Transcript for #1927 - Forrest Galante

What's up, honey? Hey, bro. Still alive. You are still alive. This is a truthful title to this book.

Dude, I watched your show the other day, the television show. What is the television show?

Yeah, you were looking for some wolf thing. The red wolf. Yeah. But they didn't think it was a red wolf. They thought it was like some mystical or an Ozark haller goodness. Which, you know, I mean, wolves do howl.

Is there any cryptid that you find compelling?

Yeah, because it was alive. We do have video footage of it and there's been a bunch of sightings.

For people who don't know what the title scene is, it's a Tasmanian tiger.

Yeah. Cool looking animal.

How would one even do a survey of those areas? If you're talking about like rain forests and tropical jungles and just dense wooded areas, how would one even find what's in there?

Well, it's interesting because we know that mountain lions are real, but most people don't ever see a mountain lion. Right. And a lot of people that live in these heavily-witted areas don't see mountain lions. Yeah. Like it's hard to find one. And they're everywhere. They live in our city. Yeah, there's a shit ton of them. Yeah. So you might get lucky and catch one. But the populations are pretty great in terms of like... Right. like if you're in Colorado or if you're in Utah I mean they have a lot of mountain lions right and it's very rare that you see one so imagine if there was a very small population of mountain lions or you know or Tasmanian tigers and you know you went looking in a much more wooded area much more dense environment much larger too you know

We have a big photo of them out here. the one with the Hollywood's right.

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, but did they kill him? They used them. Yeah, someone's wrong with him, right? He was badly injured.

Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of the orange pandemic?

Sure. That one is weird because... Yeah. There you go. There you go. Like, is that real?

Oh, it's so fake. Yeah, it does. That's a still frame of it. That could just be a naked dude. Totally. That would be a very good dude. Yeah. That doesn't even look that hairy. But I think the proportions looks like a person. Did they have something to judge it by? I've seen the actual video though, Jamie, see if we can find the actual video because that's not it.

So here's these guys are on this motorcycle racing along.

That one looks certain I saw before. I'm set up. You guys slow their bike down just in time. Yeah, this one's nonsense. Why? Well, that was where it ran across the road. The one that I saw, though, I thought it was dark-haired.

Yes, the right.

Oh, maybe this is probably it then. But I don't, it's hard to remember because I've seen so many stupid fucking videos. But I, I'd seem to remember it looking almost like an ape person.

Or they see it in low light.

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Then there's also they've keep finding new extinct species of humans, right? Like their sovens? Yep. I think there was another one that they found recently that they're trying to figure out what it is. But they're very human-like in terms of home and sapient light, but a slightly different branch of the chain.

Well, that leads me to bigfoot because I think that all these stories of bigfoot, I think like the Native Americans have a bunch of different names for some creature that lives in some large hairy creature. And we know about Gigantopithecus. I think that's what that is. I think people just have a distant memory of it.

Yeah. Yeah, which is probably the same thing as dragons. And then we talked about that. Yeah.

I saw a squirrel once in Alberta and for a full second, I thought it was a wolf.

I was looking for wolves. Yeah. I was looking for it to be a wolf. I definitely saw a wolf once. Yeah. And it was pretty cool. It was either a wolf or a large coyote, but I'm pretty sure it was a wolf in Alberta. Yeah. Because it was at dusk and it ran across the road. And I was with camhains and we both noticed it. Mm-hmm. It looked like a wolf. Just too big and stalky. Yeah. And it was, you know, distant getting dark. Yeah. Hard to tell, but they're up there. There's a lot of ton of them. For me, they have tons of trail cameras on them. Yeah, yeah, and they see them there all the time, but I saw this thing run across this this this like down tree and For it was the tail of this squirrel and for the like a full second Yeah, I was like oh my god, is that a wall further? That's a fucking squirrel God your dumb that was like the Tell South played out in my mind.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is what I think people do with black bears that stand up on hind legs and they see big foot.

Yep, yeah, yeah, but I mean the you know the the wolf thing is interesting because it's like You know, they're reintroducing wolves in different parts of America and now they're they're trying to do it to Colorado and it's like I hope you guys know what you're doing Because this idea that you're going to be able to control their populations once you reintroduce them. You're not going to find them.

I used to live in Boulder, Colorado, and there's a lady I knew who's a yoga instructor, and that says a lot. I told her she was the best. I told her that I saw a mountain lion.

You think when you could have zacked and run into a bear in your fucking dead 100%. Yeah. They eat yogurt instructors too.

It's so misinformed. It's just based on idealistic perspectives. It's based on, you know, this idea of a utopia that exists in the woods. It's just not. It's toothing and claws. Correct. It's fucking chaos.

Um, no no other video of the orange pandemic. Is that it seems to be it.

All right. Let's see what that one looks like. It looks less fake.

Yeah. They probably didn't show the one when he's running on the road itself because it looks so fake. It looks like shit. Yeah.

Yeah. It looks like a naked person. Yeah. It does look like a person in the Spendex costume.

You saw that in the woods, going in between the trees from a distance. 100% I'd say, oh my god, there's giants in the woods.

Especially covered in dirt and dark out. Yeah. Exactly. Well, mentally ill people do wind up moving to the woods. It's happened. Yeah, I mean it happens all the time. I remember there was this one guy who was famous in Maine for he was a legend that he would break into people's houses and steal their stuff and Then they found out that he was a real person and he he he had dropped out of society in like the 1970s and And just decided to completely live by himself. Like he didn't talk to people for decades. Oh, wow. And he was by himself alone in a tent in the woods. And he would just steal stuff from people's houses when they were running around. Wow. Yeah. And live off of whatever he found or ate. And I don't know. What is like, like, wood's craft was like, is this it? Stranger in the woods. Yeah, sounds like it. For 27 years, Christopher Knight lived alone in a clandestined wooded camp in a tiny in in tiny room. I don't know what that is. undiscovered and un-aided, breaking into camps, a steal what he needed to survive. When he finally captioned and arrested in April 2013, the story of the North Pond Herman made headlines worldwide. But night spoke only to one journalist, Michael Finkel, an exclusive excerpt from his new book, Finkel explains the origins of the whispered myth that haunted central main for decades, the legend of the stranger in the woods. It's pretty cool.

Yeah, tell that story.

So it should really 2002.

It was very like 80s or something. I didn't know it was like that's that's why he must have been old as fuck.

We'll find it. But so yeah, that's so crazy. But can you imagine? No, I would you know and what if you fucked up and went into early right, you know, and then it is still World War II and they shoot you exactly. Just hang out for another year. Yep, just just I'll spend a couple more days in the cave.

97. Oh died 97. So years of service 41 to 45 and then this is 1972. But you see that 28 years of hiding in the jungles of Guam Yeah, I think that's what we're talking about there with 45. So I found them in 72.

Wow, forced to live off rats and make loincloths out of tree bark. Man who spent 41 years living in the jungle after fleeing Vietnam War makes a emotional return to his former home 41 years.

Oh my God.

I just looked at that really quick. Oh, my God. Damn. It looks great.

Well, who doesn't like a good rat head?

They've readdressed him. This is bullshit. Yeah, they readdressed him. They readdressed him and rags. Yeah, for the photos. That's what he looked like with a little other. Yeah, that looks like you've got to live in the woods. Wow. Ratthead. He's eating rat heads. What does it say to his son was killed? I'm not sure. One day his wife and two sons were killed by a mine explosion, putting him in a state of shock. Took his two-year-old son and fled into the jungle thereafter never having any contact with anyone else. The pair survived by forging fruit and cassava from the forest and planting corn. There were loincloths made a tree bark and lived in a timber hut, raised five meters above the ground. It's cassava's not the stuff that you need to boil and filter and strain. No, no, no. What am I thinking of? That's the other stuff.

Right. Right. Right. What is the one that, like, actually a strict nine in it? It's a very common in the jungle of Central American South America.

Doesn't sound right. Taro, I know what Taro is. But Taro, like they make tarot chips. Yeah, like you could eat tarot chips. But this stuff, they boil down, they turn it into like a, like a meal. Oh, I'm not sure. Smash it and do all kinds. I thought it was cassava.

Yeah. Isn't it interesting we've gotten to this point as a society where we eat what we enjoy. Right. It's not what just keeps you alive. Right. I was with Steve Renella once and he caught a beaver and we cooked the beaver. And one of the things that he cooked was the beaver tail. And he said that it was a staple amongst trappers. Okay. They really like beaver tail because it was a good concentration of fat. It was a great source of fat. I imagine it's just a big fatty issue. Disgusting. Yeah, bad. But when you're dying of fat, like you need fat, you're starving. Like fat is literally what you crave, then it becomes delicious. Sure. Then it's not a matter of, you know, oh, I prefer fried chicken. I'm a pizza guy. So if you know, it's not, we, we eat based on our, our flavor preferences.

I mean, if people could come from the past back from those pioneer days and see people today, they'd be like, oh my god, this is wild. They probably want fat.

Well, I don't know about healthy, but it was definitely a sign of wealth. And the fact that you didn't have to work. And so like when you look at those paintings from the Renaissance, it was Rubin-esque women. Yeah. Like that was attractive. Like we were psyched if you found a big fat lady. Yeah, big ol' gowns. Yeah, that girls. She's eating good. That's what I need. I'm like some skinny farmer lady. I like some royal lady. It gets to just have fruit given to her watching it. Right down.

You're doing it now. Yeah, because it's January. January's World Carnivore months. I don't know what you're talking about, but yeah, why not? I mixed in a little fruit. I eat fruit because I find when I don't do that, I did straight carnivore for the first few days, like I think like the first eight or nine days, but it was, it's hard. I was slogging through workouts. Just no energy. Yeah. Like, like, just a, and they say there's an adjustment period just like keto, you know, they call it like the, if you've ever done keto diet,

Takes a while to really get your body to turn ketogenic and to start burning fats at a carbohydrates and it's um there's a thing they call the keto flu or it feels like almost like you got the flu. It's not really like the flu. It's a bad way of describing it. It's more like you're not well rested. Gotcha. Gotcha. So like when I would work out, I would like have to really push through these workouts. Like you feel like you're missing a gear.

Yeah. You can't get into fourth gear. It's weird. It's like it doesn't feel good. I'm sorry, God. I'm just saying, but when I added fruit, that goes away.

It all depends on what the resources are, right? Of course. Yeah. I mean, if you're dealing with a culture that has access to an enormous amount of rice, an enormous amount of or cassava or whatever those things are, you know, there's different things that people eat where they, you know, they just eat it because of convenience.

But if you have access to all the food and you really wanted to live an optimal lifestyle, I do think that organs are primary. That's like eating liver and eating heart. Yep. Very, very good for you. And then eating red meat, yeah, especially like lean. This episode is brought to you by Rocket Money. How much do you think you're paying in subscriptions every month? The answer is probably more than you think. Over 74% of people have subscriptions they've forgotten about. Thanks to Rocket Money, I'm no longer wasting money on the ones that I forgot about. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions. Monitor your spending and helps lower your bills so that you can grow your savings. With Rocket Money, you have full control over your subscriptions and a clear view of your expenses. You can see all of your subscriptions in one place and if you see something you don't want, Rocket Money can help you cancel it in a few taps. Rocket Money has over 5 million users and has saved a total of $500 million in canceled subscriptions, saving members up to $740 a year. When using all the apps features, stop wasting money on things you don't use, cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocketmoney.com slash JRE. That's rocketmoney.com slash JRE. Rocketmoney.com slash JRE. This episode is brought to you by Dr. Squatch.

If you want to be more confident, you have to start taking care of yourself.

Red meat is very good for you. Mm-hmm.

I saw your post. Isn't that nuts? That was a watch. Isn't that nuts? That's a real like NIH funded food chart that places lucky charms above eggs.

Right. That's healthier. That's candy. Exactly. That's a literally chocolate. Yeah, there's almonds, but it's fucking chocolate, which is sugar. and some cacao. Yeah. That was wild. Straight horseshit. Yeah. These people are criminals. Yeah. They're all being paid off. They've all been paid off by these big food corporations. By the big food. Yeah. Oh, sure. Well, it's been proven that like there's been a bunch of these people that are like fat doctors that are trying to tell you that there are no junk foods and it's really The same kind of ones don't want you to use in terms of that. Sure. But they're being paid off by like these companies that make like fucking ho-ho videos and fucking shit. I mean, that kind of food, not maybe not those in specific, but those kinds of foods where they're readily available to supermarkets, generally in general, other than rice and some beans and some other stuff that you get in the center of the grocery store, all the shit around the edges is what you want. You want the stuff that's interesting. You want to stuff like the vegetables, like they have to like, they replace them all the time. Yeah. That's shit in the boxes in the middle. Most of that stuff's not good for you. Of course. Unless it's canned or bottled, you know, I mean, there's tomato sauces and stuff that's that's fine for you. Still packed with sugar though, right? Some of them, there's organic ones of them. Yeah. But the outside, that's what you want. Yeah. You want where the milk is, where is the cheese, where's the eggs? Show on the outside. It's refrigerated. Yep.

Yeah, you got to eat it quick. Right. and we're it's really like a lot of the stuff like especially pasteurized and homogenized milk there's a real good argument that's not even good because your body's like what is this weird liquid protein stuff this is not like where's the enzymes that are supposed to be available in raw milk

You're not doing a protein shake as well. No, it's not necessary. I mean, if you're eating meat most of what I'm eating is meat nags. Sure. That's what mostly what I mean. That's what dream diet really. But the thing is I feel great. Yeah, my I'm very clear headed and I have a lot of energy. It's like, every time I do it, every January I'm like, God, why don't you eat this way all the time? The problem is I'm a glutton. Yeah, and I really love pasta. I really love cheeseburgers and I really love pizza. I fucking love pizza man. Yeah. Oh, I love bread tastes great, but it's it's definitely not my thing in terms of like what my body responds to the best. My body responds the best to fruit and meat and eggs and and and you know organ meats and That's really in fish. Yeah. My body responds the best when I eat that stuff. And when I eat that stuff, my body's like, yeah, great. This is awesome. Like I can eat a steak and they go right on stage. Yeah, I never feel fine. Feel good. But if I eat a bowl of spaghetti, I'm going on stage. I'm fucking your trip. Yeah, for sure. It whole pizza and gone stage. That's so dumb. It's like it takes away like 30% of my mind capacity. Yeah.

I think you do. Yeah. Yeah. Why?

Yeah, I, I, I, I noticed that the first time I did it. Yeah. Yeah. First time I did it the very first kind of war month month. I noticed it was like, oh, aggro. But I also wonder because that was when I went very strict carnivore and I was having a really hard time working out. My workouts were pretty diminished and I think maybe I wasn't exerting enough energy because my body is very accustomed to working out really hard almost every day. Sure. So it's like, I feel like if you just maintain, like if you get your body to a point where it's accustomed to like exertion, especially explosive exertion, you get to kickboxing, kettlebells, like that kind of, my body's very accustomed to that. Sure. And so when I backed off of it, I wonder if that is what was responsible. Because you had this pent up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. interesting. And then I think on top of that, there's the only eating meat thing. And then I also think maybe it's not that that gets you aggressive, but that the bread and the pasta sedates you. That's probably more accurate. Probably more accurate. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

It makes a difference, and anybody who says it does and is in denial, you just really like that bread and pasta.

I fucking love it, man. But I just limit it to treats, and I know that I'm gonna get wrecked. I almost feel like it's like me going out and getting drunk. Yeah. I don't like to do that very often, but when I do do it, like, let's go and eat a cake. You don't hold cake. You don't hold cake. You don't hold cake. But if I have to choose a cake in pasta, I go past every time. Oh, really? Yeah, sweets are okay. Yeah, sweets are okay, but like I'll have a small bowl of ice cream, and it doesn't seem to affect me very much. I don't think it's the sugar and sugar clearly does affect me, but I think the big effect is the bread. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I don't think my body likes that. And in fact, my daughters have a legitimate gluten and sensitivity to allergies. Yeah, like they've gone to allergists to get tested. One of my daughters is allergic to basil. We like all kinds of stuff. She's got a beard off of dogs and cats and horses. Yeah, but he's washed. Gotcha. He's clean all the time and they're used to him. Yeah, because he's, you know, and we had dogs before him. Like they've always had dogs. So they're grown up with it.

But cats didn't. Yeah. The cat thing is rough with them. Yeah. You know, like, um, their grandmother has cats on her house. And when we go over there, like, they don't react very well. Huh. Yeah. Hmm. Cats, um, like that cat dander. Yeah. Things you can't wash a cat. Right. Right. Yeah, I'm gonna scratch you to shit. Oh, that washed my dog. He likes it. Yeah, he's getting the massage. He's like, oh, yeah, man, rub my back. So my cats like, wow. They'll try to fuck you up. You try to wash them in a sink. My cats, you can though. Yes. Some cats are calm.

My daughter has a major allergy to horses to the point where we were in Italy. And we got to ride on one of those horse driven carriages Rome. And we're like, Oh, this would be fun. Get driven around my daughter's eye starts swelling. And then we realize like, Oh, she's having a reaction to the horse. And it's up there. It's just being downwind of this horse outside outside. Outside the crazy. That's it. Oh, we have very sensitive. So we got off the thing and we had to get through a pharmacy and find some like bedding dream or some shit. Uh-huh. Whatever they're Italian equivalent. It's been a drill. Yeah.

I wanted to jerk off during those three weeks.

Yeah.

Imagine like when you knotted, you screamed in pain. Did you stoop it enough?

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Yeah. Why?

Oh, like tick to say, it's a tick-tock thing.

We probably just do it. Well, their tick-tock is very regulated. I've never used it. You're right. We're just talking about it. Yeah. It's a good point.

Yeah. So this, you should explain what it is. It swears up your dick hole.

How often does that happen?

Yeah, when you pee like are these people peeing with pants on? I think so. Yeah, shorts or swims up the legs and gets in there.

Oh, is that an operation?

It's not like not good. Yeah. This one here. Oh, get out. I don't want to see this.

Yeah, everything's trying to kill you.

Well, so does a deer bitch. The dear only fish will steal. They fucked them up.

She does not listen to the spy guys. So we'll guarantee you that she's nice. Yeah, she's just kind of wacko. A lot of them yoga people are wacko. Yeah, something about like that path.

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of them up there. A lot of rich ladies. They've tried to find meaning after the kids leave the house. Yeah. They really get in the yoga.

Oh, there was a yoga instructor that I knew that was doing that. He was banging all these ladies. Yeah, he was just he was like so cheesy. I couldn't believe it worked like the ponytail. Yeah, he didn't have the ponytail, but he was like he would like sing yoga songs in class, but he was like Really into himself. It's like yikes. You know people like give off a vibe. Yeah, bro. Yeah, that's you know like I almost like a televangelous device.

Now only for dummies. Yeah, wouldn't work. You got it like to be a really good cult leader like I think it's like a bouncing act.

Yeah. There's a lot of them out there, though. Yeah. I don't think you have to be that good to be a cult leader. Now, you could be pretty shitty at it. How do you find your followers? That's a good question. I think you start off being a self-help guru. Oh, that makes sense. Self-help guru and then you eventually move people into some sort of a communal situation. Yeah. Like we don't need society. You can do it better on. I'll be here later and then he's banging everybody's body wants all your money and doesn't sound terrible. It does if you have you're the guy whose wife is getting like honey. Yeah, what I thought we're just gonna be peaceful out here.

Well, you know, he wants to bless me again on Tuesday sex parasitic wasps freaked me out and there's a shit load of them there's so many there's so many species of parasitic was yeah that's what's really fascinating like and not only just parasitic in terms of like entering humans but also and they like inject their larvae into plants and logs and shit

It does. No, not first. Eventually. Yeah. I was confused. Well, I know I think I'm thinking of something.

Yeah. Yeah. There are so I bred there's like a hundred. There's like a hundred different like parasitic wasps. Yeah. It's not crazy. Not like it's a weird thing that like nature has invented this creature that shoves its babies into some other creature's body with a needle. Yep. Yeah. Look at this. So this is the

Yeah, and it's a parasitic. Stinging it from the bottom.

Yeah, he's like, Jack's low. Yeah. He's like, oh, boy, I'm confused. So look how it, like, crawls on its back. It's not crazy. Shabs it in the body. That's what's nuts. Like, look how it reaches up.

Oh, you're right. I believe a single egg inside the spider's belly once it's paralyzed. What a fucking nutty situation. There's so many of them, and then there's even more bizarre shit. See that when the egg hatches, the wasp, or whatever, will eat the spider from the inside out. Yokes. So, I mean, there's even weird shit, which is fungus.

It's wild. Not only is it manipulated, but when they hatch, when the spores explode, to infect all the other bugs around them. Right.

And it's also wild is that ants realize this is happening. So they will drag an infected ant far away from their colony.

Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, they figured it out. How do ants fucking communicate? Because if you see like leaf cutter ants, which I have in my neighborhood, leaf cutter ants colonies that they have underground where they're sophisticated systems of ventilation and they're literally fermenting leaves down there. It's like what?

If you think about that when they let go Yeah, like some shit. It's not like everyone's not gonna make it

There's no rope.

Yes.

It's a long rope. That's pretty stupid. I guess they probably had to just swing over there. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Oh, did they swing over there?

Right. How are they doing that? I don't know. How did they swing? Imagine how fucking strong the ants at the very top that are hanging onto the board holding the whole giant rope of ants. Yeah. They're all bunch of eggs. You can see right through it. Look at that. It's unbelievable nuts. Yeah. It's really nuts. What a crazy organism. Yeah. It's the fact that they're the biomass of ants. I think the biomass of ants on earth is equal to the biomass of humans. Oh, really?

Is that true? It's finally done. It's pretty impressive enough with eight billion fatso humans. Correct. And these little, little tiny things. Yeah. Way as much as us. I say way more than it's even crazier.

That's two two pyramids of ants.

Hmm. Really? So it's only 20% of the bar. There you go, Matt. Yes. Human biomass.

Sounds better. Let me say as much. Yeah, let's go back to the other way. Yeah. Even 20% when you see how fucking little they are. Yeah, I know. I mean, what do they want one millionth of a human?

The channel islands I think is the channel islands used to be a big bow hunting destination. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because they used to have a bunch of different species that someone had brought over there at one point in time like elk and deer and they killed them all like from a helicopter.

Yeah, they're not wild.

I think so.

Or you just dumb a shit, you'd be a manipulative by people. True. I think they castrate them, too.

Pigs can have three letters a year. Yeah, that's what's nuts.

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By the Spaniards, right? Correct. Yeah. Yeah, nuts. It's not crazy. I mean, that's crazy, but maybe it's even crazier. The fact they brought smallpox as well and killed 90% of the Native Americans.

Yeah. When you tell people that, because so many people, most people are aware there was a genocide of Native Americans. Sure. But most people are not aware that most of it was due to disease. Right. When I had explained that to someone that it was 90% of the people were killed by smallpox or like, what?

Yeah, it just came with people. Interesting. I don't think they really understood how to introduce diseases back then like the idea that they thought that you could have it on a blanket. Yeah, yeah. I don't think that's true. Oh, interesting. Let's find that out. I believe that myth has been busted, but they know now that that's what killed off the minds. Yeah, like because there was always this big mystery, like where are the minds? Where did these people do this incredible civilization? So complex. Yeah, mimic the cosmos and their architecture. There's no evidence that the scheme worked. Infection of the blankets was apparently old so no one could catch smallpox from the blankets besides the Indians just had smallpox. Smallpox had reached four pit and it come from Indians and anyone susceptible to smallpox had already had it. Yeah, I just think I think it was just a thing that people had and they brought it over and then it killed everybody. It also killed everybody in the Amazon.

They had no natural immunity to it. Right. And then that's also what they believe was responsible for decimating the Amazon. Like they think the Amazon, it billions of people.

That's really interesting. The really wild stuff that's being done on the Amazon is LIDAR. We're finding all this evidence of these ancient structures that were just overcome by the jungle.

Fucking wild. Yeah. But it totally makes sense, man. If you bring in smallpox. I mean smallpox kills like 90% of the people to get it. Right. Right. So it's just fucking decimated the populations of these places where these European settlers made through. That's the whole story behind the lost city of Z. You know.

Well, the theory behind it is, and all sorts of diseases, not just smallpox, but that when the Europeans first came through, when they first reported about these and made immense cities, they were there. Yeah, they were there. Yeah. And so then when people came back, like 100 years later, they was bullshit. Right. Because the jungle would just overcome everything.

And then there's the weirdness that the jungle itself is actually man-made.

I don't know if they didn't know that. No, tell me. Yes, most of the plants that are overwhelming the rainforest are from agriculture from ancient civilizations. Yeah, I think it's like the ice cream being tree and a bunch of other different trees, but these trees were all trees that had been grown. Yes, it is actually man-made. One of thousands of earth works built by remarkable but little known ancient societies. The Amazon prior to the arrival of Europeans in the Americas, and 1492 is commonly depicted as a pristine wilderness dotted with small simple communities. Wow. The Amazon rainforest created. Yeah, that would click on that one. The supposedly pristine, untouched Amazon rainforest was actually shaped by humans. Over thousands of years, native people played a strong role in molding the ecology of this vast wilderness. So these trees that overwhelm the rainforest, they were planted. They're cultivated. Yeah, and then they just, they became, they just run a muck. Interesting. Yeah, they're just really fertile and the ground, they had developed this type. Was it called teraprata? Teraprata is what it's called. They developed a very specific type of soil that they they actually it's. Oh, yes. I know about this.

I'm not exactly sure, right?

They're using the resources. Yeah, I don't think they're saying they're invasive. I'm just thinking they're cultivated.

Graham Hancock, thanks for was 20 million people living in it. 20 million? Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. He thinks it's a, it is a vast society. Wow. I was filled with human beings and structures and, and this is all being like, they have only used LiDAR and a very small percentage of the, of course. Yeah. And they're showing all sorts of structures. Wow. Irrigation systems and grids that indicate cities and blocks. It's wild stuff, man.

That's an interesting argument that when things are easy that people don't grow or evolve, that seems weird to me. Because it would seem to me that once your resources were taken care of, once you have food and shelter, you have more time to think. So you have more time to make life convenient, more time to sell goods that would be valuable to people, more time to improve and innovate on those goods.

The reason why that doesn't make any sense is Egypt. Sure. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense because that's the absolutely most sophisticated culture, but pre what we understand of history. Yeah. But not on the equator. It is quite far from the equator, but it's also like very, very lush. Very like the the dial valley they think, you know, 9,000 plus years ago, it was like extremely lush. Yeah, which is one of the reasons why they were able to reach this high level of sophistication because they had access to resources.

Yeah, that's what that makes more sense to me, but I don't think they're mutually exclusive. I think correct things could exist. I agree. Like you could have it too easy or you could have it to the point where there's plenty of food to hunt and gather and you see no need to move out of the hunter gather or stage. But then you could also see like super sophisticated societies that lived in that area like they think the Amazon was. Right. Right. That they would they would innovate. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. And also you have a large population. Even if it's a small percentage of people innovating, it's gonna It's going to impact the great number of people.

Yeah, and then people came through there with their. After everybody fucking killed them all, that's that. This is really wild man. It's really wild. If you think if that is true, that how horrific that is, that they just basically reset everybody back to the Stone Age,

It certainly could. I mean, it has before it probably will again. I mean, I was scared of it, too, in March of 2020. I felt like, oh my god, that's going down. Right. When they were shutting the country down. Totally. Jesus Christ, we're living in a movie. Everything.

The problem is there was an irresponsible level of fear that was promoted by the media, because the media has an interest in getting you a pay attention to what they're saying. And that irresponsible level of fear, the problem with that is like, even if they know what they're doing, they know that it's propaganda, people get sucked in. And then they get scared forever. And if you don't ever give them good data and you're always exaggerating the threat and exaggerating the death number and exact, Dr. Alina Wen, who was like the biggest proponent of, you know, shut everything down, shame the unvaccinated, cast them out of sight all of that. Now she's saying that they, they, they, what is like her, she had a recent article where she said they overestimated the amount of people that actually died from COVID. And I think she said the real number is about 30% of what they're claiming. Oh, you're kidding. Oh, wow. Because when you die of COVID, if you also have cancer, if you're dying of something else, but you test positive for COVID, they call it a COVID death. Yeah, I remember reading that. Even accidents and even people that like, because there was a financial incentive.

It was just part of the problem. Doctor Lina went slammed after admitted there's been an over-counting of COVID deaths two and a half years late. When claimed the actual COVID-19 death could be only 30% of what's currently reported. There's also been, I mean, I don't know how the system exactly works, but there's been doctors that explained what incentive there is to put someone on the ventilator, what incentive there is to prescribe Remtesphere. Because it's all financial decisions, right? Yeah. Because of the emergency use authorization because of the pandemic there's all these and when when you have money involved things get fucking squirrely you get real weird and always and then I didn't real I like I'm so ignorant I didn't know that most hospitals or a large number of hospitals are privately owned Yeah, I was like what?

I thought, like, where's this money coming from? Something that, like, the government funds, so that we all take care of each other. Not here, not in those countries. Yeah, no. Yeah, you have the fact that pharmaceutical companies are responsible for 75% of the ads on television. Really?

75%. 75% of the ads on television. We're one of two countries on Earth that allows pharmaceutical companies to advertise. I had no idea. The other one is New Zealand, and they're far more restrictive than we are. And so you have, like, so much. And then every, and we lost people in terms of, like, losing their mind and their anxiety that never came back. Yeah. Like, I just saw an article today about how I think it's time to mask up at award shows again. Oh, really? Yeah. See, you can find that.

Yeah. Human beings. You're that vulnerable. You shouldn't be going to the award show in the first place. Yes. Yeah. If you are not healthy, like, right? And also, right?

you're still still after all these years still no like encouraging people to take vitamin D no encouraging people to lose weight no encouraging people to take care of their overall metabolic health so they'll have a more robust immune system and they can survive these things no Now, nothing, nothing.

Yeah, lucky charms thing. It might be time to mask up at a word show.

Nobody likes them. You guys like them. We don't even like them. We watch them because there's nothing else on the kind of people that really like award shows. They wish they were there. I wish I was getting that award.

Yeah. Yeah, you heard when Will Smith slapped Chris Wright. I did see that. Yeah, I did see that. That was the last fucking dying breath of the Oscars. Yeah. And this can't be just interesting. That's tough. Um, mask. They don't work. That's the other thing. See those thing, Lena Wednesday, the cloth masks are essentially facial coverings. Like, she didn't say that at the beginning of the pandemic, but she said it recently. Interesting. On CNN, they're like, oh, they must have been very upset. Well, I think she's realizing that her reputation is at stake. And she's got to actually report real facts. Yeah. And so that like, and also the writing on the wall, like, when we're looking back at this from five years from now, or 10 years from now, we're looking at adverse reactions, and we're looking at all these different things. And what we did to kids, how we stunted their developments by masking everybody and keeping them at home. The whole thing's not. And it was a very mild pandemic in terms of like, this is what it could have been. Right. Black play. Right. And the horrific pandemics of the past. Right. Right.

It wasn't even COVID positive. It doesn't even make sense.

Wow. Yeah. Unbelievable. I mean, there's two tragedy simultaneously, right? The big ones that he died hitting his head. Of course. Of course. Yeah. What a way to go. Yeah.

So, you know. Yeah, I talked to Gabor Mate about that, who's an expert in addictions and trauma. And he thinks that people that are drawn to like free solo climbing like the Alex Hamilton's to the world.

Yeah. He's like, there's something wrong with the way they developed. Sure. They're muted. and like maybe because of so much persistent trauma when they were young. Oh, interesting. I forget exactly how we described it, but that this is a reaction to trauma, like youthful trauma.

They're putting themselves in trauma's way, because that's the only way they feel things. Yeah. I mean, I, well, that's the only way they feel alive. Like, they get this. I don't know how you feel with someone else feels. Right. How would you know that?

So what are you sort of on giant anacondas? Because there's always been this thing about enormous anacondas that live in the rainforest.

What do they think it was?

But they don't know what kind of snake they don't know if it was a snake. No. No. No. No.

What is the biggest snake that we know? Oh, it says it measured approximately 50 feet in length. So a brown green with a white belly has a triangle shape jaw on a head three by two feet. Oh my god, the three foot head. The photo was later analyzed and verified to be genuine. Van Leard claims that is how he says name.

as he flew lower for a closer inspection snake rose up approximately ten feet giving a warning that it would have attacked a helicopter if it had been within striking range.

You're like, you're like an M&M to a snake, that's right. You're like, you're like an M&M to a snake, that's right. You're like an M&M to a snake, that's right.

Wow. Indonesian villagers claimed to have captured a python that is almost 49 feet long and weighs nearly 990 pounds.

But this is NBC. This is NBC news. Let's see if it has images this sucker.

Look at the size of that goddamn thing. Yeah. Jesus. So what is the biggest snake? Is it a python? The biggest snake that we know of?

That's the other thing. It turns out to be a tall tail. It says when recreation park in Indonesia put a huge reticulated python on show last week, keepers insisted to report as it was 49 feet long. Make it the longest ever caught, but that the fine turned out to be a tall tail. Yeah. So how big was it?

21 feet still. Yeah. It's a big snake, man. But not 50. Not 50. Was it? I have no idea why the snake is shrunk. I said one keeper when asked about the script and see, is the snake lounged on a tree branch inside the cave before. But things do shrivel up when you catch them. You know, like fish do, like when you catch them all fish.

Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, it's great little spa. Yeah, really fine. Right in front of the Google building.

Yeah. Um, so the biggest in the world is the Python right. So they are bigger than in a condom.

Did you ever see the Jennifer Lopez movie?

So bad. But that was always the rumor is that there was enormous snakes in the Amazon and that you know, you just didn't see him.

And the sloth one, I watched a documentary on it once. It was this guy who was like risking his reputation. He was biologists. And he had spent months in the Amazon. He was very frustrated. Yeah. Because he couldn't find anything in the kept saying, we saw it. We saw it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

What was this that they did?

Well, there was always these rumors of like these places where these billionaires would fly into in China and eat like gorilla. Yeah, and yeah, if you ever heard of that.

There's a status symbol of eating something that's forbidden, very difficult to acquire. Exactly.

Yeah, that's what a weird culture. Your status is based on eating something that's endangered.

Have we ever talked about the Bondo Ape?

This is just a big chimpanzee that lives in the Congo, which is the Congo so incredible. It's like God, what an insanely rich resource written place that's also a war zone and being and being absolutely raped and pillaged by, you know, big corporations in the Western world for resources and minerals and I had said Darth Kara on who his book, I think his book comes out. Does it come out next week? It sums out the end of January. Okay. Um, but his book is all about cobalt mining. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, horrifying. Nineteen year old girls with babies on their back were hand-chipping cobalt of the ground and then inhaling all these toxic fumes and powder this dust. And then that is in your cell phone. Right. That's how the coal bolt gets in your fucking cell phone.

I'm just thinking about how many people who consider themselves social justice warriors and they do this complaining on a phone that's made by slaves. Totally.

Well, the contributing to the worst version of it and humanity right now is an actually crazy really crazy. I mean, it's like literally human trafficking.

Oh, you're doing his story is so compelling. talks about it with such passion because he worked on this for years and years. And risked his life to obtain footage and to get access and to go to these what they're supposedly, you know, ethical minds. Yeah. And he's like, this is all horrible. It goes all of it is tainted. Yeah. All the cobalt that we have, all of it is at least in some part coming from these, you know, what they would call. It's basically just the most primitive version, people in flip flops with hammers, chipping it out of the ground. What's extreme poverty?

Right. And it's more like slavery. It is calling it extreme poverty. I think it's not quite accurate enough. They call them artisanal minds, which is like hilarious because it's like anytime you slap that word on anything.

It's artisanal. Yeah. Oh, great. I think someone's making pottery somewhere. Yeah. Totally. Totally. Yeah, so back to the the Bondo tape. Is that? Well, what is because I know there was some controversy behind that and there's some people that sort of denied its existence, but then Carl Armand got photographs of them and they obtained skulls that were at chimpanzees skull that had a crest. Yeah, but they also had a like a crest with the same way that a gorilla does.

That's my understanding of it. But would that also make their skulls different? It can do, you know, because like, okay, well, oddly enough, we have a skull. Yeah, it's very cool. This is made by Shane against the machine, who's a guy on Instagram is an incredible artist. So cool. It's called a couple of pieces for the podcast. Oh, right. The difference is with this skull versus what they think the Bondo Ape skull is that the Bondo Ape has like a bone mohawk down through the center. Yeah. Yeah, like a gorilla does.

If I'm not, I don't think I'm incorrect here. I think this, the crest indicates enormous mandible muscles. I think because the muscles attach up there. Yeah, I think that's what the crest is for. Yeah. Because that's how it is with dogs. Sure. Like if you ever notice a difference between a dog that's castrated in a dog that's not fixed. One thing, sure. The size of their heads. Oh, interesting. Yeah. My dog is a golden retriever. Yes. We just started in the world. Yeah. He has pretty big head. Yeah. And it's the muscles in his head are big. Sure. On the sides of his head because he has his testosterone. Sure. Whereas we met this other golden retriever that was fixed and he has this narrow little tiny head. Sure. And it's because he doesn't have any muscles.

And they have to tear them apart.

So they just think it's like a subspecies of champ.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I had thought that they don't think it's a different champ, but they do think it's different in terms of its size and temperament.

And Norm was giant fucking people who used Vikings. Exactly. Yeah. And how world strong man champions have come from Iceland? No, all of them. Shitloaded. Yeah. They're all like that guy, the mountain from Game of Thrones.

What his name is from Iceland. Four or half horse ones. Exactly. Yeah. Try saying his fucking name. I mean, that part of the world is produced in an exorbitant number. Yeah, look at that name though. Yeah. Yeah.

Bjorn. It's the first of all. They're not even using real letters. No. What's that thing after the F? That's like a half a P, a half a B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B. A B.

Look at that. How big is that fucker?

Six eight. I see it there 200 centimeters which like Shaquille kneels look I don't know dude going to my bitch.

Oh, yeah, that's nonsense nonsense. No, that's it. That's that's not true at all. You two is when he floods waste that big Oh, maybe when he was 16. Even then.

Oh, he's got it. Well, I think you got. Yeah, he got really heavy 20. But then he. Four six. He's there. Four sixty three. Okay, but then he slimmed down to have a boxing match. It a boxing match with Eddie Hall. Did he win? Yeah, he won. It actually looked really good. Yeah. It showed really good technique, too. Like, wasn't like winging punches. He was like fighting like a boxer. I mean, trained for a long time for it.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Who do you imagine?

Yeah, just the sheer gravity of that punch. Boom. It is fascinating how people in that part of the world, I mean, they were the Vikings. Yeah, that's the why they're so fucking shiny. It's where they've come from.

Where are they going to put them?

Wow. And so they're using what DNA they're using elephant DNA and mixing it with something else.

And what does an Indian elephant look like? Is it similar to an elephant?

a real man. So it's not like a hybrid.

This process, how long does this take?

Exactly. Exactly.

That's interesting. That's really interesting. There's a lot of debate about whether or not humans killed off the William Amethos.

So they're going to start with the woolly mammoth? Yeah. And what other animals are they thinking about doing this to?

When are they projecting the first woolly mammoth will be launched 2024? What yeah next year next year end of next year. Oh my god.

Yeah, it'll be in the same two tigers

I don't know. I don't know. That would be incredible. A lot of wild animals. Those must have been the look at. Saber two giant teeth. Yeah, but literally hang out of their mouth. It's and apparently they're so sensitive that they could find jugulars like those teeth. Yeah, yeah, they could feel the pulsating jugular with their teeth. just because of the nerve endings. Yeah, I didn't know that.

It's horrible. It's horrible. And that's the Tasmanian tiger, which is what? The Tasmanian devil. Sorry, Tasmanian devil. What a crazy little animal that fuckers. They're so cool. And the noises they make. Yeah, yeah, they're wild. See if we can find a recording of Tasmanian devil noises.

What does it? Here we go. Look at those little fuckers. They're going mouth to mouth with each other.

Yeah, look at them. Yeah, they're real cute. Really cute. Does anybody ever have them as pets?

No, they have them. Oh my God, people have mispets?

They're adorable. They are. So the people, but this is like little tiny babies, like a wonder what, you know, it's maybe it's like some animals, like you get to a certain age. You can't like keep many more.

Most people think of the Tasmanian devil as that cartoon. That's really when people think about that. It's one of the only animals where the cartoon is more popular than the actual animal.

Like I couldn't pick that animal out of a line up. If you try to, I mean, wow. Now I can't because I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. If, look at these little, let me hear some volume.

The only why you're about seven kilos?

There's also one value. That's a warm batting here. Look, look, look, look, look. This is what I'm talking about. That's a warm bat. Yeah.

I think people keep those as pets as adults.

Right. And so that would help Tasmania and are they going to do this to other continent? Oh, that's terrible.

Well, that's the chupacabra. Straight up the chupacobra is a coyote a major has a horrible means. Yeah, yeah, and they've captured them like people. We caught a chupacobra and it's sitting in a cage all terrified. The fuck does your swollen shot. Yeah, yeah, it's just a fucked up coyote. Yep. The North American mammals like are they planning on eventually doing that North American mammals as well and reintroducing some?

Are you aware of the Alaskan bone yard?

Yeah. But his place that he has in Alaska, like they've been on, and it's not a big area where he's finding this stuff. Yeah. He's got two areas, and one of them that he's been getting bones, what he calls boaning. This one area for decades. Yeah. It's only six acres. That's all it is. Dude, it's nuts. The concentration. So that's what it looks like. It's like the side of a cliff and they blast it with water until they see things and then they pull out these bones. But they found animals that were not supposed to be there.

Yes. And he's only looked in six acres. Can you imagine? That's crazy. I mean, they don't know what is going on in that area. Why are there so many dead animals? And why did they all get frozen into the Permafinto's one spot, right?

So I've connected him with Randall Carlson. Um, look at that. Yeah, that's that incredible. That's got to be a sandwich. It's okay. It's a cave line. Cool. I don't know if they thought that was there, too. So I've connected him with Randall Carlson arm in the process of doing that. And Randall is a proponent of the younger drives impact theory. And the younger dry simpact theory is somewhere in the neighborhood of 12,000 years ago, there was some impacts from comments. Oh, and probably wiped out most of the animals that were thinking about like North American megafauna, like 65% of them were wiped out somewhere around that time period. From these things, they're wiped out from commented packs. Interesting. And things, that's why you're finding these massive storages of these dead animals in this one specific area.

Because they were already there, but they died all at once. I see. So it's like... So it's not like over the years. It's like an instantaneous mass die-off. And he's got photographic evidence of these mass die-offs as well, too, because one of the things that they found in terms of with woolly mammoths, they found enormous fields of them. where they've not just found like one dead one, but hundreds of them. And they find them with broken legs, and he thinks that's indicative of the impact of whatever happened. I mean, it's almost like a bomb going off. They just get smack back, but that these things most likely died in mass, and that this area where John Reeves has in Alaska is a particularly fertile area, particularly rich area for finding these skeletons.

But... And he has so much. Yeah. He has thousands and thousands of bones. And many, many, many, many full tusks of woolly mammoths.

He's got millions of dollars worth of tusks. Yeah. He's got them all over the place. It's stacks of them. They find them all the time. Jawas. Jawas. Jawas. Yeah. So it's the bone. It's a mammoth jaw, right? It's got the flat grinding teeth. Yeah. Look at those teeth, man. Incredible. Yeah. So it's the bone yard Alaska on Instagram and he's got it very detailed and he's invited me up there actually sent me a message after I think our first show, somehow we got on the same topic. And he sent me that we talked about him and he said he got 15,000 new Instagram followers in conversation. Good for him. That's great. And he's like, oh, I don't want to talk to Joe when tell my whole story. And so we had him on. He was, you know, he's wealthy. Like he doesn't have to talk to people about stuff. He's choosing to. Yeah. So he just does it because he wants to. Yeah. So he's like, he won't talk to journalists. He's getting all these phone calls from New York Times. These people, he's like, fuck off.

They apparently they were. Yeah. According to the records, they dumped the shitload of them and he gave out the very specific location. So now there's guys combing the bottom with radar and looking for these things.

It's been there for it wasn't it the 1930s that they did this? 40s? 40s? Yeah, there's a bunch of people yesterday about it. Oh, look at this treasure hunter search New York City's East River. Ha ha. In the funny, this all came from my stupid old farm.

You see it or is it? Re-reporting this like it's look at this.

Look at that. The New York Post there. Show me some love. Nice.

Yeah nuts. Have you ever heard of the American Prairie Reserve?

Is that what's called Jamie? What is that thing we're now going to talk about that? They're trying to reap, they're trying to buy up massive swaths of land and reintroduce bison. Yeah, American prairie. So they're going to reintroduce bison and a bunch of different animals to this area and they even doing block management in these places. And they essentially want to rewild some of the great planes.

So I can read that, Jamie. It says, uh, Bison used to number in the millions on the Great Plains, but animals in conservation hurts now, standing around 31,000 are considered near threatened. Because most conservation hurts are less than 500 on small landscapes, the species is listed as ecologically extinct, meaning Bison no longer play their critical roles in shaping Prairie biodiversity. So what they want to do is bring them back.

Only an estimated 360,000 bison remained in North America today. Of these less than 10% live in conservation hurts, most of the bison on the landscape today are raised for commercial purposes. And what's really crazy is they got down to almost extinct. Yeah. They got really close to Hunter.

Yeah, the pictures of people standing on piles of bones are so horrible. It's so gross. Like what they did and the quickness in which they did it, where they almost eradicated the bison from North America. And, you know, they weren't even eating them. They were eating tongues. Right. And they were getting the skins from some of them later on, but a lot of it they were doing it for the tongues.

Because I really the majority of it. I believe so.

Exactly.

It's a, I mean, it most certainly was a tragedy, but like almost like inexcusable to the point of extinction. I think that's so close.

It was, well, obviously inexcusable. I don't mean inexcusable, like unfixable. Yeah. And if that's better words. Sorry. When you look at the size of the piles of bones that they were standing on and like that they didn't see that this how fucked up this was.

Oh, they had to quickly. Yeah. They had to. I mean, if you're shooting millions of them, it's just nuts. Do you are you aware of Dan Flores? Dan Flores is a professor. I think out of New Mexico. I think one of the universities in New Mexico. But he had a paper that he wrote called Bison Ecology and Bison Diplomacy. Okay. And his, his belief is that would you look at the millions and millions of bison that were in North America at one point in time with these massive hurts yeah he's like that is not historically uh... it's not what people initially saw when they first came to North America And he believes the reason for that is that the Native Americans, when they got knocked down by 90%, they were the primary predators of the bison. And then the bison numbers rose to these extraordinary numbers. And that it was due to the fact that these Native American populations had been killed off by smallpox that allowed. So it's his belief that with the use of the horse,

How did people kill off the passenger pigeon? Because it wasn't the passenger, when there are millions and millions of pasture pigeons. Millions.

How do they not know that they were on their way to get rid of them? How do they not know that that was happening?

Isn't it crazy how different people look at things like wildlife conservation today? Yeah. First, it's just a few hundred years ago. It's like, what does will kill all the bison? Yeah. Totally.

The only animals that were really good at conserving are the ones we want to eat. Oh, yeah. The ones we want to shoot. Yeah. So there's more white-tailed deer in North America today than the were when Columbus arrived. Right. And that's 500% because of hunting. It is. And also because of agriculture. Right. Because they flock to these agriculture area. Corn fields. That's why you know, like, please, like Iowa, it's all these farms. Like there's so many deer, giant deer and Iowa. Right. Yeah.

But yeah, it's actually amazing that job that wildlife biologists have done in this country and conservation. Absolutely. Absolutely. They're really pretty goddamn good at setting up the correct number of tags and making sure the habitat is preserved and allocating that money for rangers and wardens and making sure that these people monitor these animals and stop poaching and

You know, I am so interested in seeing what they decide to do. If this really takes off in Siberia with the woolly mammoths, if they reintroduce them, just not just in Alaska, but then bring them into Montana, bring them into, you know, the lower 48, and then start reintroducing other things. If they can figure out how to do that with a Saber 2 Tiger, that would be welcome.

A lot of mammoths.

We're just gonna make them all. Tourism involved. I mean, how many people would want to go and travel to see William Mammoth?

You and I are going to see them. 100%. Yes. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if there's going to be like groups of people that want to hunt them with spears and like put like long claws on shit.

You can hunt them, but you could only hunt them using the tools and weapons that were available when they were alive.

Yeah, no bullets. Fuck you. No chance. Fuck off. Like you can have a TV. Yeah, you gotta make it yourself with the nameless guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would be wild. People would do it. Would you do it? No. No. Fuck that. Dude. Honey with a bone arrow is tricky enough. Honey with a spear fuck off. That's crazy.

There are spears hunters like.

Yeah, I mean, it's not that good.

Yeah, it's like You're not good at it. They used to be legal to hunt with a spear in Alberta until a guy killed a bear with a spear and made this awful video about it and it was a big deal and then under armor, you know, gotten trouble because like they didn't support these people that were they weren't even really sponsored by under armor. These people since they there was just like this recent thing with them with poaching and they got accused of poaching and I think they got sentenced to probation and they're not allowed to hunt in certain states, but it's like why would you hunt with a spear? Like honey with the bone arrows very effective. If you are disciplined and like I am very accurate with a bow. I can shoot. I shoot an index card that I set up at a target regularly at 85 yards. And you're consistent. And I'm consistent. I practice every day. It's not like this is not a thing where with a rifle much more accurate. Sure. And I'm much more consistent. It's much easier to do. So you could make the argument that it's better to hunt with a rifle. I definitely could see that. But if you do the work and if you are disappointed enough and if you practice enough and if your technique is right, You can be very very effective with above me. You can go out there and see all the skulls I have. Yeah, a lot of them. Elk with bows and arrows and all the deer. I eat them all. This is a very effective way to get meat, but a spear is so inefficient. And you're aiming at your balls. And you're not going to kill it quickly. Right. You know, I mean, unless you get the drop on one that's sleeping, right? You look five feet away and you chuck it right through the ribcage and chill it quickly. What's the likelihood of that? Not very likely. Yeah. The likelihood is that you're going to wound this thing and then you're going to like chase it down and then you're probably going to stick it again and.

Yeah. This guy thinking through a, I think the spirit through it had a GoPro on it.

So you got this horrible. Yeah, it was all for social media. It was all for the collection. And then they made it illegal. So now it's illegal and Alberta to hunt with a spear because this one is individual.

Yeah. Look, you use a rifle. Use a bow and arrow. Right, you know, you can kill them very easily with a bow and arrow. I mean, they allow baiting up there. Gosh, because they have to reduce the populations. They have a very high number of black bears up there. Very high. And so they use baiting, which is they'll set out like donut. Sure, sure. And the bears smell like the bears count. And you can shoot too bare a year. Oh, wow. Yeah, so you're, you know, there's then they're trying to give out tags because they want people to hunt these things. is the number of black bear overpopulated due to that meeting people's garbage due to not enough grizzly bears like why are there too many black bears of their population is increasing to the point where they're making an argument that you should have tags for grizzly bear interest my friends john and Jen who live up in Alberta uh... uh... uh... uh... been up there place before they're seeing a lot of grizzlies now they're seeing them all over the place up now interesting But by far, more black bear. But you know what the biggest population of black bear in North America is? Where? New Jersey. Really? More black bear per capita in New Jersey than anywhere else in the country. They're everywhere.

Well, now they know where the chicken's going to happen.

You're not allowed to kill them. It's part of the problem. And I wouldn't. You have to get a depredation permit. A tag.

But they're never going to stop. The thing about bears is once they know. Yeah, once they know. And you can't habituate it. You cannot stop them. That's possible.

Have you ever seen the video of these giant bears brawling and far walk away New Jersey? No, you need to see this because it's crazy. It's a very residential neighborhood. And they're just, they're just falling together. No normal suburbs, where like, kids are waiting for the school bus. Yeah. And we're talking like 300 pound plus black bears. Just going at it. Look at this. They're on the guy's porch practically. Holy crap. So they're fighting over garbage. Like who gets access to the garbage? Look at the size of these fuck yeah. And these are big bears. I mean, this is the kind of bear, like both of these bears, the kind of bear that you'd want to hunt. Now, the governor of New Jersey, the most recent governor, he ran on a platform of stopping the bear hunt. Because all the dorky liberals that live in like the, you know, the nice cities, they don't have any idea. The property of the voters don't understand or can't accept the problem, which is the same in a lot of places where these urban areas of vote on things that happen in Partly areas. Yeah, and rural areas where they have no idea what the problem is. Yeah. So the amount of human bear interactions went up so much by over 200%. They had to reinstate the bear, uh, hunt within two years of him being the governor. Really. Yeah. So like right away. So it's would he get it in 2020 and then by 2022 he's like okay enough and has it made it. In fact has it helped. Yeah. Well, they're going to start on them again now. And they're actually going to raise the number of bears you're allowed to kill. Got raise the number of tags. Just to level it out. They have to. But there's so many of them.

It's totally natural for them to be fighting on stairs. totally. Yeah, that's that's their natural battling habitat.

You also have to make them fearful of humans. Right. Don't look. I mean, the thing about what you're doing, trying to scare that bear off. It's not gonna work. No, I agree with you. When they've catch bears going into people's garbage, they have to relocate the bears. Yeah, they call them naughty bears. Yeah, naughty bears. Notty bears. Then they relocate them because if you don't relocate them, they know where the garbage is, why would they go on a deer when they could just go into your garbage? Right. I can pull out that subway sandwich that you didn't finish.

That's my solution. Unfortunately, you live in a state where there's no way you can get a permit to shoot that thing. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, especially if you live in only one acre. Yeah, one acre is not good even with a bow and arrow because you could get a pass through and cut it to somebody's fucking matter. In fact, my friend Bruce said that one of his neighbors, someone shot a crossbow through a deer and it went through their window and stuck in their wall. Holy shit. Yeah, we're Travis neighbors walls got penetrated by a crossbow bolt. But that whoever did that's a fucking asshole. Yeah, and it's not legal either. I'm sure some jackass. I'm sure. Who wanted a shoot a deer maybe for food?

Yeah, probably. You know, that does happen. I mean, it does happen, especially, you know, with in poor neighborhoods. Yeah, like you could get so much meat off of a deer, you know, getting it for weeks and weeks.

That was so good. So good for you, too. It's so nutrient dense. Yeah. It's like, it's like no other meat. It really is. It feels different. It feels like it looks different. It's like more firm when you push on it. It's like

Yeah, I eat everything. Yeah, I do everything. I've been feeding the liver a lot to my dog, too. Yeah. Yeah, cook it. Maybe that's why he's got that big head. No, he's just, but my God, the way he eats it, it's crazy. That's not for us. Yeah, frenzy, the luckiest little crackhead.

No, that stuff sucks. Yeah. Exactly. But you give him some elk liver. They go bonkers. Yeah, he loves it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like just since they're like staring at me salivating little drips on the ground. He goes nuts. It's funny.

Yeah. He knows also when I'm using a chopping board that there's a one at ten chance he's getting some of that. Yeah. So he'll like sit there, here's chop chop chop chop. It looks wired in. Yeah, but you know, animal organs, it's funny how human beings at one point in time favored animal organs. Right. But it was the primary thing that we liked to eat. Yeah. You know, like I had sunny from best-ever food review. He's got that. Have you ever seen that YouTube show? No, I don't know. Great YouTube show. And he travels all over the world. eating with tribal people and going to exotic locations and eating their their foods and it was amazing like he's spent time with the the hods on in in Tanzania and he spent time with all these different tribal people where they were they killed a goat and they're scooping up the blood the coagulated blood strengthening it so eating it there with them is like well Yeah, that's not really and they also take raw liver and squirt bile on it That's not really and they enjoy it.

He says it's awful. So gross. Yeah, but for whatever reason these people have developed a taste for it, which is really fascinating.

Yeah, there's no options. It's just survival. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But bliver was always a big thing with a command sheet. The command sheet would take liver, raw liver, and they would score bile on it. Oh, I didn't really say as well. It's crazy. It's a very common thing to eat it that way.

I think that started off with Paul Saladino, and then it moved its way to the liver king. And unfortunately, I think there's a lot of people that were duped into thinking that could actually look like that guy if they were eating raw liver and raw testicles.

Yes, eat those things. Yeah, yeah organs. That's really good for you, but yeah. But the idea that that's going to turn you into, but I did read something about, um, oh, actually it was informed by a friend that eating testicles. that it is possible that eating testicles has an androgenic effect. And you can actually get some oral form of testosterone from eating testicles. I'm living in Google that because they've tested some testicles supplements. And through testing these testicle supplements, they've found trace amounts of what would show up in a drug test as taking oral testosterone.

Right. Well, Rocky Mountain oysters was always like a big thing. The Cowboys would eat whenever they would castrate. Bulls. Yep. Yep. Turn them in the steers. It's good if you had it. I have. It's good. It's great. It's so bad.

Yeah. I mean, it's not the best thing in the world. Right. You know, the devil. I'd rather have a rib eyes. Yeah. And he's better. Yeah. But it's edible.

Wow. This is not bad. Yeah. It's not nasty. Right. It's just like it's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's um, you see anything about that?

Oh, no, I understand. I was going to tell you, Google, the whole package, Google Testosterone found in the whole package, desiccated testicle supplements. Because I think the whole package is one of those liver king supplements. Him and Paul Saladino, both were partners in one of these companies, whether it's ancestral supplements or the other one, where they sell, desiccated or dehydrated, liver and heart and kidneys. And I've taken their supplements, they're really excellent. But I think one of them, I think it's called the whole package, has been shown to contain some oral form of testosterone.

Yeah, but I mean, the actual testing of it, not from them, from someone else.

Yeah, Jamie actually, he actually sent it to me. Hold on a second. I can send it to you. Now I'm remembering. Hang on one second. Yeah, it is. I mean, it is good in that regard. Yeah. Give me one second.

Why? Is your air drop on? There it goes.

Are you receiving that? Okay. So pull that up. So this is someone actually tested it. And this is what the results were that they had found. And this is from the whole package. So, and just seeing three, 17, die-one, 20 nanograms per gram. I don't know what. And 30 nanograms. Testosterone, 250 nanograms to per gram, 300 to 300 nanograms per gram. So, what it is is showing that there's some kind of androgens that are available, that are that people have detected in this supplement. Now, is that overly active? That's the question, like does it actually increase your testosterone by eating it? Sure. I have no idea. Yeah. I'm not the guy for that. But eating organs just the sheer nutrient content of like liver. Yeah. I know a lot of people who like my friend Derarchy eats one ounce of liver every day. Is it just raw? No, he cooks it. But it does it just for sheer just for health benefits.

Yeah, it's just it's undeniable that it's like a nutrient dense food. It's really a superfood.

Yeah. Well, you definitely can learn something from them. You've done a lot of diving and, you know, you do a lot of fishing. You can serve it all about mercury levels in fish and

And it's the apex ones, the ones that are the predators. You're the ones who get the higher fish content or the higher mercury content because they're eating all these other fish that spend a lot of time in the depths of the ocean where the heavy metal poisoning is. Is that the idea?

It's interesting you say that because I tested positive for arsenic from sardines.

I got a blood test in my doctor was like, you got arsenic in your blood. I was like, what's terrible? Yeah. And he goes, uh, he goes, it's not a lot. He goes, it's a very small amount. He goes, but what are you eating? And he goes, are you eating any sardines? I go, yeah, a lot. I eat like three cans a day. I was eating a lot. I was eating a lot. It is a lot. Young and single and stupid. And he said don't do that. He said let's do it again in a couple of months. Just cut that out of your diet cut it out of my diet went back nothing.

They spend a lot of time in the low depths of the ocean where a lot of that stuff accumulates. Yeah.

yeah there's been some i don't understand how i don't understand how it's connected but yeah how much time is there left in the ocean for these fish if you think about how quickly we want to talk about how we wiped out woolly mammoths and we wiped out yes and We are wiping out fish at a fucking staggering rate.

But we'd have to get all the countries on board. Yeah. That means in past years all the fishermen would starve.

Is it real? It is. Yeah. The majority of the planet.

So fuck, there's just so many goddamn people and so much need. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if people were forced to gather their own food and hunt for their own food, and you know, you had like a few months out of the year that all you did was hunt and fish, and then you stored it all and stockpiled it. You know, we would have a completely different thought about like where food comes from. 100%. But the fact that you could just pull in a jack in the box, get a burger or piece of cow, no profit. Yeah.

Yeah, we're very disconnected. It's just such a new thing, too, that human beings live in these massive population centers like Los Angeles and New York and are so removed from the process of where their food comes from.

No, and there's some people if they're not eating fish and meat, they don't understand what monochrop agriculture is doing to the earth.

You found one, so they were thought to be extinct.

Not a home of Dracula monkey.

Yeah. What a cool looking monkey.

Rare monkey discovered in Borneo.

And palm oil is used for everything.

It is devastating to see and so all that wildlife all that habitat is all destroyed for this monochrome.

It's literally like there's maybe 30% left.

And the night in the jungle is just definite.

Yeah, no, I can't either. Yeah. I don't like hearing that shit. Well, for still alive, it's your book. It's available now. Did you do the audio version of it? I did. Did you narrate it? I did. Yeah.

Happy. I love one an author reads their own book. It's really depressing when they hire some actor to read it when you know they're disconnected from the subject matter. You, especially you helped me write that.

Well, I'm glad you did, Ben. I'm glad you're thinking along those ways, because I think if you did a show and just did it on YouTube or did it on some other platform. Yeah. I mean, you probably have way more views even than you're getting off of the networks, because people just aren't watching TV. They're not used to. People are really fascinated by the internet. They're really, they're watching things in their phones. They're watching Apple TV and Netflix. And that's where people are getting, they're getting it from the internet.

Is it your YouTube channel? Yes, the channel itself. There it is. Right there. Okay. Wild Times pod on YouTube. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited you doing that. Thank you very much being here. Go get the book folks. It's out now. Thanks.

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