lot. So what's going on? Yeah. You went through how many seasons with no black people in game with thrones and the pre-colder in every episode? Yeah.

Well, there was some black people in game with thrones weren't there. There were certainly those unix, the slaves, right? There was those guys. Remember those guys that fought for her, but they're unix. And then there were certainly places that people went that had people of color, but they didn't have royal family. Like in this movie, it's royal family. It's like the Targaryens or the Lancers or whatever.

It's just such a bonkers idea. And they just said, OK, this is how we're going to handle it. Yeah. You just fuck people's heads up.

And also like Her uncle, the guy who molested her. Yeah. Spoiler alert.

I haven't watched the Lord of the Rings thing on Amazon, but I heard it's all for God.

And I heard that the people that did it have never one show before. Oh, no.

What's like rotten tomatoes on the new lord. I know what Elon must talk shit about it. A lot of people are very upset.

Oh, that's actually pretty good.

Yeah, I was a big fan of the books when I was a kid. Yeah. The books are incredible. I mean, the guy wrote a language, wrote a fucking... Yeah. I mean, he wrote a whole language to go with the whole story. All right. Like, like, the gallumb and the ring and the whole story and the comic God is amazing. Yeah. Amazing. It's just so speaks to human nature, this poor creature, just captivated by this object.

Just to secure the digital rights. Wow. Well, maybe it's good. Yeah. I've been hearing it's a disaster.

I'll give you one. Yeah. I like that gray man movie. I think that movie was a couple hundred million dollars. How much was the gray man for Netflix? He was the most money they ever spent on a film.

The movie is, uh, it's fun.

Way more brutal. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's hard to do something like that and turn into a movie where you actually like the hero.

Right.

He's the best at killing people. They pulled it off with John Wick, but that's generally hard to pull off. John Wick is a hitman that everybody loves.

No. Is that the, is that the docu series? Uh, I'm the iceman.

Roy De Mayo was he was a hitman who became a serial killer.

and they had like a room upstairs above the social club and they would take guys the room upstairs and just chop them up in the bathtub and they'd kill people like constantly. It was killing like 100 people.

He's killed so many people. And the book is terrifying. The book's called Murder Machine. But it's all about that guy. See if you find Roy De Mayo, the story of Roy De Mayo.

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Joey, I would freak me out.

Yeah, man. Well, I remember when you lived in Little Italy when I went to a visit you. You had an apartment in Little Italy right down the street from the social club. Next door.

So Tony thought he was getting eight.

I'm sure he did. Probably knew him a little, but I was talking about that. He's the guy I need to talk to him about something. That's it. That's a really nice social club right there.

What is that neighborhood like now?

Wow. All right, Gregory. Let's wrap this up. Let's bring it home. People want to see Gregory on the road.

I'm still around San Francisco. Yeah, same spot. Remember we almost lost that spot.

Oh, you're going to be out here in Dallas at a hyenas in December. Hyenas for worth here.

Great. You're the man. I love you.

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