Transcript for #871 - Brendan Schaub

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00:07 - 00:08

Ah, and alive.

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00:08 - 00:11

Ooh, take a sip of that delicious coffee.

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00:11 - 00:14

Yeah, the best coffee, sir. Oh, is that an abacimite fight club? Oh, it sure is.

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Oh, wow. You guys just have it on here.

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00:16 - 00:18

You guys have the same one as this caveman coffee?

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Yeah, it takes going, who hooked me up with this. Oh, there you go.

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00:21 - 00:25

There you go. Same up. We need to redo those.

SPEAKER_02

00:25 - 00:32

So did you hear there were some fights this weekend? I mean, I breeze by my saw the highlights. I thought you brought me on the talk politics.

SPEAKER_01

00:32 - 00:50

Let's try and put stuff. Can we get into that? Let's talk about just fine. Yeah, nobody nobody nobody's talking about politics these days. Thank God, so an important thing we should bring it up because it's not like I went on a few celebrities Twitter pages and I was like, oh, they're freaking out. They're not just freaking out. They won't shut the fuck up about it.

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00:50 - 00:52

Oh, it's not stop.

SPEAKER_01

00:52 - 01:08

None stop. And half of it is almost like I think like they want everyone to know that they're upset. They want everyone to know that they're one of the upset people. They're not one of the make America great again people.

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01:08 - 01:13

They promote that they're upset like I promote a live show. They want people to know whether they're at where they stand on it.

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01:13 - 01:18

This is one female comic. I go to her page every now and then. I don't know what it looked like. I didn't say it.

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01:18 - 01:39

And I just go Jesus Christ. Me too. I almost want to set her down just like you got a chill out. I just relax. You got a chill out. Well, do you see what is happening with Amy Schumer? She's so anti Trump. But you can't make it that part of the act. Like people playing tickets and people just like walking out. Yeah. But she keeps harping on it.

SPEAKER_01

01:39 - 01:50

Well, you know, there's two ways to look at it. There's one way that people say they have a voice. And if they have a voice, it needs to get, you know, they need to use that voice to get the word out.

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01:50 - 01:51

Not an comedy show, though.

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01:51 - 01:52

Yeah. That's a lot.

SPEAKER_01

01:54 - 02:13

Right, but make me laugh. She would call herself a bitch. Yeah, you know I'm saying this back in the day she would. Yeah, I mean she's like way more She's way more like political and feminist now than ever before if you go back to the old Amy Schumer that was on like OPEN Anthony she wasn't into that at all she was she was like one of the guys that was like her selling point

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02:13 - 02:20

Maybe she got a little older and she's like, and I want to talk about different stuff. But that's not the short platform for it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

02:20 - 03:00

Right. Well, if it is, you've got to be really funny. Like if you have like an anti Donald Trump joke, that's fine. For sure. But it's got to be funny. It's got to be just, there's no room for that. Like it used to be that comics could have like these rants where they made like really important points inside of fun and it wouldn't be funny and people kind of accepted it. But that's what a podcast is for. Sure. This is a new world. We live in a new world. I go to an action movie. I don't go to an action movie to get a massage. You call a sudden when you're in the action movie someone comes over a massage. Do you relax? Do you need to relax? You need to be less tense because you're really concerned about this. Action film is really not relevant.

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03:00 - 03:22

What's like watching a porn? I don't give a shit about the story. I fast through. You know what I'm saying? I fast forward to the good stuff man. So I need some people do like the story. They want these people to be in love before they want them to be escaping bad relationship I don't know I'm just saying there's a place in time for it like do you see Dave Chappelle inside my life.

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03:22 - 03:25

Yeah, that was Mark. That was a great funny time for it.

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03:25 - 03:29

Yeah, but he's also supportive is brilliant.

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03:29 - 04:26

He's a master He's a master. He's the best. And he's also a very sincere person. Like one of the things that is driving me crazy about a lot of this tweeting and craziness like I was in New York City for the fights and I mean my friend Cam Haynes went to the gym and the young Jamie was there too. But you weren't with us when we were stuck in the in the swarm of humans, which is me and Cam. We got to the gym, no problem. But on our way back, the protest had marched through the area that we walked through. And all of a sudden, we couldn't go anywhere. It was just jammed with people. So you're literally shoulder to shoulder with people. Like, just everybody's touching everybody. They're just, you had to deal with it. There was nothing to do with it. Which is one of the reasons why I've found you pack a so important folks, because you keep your money in your front. Okay, nobody's pickpocketed. You know what I can do? They've been ripped up. My shirt goes over that sentence. I'm gonna know. I'm gonna mention it to get that it's gonna take some work because pick packets do go to those things. You need to be aware if you're one of those super lefties. It looks like going down straight.

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04:26 - 04:28

You should check.

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04:28 - 04:41

So while we're walking this one guy with this perfectly manicured beard, he had a really nice like wool jacket on. He was obviously like a wealthy liberal character and he's screaming out.

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04:41 - 04:48

I mean, screaming in my fucking ear, he's right here. He's touching me. He's touching me with the shoulders.

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04:48 - 04:53

You don't know Trump, KKK, racist sexist, anti-KKK.

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04:53 - 04:56

And he wouldn't stop. He wouldn't stop.

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04:56 - 05:20

And part of me wanted to go, hey man, could you just like, if you want to go in the protest, the protest is in the street. Like you're on the sidewalk. This isn't the protest. This is a lie, sir. This is some non-committal shit you're doing here. Like if you want to pee out in, you'll be all in. But he's like doing drive-by's. He's like a walk-by screaming protest. But does it really do anything? He saw black eye in the distance. I swear to guy, he starts going.

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05:20 - 05:22

Black lives matter. Black lives matter.

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05:22 - 05:24

Yes, he did. Hell, he was so obvious.

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05:24 - 05:26

He's just trying to get everybody to join him.

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05:26 - 05:33

What my friend Michael Sherman likes to call virtue signaling. That's what it does. He's peacocking his virtue.

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And just trying to just try to get everybody jump on the road.

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05:39 - 06:03

There was a woman with a sign that said, rape Melania. Jesus. Yeah, and apparently that's right. They're about writing that thing out. Crazy. Here we go. It's a hashtag on Twitter now. Here's why it's crazy. Here's what's crazy. Twitter allows that hashtag Twitter doesn't allow Hillary for prison. What? Check that. Make sure that's correct. Because that's what I've been reading.

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06:03 - 06:05

Jamie knows that he's buying it.

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06:06 - 06:31

Will you hashtag Hillary for prison? Look if there's any tweets. And then hashtag that's free. There's pictures of people with those signs. I don't think it's just one person, and there's a bunch of people who used it, who call themselves like, as if somehow or another, if Donald Trump is a misogynist, somehow or another, the way to get him back is to rape his wife, or even to suggest raping his wife.

SPEAKER_02

06:31 - 06:39

What kind of messages are you spreading if you're posting that in your, you're in a protest, you're making a sign of that fucking scary. What does this say?

SPEAKER_04

06:39 - 06:42

This is Hillary for prison, I searched, and it was a lot of stuff that pops up.

SPEAKER_01

06:43 - 06:55

Okay, um, well, they might be in it since unless that's maybe they banned it before. No, maybe this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and I just read some nonsense. Maybe I just read some nonsense. I got to read some nonsense.

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06:55 - 07:00

But all of it's nonsense. All of it is just bullshit. Well, it's just bullshit.

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07:00 - 07:02

There was so many so many angry angry people

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And while I'm in celebrities, we're like, if Trump wins, I'm out of here. You could go and know where.

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07:09 - 07:59

Did you see the fucking signs that people have made, some artist made for, you know, those benches for bus station benches where they have the billboard in the back of it for real estate sales? Yeah. It's a real estate sale and it's all these people who said they're going to leave the country. It's their face like one of them share. It's awesome. I think Amy Schumer's got one of them too. Everyone says that you're not doing shit. Yeah, I'm going in. Let me said she was going to move to Spain. But she's a fucking comedian. She's like, I guess I'm wearing Spanish. You know, that's just like what a comedian would say. You know, people freak out. People are how mad. But what she said is like, you know, you're just as disgusting as the people who voted. The people who actually expect me to move or just as disgusting as the people who voted for that anti-gay woman, hate or whatever, whatever, whatever, she called them. But series of insults.

SPEAKER_02

08:00 - 08:08

She's just so upset and then, obviously, she's performing, she's doing theaters, or in stadiums, even. Big ass place. Big ass reason. So she's, yeah, aren't us.

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08:08 - 08:11

I mean, she's carried it as she's building.

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08:11 - 08:14

Having to kill any election day sale.

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08:14 - 08:37

Meanwhile, here's what you need to understand if you don't agree by the way. If you do want to move to Canada, when you move to Canada, you realize that Canada has a very similar immigration policy to what Donald Trump is proposing. It's very strict. It's incredibly difficult to immigrate to Canada. You don't just do it like that. You don't just go over there and also and you live there. I mean, maybe for Amy's show when you got some cash.

SPEAKER_02

08:38 - 08:42

Maybe it's still strict people realize how strict it is. It's fucking strict. Yeah, I'm just gonna go to can it.

SPEAKER_01

08:42 - 09:00

No, you know, it's it's essentially very similar to what Donald Trump is proposing. Like, here's the thing about Canada and I love Canada. By the way, I'm a huge fan. They're like some of my favorite people in the world. When you go to Canada, if you have a drunk driving thing on your record, you can't get in. They fucking send you home. Habits all the time.

SPEAKER_02

09:01 - 09:14

Yeah, it's a bit deal with the UFC too with American fighters if you have anything you do the chance to begin up there again cleared when the customs is strict as shit yeah Kevin James got into you know just a standard fist fight once

SPEAKER_01

09:15 - 10:34

when he was younger. And I believe he was arrested, but no charges were filed and was all dropped. It was one of those, you know, there's a brawl and he was a part of it and he got arrested with a couple of other people. No big deal. There's something a young guy did. He's up there to fucking do just for laughs and they flag him for it. Turn them around. Yeah. Eddie Bravo went up there. Eddie Bravo legally was carrying a gun legally. Well, because he was, no, no, what's going to mean? He was working for a cast checking business. This is way back in the day before I even met him. And Eddie used to have to carry around large sums of cash. And he had a license to carry a pistol because of that. So he gets pulled over for like speeding or something. and he tells the cop, he goes, hey man, just so you know, I work for a check, check cash in company and I carry large sums of cash and I have a pistol and it's loaded and it's in the car. And the guy goes, okay, we'll step out of the car, give me all your paperwork and this down. I'm gonna have to handcuff you while we check this out. So they check it out, they go, yep, you're all good, they let them go. So nothing, right? No charges, nothing. They're just carrying the pistol legally. Every time he goes to Canada, it comes up, damn. Dude, he got so bad, then we would go to Canada, I would ditch him. I would just stand there and I didn't want to get pulled into immigration if I said I was we'll know if I said I was with him they pull me into immigration too. I got stuck there. Dude, I got stuck there for a fucking hour and a half once.

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10:34 - 10:40

They might not let his ass in because the conspiracies are like we just can't. Tower just can't serve.

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Tower just can't serve.

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10:40 - 10:52

Tower just can't. At our live shows we keep getting. So do you and Eddie hate each other? How's it work? And then I'll get out there. I love Eddie and then someone started literally a chant tower seven times.

SPEAKER_00

10:53 - 11:05

It's so weird. Did you see that fucking meme with Tony Ferguson and Tony Ferguson beat Houghfield, those aren't Joe's Eddie Bravo's saying something. It's like when your boy just wins his fight, but you have some new information about tower seven.

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11:05 - 11:10

And he's like, he's all up in his eyes. who ever made that as brilliant.

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There it is.

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11:14 - 11:22

He's my brother. Anybody think I don't love Eddie, you're crazy. I agree. Whatever nutty things that he believes that I don't believe, I don't give a fuck. I love that.

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11:22 - 11:35

No, yeah, I still love him too. He's my friend. He's just batshit crazy in his kind of way. I still like that flavor that he's delivering. You know what's that shit? He's so interesting. He loves it. He was tax nonstop about it.

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11:35 - 11:36

Yeah, he sounds as group tax.

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11:36 - 11:50

Yes, do you see the latest one he's putting on Twitter about some up? It's grainy footage that looks like it was invented back when the fucking wheel was invented. It's grainy footage of some guy talking about some sex parties. They used to have what children used to

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11:50 - 11:59

Oh yeah, bro, Hillary's not Satan. You don't really think she's Satan? I don't, man. I find it hard to believe and he'll latch out at me. I'm sorry.

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11:59 - 12:28

Say, Tannit Colts. When you see shit like eyes wide shut though, don't you want to know like you hear about this skull and bone stuff? These do it Yale. Yeah, it's just real. Yeah, that is real. It's like, I wonder if you grow up in the Hamptons or you live in like one of those crazy Connecticut towns where all those super billionaire hedge fund characters live and all their kids go to the private schools that get sent to these big fucking universities and you get pledged to a fraternity because your dad was in it and you know, there's a lot of that shit going on.

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12:28 - 12:30

Yeah, they're called the skulls, right?

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12:30 - 12:35

That's like the leaps. That's just the skulls. That might be a skulls.

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12:35 - 12:43

Yeah, more maybe they would never invite us into that stuff. They're like they're they just won't shut the fuck up. No, we tell them what each thing they're shaddy kathies.

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12:43 - 12:43

Yeah.

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12:43 - 12:47

He told them anything. They just blasted on their shows. Yeah, we can't have them on there.

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12:47 - 12:58

We would never know. Yeah, there's no anybody thinks we're getting in on the loom party Just I could accuse of that so much because of the flat earth people the flat earth people believe I'm I'm a page show. I know I get it.

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12:58 - 13:10

Oh, oh, you're just gonna leave the UFC and step right into that You don't think that's the illuminating working you don't think he's part of it Rogan drag them into it. Yeah, man. You don't think I would chat away on my show about it

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13:10 - 13:45

It would be hilarious if there really was a sort of giant organization that was paying people off to lie about the earth being flat. That would be amazing. If we were able to keep it that hush hush, if the world was flat, this whole time, and all these people that claim to be flying around it in a big circle, like people have navigated the globe in a plane, they've flown over it in a plane. They're all in on it. They're all getting to everyone's in it. We go over their house for our remains to go. Everybody's party and like would you get on this money shut the fuck up dude shut up just from just from a boat going around the world.

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13:45 - 13:45

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01

13:45 - 13:55

It's all flat earth money. Flat earth denial money, huge This is the world that he probably lives in. He hasn't quite gone flat earth. Flat earth pulls him back.

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13:55 - 13:57

They started messing with it a little bit.

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13:57 - 13:59

He did. He did. But he went dinosaurs aren't real.

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Dinosaurs aren't real. And the moon is fake. We've never been to the moon.

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Well, not only that all the footage of NASA, all the NASA footage is fake.

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14:06 - 14:13

That's every shit, and then the bands, all the bands like the Beatles. Oh yeah, they're made by the CIA.

SPEAKER_01

14:13 - 14:26

Right, right up here to ping your candy. The thing is, though, if you know Eddie and he's a fun dude, and half of this stuff is because he enjoys it. He enjoys looking at conspiracies just like, and look, some of them are true, right? True. That's the problem.

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14:26 - 14:32

That's the real problem. That's the real problem. The real problem are true, so he has an argument on some stuff. But it's hard.

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14:33 - 14:53

He's so bald deep in it conspiracies that it's hard for him to Yeah, it's like what's now a bald deep that he's bent over Close pin and his his like his ankles are in yeah, he's like his body. What is this? That's a nice tower be ashamed of someone knocked it out. Is this recently?

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14:53 - 14:56

He's probably listening to us.

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14:56 - 14:59

He's so he's so funny.

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He's so crazy

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But the thing to, he's passionate about it. So people think when him and I discuss it or he needs to discuss it, you know, and he's so passionate, he's not arguing with, he's just like, like, if you really think something's true, you're like, come on man, that's Eddie.

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15:17 - 15:53

Well, here's my take on a lot of this shit. There's not that much time. You don't have much time. You have 24 hours in the day and you've got to sleep for 8. So that's not a lot of time for me. And if I go down these goddamn fucking rabbit holes that shit will take forever, I've done it with legitimate things. I've done it with, you know, like archeological fucking discoveries where I'll just start reading up on some crazy temple that they found in Cambodia. I'm two and a half hours later, I'm, you know, researching this. I'm like, I gotta shit to do. I got shit to do. It's like for me to do that about ghosts.

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15:55 - 16:18

That's basically what some of these conspiracy theories are. I mean, what am I going to do? When we find someone that no one else is found, you know what I'm saying? I can fucking make this cage for natural treasure. Like, I'm not going to go on this weird, escapade finding someone no one else knows. And I can just ask Eddie, because he is a fucking double black belt conspiracy theory. Can make sure you watch YouTube videos, though.

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16:19 - 16:52

Yeah, I'll try to get us into one during the last fight companion. He tried to put one on. Dude, it's only five minutes. I can't. I can't. I can't do it. I don't have it in me. I don't have it in me. I forget what that one was about. Something about money or something. Or tower set. He loves it. He loves us. He loves us. It's a sport to him. But you know, it's what he's into. Yeah. I don't have time anymore. That in people, oh, he fucking told. No, bro, fucking told. So no, no, sir. No. If you solve the Kennedy assassination, it will not help your life.

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16:52 - 17:00

But it's also not in the internet. Hey, tell you that it's probably not in some chat room, you know, it might be on YouTube. You just got to find the video. You just got to go down deep enough.

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17:00 - 17:04

You're going to about 600 views so far when we can get it out there.

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17:06 - 17:08

Someone sent me a fucking three hour one.

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17:08 - 17:30

Just two days ago. Well, it's about 10 in the assassination one. I'm like, I can't simply do it anymore. Can't do it. And if they do figure it out, it would be interesting. But I don't see how they could. I think they're never gonna get past where they're at right now. There's like some evidence. There's some non-evidence. There's some speculation. There's some, there's that, there's a pruder footage. There's some shit.

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17:30 - 17:35

But is there any expert like actually open the case back up? Like, do they really give a shit? Can't.

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17:35 - 17:38

There's not enough evidence right now, like current physical evidence.

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Yeah, so it's not happening. It's over.

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17:41 - 17:43

Yeah, they wouldn't do it anyway, because who are you going to try?

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17:43 - 17:49

But also everyone gets a shit. He's dead. Yeah, everyone's dead. Yeah, what are you going to do? Yeah, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01

17:49 - 18:14

All right, it still doesn't bring him back. It's also fucking weird. Because we know the government does a bunch of fucked up things. We know they do, but it's spending time trying to figure it out. That's what I was thinking when I saw Trump sitting next to Obama. I wonder if Obama told him how much work he has to actually do. That's why he looks so fucked up. Because Trump was sitting next to Obama and he was just, he looked like Jesus Christ. He looked like, like, he was like, what?

SPEAKER_02

18:14 - 18:23

I think it hit, it hit him right. Turn that meeting. I thought I was like, this is my daily life. Here you go, and he's like, holy. Look at him.

SPEAKER_00

18:23 - 18:28

This is what it says. Trump reportedly surprised at scope of new presidential duties.

SPEAKER_01

18:28 - 18:36

Surprise. It's scope. Goddamn. Well, it's like you have a hundred jobs. This is does a reason why they're age so hard.

SPEAKER_02

18:36 - 18:49

It shouldn't be one mansion of very responsible for it. I mean, yeah, I think you've spoke about it before. We'd have one guy with that much power and to have all that on his pressure should be a committee of just straight geniuses. Yeah. That figuring it out.

SPEAKER_01

18:49 - 19:15

Well, man, if you want to look at the bright cloud, If there's any bright cloud about Donald Trump being an office, is that he doesn't, he's an outsider, a complete outsider. He's been a politics guy. And so we'll get to see just by watching them like sort of do get out what shape they take. You know, we'll get to see like what, what's, what's, we'll get a better view of the mechanism behind the machine than the Hillary Clinton was an office.

SPEAKER_02

19:15 - 19:29

Don't you think with, I think people are gonna be surprised that how little power he's actually, the president actually has. because they think he's going to do all this crazy stuff and then people are making a bunch of them work like that. You have to jump through all these holes in the house of Lee State, all the stuff.

SPEAKER_01

19:29 - 19:41

Yeah. Well, that's what's going to be interesting, too, is that here I'm talking, complaining about that and seeing what happens. Yep. And it's going to be interesting. We've got a culture battle going on right now, too. Like all those people marching down the street, screaming, not my president. Not my president.

SPEAKER_02

19:41 - 19:44

Well, he is. He is though. I hate to tell you guys. He is.

SPEAKER_01

19:44 - 19:49

Well, he's the, you know, you don't like get, you don't, the president doesn't become yours. So it's not yours.

SPEAKER_02

19:49 - 19:51

But if you let me United States though, he's the president of the United States.

SPEAKER_01

19:51 - 20:04

So look at me. Do you say my president? Do you say my president? Do you say my president? I do. You do? No, I don't. My president. I show up though, president. Yeah, he's the president. Yeah, not my president. And there's an whole new world of my own.

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20:04 - 20:04

It is weird.

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20:05 - 20:06

Yeah.

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20:06 - 20:22

What? I don't know, man. It's probably, look, I think this is what I've been saying. We go like this and we go like that. We go right and we go left. And this is how people always have. They go back and forth. The country goes back and forth. Try it one way we don't like it. They said he was supposed to be at UFC 205. Well, the sun was there.

SPEAKER_02

20:23 - 20:27

Which one? Donald Trump Jr. God, they're not gonna win any awards for good luck.

SPEAKER_01

20:27 - 20:28

So they're not bad looking, right?

SPEAKER_02

20:28 - 20:31

Really? Well, with the youngest youngest one or the one who's like killing it.

SPEAKER_01

20:31 - 20:45

There's one who's ballin'. The one who's got the hair slick back. Darker hair? Hmm. What I'd have to see him. He's a nice dude. Is it was he cool? I've been actually, I knew him from a while ago. He's friends with the friend of mine. Oh really?

SPEAKER_02

20:45 - 20:52

Yeah. So that the family's gonna have to take over his other business adventures while he's president. How about that?

SPEAKER_01

20:52 - 20:56

A whole thing is so crazy. So weird. It's so crazy. Looking at him up there. It's so crazy.

SPEAKER_02

20:56 - 21:09

Then how many of them are going to live in the White House? Do they know? I don't know. They know weird. Yeah. Like, could all of them live if they wanted? Is there like a cap? Like, dude, you can only bring two. You can't be up in it. Do you know what I fucking love?

SPEAKER_01

21:09 - 21:15

Who's that sheriff? That black sheriff that was the cowboy hat everywhere? Sheriff, uh, the houses got down there.

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21:15 - 21:20

The one out of Dallas? I think he is. We should be about the same dude.

SPEAKER_01

21:21 - 21:59

He's always, yes, yes, something Clark is his name Clark. He's a cute retired. Did he? Well, he's retired from like, fuck news. Dude's always on. What is it? David Clark is named David Clark, bro. Sheriff, David Clark. Eric Holder is the attorney general, you fuck. You're not American. Very American. How do you not know that? You don't know who air-colders. I don't dare you. I like to do that when I know someone or other people don't know. How the fuck do you not know that, bro? Yeah, he's a fucking character.

SPEAKER_02

21:59 - 22:06

I see where's the cowboy hat in honor of his family members of Dallas Cowboy. So he wears the Dallas Cowboy hat everywhere.

SPEAKER_01

22:06 - 22:30

Right? He wears the hat. Actual Cowboy hat. That's it. There's a crazy picture that he posted of Donald Trump winning the Ellis Island Award in 1989. Standing next to Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. Damn. It was award for contributing to the conditions of inner city black youths, standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. I don't want to talk about that.

SPEAKER_02

22:31 - 22:44

Yeah, well, it doesn't help Trump is like the head of KK it was like we got we we basically got him in there like we support them We're the ones that were the reason got in here to come out. I'm like I don't I'm not cool with that KKK stuff man like that's not me

SPEAKER_01

22:50 - 22:54

I can't catch you though. I wanted to tell him man. Go on to the street, but I was worried.

SPEAKER_00

22:54 - 22:59

I was doing a key work in the street. And if I said it, it'd be like, you fucking racist. Put it to your Trump supporter.

SPEAKER_01

22:59 - 23:02

Like you saw his vitriol was.

SPEAKER_02

23:02 - 23:06

And then they're going to jump all up on you. And then someone's like, Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_01

23:06 - 23:11

No, it's just to go to the, come on man. Go over there. Go over there, man. Go over there. Everybody's actually protesting.

SPEAKER_02

23:12 - 23:18

Don't make me get camhains get his fucking bone out and start fucking, murking people. It wouldn't be a drop-up, son.

SPEAKER_01

23:18 - 23:23

There was no room to draw. It was just, it was so crazy how many people were there. It was just strange.

SPEAKER_02

23:23 - 23:26

Just a protest thousands of people. It's busy as it is.

SPEAKER_01

23:26 - 23:52

But it's, you know, the cops broke it up, like cops were screaming in shit. So it was like that being there at the weekends with the biggest fights in history. All of it was just so crazy. It was a that was a nutty scene man being there in the wands felt surreal It felt really like finally it's it happened Yeah, it was like it was crazy like the weight of the event was thick in the air It had this feel to it. It was very different than any other show we'd ever put together

SPEAKER_02

23:53 - 23:59

I wish I was that. That's the one show I wish I was that because it's so special. It's gonna be tough to beat that, but it'll never be.

SPEAKER_01

23:59 - 24:08

I mean, you'll have big giant events for sure, but it'll never be like that because that was the last block of corruption. Correct. That was standing in front of the UFC, getting into New York.

SPEAKER_02

24:08 - 24:39

I got a little worried when I saw, where was I? I was in Atlanta doing live show by Saul on the Twitter, like the crazy press conference with Connor doing that stuff. I'm like, yeah, I'm not. And it was kind of weird. I was like, well, it seems a little gimmicky blah blah blah. And then the way and he looked a little more serious. And then the night of the fight, I was like, I mean, you couldn't have written a better show. I mean, the fight, the night, the way everything happened, it was amazing, man. By the way, far, the best UFC I've ever seen. It was hard.

SPEAKER_01

24:39 - 24:56

The main event was almost, it was almost bizarre. It's almost bizarre how good corners. Right? Almost bizarre the way he picked apart Eddie Alvarez. Almost bizarre. Like magical. That's almost the word I want to use. Correct. Like he touches my other fuckers with that left hand.

SPEAKER_02

24:57 - 25:24

Have you ever seen Eddie Alvers just like they didn't even look like they were in the same planet like one guy like look like he was from Mars the other guy looked like he was just a normal dude trying to figure it out but it looked like Eddie the moment he got hit was like what the fuck could see on his face he was like holy but Jesus what am I doing here and they goes well alright he's not very good at wrestling let me try this wrestling and kind of like that was your shot all bro you're in for a long night. I think Eddie realized like holy fuck.

SPEAKER_01

25:24 - 25:34

Oh, he's already touched up a little bit when he finally went in for a shot and I just think Connor knew then also that he had him. And how calm was he? Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02

25:34 - 26:31

Just calm upright and just waiting. And then the accuracy of that combo that finally finished Eddie, that's what I think makes Connor show specials. His accuracy when he throws punches. Eddie's moving as he's laying in the stuff I've never seen anything like like you said it was straight up magic on like all right well we've never seen a guy like this we just haven't I don't know if we ever well either it's really interesting too and I was interviewing him it's like you've got to have some attributes if you want to beat me you've got to be tall you've got to be big give me these guys my size but what he's doing though it it's so He's a once in a lifetime guy because he's setting the ceiling like there's no there's no boundaries for him like he's just like I'll fight Nate at 70 I'll 45 sure I'm Merk all dough in 13 seconds and I'll come to 55 like we've never seen this kind of creativity and we've also never seen the UFC allow someone to do this either Yeah, well, he's just such a unique personality it's undeniable but also his style in a lot of ways

SPEAKER_01

26:32 - 27:03

He kind of does a lot of like what Wonderboy does, but with less kicks. Like he throws kicks to the body, he'll throw like some front kicks. I mean, you know, like maybe 70% as many kicks. Wonderboy's a little more kick heavy, but it's that sideways style. And he's, but here I think he does it better. Like there's maybe something about the focus of the shots that he's landing, the precision of them. because Wonderboy very rarely touches somebody up like that with a punch. She just doesn't have that kind of power.

SPEAKER_02

27:03 - 27:16

Yeah, you're right. I think Wonderboy is better at surprising guys with his kicks and his angles, but Connor sets it up and he's landing combos. Yeah. That are all so precise in this power. Like he's touching dudes and you can see it on their face.

SPEAKER_00

27:16 - 27:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

27:16 - 27:19

He touched Eddie and Eddie's like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01

27:19 - 27:37

Well not only dad, he's like he's hitting him in a surprise way and he's not telegraphing in at all. His ability to go from bouncing around to launching that shot is so quick. It's so precise and it's so focused and there's no fat in his movements.

SPEAKER_02

27:38 - 28:01

Yeah, and they said there's going to be a big announcement afterwards. And I'll see his girls pregnant, which, I mean, it's a personal big announcement for him. But I think he says he's going to take time off and he wants a piece of the pie. He wants a piece of WME and what, you know, what they're doing now, which is hilarious, right? I love it. Me too. I love it. And he's the first fighter ever that can talk like this. How old is he? Was kind of 26. Maybe 27, 26.

SPEAKER_01

28:07 - 28:15

I gotta think 28. I think he's a smart guy, too. I mean, I would hope at least. I don't see him fighting deep into his 30s.

SPEAKER_02

28:15 - 28:37

No, especially the way he talks because he goes, now that I have a kid, I know what I bring in the table. I won't be set financially for the rest of my life. You guys want me to fight again? Yeah, I mean, you need to be set for the rest of my life. I want to I want to part of this pie and he's his next fight and it's going to be such a fight is with WME. It's not with anyone out there. If you if you think he's fighting first, then it could be next. You're batshit crazy. That's not happening for a very long time.

SPEAKER_01

28:37 - 28:39

Maybe maybe they're working out.

SPEAKER_02

28:39 - 28:59

I don't think so. I think the next slide again. I don't know this just me going off whatever the hell I think, Joe, but I think his next fight would be Nate for the belt at 55 because if you think if you like could be even Tony they're both deserving and we're MMA pierced. We're bald deep in MMA. We love it and one of those guys deserves it as far as numbers in a big paper view. It would have to be Nate.

SPEAKER_04

28:59 - 29:00

Do you really think they would do Nate again?

SPEAKER_02

29:01 - 29:07

100% I don't think Nate or Conno will fight unless it's if it's that's that if that has to be the matchups.

SPEAKER_01

29:07 - 29:12

I think Conno will fight someone out. I think Conno might even fight Woodley.

SPEAKER_02

29:12 - 29:17

You I think you'd see a fight with Woodley before C could be referred to. I think could be in first and we'll fight each other before anything else.

SPEAKER_01

29:17 - 29:21

You know fucking crazy would be if he decided to go up and fight Woodley.

SPEAKER_02

29:22 - 29:37

This it's so not obviously really has to get through Wonderboy again, but does he? It has to. You think so. Well Dana said that's the that's the it's a lot of shit. He says good points fighting for the title. It's good point. Yeah, me sure you're fighting for titles.

SPEAKER_01

29:37 - 29:40

Yeah, yeah, he does that all the time. I don't think that means anything.

SPEAKER_02

29:40 - 30:09

Thanks, good point. Yeah. I'm just going based off what your boy said. He was like, that's the next rematch. But I put it on me. Well, you're more your friend than mine. You're real. You've worked them forever. I like the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the thing. I just think, you know, you have a close relationship. So I say your boy, but he does say things and pulls back. Yeah. If, if, would be, and that's there. This is the thing I worry about though. Not you don't have to worry about something to think about. How much power are they gonna give Connor?

SPEAKER_01

30:09 - 30:15

45, 55, 70, just wraps up all the... Dude, do you know how crazy that would be if you did it though? I say let him do it. Let him try.

SPEAKER_02

30:15 - 30:16

The UFC's gonna, we can't.

SPEAKER_01

30:16 - 30:19

He's gonna take this bitch and say it. Woodley will say, let him try.

SPEAKER_02

30:19 - 30:24

Fuck yeah, Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try.

SPEAKER_01

30:24 - 30:34

Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley will say, let him try. Wood He's in there.

SPEAKER_02

30:34 - 30:40

Oh, they're one and two. Yeah. One and two right now. You think it's interchangeable? Yeah, yeah. It depends what you're into.

SPEAKER_01

30:40 - 30:53

But you'll well flies through the air. You'll well does backflips at the beginning of every fight. The beginning of every fight. He goes into the audience or he goes into the cage and he does backhand springs and literally launches himself through the air and lands on his feet.

SPEAKER_02

30:53 - 30:56

Like it's the Olympics. Yeah. And it's a solid landing. And he's 200 pounds.

SPEAKER_01

30:56 - 31:01

Correct. So. And he's flying flying. He's the freakyest freaky landscapes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

31:02 - 31:11

Yeah Jesus my go peace being hello you I love your Michael you do that to me.

SPEAKER_00

31:11 - 31:16

I love you So many say help him for this.

SPEAKER_02

31:16 - 31:17

Well, this is Mark

SPEAKER_00

31:17 - 31:19

change a word.

SPEAKER_02

31:19 - 31:36

No, he lost so much. He lost so much fan support when he said, uh, for, for, was he, say, for the gay, we, we thought he said gay Jesus, but he said, don't forget Jesus. But his broken English was so bad. People went bad on him so fast. They did. And then he kept calling, biz being boy. Yeah, I'm going boy.

SPEAKER_00

31:36 - 31:37

Well, it's okay.

SPEAKER_01

31:37 - 31:43

Because I like that. He's allowed. If biz being good at the hand, we got some shit on our hands.

SPEAKER_02

31:43 - 31:45

I cannot say that to a man of color.

SPEAKER_03

31:46 - 31:50

Oh, he does not fight.

SPEAKER_02

31:50 - 32:02

He's so scary. Poor Wydenman in New York, hometown, needed to win bad. They only get no love in New York and then just fucking knee from Cuba just to your dome.

SPEAKER_01

32:02 - 32:20

Just flew through the air. And as he hit him, like he was flying over him afterwards. But you know, that was insanely impressive. But you know what was almost as impressive as the way he took Wyden's back. He tripped them, they tied up together. He trips wide men, throws them to the ground and then spins around behind him and takes his back.

SPEAKER_02

32:21 - 32:28

Like the trip, how about the world-class trip? I am. People ask this trip. That's world-class level trip. Why do I mean it's an absolute monster?

SPEAKER_01

32:28 - 32:57

He was just... He was throwing them around. He was showing them the difference between a wrestler from the Olympics, a guy who metled in every single world tournament he entered and built like an injured turtle. Oh, he's ridiculous. You know he has like a few's disc in his neck. He had a serious injury in his neck, just like Wyman has. But Wyman had a disectomy. Wyman had surgery. He did, so you'll have a big scar in the back of his neck. You could see it. It's like a big slice. It's all stitched up.

SPEAKER_02

32:57 - 32:59

Just like being rames from Pulp Fiction.

SPEAKER_01

33:00 - 33:16

very different but you know I'm saying the same sky black guy lights yeah it's some you know it's I've seen it before another guy's but spinal surgeries fucking no joke man I had I had wide men win that fight till then he won the first round but you thought he won the second round when you always throwing them around

SPEAKER_02

33:17 - 33:21

Uh, not winning, but I thought as the fight would go on, it would help wide men.

SPEAKER_01

33:21 - 33:44

I thought in the second round, you well started implementing his wrestling. I thought he was running away with it. And then, so everyone won, right? Yes. Yes. I thought it was one one. Yes, one one. But I thought it was like shocking how good his wrestling was in comparison. And we know the wide men. He doesn't show it. Yeah. Very rarely. But when he does, dudes go flying. I mean, he doesn't fly anymore. Cause you haven't fun.

SPEAKER_03

33:44 - 33:45

Having a good time.

SPEAKER_02

33:46 - 34:08

But first when he was talking stuff, the bisming, I'm like, God, that's a terrible fight for bisming. God, that's terrible. Five rounds, Bisming really doesn't initiate in that grappling and he has cardio for days. That's a tough fight to call. At first, I think that Romero's gonna fucking destroy Bisming. Not really, though, if you think about it, not really.

SPEAKER_01

34:08 - 34:46

Who knows what could happen? But Dan Henderson caught Bisming twice bad in their last title fight at 45 years old, or whatever it is. They caught him bad. And Dan Henderson, who is one of the most ruthless power strikers in the game, for sure, and bisming survived that. So that's good for bisming that was able to survive that. You know, you've got to think, you're all Romero doesn't just have a right hand. He flies. He literally launches himself at you. If he gets a hold of you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you go for a ride. Dan Henderson's a, a silver medalist in the Olympics as well. But it's different. It's different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

34:46 - 34:55

Especially Dan right now. What's Dan 48? I think he's 46 or 45. He's out there, either way. But Bromero's basically, you know, in his prime as the MMA fighter.

SPEAKER_01

34:55 - 35:20

Well, also there's like the range of motion. Yeah. Like Dan's almost like locked up. Some would say still. Yeah, he's got, but if he hits you, your fucksville. But he's like his range of motions, very limited, where he was, YOL is like a super athlete. He doesn't have any limitations in his range of motion. He's ridiculously flexible. He does like a half split before he fights. He's like down there, like stretching out. Sky's range of motions insane.

SPEAKER_02

35:20 - 35:50

Those knees and the flying knees, though, a lot of it, especially with wide mean came from wide mean going for that single leg. He's like, go for it against you. What happened? Yeah. And we're bisming doesn't entertain the grappling at all. That's true. That's true. And he stays on the outside. And he also has that beast of a coach. But right away, I was like, oh, God, that sucks. Because I love bisming. God, that's a bad fight for him. Now sitting on my, well, cardio, five rounds. If you can survive those first two, maybe three, dragon blade water. It's a fun fight. You never watch that bad.

SPEAKER_01

35:50 - 36:54

No, no. I mean, you can't it's hard to do MMA math, right? I mean, you style style matchups though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I was saying like bisping lost to Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy lost to UL, but Tim Kennedy was beating UL. Like that's another thing that UL's corner did this fight that was fucked up, man. They covered him with water. They threw water on him while he was sitting there resting. Wait for a second? Uh-huh. They put ice pack on him and they he poured water on himself. He poured it on his legs. He poured on his arms. He poured it all over him. And they wiped him down. I mean, he was trying to cool himself off, probably. Yeah. But you're not allowed to do that. And they they spent time wiping him down before the round started. So like they wiped him down in between the corner. But then the referee stopped it and made them wipe him down more. So he gets more rest. Yeah, look, for sure, they're aware when that happened with Tim Kennedy. When Tim Kennedy had him fucked up at the end of that second round, he absolutely and on purpose stayed on that stool long and then he was pulled.

SPEAKER_02

36:54 - 36:57

Some would say it was a smart move. Yes, obviously it ended up working in this favor.

SPEAKER_01

36:57 - 37:12

Smart if you're a cheater. If you're okay with cheating, but it is cheating. It's cheating. You have a lot of money. 100% in this cheating. 100% in that fight. And the referee should have probably stopped the fight, but I'm sure Big John didn't want the fight to end. Didn't want a cheater, everybody out of the fight. Just wanted to go to get back up.

SPEAKER_02

37:12 - 37:22

But then you cheat Tim Kennedy who the is done one person you don't want to cheat out of this and champ Tim is walking around like yelling while the dog going off his yeah, the whole thing was a mess.

SPEAKER_01

37:22 - 37:48

It was a mess. That was a cluster fuck of a moment, but it just shows you this guy has a massive amount of experience in international competition and wrestling. And there's like a lot of shit that goes on in wrestling, you know, where you have to take advantage of whatever you can to win. You know, and all these years of high-level competition on the international scene, he's probably got a bunch of little tricks like that. He could do to slow down the pace or give himself a little extra time.

SPEAKER_02

37:48 - 37:58

And what people all, what's 15, 20 seconds? 15-26 is for a guy like Yola Romero to replenish giant. I mean, you're talking giant.

SPEAKER_01

37:58 - 38:16

Night and day difference for a guy like that. And I think it was also 30 seconds for the Tim Kennedy fight for our member. Maybe 23. I feel like it was longer than that. I don't remember. I'm talking about stool gay. Yeah, stool gay. But also, there's a psychological issue because Kennedy now thinks the fight's over. Is it not over? Like it doesn't know where he's at.

SPEAKER_02

38:16 - 38:19

There's nothing worse than that when you think the fight's over. And like, uh, I don't know, back in man.

SPEAKER_01

38:21 - 38:34

That's always kills me about glory when they have that extra round. We go one more round. Imagine you get through three rounds of kickboxing and then finally you're drinking water. You got your arms up. Referee says blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02

38:34 - 38:39

And it's all a draw. Well, we'll think if you're Tyrone Woodley. Think if you're Woodley.

SPEAKER_01

38:39 - 38:43

Well, how about Bruce Buffer fucking it up? Where we what was going on?

SPEAKER_02

38:43 - 38:45

What was going on? Because you were like, whoa, everyone chill.

SPEAKER_01

38:45 - 39:53

You were like chill. Yeah. Well, here's what was going on. First of all, Bruce said it wrong. He, it was not a majority decision. It was a majority draw. Correct. But they probably wrote it down wrong for him. Look, New York does not do any MMA. They've never done MMA before. No, shit. First event, right? Well, they've never lost for a shot. Exactly. So they do this thing where they with tally up a scorecards. They give it to Bruce and I guess it's said majority decision tire and woodley. They read two judges quarter draw one judge scores it for Woodley and Woodley retains a title, but it's supposed to be majority draw. Yes That's what the majority of the people thought it was a draw. So it's a majority draw. So Bruce said it wrong. Whether they gave it to him wrong. I don't know. Real Steve Harvey moment. Yes. And then they, and then Tyron freaked out. And then the audience booed. The audience went crazy. And I said, dude, you still have your title. Just hold on. And I was, and they wanted Bruce to say it again. So Bruce says it again. I was going to say it again onto the microphone. Yeah. But they're like in Bruce insisted he get the mic and he says it again. So he says it again. And he, you know, he wanted to correct the mistake. So he says it again. And then I have to say that the audience is booing on my because this is the exact same score. Yes. It's the exact same score. It's just a wrong definition.

SPEAKER_02

39:53 - 40:16

Just red wrong. Yeah. That's all. And I think he was probably pretty accurate too. I think it was right. It's before it. I think maybe With 10 seconds left, I look at Brian. I went, I bet you anything. It's crazy and I even tweeted out before there's no, I think it's a draw. Brian, it was no championship match. I feel like it's a draw. I give that a 10 A and then I scored the other rounds. I forget how I scored. I think it's a draw.

SPEAKER_01

40:16 - 40:24

Some people didn't give Woodley a 10 A for the fourth round, because at the end of the round, Wonderboy was on top on punch and him. That's insane.

SPEAKER_00

40:24 - 40:25

Yeah, but I say bully beat them.

SPEAKER_01

40:25 - 40:46

If anything, if he didn't do that, if if Wonder Boy didn't get out and wasn't on top, it might be a 10-7. Because not only did he hurt him with big punches, then he almost choked the life out of him. I mean, he had him in a deep guillotine. And people were telling me that wasn't a good dude, dude. I mean, you are out of your fucking mind. You're insane.

SPEAKER_02

40:46 - 40:57

How about a guy as strong as Woodley? Let's say his positions a little off. He's out to the side. And what round is it? What round was that? Third round. Third round. So your cardio already.

SPEAKER_00

40:57 - 40:57

Fourth round.

SPEAKER_02

40:57 - 41:08

Fourth round. You already exhausted. And you have that hunts of me pound monster around your neck. He's not 170. No, he's every bit of what, probably 200.

SPEAKER_01

41:08 - 41:35

Round there. And by the way, he's a brown belt. He's a brown belt in jujitsu. Do you think Tyron Woodley does not choke people? You're fucking crazy. It was a very good choke. And I was amazed. Me too, man. One thing I was thinking was like, Wonderboy has a skinny ass net and tiny head. Yeah. Small head to me. And the small head thing is. That was when he had. Woodley said, Woodley said, well, I knew we got a little head. He was like, oh shit. I didn't even think about his head. I was thinking about the size of his neck. He was a slender neck.

SPEAKER_02

41:35 - 41:44

Yeah, tiny head. Isn't amazing. The human body can take up like how did his head not rip off? How did his neck not break? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

41:44 - 41:50

We'll do that if he won by broken neck. I guarantee you if you had that in the first round. He probably wouldn't be able to. I agree.

SPEAKER_02

41:50 - 41:53

But how tough is that here? Well, yeah, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01

41:53 - 41:54

Yeah, but what a story.

SPEAKER_02

41:54 - 42:16

Yeah, different story. How tough is Wonder Boy though? Ridiculous. And I, and this is, and I know Wonder Boy with the same manager, we've trained together a bunch. Love the guy. I've always, and this is just me, I've always questioned his toughness because he does come from a privileged family like they have this huge Taekwondo Academy of South Carolina and he has a great home life and his dad's his coach and his brothers are studs.

SPEAKER_01

42:16 - 42:21

Taekwondoers are just karate. Uh, I'm not sure. I think it's just karate. Is it just karate style?

SPEAKER_02

42:21 - 42:22

Yeah, you're you're probably right.

SPEAKER_01

42:22 - 42:23

One of those.

SPEAKER_02

42:23 - 42:57

So, but he has this huge school, you know, I'm saying very successful. Yeah. Been to dinners with his dad and the whole family like, God, this guy has everything going for him. So when I see that's like, you know, it's the cow bassist kids thing. Like, you know, the tough skin cow bass isn't going to do shit in the UFC. It's just that when they're privileged like that. So when the going gets rough, I've always kind of questioned one of boy and I've never seen it though because the Matt Brown fight You know, his last loss and it was back and forth. There's a scrap, like whatever. This fight man, I was watching with fans. I was standing up clapping. Like, what is going on right now, man? What's crazy? What's crazy talking about?

SPEAKER_01

42:57 - 43:08

It was crazy fight. And there's a lot interesting. First of all, how fucking hard is Tyron Woodley hit? Jesus Christ. God too. He has one of the best straight right hands in the business.

SPEAKER_02

43:08 - 43:11

And if it lands, I can't believe one of where he didn't get knocked out, unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01

43:11 - 43:18

Well, I mean, he's a guy who's fought in professional kickboxing. He has a 57-in-oh combined kickboxing record amateur in pro.

SPEAKER_02

43:18 - 43:22

I guarantee he didn't fight anyone that kickboxing circuit that punches his hardest honor with me.

SPEAKER_01

43:22 - 43:29

And now with four ounce clubs. He'll exactly, he can punch faster with those little gloves on and it hurts more when it lands.

SPEAKER_02

43:29 - 44:19

So let's say Dana does do the rematch. They don't do Conner Woodley. And they do do the rematch us thinking about it. Three titles. Three titles. But it focused me third time. But Woodley was a slight underdog. And if you listen to Duke Roof as he was talking about their game plan, I think your time on the post fight press conference. They're a game plan and you even mentioned you're like, I don't get why Tyrone is against the cage. But I didn't like it either. What's he doing is get merged. That was their game plan because, well, do you know he does that a lot? Yes, he does that a lot and then one of boys account a striker so they wanted to bring him to woodley that was their thinking by him being against the cage and do all that and then get him to commit to take him down right so they kind of it's surprised one of the way a little bit but in the rematch I think it favors one of boys so much more because now he knows woodley's gonna fight like

SPEAKER_01

44:19 - 44:20

He might not fight like that.

SPEAKER_02

44:20 - 44:32

He might not fight like that. So then he's so and this is my thing here. I think the ability to change and and and be more dynamic is in one of boys favor. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

44:32 - 45:14

Yeah, I mean in a way, but here's the thing. Woodley only took him down once in the whole fight and mauled him once you got him to the ground. Which is why- What if one lit, what if Woodley decides to do that every fucking round? You know, I don't know how much Wonder Boy can stop Woodley from taking him down. Woodley is so much bigger, so much stronger and a way better wrestler. Woodley takes him down like he took him down the first round. I mean, that might have been the strategic error because Woodley mauled him in the first round. By the end of the round, his nose is fucked up, he's got a giant cut, he's leaking blood and Woodley just held him down and dominated him on the ground. So if he just does that in the round two and I mean, if he was able to do that instead of trying to stand and knock him out, he might have been able to stop him.

SPEAKER_02

45:14 - 45:39

Correct, but the reason why he got that takedown is based off those kicks and then one of boys stop kicking as like he wasn't looking for the knockout. Does that make sense? Like he was so hesitant after that. And I feel like the reason he got that was because of the kick. So I think one of boys can't make changes more of changes to win the next fight. It's all up and maybe Who knows, but I'm saying as far as game plan wise, I think it favors Wonderboy.

SPEAKER_01

45:39 - 45:47

Yeah, but here's the thing. Now that Tyron knows like Wonderboy's timing and he's building a rockham, he's going to have some serious confidence in launching that right hand.

SPEAKER_02

45:47 - 45:49

But go ahead and move forward on Wonderboy. See what happens.

SPEAKER_01

45:49 - 45:58

Yeah, but sometimes it works. I mean, he's been able to take him down. Other people will take him down. And when he gets him down, like the difference in the grappling was pretty fucking evident to me.

SPEAKER_02

45:59 - 46:02

Oh, look like a white belt versus, you know, just a strong girl.

SPEAKER_01

46:02 - 46:09

It's so much better at holding him in place. I was like, man, if this fight goes this way, Woodley's going to run away with. I thought first.

SPEAKER_02

46:09 - 46:11

Me too. Me too. He busted him open.

SPEAKER_01

46:11 - 46:23

Bad man. And then when you're dealing with Wonderboy, you're dealing with that weird sideways stance and just popping that jab in his face, hands down, hands down. He's a weird guy to spar with.

SPEAKER_02

46:23 - 46:34

The thing is, one boy really, he didn't let his hands go at all. At all. That left hand and he's so good to go in South Paul tradition. He can go back and forth. But it was all kicks for him.

SPEAKER_01

46:34 - 47:20

Well, I think he was worried after that take down and getting busted up, you know, opening up, getting taken down again. But, you know, tyrants are totally different animal, too. He's a different animal than Johnny Hendrix, like Johnny. Yeah, and the Johnny Hendrix that one to boy faced, let's be honest, he's not the same guy. Even close. He's just not I don't know. He's not the same guy that knocked out John Fitz. He's not the same guy that knocked out Martin Cameron. He's just not the same guy. No, just not no for whatever reason speculating all you want internet. Yeah, for whatever reason. Yeah, I mean maybe it's motivation. Maybe it's a personal problem. He opens up a stake restaurant and it went out of business terrible idea, but maybe he just terrible ideas was the worst that they If you're a celebrity and you got some cash, maybe the worst time you do that restaurant, it's not the way to go. Okay, I'm just going to get the sensible. Yeah. And happy.

SPEAKER_02

47:20 - 47:26

I got to be stressed out. Broke. I hate money. Do you have a restaurant I can best in? That's what I mean, it's a terrible idea.

SPEAKER_01

47:26 - 47:31

Even if they just put his name on it, he's still associated with that failure. And I'm sure he had to have some form of commitment to it.

SPEAKER_02

47:31 - 47:35

I'm sure he got a sign while people eating fucking tea bones for 30% off or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

47:35 - 47:57

I read it the not read it on the Yahoo and Yelp reviews rather. They were terribly bad. There were the worst was like one star we can be associated with that you can't like if you want to open up a restaurant and you're a celebrity good luck It should be like a really small place or like or you'd be a sort of be a silent investor like don't be don't be the face of it. There's a bunch of places like that in LA 100% yeah

SPEAKER_02

47:58 - 48:30

Yeah, like our boy Travis Barker, he owns crossroads. You don't see Mark and stuff like that, but it's like, and obviously not your cup of tea, but all vegan restaurants. It's like the number one place in LA as far as vegan goes. We're killing good. Yeah, but you don't see him blasting out there like his face on the front of the restaurant. We're playing the drums while they're serving up spring rolls. Well, they were calling it the big rig steakhouse. God damn it let some Texas shit. Yeah. It might work in Texas, right? Big rig steak. Oh, hey, man. I might get it wrong from big rig.

SPEAKER_01

48:30 - 48:34

What a it was awesome. You know, what if it was insane? No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_02

48:34 - 48:40

Has that ever worked? Well, I guess you know, Elway did it. John, Elway did his, Elway steakhouse in Denver kills it.

SPEAKER_01

48:40 - 48:45

It's a fine steak. Ted Ted has him. Who's Ted Turner?

SPEAKER_02

48:45 - 48:53

Oh, he's got those Ted's. Yeah, true. That's a nice and neat and shit. Yeah, it's a tough gig, man. Tough. Rocky did in the last one.

SPEAKER_01

48:53 - 49:12

But it's also for an athlete, especially a fighter where you're mind and the first of all, you have this event that happens. I don't have to tell you this, but for everybody listening, it happens. It takes months before the event. You're thinking about this event. You're preparing for the event and in the event as one night. Anything that can fuck your head up along the way should be avoided.

SPEAKER_02

49:12 - 49:17

Yeah, you shouldn't be thinking about getting mass discounts on tea bones and filet. You should be really worried about Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_01

49:17 - 49:23

Yeah. Anything. Anything that can fuck you up. You know, there's so many different things that can creep into your mind.

SPEAKER_02

49:24 - 49:32

Well, look, in, I mean, great transition. Look at me should take. Yeah. And I told, and I'm not taking anything away from Pennington. I thought she was brilliant. She did her job.

SPEAKER_01

49:32 - 49:35

I thought there was a real bad matchup for me, Sean. Honestly.

SPEAKER_02

49:35 - 49:56

I mean, she's on the rate for sure. I also think that version of Misha and I. I just, that's, Misha doesn't look into it or something else is going on. She's on an off night. She, it didn't look like the normal Misha where you used to see. And for Misha, for her to say, yeah, I, I think, I couldn't hear it because again, I was watching one of the live crowds. I couldn't hit, but she retired.

SPEAKER_01

49:56 - 50:12

Yeah, she retired. What did you say? She was just like, I'm out. Yeah, she says, I just want to say I'm done. I'm done. And I said, was this base entirely in your performance? Is it something you planned? And she said, no, it was based on my performance. And then she said, I've taken a lot of punishment. And that's fair, man.

SPEAKER_02

50:12 - 50:54

That's fair. And she's also, to me, she's someone you want your daughters to look up to, like, she's such a great face for women than me, just because obviously she's a beautiful young lady, probably the best looking one of the UFC, but she also, she speaks very well. She has the skills, you're talking about a lady who If you were to told her she'd been champ in the UFC, you know after you've seen her fights with Ron in these other fights, I'm sure she'm like your full of shit. And she just came back from this adversity like when she beat Holly. Amazing. Amazing man. And for her now, there's so much more for her to do. This is why I'm proud of her and her get out when she did because I don't know if you've heard her breakdown fights as a female analyst. She is so damn good. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01

50:54 - 50:55

Which is very smart.

SPEAKER_02

50:55 - 51:21

She's very smart. She's very good at breaking down the fights as far as not like Joe Rogan's style. Brian stands style down at Krustel. She's good as a analyst on when she's up there with like a stand and bisming those guys in. Have you had her on your show? We have not had her on her show. I listened her on your show and I thought she was brilliant. She's got her own show now, too. She has his own podcast. Well, she's already doing it the right way, but I think for her man like skies the limit. I really do.

SPEAKER_01

51:21 - 52:06

I think you're right. I think you're right. And I think if she really, you mean everybody always says that. If you have one foot out the door, you should just walk. Just go. There you go. Here. And that's what he said right now. here well you know like excuse me sir you're telling dick jokes and trying to fight right now what's one thing watching somebody who you don't love who's just like well you know or even you do love you don't have that close relationship with but that's a friend You know, you have a close friendship with someone. You see the path. I mean, it's one of those things, man, and you see it time and time again. I can name you 100 guys that I know that are kind of half in the game. And they still do it in every now and then they get knocked out or they'll fight some Yairra, Dregas, type motherfucker. Some upcoming feet. I mean, get lit up and all in. Yeah, those all in guys are fucking scary.

SPEAKER_02

52:06 - 52:09

Yeah, and you know for me is the best thing that ever happened to me in my life.

SPEAKER_01

52:09 - 52:28

So I think it's probably going to be the best thing for me. She two and one things that I said to me. She was like, you've already achieved the highest achievement ever in MMA. You were a world champion in the UFC. So like, you know, that no one could ever take that from her. She wanted in spectacular fashion and it was an amazing accomplishment. That's a giant thing to have in your resume, former world champion.

SPEAKER_02

52:29 - 53:08

And she's at the perfect time just talking about from business side of things is the UFC's contract with Fox is coming up. So what they're going to do from my understanding is it's going to be on multiple networks. So it's going to be like the NFL or NBA or whatever, these other sports leagues with the job just tied to Fox, which opens up the door for ESPN, CBS, all these other networks. So that opens up the door for all these other shows for her. So if I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now.

SPEAKER_01

53:08 - 53:15

Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02

53:15 - 53:20

If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right. If I'm, uh, me should take, I don't sign with fuck right now. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01

53:22 - 53:27

Yeah, I was in that happening with you guys. Isn't there a network issue? Yes, there's a network issue.

SPEAKER_00

53:27 - 53:28

Some sort of an issue with you guys being on Fox.

SPEAKER_02

53:28 - 53:40

Yeah. Well, for us, it's just, but Brian just don't talk about that on Rogan. And before I'm like, we gotta talk about it. Yeah, and you know, I'm an open book, man, like, do what?

SPEAKER_01

53:40 - 53:41

You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to.

SPEAKER_02

53:41 - 54:04

No, I know. We always talk that for me, it's just, you know, I'm always I'm always in the understanding of, uh, we don't need anybody. And you've always said that. And I think, uh, to find the kid fan base and what we've achieved has literally nothing to do with Fox. You know, they gave us a studio and I, and I'm grateful for that stuff, but we would be here with her without them.

SPEAKER_01

54:04 - 54:16

You know, studios, not that big a deal. You just rent, you rent office space, a lot of guys. We all know people to do it. Tom and Christina do it. Joey Diaz does it. I do it. A lot of people do it. They just rent space. Correct. It's not hard to do it.

SPEAKER_02

54:16 - 54:22

No, and we, you know, our biggest issue would be finding a good producer to help us like a young Jamie.

SPEAKER_01

54:22 - 55:34

All you have to do is put out the ad through the bat signal up online. I'm sure this is the best signal. We're looking for one. Yeah, I mean, if you find someone who knows how to handle the internet side of things, and I'm sure Jamie can help them. What's going on today that's really interesting in podcasting, and we've kind of talked about this before, but is that the real network is the organic network between friends. Correct. This is between all of us between Joey and Bill Burr and Berk-Krisher and Tom Segura. We're all just a bunch of friends and we talk about each other and we have each other on and everybody finds out about each other from each other and we retweet each other and re-instagram each other and support each other and that's not like a real network where there's no like deals going on, no paper signed. And then everybody sort of benefited from it equally. Everybody gets something out of it, you know? That's a real network. This other thing is a weird business where non-creative people capitalize on the work of creative people and they provide you with what? A fucking series of walls and an internet connection. Oh, thank you. You definitely should get half the money. How do you fucking mind? Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

SPEAKER_02

55:35 - 55:46

It's just a different age now that we're going into and we're in a good spot. That's a good thing we're in a good spot and we offer some of these other networks and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01

55:46 - 55:56

That's all good and the most important thing is just you guys love what you do and the show's fun and that's the biggest thing. And then people are going to still enjoy it so it's almost like think about it as little as you can I guess.

SPEAKER_02

55:57 - 56:07

Oh, for me, I see it as an opportunity. Like, when we were discussing it today, I was excited. I'm like, oh, yes. We kind of get our Joe Rogan on now.

SPEAKER_01

56:07 - 56:21

Yeah, you got to do that for sure. A lot of guys have done. You know, my friend Dave Rubin, who was on last week, he had a similar situation. He was with one network. He left that. He went with another network and he was like, what the fuck am I doing? And I told him, I'm like, dude, just keep just be free. Just get out there.

SPEAKER_02

56:22 - 56:35

Well, I think what people don't realize is like, all the guests, the marketing, the merchant, like, I have, I've hired our own booker. We've had our own public, like, it's all in-house. It's all, whatever I want to do with it. Like, we literally just shut up to the studio.

SPEAKER_01

56:35 - 56:43

Yeah, I can't imagine how they thought that they'd get 50% of that. It seems so crazy. It's insane. It's just, maybe they just don't know how much money it is or they don't.

SPEAKER_02

56:43 - 56:51

I was literally laughing. Like, physically laughing. Like, oh, you have, how many guys resolve it? How'd you end it? Now it's off to the agents.

SPEAKER_01

56:51 - 57:01

Call agent like there you go, man. I thought they should have never brought you in in the first place. It all that stuff supposed to be done with agents. And that's supposed to bring you in and talk financials with you with no representation.

SPEAKER_02

57:01 - 57:10

Correct. However, I'm very, and if to almost all fault, I'm very in on. as far as the business sites, things go with fire and the kid.

SPEAKER_00

57:10 - 57:11

I like I want to be involved.

SPEAKER_02

57:11 - 57:23

Now when it goes to negotiate, you guys do that. If you want to change the logo from a maroon to an orange, you better fucking go over it with me. If you do something without me knowing, then we have issues.

SPEAKER_01

57:23 - 57:26

Do they think they can do that kind of shit though? Do you think that they would start doing that?

SPEAKER_02

57:26 - 57:37

They did it once and I was like, what do they do? They they change something. They have some logo. They tweeted something out that I didn't approve. And you know, you can call me a control freak, but so this is like the network did that.

SPEAKER_01

57:37 - 57:38

Fox did that.

SPEAKER_02

57:38 - 57:46

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they have certain people run the accounts, you know, so they just decided that they were doing that. I'm like, oh, what are you doing? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

57:46 - 58:00

So, well, that's you're in a weird gray area. You know, you have your own show. You have a very limited amount of people that are in charge of that show. But all these other people that are sort of used still like if they have a show, they get a say. I remember when they were telling you not to swear.

SPEAKER_02

58:00 - 58:02

Yeah. Oh, no, they sent me a throw.

SPEAKER_01

58:02 - 58:07

I told you guys to go get free. I mean, you've got that forever. You know, no swearing. What? I know.

SPEAKER_02

58:07 - 58:12

And it makes, it makes the audience like almost you think they're stupid or they can't handle the swear words.

SPEAKER_01

58:12 - 58:19

It brings it. It takes away everything that's great about the internet. What's great about the internet is you just, you could be yourself.

SPEAKER_02

58:19 - 58:35

You go, you be yourself. But also what they don't realize, again, it's just an old school way of thinking. They don't realize how big podcast is getting because whether I'm at Fox. I'm in Joe Rogan's bathroom doing the podcast. The listeners just want the audio. You know, they just want the show.

SPEAKER_01

58:35 - 58:42

They don't do it. I can do the show. I got a little microphone that I hook up to this fucking thing to my. That's what Bill Burn does. Dude, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

58:42 - 58:49

It just goes off his iPhone, like a maniac. And it still works. Mark Man does that as a garage for God's sake. That's a Predon's garage.

SPEAKER_01

58:49 - 58:51

Yeah. Well, he's actually got a pretty sweet setup.

SPEAKER_02

58:51 - 58:53

No, he really does, but you get the point.

SPEAKER_01

58:53 - 58:56

Yeah, I'm gonna try to find this shit in there. Let's show you what this thing is.

SPEAKER_02

58:56 - 59:02

Um, yeah, it's just, it's just a different kind of day and age of me and we're in a good spot, man. So I'm happy.

SPEAKER_01

59:02 - 59:15

Yeah, I just don't think that this, this, the, oh, I'll find it later. But anyway, it's a microphone. Time to sit sitting here and has a built in little tripod on it. So I think it's called an Apigee or something like that here.

SPEAKER_02

59:15 - 59:20

You ever use the zoom mic? Yeah, Brian, I start a zoom mic in his garage.

SPEAKER_00

59:20 - 59:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

59:22 - 59:25

All those, it's just, you don't need much.

SPEAKER_02

59:25 - 59:38

You don't need much. I mean, we're trying, obviously we're trying to go the freaking JRE experience. And then Jamie told me how much that goddamn mothership board is over there. Yeah, well, we'll probably, I'll probably see if I can get that at a goodwill or something like this.

SPEAKER_01

59:38 - 59:54

That's what this. This little thing right there. See this little jammy? This little microphone. I take this little microphone. I screw it in here. This little baby here is a little fucking tripod that sits on. It all comes with a little case. I pop that sucker down, you can set it up in a hotel room. Damn, son.

SPEAKER_02

59:54 - 59:56

That's what you did on the plane we were doing in Tony.

SPEAKER_01

59:56 - 01:00:08

No, the on the plane we're doing in Tony. I didn't even have this yet. Damn, the things don't. Dude, it's the shit. Wow. What's it called? It's called the Apagee or something like that. I set that up and it's a real live condenser microphone.

SPEAKER_02

01:00:08 - 01:00:12

And it picks up all the voices. It does it all through your phone. That's, that's really dope.

SPEAKER_01

01:00:12 - 01:00:28

It's incredible. That's really cool. This is all you need. Like you don't need all this other shit. We do all this other shit because even way, way, way back in the day, I was like, why wouldn't we have a visual element of it? Why wouldn't we have, like, we were doing the streaming version of it, even actually before we were doing anything else.

SPEAKER_02

01:00:28 - 01:00:41

Visuals baked on our YouTube, we need the visual aspect of it for sure. Like you can't downgrade now. But also for us, it's just, um, Yeah, you just want to continually continually get better.

SPEAKER_04

01:00:41 - 01:00:44

Keep working, baby.

SPEAKER_02

01:00:44 - 01:00:52

I can't believe they didn't fire us. I've said some how land is shit on that show. I can't be fucking like listen. We just can't have it.

SPEAKER_01

01:00:52 - 01:01:01

Well, I think they pay attention. Yeah, they know the numbers. They know the numbers. That's one thing they do know because you're on their network because they're like Jesus. You know, there's not another thing that they have.

SPEAKER_02

01:01:02 - 01:01:18

Especially kind of down there's a time there when I especially write when I retired and I was like, you know, I was angry. I was angry at certain things. Man, I'd lash out on the mic and stuff like that, especially in there. They're obviously in Kuhutsu with the UFC. So how they didn't fire me, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01

01:01:18 - 01:01:24

Well, I think the worst thing could be that they did fire you. It's actually smart that they didn't because you know what the strikes and effect is.

SPEAKER_02

01:01:25 - 01:01:29

Yeah, like when you see now, band me and I went howling like a little owl to everybody.

SPEAKER_01

01:01:29 - 01:01:36

Or, you know, there's there's a bunch of examples of things like that that have happened where someone gets bigger because like Milo e andapolis, you know, he is? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:01:36 - 01:01:37

He got banned from Twitter.

SPEAKER_01

01:01:37 - 01:01:44

He got banned from Twitter because he was making fun of Ghostbusters. He became bigger than ever. He became like this cultural alt-right icon because of that.

SPEAKER_02

01:01:44 - 01:01:56

It's publicity you can't pay for. Look at Ariel Hoani, bad example. Ariel Hoani, you remember when the USC banned him kicked him out and he went on all those networks. You see, you're like, my bad, my bad. You're back in. Yeah, for a little while. I'll know he's got a little. Is he out again?

SPEAKER_01

01:01:56 - 01:02:01

Yeah. Watch out again because the Brock Lesnar thing. Remember when is he out again?

SPEAKER_04

01:02:01 - 01:02:02

I thought he was in New York.

SPEAKER_01

01:02:02 - 01:02:19

I don't think so. Was he there in the arena that he had press credentials? I don't know about me. I saw him walking around like oh, he was fired from Fox. That's what he was fired from Fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but not fired from his trying to do in the UFC me so he's banned from being in the media for a little while and they let him back in his other works.

SPEAKER_02

01:02:19 - 01:02:44

Yeah, but the thing is in Dana's defense and the U.S. defense is you NFL, you know, that certain leagues do that they don't they don't allow certain people in Hmm so it's not you know like as much as North Korea as we thought like there's there are leagues who banned guys from coming to the events hmm well I don't know I don't know what the fuck the NFL does so it's not even worth me talking about it how about how be even number of them at off

SPEAKER_01

01:02:45 - 01:02:53

What a fucking scary monster that guy is, but here's the thing. He did get clipped. He had been clipped. Michael Johnson clipped him. And I'm watching that and I was like, what would Connor do to this kid? Right?

SPEAKER_02

01:02:53 - 01:03:13

Because before I'm like Connor get marked by Kabe. And I saw him like, well, if Johnson lands that, you bet your sweet ass Connor's gonna land that. Yeah, magical left-hand. I'm done questioning what Connor's capable of. Because I was like, Eddie's a tough matchup. I think he's gonna win this one. I do. God damn, I'm scared for this fight. I kind of want to see him fight Woodley. I'd love to see him fight Brock Lesnar.

SPEAKER_01

01:03:13 - 01:03:18

I want to see him take six months off. I want to see him take six months off and pull up.

SPEAKER_02

01:03:18 - 01:03:24

You know, it's crazy a little bit of me. It's not that outlandish to see that. Oh, that's very possible.

SPEAKER_01

01:03:24 - 01:03:25

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02

01:03:25 - 01:03:31

It's totally possible. The hiccup in that is the U.S. He's like, do we just let him get all the belts and all the control?

SPEAKER_01

01:03:31 - 01:03:41

Like where do we stop it before before he's running this bed to give up one of his belts to take on another one. He needs to get about 45. He has 45. He's never going to fight again.

SPEAKER_02

01:03:41 - 01:03:46

He might If that cut down tough, well, that's up.

SPEAKER_01

01:03:46 - 01:04:04

But the cuts different now because you're allowed to begin your rehydration much earlier. You can weigh in at 8 o'clock in the morning. 8 to 10 in the morning. So by the time the ceremonial weigh-in rolls around, it was in New York City at 6 p.m. He was full. I mean, he looked great. He didn't look dehydrated at all. At 55. But even at 55, he used to look dehydrated, right?

SPEAKER_02

01:04:05 - 01:04:09

Not too bad. 45. He looked very good. They're the door of death.

SPEAKER_01

01:04:09 - 01:04:11

And also, we've never really seen him at 55 in the UFC.

SPEAKER_02

01:04:11 - 01:04:21

We haven't seen him in K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K-3 or K

SPEAKER_01

01:04:27 - 01:04:36

I think it's hilarious, too. It's funny because it's not my life, though, but if I was all though, I'd be fucking freaking out. All though, who's the champ forever? Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out.

SPEAKER_02

01:04:36 - 01:04:51

Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out.

SPEAKER_01

01:04:51 - 01:04:57

Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Reach I've always been knocking on the fucking door for a long time, man.

SPEAKER_02

01:04:57 - 01:05:06

Nine straight. How he does that's ridiculous? He just needs a bigger name. He just, he just, he needs to get more famous. That's the day and age we're in. He just has to get famous or get on the mic, talk some shit.

SPEAKER_01

01:05:06 - 01:05:15

I'm really interested to see him versus pet us because pet us, I think it's real diminished by that cut. I agree. That's a hard cut for him to get on the 45.

SPEAKER_02

01:05:15 - 01:05:21

And I love pet us, man. I'm a huge pet us fan. but he hasn't looked the same as of late.

SPEAKER_01

01:05:21 - 01:05:31

Max Holley's a slick motherfucker, too. You realize it now after you watch Frankie Edgar and Jeremy Stevens fight, you realize how slick Holley is. Holley was never in trouble and that fight never.

SPEAKER_02

01:05:31 - 01:05:36

But then also think about his last loss was Connor McGregor. And to Connor had a match up knee, but I went to decision.

SPEAKER_01

01:05:36 - 01:05:38

The only decision Connor's had in the UFC.

SPEAKER_02

01:05:38 - 01:06:04

And think how much better Max always now. Yep. If you win this one, Derek God, if someone's listening to that kid of title shot. Yeah. What's he have to do? I know. What do you do with Tony and Kabeep though? You're talking about two crazy win streak, too. Like how do you even... Just make him fight. Yes. That's the life thing. You make them fight. Make them fight. But say you had to pick one of them. If Connor's a guy, I'll fight at 55 and three months, who the fuck won some?

SPEAKER_01

01:06:04 - 01:06:34

Well, right now, before that fight, Tony Ferguson was the number one contender. Rightly so, just beat Hafeldo Sanjos, beat a shitload of guys. Because he's so active. He beat Edson Barbosa. He was the number one contender, according to whatever the rankings are, which I don't think are accurate. All the time tosses. Some of them kind of so. Yeah. But the second position right now if he's still number one, it's clearly Habib was number one, but Habib's been way more inactive than Tony. But the way Habib mauled Michael Johnson, I think he makes his case. That was above all. Both have a case.

SPEAKER_02

01:06:34 - 01:06:45

One's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one's undefeated, one

SPEAKER_01

01:06:46 - 01:07:05

And then fucking make a destroy Johnson was horrible watching a beat up Johnson, you know, and because he he's so good at tying up that one arm. He ties up the one arm then fucking smashes. He was the other man mountain man was pain like that. One arm try to protect him and he's getting just thumped in the head.

SPEAKER_02

01:07:05 - 01:07:09

It's not a whole that chicken when you're other than a snap that bitch up. Yeah, it's not good.

SPEAKER_01

01:07:09 - 01:07:10

I thought he was too.

SPEAKER_02

01:07:10 - 01:07:14

But there's a place to be pleased to have. Yeah, it was like brave heart. Just come on man.

SPEAKER_01

01:07:14 - 01:07:21

So it deep. It was so deep. I was thinking, Nog, when Nog and Frank mere fall. That's what I was thinking. I was like, this is going to snap.

SPEAKER_02

01:07:22 - 01:07:30

But like same with hands over there, you fuse the tap. I get that. Your Priscilla and Jiu-Jitsu to the day you died. Like a Johnson and go ahead and tap those, sir. Yeah, that's not you.

SPEAKER_01

01:07:30 - 01:07:45

I'm glad he tapped me too. I was literally squeezing my hands together. What I was doing to come here, I'm like, come on tap, come on tap. Just to what now thing. It was just when he got him down and then immediately slid right into mounted guillotine, I was like, Jesus Christ in his grave. Let's ridiculous. So good.

SPEAKER_02

01:07:46 - 01:07:54

His grappling's so good it's confusing I don't that yeah, so those two findings the fight, mm-hmm. That's the fight.

SPEAKER_01

01:07:54 - 01:08:12

Connor and Habib are the fight. That's not happening, but I think Habib needs to get the title to get a title shot at least. That's what I think. I think he deserves it. He's the only undefeated challenger. He's a monster. He's mauled everybody in front of him. He hasn't had a single goddamn close fight. He's had one moment, one moment where he gets dinged.

SPEAKER_02

01:08:12 - 01:08:22

But you're talking, you're speaking logically. Yes. You think in guys that deserve it? Well, we're in entertainment, sir. Just the same way Connor leapfrogged everyone and got the title shot.

SPEAKER_01

01:08:22 - 01:08:27

Listen to what I'm saying to you right now. The UFC is about to go to Russia.

SPEAKER_02

01:08:29 - 01:08:32

Do you know that? Yeah, they want to get in there. They're don't what they're going to do. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

01:08:32 - 01:08:40

For sure. See in Russia, Connor McGregor versus how bebe, never get met off. That's what I think it's common.

SPEAKER_03

01:08:40 - 01:08:44

There's a lot of Russians.

SPEAKER_02

01:08:44 - 01:08:53

There's like it could be got on the mic, right? And was like, yeah. You know how much bigger fucking Russia is than Ireland? Yeah, but he's not the same star.

SPEAKER_01

01:08:53 - 01:09:07

Well, here's the deal. Russia's bigger than Ireland, but the United States is bigger than Ireland too. And when fucking Connor is fighting in New York City, which is an hour and a half from Eddie Alvarez's house, they're boon Eddie Alvarez. He's walking to the cage.

SPEAKER_02

01:09:07 - 01:09:13

No, it doesn't matter, Russia, China, Korea, Ireland, and Congress, the biggest star by far. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01

01:09:13 - 01:09:18

When you go to Russia, I wonder if he gets booed in Russia.

SPEAKER_02

01:09:18 - 01:09:22

Don't you think if Kubee was that big of a star in Russia, maybe it's sanctioning stuff?

SPEAKER_01

01:09:22 - 01:09:28

And they are going there. If you check my Instagram page, every time a fucking photo gets up, and they'll hash the time.

SPEAKER_02

01:09:28 - 01:09:34

A big king. No, he's champ. He deserves it, but there's a reason why he hasn't been the headline of a paper view.

SPEAKER_01

01:09:35 - 01:09:53

Maybe in the States here. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. But he is a fucking monster and he's a hero to the Russian MMA fans. Correct. This guy from Dagestan has been mawling everybody. They put in front of them and people think and rightly so that he's unjustly keeping being kept rather from a title shot.

SPEAKER_02

01:09:53 - 01:10:01

We can't say he's been kept from a title shot when he's been injured for a long time. That's true, too. Who's keeping him from getting injured? The blame on A.K. That's not Connor's that's true.

SPEAKER_01

01:10:02 - 01:10:18

But they did promise him this fight. This was something that they said, no, Habib gets the next shot of the title. This is something that was publicly stated, which made sense at the time, because Habib is 23 and no, he's going to fight and mass this work, garden for the title. There's a way they were saying. It's going to be about the economy versus Eddie Auras.

SPEAKER_02

01:10:18 - 01:10:25

I can't have that. That doesn't sell tickets. Exactly. The economy went, no, I want to fight them. And Habib will keep you on the car. I want you to find an undercar, though.

SPEAKER_01

01:10:25 - 01:10:29

Imagine how Habib feels when he hears that shit. Man, he gets that phone quality, thinks this is it. Finally.

SPEAKER_02

01:10:30 - 01:10:37

He went in his backyard and beat the shit out of that cardiac beer. He's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

01:10:37 - 01:10:39

Yeah, he's a kid.

SPEAKER_02

01:10:39 - 01:10:42

So much tougher than anyone I know.

SPEAKER_01

01:10:42 - 01:10:49

He's so goddamn tough. He's ridiculous. His grappling's ridiculous. I'm really interested in seeing whether or not he can get past that left hand.

SPEAKER_02

01:10:49 - 01:11:00

And if you are correct, and that's the fight in Russia, the amount of money. They're gonna have to pay Connor to fight him in Russia when Connor still the draw. You're talking about a different ball game.

SPEAKER_01

01:11:00 - 01:11:10

Show me the money. It's gonna be interesting though. Like what other Russian bad asses are there that fight in the UFC? Did you see that, uh, Corishkov just got knocked the fuck out in Beltore?

SPEAKER_02

01:11:10 - 01:11:12

Yes, which was crazy. My Lima.

SPEAKER_01

01:11:12 - 01:11:15

My Lima is a bad motherfucker. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:11:15 - 01:11:25

Of course, God's a monster. Speaking of Russians or in that area, and not to flip the script here, but this weekend is Andre Ward versus Frickin. That's right.

SPEAKER_01

01:11:25 - 01:11:26

That's right.

SPEAKER_02

01:11:26 - 01:11:34

That's just weak boxing match up in a long time. No one's talking about either. That's how it's. I know. I've been watching all the count downs and shit. I can't get enough of it.

SPEAKER_01

01:11:34 - 01:11:49

I know. I watched that last countdown thing they did, too. It was on after the Victor T's fight. Yeah, it just looks like shit. Well, the duty fall was like a sort of survival mode. He was terrified. Yeah. He didn't throw any punches. Nothing. They said through the whole fight he threw a hundred and something.

SPEAKER_02

01:11:49 - 01:11:53

He was so scared. And then Ortiz would touch him. He'd pretend to fall down because he's like waiting for him.

SPEAKER_01

01:11:53 - 01:11:58

But he also was grabbing his head saying he'd get hit in the back of the head a couple of times. It was a terrible fight.

SPEAKER_02

01:11:58 - 01:12:17

Wasn't good. But that you're right right after that was Andre Ward for sure. Kovalev like the countdown kind of their background in Andre Ward. To me, he's just a bigger version of Floyd and Mayweather. Like his defense is insane, but he has not got power. He hasn't lost since he's 13. I give him the advantage. Some people think covalips can win. I don't know what the betting odds are.

SPEAKER_01

01:12:17 - 01:12:39

I was stunned by the way, Covalve handled Hopkins, and I know Bernard's old. He's 100 years old. It was a thousand. He looks like a turtle. He looks old. He's fighting again to sound like a tenth or twelve. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm

SPEAKER_02

01:12:39 - 01:12:40

Was that the best weekend ever?

SPEAKER_01

01:12:40 - 01:12:42

Well, besides that I've been sighted. It's a good fucking car.

SPEAKER_02

01:12:42 - 01:12:44

Dude, that Toronto car is stuck.

SPEAKER_01

01:12:44 - 01:12:45

It is now.

SPEAKER_02

01:12:45 - 01:12:47

Cause you got a Kennedy or a shot.

SPEAKER_01

01:12:47 - 01:12:52

Cowboy, Matt Brown. Yeah. Cowboy versus Matt Brown is better than Cowboy versus gasoline.

SPEAKER_02

01:12:52 - 01:12:54

100. That fight didn't nothing for me.

SPEAKER_01

01:12:54 - 01:13:05

Well, gasoline is done now, man. He's in a bad, bad, bad place. Dana says this fight 85. No. He's missed. He said that before and made him fight 85. Maybe beat Nate Marquard 85.

SPEAKER_02

01:13:05 - 01:13:05

Correct, sir.

SPEAKER_04

01:13:06 - 01:13:08

Wasn't that 85-35 Mark Warp?

SPEAKER_02

01:13:08 - 01:13:10

No, if I'm Mark R at a 70. Was it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

01:13:10 - 01:13:18

It was one of those fights that he beat somebody because he got sent up to 85 and then he proved that he could make the way. And he's blaming George Lockhart now.

SPEAKER_02

01:13:18 - 01:13:39

Now the only person who can blame is yourself. Like you know, man, especially being like experienced is you know. And that's it's so frustrating. That shows what kind of card do you have to see to a five was. I didn't even blink. I didn't bad night out. All right, what's next? Look at this fucking card. I know. Team K Rashad, that sucks. Oh my god, look at this card. You know, well, now Toronto's just stack.

SPEAKER_01

01:13:39 - 01:13:54

Gastulum is a really elite fighter. He's a very tough guy. A lot of tough guys. I'm a big fan of that kid. I think he's awesome, but he needs to lose some fucking body fat period. You're not a heavyweight. You're not king of the last guys. He can't walk around with that much body fat.

SPEAKER_02

01:13:54 - 01:14:03

When he posts on Instagram like a week before or two weeks for a fight like real Mexican dinner, it's like these fucking burritos in Chalata stuff. All right, man. We can't have that. We cannot have that.

SPEAKER_01

01:14:03 - 01:14:11

So can't do that. I mean, he's an elite professional athlete who absolutely could still to this day win the world title. He has to skill for sure.

SPEAKER_02

01:14:11 - 01:14:14

He has to skill. And he's fought the guys and he beat Woodley, yeah?

SPEAKER_01

01:14:15 - 01:14:45

Did he be in the decision where he didn't fucking make way there you go decision where he didn't fucking make way and would be being the great guy that he is didn't take the percentage the 30% yeah 20 I think it is when your opponent doesn't make way 30 30 okay I thought it was 20 would be in a great guy that he said I don't want that money and he beat him by decision because so would he got the win bonus to but Kelvin I don't know who Kelvin has fought at 85 in the last few years but

SPEAKER_02

01:14:46 - 01:15:14

He's these been forced at one point time to go up to 85 just needs to fucking lose body fat just lose it and keep it off dude and anytime a fighter doesn't make make way Mike Dolchay jumps out like Chris Hansen from the catch predator Excuse me want to take a seat you want to sit down and he he cannot wait to tweet out Man, it's frustrating when guys miss Wade. Yeah, like he is just super thirsty in me like Chris Anthony catch a predator just fucking can't wait to tweet about it. Well, don't you?

SPEAKER_01

01:15:14 - 01:15:32

He's got a whole staff. He's got a staff of people. He's expensive. Yeah, he's got a well, he has expensive for reasons. He's got an office building. Yeah, I think he has like nine employees or some crazy just look in the face and how the fuck and lose weight and shit.

SPEAKER_02

01:15:32 - 01:15:35

Yeah, but he comes out the curtains though.

SPEAKER_01

01:15:35 - 01:15:51

I want to be a disagree with him though. A lot of people disagree with some of his methods in the locker room. Yeah, well, he was he was just upset that well, he was upset for a bunch of reasons. He made the wait though, but he was upset they don't take charge of so much and you know, he really didn't do much.

SPEAKER_02

01:15:51 - 01:15:59

I don't know the whole story either. I'm not taking sides there, but I will tell you this BJP and the goddamn legend. So I'm citing with him usually. He's from Hawaii.

SPEAKER_01

01:16:00 - 01:16:22

Yeah, I don't know what the fuck happened. Me neither. You'd have to be there. But the point is like if you have someone who is monitoring every aspect of your wake cut like your hydration levels with what kind of fluids you're drinking, what kind of foods you're eating and it doesn't work out. If you did what that guy said and the weight didn't come off somebody fucked up, who fucked up? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

01:16:22 - 01:16:56

It'd be the guy. But let me ask you a show if some if if Let's, let's say it's not UFC 25. This week by 10 pounds though, which is ridiculous. But let's say it's not UFC 25, where it's a card not a stack. Let's say it's a main event in Toronto with DC and rumble, which before that card was spear-shipped besides that fight. Now it's an amazing card. Yeah, that's Halloween. Anthony Pettis, blah, blah. would it be crazy for the new UFC suits to hire nutritionists and they for those maybe just the main card. They designate you a guy to help you lose weight because it's your product.

SPEAKER_01

01:16:56 - 01:16:58

It's not a bad idea.

SPEAKER_02

01:16:58 - 01:17:13

However, I think like maybe Mike Dolce, it's works with everyone and he has a team. Maybe it's not Mike Dolce, but he's riding the plan this year diet and this person is assigned to you and they're following up with you. Because who does it hurt when they don't make way? It hurts the fighter and it hurts the UFC too.

SPEAKER_01

01:17:13 - 01:17:44

Psychards. I think an even better strategy is seek to eliminate weight cuts. Seek to cut it out of sport. It's unnecessary. It's dangerous. It puts guys at risk. health wise when they don't have to be at risk health wise. If I think the only thing that's holding it back are championship belts and more options are weight classes. I think if they can figure out what weight guys are where they compete at optimally and then the same way you do US ADA or you saw the testing you do hydration testing.

SPEAKER_02

01:17:44 - 01:17:47

But how many weight class you'd have to give these guys to kill you in weight class.

SPEAKER_01

01:17:47 - 01:18:27

Yes, yep. You have you have more weight class within you boxing. No, that's what the problem is. It's not a problem with boxing. No, look at the board and the whole level. They're going to fight you will you have less organizations. It's not like you have five different world title organizations and plus weight classes. You would just have plus weight classes. I think you would have more champions. You'd have more opportunity for championship titles. I like that camera stars. You also have more opportunity for, you know, title bounce between guys where the one guy decides to go up one guy decides to go down. But instead of them doing it by dehydrating themselves 24 hours out, you make a contract to fight it a certain weight because that's what way you are in a healthy way.

SPEAKER_02

01:18:27 - 01:18:30

which is Matt, which maximizes the skills and performance.

SPEAKER_01

01:18:30 - 01:18:38

Yes, and it doesn't put them at the dangers that you have from being dehydrated 24 hours out. I think of any of these stuff that you have.

SPEAKER_02

01:18:38 - 01:18:40

How many weight classes do you have where question?

SPEAKER_01

01:18:40 - 01:18:44

You know what I'm saying? But that's 20 belts? Well, I think boxing has that many.

SPEAKER_02

01:18:44 - 01:18:45

And it's a real problem.

SPEAKER_01

01:18:45 - 01:18:50

Name 10 stars amazing. But I don't care. Name 10 stars in the UFC.

SPEAKER_02

01:18:50 - 01:18:51

Do you want me to?

SPEAKER_01

01:18:51 - 01:18:52

Yeah. Okay. 10 champions.

SPEAKER_02

01:18:53 - 01:18:59

We'll tend to- I can- I can shop in a former case. I can name- I can name champions and former champions easily.

SPEAKER_01

01:18:59 - 01:19:27

Don't you think you can name 10 champion box or so? Man, you pack you out. Tim Bradley. If you want to start going on. Yeah, yeah. It's Crawford. You see, it's more interesting. You know, you know, the San Francisco has seven or not. Those are fun. Floyd, may well, you know, you can keep going. You can name a bunch of champions in boxing. But all those guys run the same way. Yeah. That's true. That's true. But, you know, you go up in heavyweight. You got fucking glitch go. Wilder. I got chance. I think Josh was weak.

SPEAKER_02

01:19:29 - 01:19:32

You did it. Let's go chill. Let's go chill. Let's go chill. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

01:19:32 - 01:19:43

He's fighting for a whole time. So what's the year today? But he had to move it to, yeah, he's fighting for a world title. Brilliant. Interesting. Let's get me fun. Yeah. Just a lot of heavyweight talent now. Anthony Joshua. He's a bad motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02

01:19:43 - 01:19:47

Yeah, they got in frickin' New Zealand that everyone talks about.

SPEAKER_01

01:19:47 - 01:19:49

What is Tyson Fury doing?

SPEAKER_02

01:19:49 - 01:20:11

uh... he's retired and clinically like that he's he's so sad on needs some help mentally it's just not there so he's out down now he's crazy man that dude's crazy I think you need characters like that. But I like the idea, but the problem is it's stuff enough for that. We're trying to keep up now with the stars.

SPEAKER_01

01:20:11 - 01:20:15

I think that's the least of our concerns. The most important thing is to put on great fights.

SPEAKER_02

01:20:15 - 01:20:19

It's actually so higher, because how much more dehydration?

SPEAKER_01

01:20:19 - 01:20:34

4 billion. The dehydration is dangerous and unnecessary. I think they haven't Brazil. I think if you see, it can come close to the UFC. But do you know the dosand, do you know that dosand, do you know that dosand just passed out for three fucking minutes before his fight with Eddie Alvarez, where he's unconscious and unresponsive?

SPEAKER_02

01:20:34 - 01:20:37

But did you die? He was on a door, bro. But did you die?

SPEAKER_01

01:20:37 - 01:21:21

No, what he's died. But I think people have been diminished considerably. And I think they're no formists. They're performance sufferers. So it makes a, it makes a shitty product. If you want to look at it from a business, plus if the UFC has got, look, you could say, hey, steroids are part of the game. Are they? Well, not anymore. Now, they're fucking knocking on your door at 6 o'clock at the morning, making you pee in a cup. If they decided to do that at 6 o'clock at the morning, they tried to test people's hydration levels at 6 o'clock in the morning every day. And when it would find out what your weight is, okay, this is what your body fat is, this is what your weight is. This is the lowest you can get. You can get, you know, they'll test you out when you're fully hydrated and when your body fat is, you know, wherever the fuck you are right now, they'll say, hey, okay, right now you're 178 pounds. Listen, the lowest you can fight is 172. That's it.

SPEAKER_02

01:21:23 - 01:21:25

You're going to have 1,000 weight classes.

SPEAKER_01

01:21:25 - 01:21:32

And some guys won't fight each other. I don't know about that. I think guys some guys can gain a little weight. That's no big deal.

SPEAKER_02

01:21:32 - 01:21:35

I don't mind the idea. I think you're right. You're going to get great performances.

SPEAKER_01

01:21:35 - 01:21:36

Way better performances.

SPEAKER_02

01:21:36 - 01:21:52

I think the weight class thing is your thing to do is I agree. They obviously need to do something. But I think Right now, the easiest thing to do for them is to use whoever they want. Doesn't have to make Michael J. But a number of them and assign those to the main card guys to make sure they're coming on weight.

SPEAKER_01

01:21:52 - 01:21:57

Yeah, but what about the guys in the undercard? Fuck them. That sounds crazy too. Does it?

SPEAKER_02

01:21:57 - 01:22:05

Does that's what they did with Reebok? Does it sound like crazy? Say fuck them? Yes, it does. But that's the nature of the beast, but that I think that's crazy too.

SPEAKER_01

01:22:05 - 01:22:59

I think that's what they're doing. I'm just following the orders. I understand that. But I'm saying if I had the master key, the first thing I would do is say, come up with a strategy to stop weight cutting. We're going to come up with a new plan. And whether that new plan means abandoning world titles. and making tea. Yes, yes. How do you introduce someone as a world champion? You know, whoever the fuck they are, they get to, you know, bring their world title to the fight. But whenever their next title defences or whatever the fuck it is, all this name stuff, welter, light, feather, first of all, it's goofy because it's not the right way to anyway. Welter weight is not 170. It's 147. That's a sugary Leonard and Thomas Horne's father. They call it fucking welter weight. to start the UFC and just to say, well, it's Walter Wade. And then pride fucked it up even more, because they had it. It was different. Like their middle weight was 203. Correct. Like what? And then light heavy weight isn't 205.

SPEAKER_02

01:22:59 - 01:23:00

It's 205. What do you know is that?

SPEAKER_01

01:23:00 - 01:23:22

Heavy weight's 201 plus. Yeah, we grew up in boxing and the weight classes were clearly defined. Why the fuck does UFC have a 265 pound weight limit, too? Why you making Brock Lesnar cut weight or whoever the fuck a big giant dude is like Shane. Why would you make Shane cut weight? You want some way 300 pounds? Let that fucking big vanilla gorilla.

SPEAKER_02

01:23:22 - 01:23:53

I want to say it dude. He has a matchup in rising. I just saw it. Someone said and I haven't seen it. Dude, I've never heard of him. I've never heard him, I guess he's just some fucking Middle Eastern monster. Oh no. Yeah, Olympic level wrestling just knocks dudes out. Oh my god. Yeah, I don't, I need to research on the guy, but someone tagged me and I'm like, oh my god. I thought they were fucking a fader though. That's a big name match. It's a fader. It's a tournament. It's like pride style. When you just, like, the winner doesn't fight fader. It's supposed to be like an open-weight tournament.

SPEAKER_01

01:23:53 - 01:23:57

It's dope. What kind of work has Shane had Dawn's back?

SPEAKER_02

01:23:58 - 01:24:02

He had surgery, I know he had a disc replacement and then he had some stuff on his neck.

SPEAKER_01

01:24:02 - 01:24:08

He had a disc replacement, pretty sure. Like they put one of those artificial jamies in there.

SPEAKER_02

01:24:08 - 01:24:10

I don't want to speak for him, but he had surgery on his neck.

SPEAKER_01

01:24:10 - 01:24:11

He didn't get it if he used it.

SPEAKER_02

01:24:11 - 01:24:16

He didn't get anything fused. I'm not sure. I don't want to speak for shape. I know he had surgery on his back, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

01:24:16 - 01:24:19

I like rising because a lot of them take all the vitamins he wants.

SPEAKER_02

01:24:20 - 01:24:35

It just, I mean, it's just a monster squad. That's they should rename it Monsters Inc. Well, I would like over him to go over there, too. I'll meet too. Just do the old thing, man. Just do the old thing. Like the old time you need for Jeet in the face and ended his life.

SPEAKER_01

01:24:35 - 01:24:44

Do that. Yeah, when he fought Todd Duffy and he looked like some sort of a cartoon character. How fun was that to go? The old Romero looks small compared to him. The old Romero looks like Mount Merch.

SPEAKER_02

01:24:44 - 01:24:49

The old Romero looks like Mount Merch. The old Romero looks like he has AIDS next to Uber.

SPEAKER_04

01:24:50 - 01:24:51

He's like, I got a good lift. I got a good lift.

SPEAKER_02

01:24:51 - 01:25:05

I got a good lift. Damn, I need a fucking hit the gym. Uber room? We've never seen anything like it. No. For whatever reason, you and I get together. We just fucking have a love fast over this Uber room. Well, that doesn't exist in my studio. It's like the Loch Ness monster. You and I have sex with this.

SPEAKER_01

01:25:05 - 01:25:19

Well, there's video though. That's the problem. There's pros. It's not just like we see him and we'll go, oh, that's the guy's T-page. It's not. No, I'm telling you, T-page is a bad motherfucker. No doubt about it, but he's not the same guy. That's not the Brock Lesnar guy. Oh, that's what Brock? No.

SPEAKER_02

01:25:19 - 01:25:33

They got doesn't exist anymore. If he did, he would never lose. He would never, ever lose. I was so scared because I was fighting that time. I was like, what the fuck would happen? What if they called me up right now? I'm gonna have to act sick.

SPEAKER_01

01:25:33 - 01:25:47

Yeah, well, yeah, it's interesting, man. You know, the people that say that steroids don't win fights or performance and dancing drugs don't win fights. They're crazy. Those people are crazy. Crazy. You're out of your mind. You're crazy. It helps a lot.

SPEAKER_02

01:25:47 - 01:26:07

You don't think I could've went Uber Brown, Uber Big Brown. Oh, yeah. On day Brown, it helps a lot. Venti Brown would do some work. It also helps with your chin. Yes. And hopefully I could have taken that in HH and my head would have grown. So all of a sudden I have this ubering body and this mark hunt head that'd be fucking sick!

SPEAKER_01

01:26:07 - 01:26:20

You know what I hope? Honestly, I really do hope that Ryzen takes off and becomes like pride was back in the day. And you have these nutty and sane fucking full-bore freak show fights. And we get to see guys just jack to the inside of my life.

SPEAKER_02

01:26:22 - 01:26:27

Ah, it'd be awesome. We would do fight campaigns every one of them. Fuck yeah! Yeah! So sick. Fuck yeah!

SPEAKER_01

01:26:27 - 01:26:32

It'd be so violent. It would be amazing. If UFC was smart, they'd get in bed with them.

SPEAKER_02

01:26:32 - 01:26:34

I'd be like, listen, let's just be under the table investors.

SPEAKER_01

01:26:34 - 01:26:37

Just bring this over to the fucking fight pass.

SPEAKER_02

01:26:37 - 01:26:43

Come on, baby. I agree. Hey, listen, Ubering wants to start some shit. How would you just sign and then put on fight pass?

SPEAKER_01

01:26:43 - 01:26:50

And encourage the steroids. Say, listen, I know those motherfuckers. They can't fight like that over here. That's what we're all. Clean and everything. So listen.

SPEAKER_04

01:26:51 - 01:26:52

fucking give us a little taste.

SPEAKER_01

01:26:52 - 01:27:33

It'd be a good business plan. Yeah, you can watch the freak show. You get it, Japanese freak show. You get it all. And who knows, man, Japan is weird. Japan was a huge culture for MMA at one point in time. Like, at one point in time, the UFC was giant over there. And then it faded and dropped off. Or excuse me, pride was giant. And then it faded and dropped off bad. And dream was kind of like the end of it. And then now there's not really a presence there anymore until Ryzen comes along. So, Ryzen can figure out how to bring back the same sort of excitement in the Japanese culture and the Japanese people that they had when they had the Pride Days, the glory days of selling outside Thomas Super Arena and those gigantic places.

SPEAKER_02

01:27:33 - 01:27:49

Then it gives, it'd be good business for you to see, because then they just come in the back door and like, I like that product. What's that, fellas? I do a big and bad and everyone. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying a little piece of that. I wonder how the UFC did, because didn't they, all though, Uh, someone out. I'm not, although, uh, anti-petice was the main event out there. Remember?

SPEAKER_01

01:27:49 - 01:28:03

Yeah, I was there. I was there for one. Was it a good show? Well, there has been more than one Japan UFC. I've been there for one of them. But that was the bit, uh, the latest one. Remember? Rampage fought when I was there. I remember that. Um, but I don't remember too much about that event.

SPEAKER_02

01:28:03 - 01:28:12

Mayor Patus, I think, I feel like Patus made of that and liver kicked the shit out of someone, or head kicked someone. It might have been Joe Loson's. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

01:28:12 - 01:28:13

That was the guy from college.

SPEAKER_02

01:28:13 - 01:28:23

I felt like Roy was on there, too. My son. I don't remember. But I wonder what the numbers were like. They couldn't have been too great because you see it was like, oh, we're good. Yeah, because they haven't been back in a while.

SPEAKER_01

01:28:23 - 01:28:46

I don't know. I mean, look, the UFC does so many shows. They're doing two next Saturday. They're doing one from Brazil and they're doing one from Belfast. Really? Yeah, they're doing the Northern Ireland card is gay guard Musasi versus your royal hall, the rematch. It's fun. Yeah. And then the Brazil card is Ryan Bader versus Little Nog and Claudia Caday, Jessica Delias on that card.

SPEAKER_02

01:28:46 - 01:28:48

Yeah, and there's one more big fight on this.

SPEAKER_01

01:28:48 - 01:29:02

Yeah, this is here's someone that no one's talking about in the strawway division is Jessica on drugs. Yeah. She moved down. She's a gorilla. Drilla. She her and Liz Carmoosh that a bodybuilding contest. That's a tough song. Dan and front of each other flex it out.

SPEAKER_02

01:29:02 - 01:29:31

watch that. I'll tell you who I went to see inside with the UFC and I don't think she needs to work on it. Stand up. Obviously it's super amateur right now, but that Mackenzie. Oh, yeah. I watch sure. I think it was on HD net. She fucking, not at this girl up. And I think it was a Google plot and then she got, she started in a Google plot and then got her neck and it, I mean, her grappling, I think she could come in the UFC right now, it's straw weight and just top five.

SPEAKER_01

01:29:31 - 01:29:33

She's the same. Her judicis who's insane.

SPEAKER_02

01:29:33 - 01:29:40

It's so insane. Her strike and super amateur, but the straw weight divisions at a point where I think she could still do work right now. And she's out as far.

SPEAKER_01

01:29:41 - 01:30:41

She is a smoke show. She's a smoke show and she speaks English and Portuguese. Fluently. Dime, PC, and nasty on the ground. That's super nasty. Super high level black belt. And the daughter of Megaton Diaz. Yes. Who's a very very well-respected famous Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt. and a pioneer. He's one of old new guys. That's her papa. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, yeah. I think she's probably eventually going to wind up in the UFC. She's making 115? Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Good luck taking down the Polish killer. Did you see the one that she put on her fucking water bottle, bro? Yeah. I posted up on my answer. Somebody killed her shit. One of the guys from the underground posted it up and then I actually want to be getting it from Joe Silva. Joe Silva showed it to me in between fights. It's the dude's name. This sin cognito is the dude's name on micksmartshorts.com. And it says in two days I will fuck a bitch up and continue my violent run as champion.

SPEAKER_04

01:30:41 - 01:30:43

She writes that on her water bottle.

SPEAKER_02

01:30:43 - 01:30:53

Just straight cold blooded killer. I love her. Dude, how much that fight? Well, I was surprised. First time we've really seen her in a lot of trouble like that. She got cracked crap.

SPEAKER_01

01:30:53 - 01:30:58

Thing was a punch. It was a straight punch. She got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. She got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit.

SPEAKER_02

01:30:58 - 01:31:04

I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit.

SPEAKER_01

01:31:04 - 01:31:10

I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit. I thought she got hit.

SPEAKER_02

01:31:10 - 01:31:13

I thought she got hit. Super tough. That was Polish.

SPEAKER_01

01:31:13 - 01:31:19

Super tough. And after the fight looked great. I mean, she ate a lot of punches. She ate a lot of kicks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:31:19 - 01:31:25

I thought you want to look to worse as far as face. Yeah. She had that big mouse on her upper eye there.

SPEAKER_01

01:31:25 - 01:31:39

She got cracked with, I think there was a couple of hard elbows in the clenched too. It was a great fight. I mean, but it wasn't a great fight for a while. For a while, it was like it looked like Valentino was just, she just wasn't as fluid or effective.

SPEAKER_02

01:31:39 - 01:31:41

Yeah, she was just hanging in there.

SPEAKER_01

01:31:41 - 01:32:03

But she never stopped. She never stopped coming forward. She never stopped coming forward. And she was never discouraged. I mean, she had some moments where she couldn't solve the puzzle. And you want to was doing a really good job of ending the combinations with leg kicks inside and outside. Inside and outside. Yeah. And all those leg kicks were there was there was really making a big difference.

SPEAKER_02

01:32:03 - 01:32:21

Yeah, if you follow you on and though that that it was a tough fight beyond definitely one that she said like the her first fight with Claudia Godeja that's a that was the tougher fight for her to find the last one with Claudia Godeja really shot one really to one, but yeah, she's been to some wars, you know, Valerie Laterno.

SPEAKER_01

01:32:21 - 01:32:27

She fought that fight. She had a broken hands somewhere in the fight. She kept punching with it. She's the murder man. She's a badass woman.

SPEAKER_02

01:32:28 - 01:32:32

It's badass 20-inch cliff still obsessed with a lobster. It looks like brother and sister though, don't they?

SPEAKER_01

01:32:32 - 01:32:45

Yeah, it would be weird if they fucked. She might not weigh him. Yeah, that's a tough one. When she's not cutting weight, that's a tough one. Yeah, she definitely beat his ass. He admitted that.

SPEAKER_02

01:32:45 - 01:33:03

That was like a better meat or ass, right? No, she put her hands on your head. Yeah, he loves them, man. She's a killer. Killer. That was a long NASCAR, though. And what I was watching on these ghosts in Florida, dude, the cards get done late there. It was like 1 a.m. by the time Connor was walking out, yeah?

SPEAKER_01

01:33:03 - 01:33:17

Yeah, Jamie was there. We couldn't get somewhere to eat. We tried to get into the first restaurant. It was God damn packed. With two o'clock, two thirty in the morning, we wound up at Katz's Deli. Katz's Deli's 24-7. It was hard to find food. It was mobbed. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02

01:33:17 - 01:33:20

It was crazy how late it got down for the East Coast.

SPEAKER_01

01:33:20 - 01:33:27

Well, New York is just different. New York bar stay open. I think to four. Florida's to five. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_02

01:33:27 - 01:33:36

Oh, Florida was crap. Florida was popping. Like everything was great. And I was exhausted. All right. You're going, man. Two hours of sleep and gone on a plane. I was exhausted, man.

SPEAKER_01

01:33:36 - 01:33:38

Especially if you're in Southern Florida. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:33:38 - 01:34:05

That's where we were at. And then it's like, that and then with the time changing LA, you know, you just all messed up. But that's why it's sports, like in, you know, I'm football, but like the highs been voting stuff like that on these ghosts, it's so late that you know, like, I don't see a lot of it, you know, or that they don't see a lot of money in that football or college games, because it's just so damn late. I feel like there's a better route to go. Nope, obviously they would do it if it was right.

SPEAKER_01

01:34:05 - 01:34:44

Yeah, though the East Coast doesn't mind staying up late and the West Coast demands it be on their schedule. So it wants the West Coast get it done. More people that's film things out here. Good points, sir. Yeah, and if they did it on the west coast of the East Coast schedule, it happened too early. You would lose money. Like if you had the show at five, people are not done working. People have to work on Saturday. They're still at work. It's true. So it can't be at four, which would be if it was their time, our time, who was seven PM. And then also, you also have to think about the undercard. What if somebody wants to watch the undercard? On FS1, you're not going to pay for the undercard. FS1's going to be a listen bitch. You can't put the undercard on it 10 in the morning.

SPEAKER_02

01:34:45 - 01:34:48

You know anyone wants to watch that shit done it and you know when they're in Brazil.

SPEAKER_01

01:34:48 - 01:34:51

Yeah, but they'll get mad people get mad Let's true.

SPEAKER_02

01:34:51 - 01:35:36

I can get the mass audience. It's obviously working. Yeah, and these coast stays up. They always stay up dude. How crazy that mass queer garden and after the fight the lights on the state in which they've never done before in the arena where Irish colors. Yeah, it's pretty intense Do you and Brian I were arguing this do you think Conmer Greger is more well known than Floyd May weather? Currently yes It's boxing's a bigger sport. Yeah. Because you look at, you look at Floyd Manney, like the Patriot Numbers, destroys anything. Conner's been close to. That's true. Maybe not. Maybe no. Right. I was arguing Conner is bigger. He can social media stuff like that. But Floyd has more followers and on Instagram, Twitter, we can't judge it off that.

SPEAKER_01

01:35:36 - 01:35:42

Here's the thing, the amount of excitement that Floyd generates does not even fucking compare to the amount of excitement that Conner generates.

SPEAKER_02

01:35:42 - 01:35:44

That doesn't mean he's more popular.

SPEAKER_01

01:35:44 - 01:36:31

Yeah, understand, but it does kind of because the intensity of the popularity, the love people might know who Floyd Mayweather is, but when it comes to how many people love Floyd Mayweather is not even close. It might be like some ridiculously tend to want or 20 to one because when Connor gets out there, they go fucking crazy. How many people are there to see Floyd May with her lose. How many people are bored after Floyd May with her fights? Like Floyd May with her fights so skillfully and surgically that and doesn't take any chance is hardly ever gets hit. It's not Connor Merck's mother fuckers. He wins the world title and the fastest ever title winning knockout ever. What did you do after that? He comes back and makes Eddie Alvarez look Eddie Alvarez world champion. The guy was he's he's. and Connor makes him look like he has no business in there with him, no business. Has zero success at all except for a couple of body shots.

SPEAKER_02

01:36:31 - 01:36:42

This is why I think Connor's bigger and more transcendent, because you just bailed on that word. I did, sorry, man. I sent a transcendent transcendent. Because I just bailed, right? Just fucking out. You like that? I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

01:36:42 - 01:36:43

I feel like I think I'm using it wrong.

SPEAKER_01

01:36:43 - 01:36:46

I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong.

SPEAKER_03

01:36:46 - 01:36:48

I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong.

SPEAKER_02

01:36:48 - 01:37:03

I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I'm using it wrong. I think I Successful black athletes do we know Joe Gillin. How many white Irish superstars do we know? One. Yeah, one. One.

SPEAKER_01

01:37:03 - 01:37:16

Barry McWiggan was a big star before he came to the United States and he came to the United States and eventually lost his belt. Barry McWiggan at one point in time was a huge star, but nowhere near. Do you star the conner?

SPEAKER_02

01:37:16 - 01:37:33

In this it goes for all athletes, conners the green elephant in the room. Everyone else we see We've seen before, everyone's we know what they can kind of do. Conner's this green elephant amongst all these gray elephants and there's nothing like them. Totally different animal. It's crazy. He's elephant with two fucking trunks.

SPEAKER_01

01:37:33 - 01:37:52

It's got a 15 dex. 15 dex and two trunks. Gold with a leprechaun outfit. And now he has a little sun on the way and they gave him a fucking Rolls Royce with his face on it. How crazy is that? What's interesting is how well he manages it all. It's really interesting. You know, like that's the pressure in particular. He doesn't seem to have a problem with it at all.

SPEAKER_02

01:37:52 - 01:38:08

Isn't it weird? That's what makes him so special because that magnitude and the pressure he has to deliver and he has to do those antics and then back it up. Yeah. But he keeps pulling it off. Like you at the press conference, I was like, right, this is stupid and it's getting old to me. But then we pulls off. I'm like, that was brilliant.

SPEAKER_01

01:38:08 - 01:38:26

And you know, I mean, the guy steps in, he loses to DS, right? Takes the DS fight on short notice. By the way, after a staff infection, here's something a lot of people don't even know. He's a pretty significant staff infection. It was on antibiotics until like, I think, two weeks before the fight. If you don't think that drains your gas tank, you never had a staff infection, and you never had to take antibiotics.

SPEAKER_02

01:38:26 - 01:38:29

Antipox are brutal on your respiratory system.

SPEAKER_01

01:38:29 - 01:39:42

Yeah, they're brutal on your whole body. It's just your body when it comes up. Yeah. Your body's made up of all this shit that you don't consider to be you, but it is you. The stomach flora is a real part of you. You know, your body is essentially like an ecosystem. And when you have a staff infection, staff infections are dangerous. It's fuck. And people die from them. So they hit you with some heavy duty antibiotics. I've had staff twice. and it's not fun. And the first time I had it and I took the medication, I couldn't believe how I felt so weird. I felt light-headed. I felt weak. I was like, whoa, you're drained, right? You have no energy. It's super strong stuff, too. And I was like, wow, imagine this guy fighting two weeks after that. Because there's no way you peek correctly. No. So he comes from that and then he fights Nate again. You know, a few months later in a fucking crazy five round war and beat them by the narrowest of margins, right? Don't you agree? Yeah, that's very very close fight where some people thought the Nate won. I think he did. I thought the decision was correct, but I was like, wow, that's close fight. So, takes that fucking crazy chance. Comes back and fights that guy. He kind of weighed 169. That's what he weighed when he weighed in. That's what he weighed during the fight.

SPEAKER_02

01:39:42 - 01:39:48

And they wanted to fight at 55. He was, no, no, no, I can't be honest, seven. Let me do 70. Nate weighed probably around 190 something.

SPEAKER_01

01:39:48 - 01:40:20

I mean, did. I mean, everybody says that Nate is a 155 pounder. He is. 100%. But he's a way bigger man. They've been then conneries. He just is, you know, so it's like who's gonna weigh more when they actually get in there and Nate's gonna weigh more. So he does that and then goes from there and just, starch is Eddie Alvarez, like a world beater and just so relaxed and loose in there. So amazing. Fucking Madonna was at the show. Madonna was at the bottom show. Madonna was at the fights.

SPEAKER_02

01:40:20 - 01:40:25

How crazy is that? Madonna's Instagramming. Mama, we made it. Mama, we made it.

SPEAKER_01

01:40:25 - 01:40:26

It's red panty night.

SPEAKER_02

01:40:26 - 01:40:30

It's red panty night in Madonna, Europe. I think she's single.

SPEAKER_04

01:40:30 - 01:40:34

Where the fuck is my second belt? I had visioned this. Where the fuck is my belt?

SPEAKER_02

01:40:34 - 01:40:36

Not man. Yeah. It's fucking sad.

SPEAKER_01

01:40:36 - 01:40:38

He's an actor, man. He's such a character.

SPEAKER_02

01:40:39 - 01:40:49

And you know, I thought he was going to make a big announcement. I thought his announcement was he's going to retire. But his announcement was like, uh, if I'm going to continue doing this, you guys need to, I need a share of the company.

SPEAKER_01

01:40:49 - 01:41:16

Yeah, that's probably what the announcement was going to be all along. You know, that he wants a piece of the pie. I mean, he's got an argument that he probably should get a percentage of the promotion because the what they're selling is kind of a Gregor or selling the UFC plus kind of a Gregor. The question is, how much of that card What would it be? What would the paper? We don't know what the numbers are. So it's pretend the number is 2 million, which would be like the greatest card of all time, right? Probably wouldn't hit that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

01:41:16 - 01:41:16

I bet it's around 107.

SPEAKER_01

01:41:18 - 01:41:43

Let's just say 2 million because it's easy to correct. So let's say that. What percentage bought it because a Connor it might be a million one million plus for sure might be one million plus one million people might have bought the paper view specifically because of one human being that is not outrageous to say and but this is the other thing in Connor's favorite name another star who can do that Rhonda can't quite do that.

SPEAKER_02

01:41:43 - 01:41:48

She can't quite do it. She and she's talking about this might be my last fight blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01

01:41:48 - 01:41:51

So I think she said that. I think she said she's a few of us, right?

SPEAKER_02

01:41:51 - 01:42:02

Which when you hear that, right? Like you start about having one foot out, blah blah. So let's say she has two fights left. Maybe three who knows, but she's not the same draw as Connor just not that's just you look at the numbers.

SPEAKER_01

01:42:02 - 01:42:44

She's not the same draw, but if she comes back, beats in a man to noon as arm bars are and then fights. I bought it and then fights Holly beats a beat Holly gets a rematch on. you don't know that, because as that happened, she likes to bet, but here's the thing, as these people win, their star gets more and more giant. As Ronda, if Ronda came back and started winning again, her star would get more and more giant. It would get bigger, it would fuel more, the more body she claims, the more fuel her fire will have, that is what happens all the time. I mean, it's pure speculation, but really can win the way Connor's been winning, she can win in spectacular fashion, or the way she was winning when she fucked up Alexis Davis and Sarah McMahon,

SPEAKER_02

01:42:44 - 01:43:21

Merkin girl Mark and then she cuts to 115. She could never make, but you know if she could fuck no. Why not she she's way too big, but is she okay? Yeah, I'd be it. I mean, yeah, because she looks really really really rough. Yes, the way it's in terms of 35 that ain't that's this is nine. Yeah, but If, for Connor, and this, and again, I'm not rooting for fear, so I'm just saying it from business standpoint. For Connor, he's such a big draw. Right. What's going to help him in this negotiating power if Ronda were to lose his next fight? Because then he's like, I'm the only motherfucker in town. You guys were claiming me in Ronda? That's cool. She's just lost. I need my fucking money.

SPEAKER_01

01:43:21 - 01:43:35

Well, and by the way, Ronda has a tough fight in front of her. Amanda, newness is goddamn scary. She's scary girl. She's the one I was saying before Ronda lost a holly. I was saying she should have got the title fight and I said I said that I think she's the most dangerous one.

SPEAKER_02

01:43:35 - 01:43:36

Yeah, and I was talking shit to you.

SPEAKER_01

01:43:36 - 01:43:39

The way she stopped ceramic man. She cracks hammering out that right hand.

SPEAKER_02

01:43:39 - 01:43:58

Yeah, she hits like a match truck. She hits like a dude. But she well, cyborg hits like a dude. Amanda hits like a strong girl. Big difference. The cyborg hits like a like Tyrone Woodley with Braids. Let's be real. She hits so hard and gets no love because she's so goddamn scary and can't make the way.

SPEAKER_01

01:43:58 - 01:44:10

She also has a better arsenal like shulter kicks and knees. Just a blast on the ground. Yeah. I think a man does two. Yeah. A man does. But a man that has lost on the ground before. Yeah. She got beat up by Katzenko on the ground.

SPEAKER_02

01:44:10 - 01:44:17

Correct. Cyber grip your limbs off. Yeah. But she's getting no love. But she's too big. I don't know. It sucks for her body.

SPEAKER_01

01:44:17 - 01:44:26

But then you know 155. Well, 150. Well, and again, if like, if they did that whole thing where I'm talking about the eliminated weight cuts, there'd be two girls, cyborg would fight it like 180.

SPEAKER_02

01:44:26 - 01:44:32

So I ripped out 180 and it'd be, it'd be her and that big ass girl Gabby gets it.

SPEAKER_01

01:44:32 - 01:44:35

That's it. That's it, 280, but that's all we got for you. It would have to cut weights.

SPEAKER_02

01:44:35 - 01:44:37

You and Gabby fight every other weekend.

SPEAKER_01

01:44:37 - 01:44:37

I love that.

SPEAKER_02

01:44:38 - 01:45:02

Like Tim Sylvie and Andrea Loski. Let's do that every other weekend. Maybe they're fighting like, they're fighting like every other weekend because all we did is the old days. But I think for Rhonda, the man of Nunes fight, Stylist Ginkin, we don't know, we don't know where Rhonda's mental state is at, but Stylist Ginkin, it's a great match of Rhonda. I think so. Yeah, I think if she comes ready prepared, has a good camp, she works.

SPEAKER_01

01:45:03 - 01:45:15

But don't you think that you look at the way she fucked up, me should take? You're like, that girl presents a lot of danger with those punches, especially considering what happened with Holly and Ronda. Yeah, but yeah, I think she presents a lot of danger.

SPEAKER_02

01:45:15 - 01:45:30

100% Joe, I think you're right in that. But I think her marching forward is the perfect antidote to get murked by Ronda. Because she's like, oh, come get some of these jude on them when I'm on your ass. Right. If she marches forward. Which is the upperly all she knows how to do. You know what I'm saying? It could be interesting.

SPEAKER_01

01:45:30 - 01:45:35

It's a great fight either way, but it's also interesting to see what we're wrong as head is. Now she's coming back.

SPEAKER_02

01:45:35 - 01:45:46

That's the X factor, because if it's wrong 100%, she beats 30, I think nine out of 10 times. Strong words. It I know. But if it's Ron who's kind of, I want to do movies, I want to do this. This isn't for me. You're going to get marked because I girl hit so hard.

SPEAKER_01

01:45:47 - 01:46:03

Well, what Rhonda has and what you want to has, you know, and not a whole lot of other women have it is one thing that they do where they're really fucking good at it, and then they have all those other stuff. Correct. Whereas like Page Van Zannis kind of learned the whole sport, she's learned what she goes, you know.

SPEAKER_02

01:46:03 - 01:46:10

But what she does, what Page has is just toughness. And she's hot, that she's thick and sweet. That helps definitely help.

SPEAKER_01

01:46:10 - 01:46:37

but there's not other girls, you know, other than Valentina, Valentina Shavchenko, she's another one as badass, who's another super powerful striker. I mean, the way she handled Holly Holmes standing up, I know, man. Yeah, handled her. Just countered her at Will, that looping left hook, that check hook that she throws on the right side. Yeah, she's another one, but there's not, they need more of those, you know, like, that's where Mackenzie Durne fits in. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

01:46:37 - 01:46:51

Can he Durne come and do work and she's gorgeous? But I'm saying if Conner's like, listen, I don't wish battling anyone, but for on that we're to lose, we throw in a party and I don't. Because I'm the only show in town. Give me my fucking piece of the pot.

SPEAKER_01

01:46:51 - 01:47:06

Well, nobody has that sort of personality that he has. No one ever. I think even he eclipses Ali, the eclipses all of them. I think he's bigger than she else, son and for sure, as far as like his ability to talk shit. Not bigger than all of them, but yeah, I think he is.

SPEAKER_02

01:47:06 - 01:47:13

I think he's better than all of them. But Ali stood for a different thing, right? Like his message is more important. Yeah. And fight for equal rights.

SPEAKER_01

01:47:13 - 01:47:28

We're also fighting to stop the Vietnam War. Correct. Like there's a different time. He had several things. Correct. Conner's white privilege. Yeah, his nice suits nice suits. Even the government's not trying to send him over to fight in a war.

SPEAKER_02

01:47:28 - 01:47:35

They're not stripping his belt for a long three years in his prime. That's like basically taking the belt from Conner at only three years.

SPEAKER_01

01:47:35 - 01:47:56

We'll see soon and they comes back at three years after not having trained at all. Ali didn't even work out for three years because when Ali wasn't fighting, he was like, why won't I work out? Well, fucked up, sir. And he was never the same, was he? No. No, he didn't, not only is he not the same. He didn't have the footwork anymore. He didn't have the endurance anymore. He came back, he looked at his body when he came back and thought, you thought Jerry Quartz was coming back.

SPEAKER_02

01:47:56 - 01:48:25

Yes. That's what's scary. Not scary, but to me, let's just see what happens with John Jones. because now they've suspended for a year, right? And he's been out even longer. And then before that, so they're stripping his title, then Dana, obviously, you know, he never sticks to their what he says. sometimes he does, but he has, he'll never be a main event again. Like we can't book him as the main event, because we can't trust him anymore. Wow. I know, right? So for John, he's doing that flow grappling event against the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_01

01:48:25 - 01:48:28

That flow grappling, you could've been fighting for the UFC heavyweight title.

SPEAKER_02

01:48:28 - 01:48:37

Oh, no, I'm just saying, Lisa's doing something active. Like, Lisa's not Muhammad Ali. Yeah, he's lost millions of dollars, but at least he's doing something In combat sport.

SPEAKER_01

01:48:37 - 01:48:41

Well, he's always suspended for a year retroactively July. It's up in July.

SPEAKER_02

01:48:41 - 01:48:50

Yeah, so he has to get but still it's been a while because we meant before I did that huge laugh for you see 200. So when he comes back, it's when you interest to see what we get out of.

SPEAKER_01

01:48:50 - 01:49:07

I know and then he came back and he fought over in St. Pro and you know, look kind of tentative and then you saw Jimmy Mademois run through over in St. Pro. All these guys are getting better. They're getting better. They're rising up and, you know, rumble rumbles fighting DC for the title again. That's going to be a real interesting fight. Super interesting.

SPEAKER_02

01:49:07 - 01:49:11

Do you remember rumble did land that huge shot DC in flatten them?

SPEAKER_01

01:49:11 - 01:49:26

Yeah, who knows. And this fight, he's got Neil Blancin in his corner now. He's had him for a few years now. He's worked with a lot on his grappling. He's a guaranteed concentrate a lot more on his wrestling. There's a lot of videos of him running wrestling drills. Yeah, so he's preparing to get up. He's preparing to take down defense.

SPEAKER_02

01:49:26 - 01:49:35

It's a fun fight man. It's a toss up for me toss up and then John Jones has all this laugh. He comes back and you'd say rumble for a reason wins. He's like, what's up man?

SPEAKER_01

01:49:35 - 01:49:41

Yeah, let's do it. Well, why do you think he's going to get a straight shot of the title? I don't even think no if we get a straight shot of the title and pawn coming back.

SPEAKER_02

01:49:41 - 01:49:44

You know, that's like everyone wants to see though, isn't it? Maybe.

SPEAKER_01

01:49:44 - 01:50:25

That's why fans do maybe. It might be something going on by then. By the time this time rolls around next year, or July rolls around, so he's going to, he's free in July, whether that means, see, I don't know how suspensions work, but what I would have been explained to me is performance and answering drugs suspensions don't even allow you to train with other fighters around the roster. Really? Yes. When your suspension is up, then you can train with them. I don't think you're even supposed to be sparring with them. What? Once they hand down a suspension? I don't have that regulation. I don't know about that, man. Is that right? I look that up, Jamie. I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true. Yeah, I don't think that's true. I hope it's not because it's crazy. Because you could help your teammates, even if you're suspended, you could still train and help your teammates.

SPEAKER_02

01:50:25 - 01:50:27

And also sharpen your sword a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

01:50:27 - 01:50:31

Yeah, it's like telling the guy I was in a count and you're suspended for a year. You can't even touch a calculator.

SPEAKER_02

01:50:32 - 01:51:03

We're right. He's touching calculators. Yeah, he's your touch. Yeah, go and touch that TA3. You know the touch. Touch that TA83 Texas instrument. Yeah, I'm a nerd. Uh, no, they make them. I remember those. Now it's a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell of a hell There's no longer a red hole. There's like blockbuster. There's none of them left men's over. Did you say anything, Jamie?

SPEAKER_04

01:51:03 - 01:51:07

See anything? The first article I clicked on was the one from last year side.

SPEAKER_02

01:51:08 - 01:51:25

I don't think so. But the other thing to your point where you don't think who says we'll get a tile shot. The light weight, the light heavyweight division is just al dino source besides the top few guys. They're so old. John's like, I'm not fucking fighting show gun again. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

01:51:25 - 01:52:10

How dare you fight again. But Jimmy Manon was a very dangerous fight for anybody right now. He's a dangerous fight for John too. You are rich and so I'm not you are rich. I'm not you are rich. I'm not man. I would lit up a over and same crew. Did you see what happened when he fought Gus? He he got cracked. Yeah, do you see what happened when he fought rumble? He got cracked. He got dealt with that's part of the game. Well, over and same crew just went fucking the full distance with John Jones and a tough fight with a sleepy John Jones and had a broken arm. Yeah, got his arm broken after John broke that arm by throwing kicks, right? Yeah, but my point is he went to the distance and saying proof took him out pretty quick. I think he's dead or I think not saying for a rather Jimmy Manoa took him out pretty quick. I think Manoa was super dangerous. Very dangerous.

SPEAKER_02

01:52:10 - 01:52:13

It would be a dangerous first round for John and it's come back fight.

SPEAKER_01

01:52:13 - 01:52:17

And I think taking him down and beating him up on the ground would be John's best out.

SPEAKER_02

01:52:17 - 01:52:19

100% and he's a tramp I'm throwing the ground in some metal.

SPEAKER_01

01:52:19 - 01:52:31

Also, John's different than anybody else in his length and his ability doesn't get hit, really. And his wrestling is so fucking good. He's just so loud and scared. Just not scared to go to the ground with anybody.

SPEAKER_02

01:52:31 - 01:52:54

But you look at light heavyweight divisions hurting the most out of anyone, I think. You go down the Russia god dog. We need some new blood in this bitch. Yeah, you might be right. The main event in Brazil is Ryan Bader of his little nog. Little nog's like, yeah, I'll fucking do it. Yeah, I'll do it. I've been fighting for 35 years. Yeah, what is little nog? I moved like a goddamn tortoise, but if you want to pay me, I'll still do it.

SPEAKER_01

01:52:54 - 01:53:09

He hasn't taken a same amount of punishment that his brother has, but he's taking some big lot of knockouts. Yeah, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope. So could you knock them out with a wrist? Oh, my god. He, like, closed line dumb. Yeah. Yeah. And then the rumble one was just horrendous.

SPEAKER_02

01:53:09 - 01:53:35

To suit I told you I was in the back of the lock and warming up Pat Cummings. I'm a fucker warmed up by basically doing like arm stretchers couldn't hit mitts. He was so stiff. I was like, who's he fighting? Like rumble, I was like, ah, he can't go out there. I think that is coaching like no. No, I can't speak Spanish but no bueno. Or Portuguese, sorry, yeah, there's no, I'm like, you can't go out there, man. I want to grab his leg like a three year old, not let him walk out the early octagon.

SPEAKER_01

01:53:35 - 01:53:48

I think Brazil is such a huge hotbed for MMA right now. It's so gigantic that they need Brazilian stars. And, you know, for the main event in particular, they're like just don't have a whole lot of options in a light heavyweight division.

SPEAKER_02

01:53:48 - 01:54:01

So, so-and-fucking wake up a little nug out of his slumber, because he's recuperating. Little nug or big nug? Little nug. Because they're waking up as slumber, because a little big nog is done. Right. He's a little nog. They woke his ass up and he's like an alphlight bader.

SPEAKER_01

01:54:01 - 01:54:24

I mean, I mean, he's probably asking for another fight, but outside of him, what other good light heavyweights from Brazil that are in the UFC that you could like sell a mean of in our glory. But they're any fun. Right. But glory just got cracked too. And he should probably take quite a while off after that knockout. That was a kind of knockout that you need to like not do nothing. Yeah, he's gonna lay low. Yeah, he got flatlined.

SPEAKER_02

01:54:24 - 01:54:27

I mean, so you got that light heavy. You got show gun, which I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

01:54:27 - 01:54:30

The show gun's got to be done. If he's not done, he's probably real close to being there.

SPEAKER_02

01:54:30 - 01:54:33

That's what I'm saying. Like it light heavyweight broke. Go through.

SPEAKER_01

01:54:33 - 01:54:45

In Brazil, though, even more so. Because far as like Brazilian fighters, it is far as fame. Machina Machito got machina suspended and suspended for a long fucking time. Does he need this name a two year?

SPEAKER_02

01:54:45 - 01:55:02

I'm not sure. It's not good. I don't know if they've decided or not, but I felt like he got suspended for two years. I mean, just like at the Brazilian fires, especially your right light heavyweight. And Machita was going 85 anyway. But you can float between two of five. I'm just thinking two or five guys he could line up with in Brazil. Not a lot.

SPEAKER_01

01:55:02 - 01:55:07

Not a whole lot. I mean, beta already fought Leonardo. You could sell that as a rematch because remember to be able to knock them out.

SPEAKER_02

01:55:07 - 01:55:33

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. but he suspended all the all the you're right the all the especially there's not a lot of new blood in Brazil look at Jose look at the faces Anderson Silva is like fell off he just lost the bisming and then he got all of the lost a DC so he's basically done well Thomas all made it was looking really good before a quote of garb-rank came around do he worked them he marked them oh who's homeboy that TJ Dilshells fighting hits like a fucking match on record

SPEAKER_01

01:55:33 - 01:55:36

Linnaker. That's a good fight. That's a good fight. Very good fight.

SPEAKER_02

01:55:36 - 01:55:44

Linnaker. They told TJ like, listen, we did think you beat Domin Cruz. You're not going to title shot. We're going to do Garbant. Here's fucking Linnaker though.

SPEAKER_01

01:55:44 - 01:55:54

And if Garbant wins and TJ wins, it's a big hit if I'm both sides, right? Who knows? It's a big big hit. Especially on the Dominic cruise side. Good luck hitting that guy.

SPEAKER_02

01:55:54 - 01:56:08

I know, but if he does land, if he lands, he knocks everybody out. I'm a Garbrant fan man. He's my favorite at that weight class. I love that dude. He's a old school, young, that weight class 135, just a, he runs, you know, of Chuck Ladell.

SPEAKER_01

01:56:08 - 01:56:10

He's a fuck just a small, and this is average.

SPEAKER_02

01:56:11 - 01:56:19

No doubt. Good looking dude, too. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Like a whole package. Like the knockout power. I like that he merks dudes.

SPEAKER_01

01:56:19 - 01:56:36

Are we got to wrap this up? I got to get the fuck out of here. I got to put some of the dudes in the theater. And the kid, tfatk.com, Brendan Schob on Twitter, uh, and Instagram. I'm like the laugh factory Thursday, son. Oh shit. There's Thursday, laugh factory. Do you understand up again? How many times you've been on stage now?

SPEAKER_02

01:56:36 - 01:56:46

by myself like that. Yeah. I mean, we do, I always start standing up to find any kids, but I'm a comedy store. I think three times in the first time at LaFactory. I knew I'd get it.

SPEAKER_01

01:56:46 - 01:56:56

I love it. All right. Thursday, go out with time to show eight o'clock. If you're in LA represents, all right. Thanks, brother. Thank you, man. Fun times. Fun times. Yeah. I miss you. Love you. Love you, too, man. See you soon.