Transcript for Swapcast - Podcast On A Plane with John Dudley

and we're rolling cheers that's that's only part of a cat lady I mean obviously yeah that's just the one well it's the critical part it is it is without the red wine the cat lady is not that ridiculous right it's just red wine is like tequila and red ball yeah that's normal I mean that's like Red bull and vodka. It's not too crazy. Yeah. You pour the red wine in there. You're like, what?

Have you ever made one of those since then?

That was so ridiculous.

So people don't know what we're talking about. The cat lady was a drunk that John invented. Two years ago in La Ni. Two years ago? Yeah, I think it was two years ago. I last year, the year before that. Two years ago. And it was Shane Dorian, Sam Sohald, Ben O'Brien, John, Remi, had me.

We did a podcast in my suite and we just went into the mini bar and we just grabbed everything.

So that was our first year doing this trip and this year was our third. And man, it is, it is an awesome place to get ready for like elk.

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It just breaks everything up so good. Like when we were a Utah hunting elk.

Yeah, it's a perfect breakup pattern. You just you don't see the the human form.

Magarita.

Yeah, the movement is big, but I became an even bigger believer in the Hexu while I was here. When we had that bird fly by and just land right behind us, I was like, dude, what is wrong with his bird?

Yeah, we were just sitting there and this bird just flew by and landed right next to us.

Went about just so the heck suit for people don't know HECS the heck suit breaks up It blocks your electrical signal right the electromagnetic signal that your body gives off Yep, yep, and it's been proven to work on fish and it's been proven to work on what other animals

Some people still skip to go there.

Yeah, I became more of a believer this trip. I felt like there was too many moments too where deer was staring at us and They just didn't know what the hell we were when we were it's like some of the times in the past when I wasn't wearing it The same sort of situation, the deer would start blowing and then they would take on it. They would take off. It made that crazy barking noise and they took off.

And we had a crawl. Yeah, about 80 90 yards to get to it.

It was a lot. It was a lot.

And I shot the deer. That's when we really realized how many they were.

A lot of them popped up.

Well I committed a hundred percent to the silverback last year when when I hunted here I was using I was using a thumb trigger and which is great but these deer are so skittish in these moments are so so adrenaline filled I felt like I made a decision. I'm like, look, I shoot super accurate with the silver back. Why won't I hunt with it? Like, what am I thinking? Am I thinking that I need to make it go off quick? Like, what am I thinking? Yeah, I'm just going to go to 100% silver back. And I'm super glad that I did because a shot my elk last year in Utah with a silver back. I shot that amazing elk at the home ranch, which is like the furthest I've ever shot and animal 75 yards. Perfect shot in the heart, silver back. I practice with a silverback. I don't practice with anything else.

Sometimes I'll practice with a knock to it, but I use a silverback so much. I don't even think about punching the trigger.

Don't even think about it. I just put my thumb there and I pull through it the same way I do it with a silverback.

Plus, I can make it go off in a second or two second.

It's all in the scapula. It's all in that preload. Yeah, it's all in that muscle and the middle of the back, the rhomboids. It's all in that. I shoot with it so much. I have that archery range of my studio and I'm just constantly shooting. I get there before work. I shoot after work. I shoot. It's just constantly shooting, constantly shooting with that thing. So my body knows exactly what to do. That was one of the most satisfying things about this trip, like even the shots that I missed. And I missed a couple shots because these animals are so fast. And we took some, you know, long shots. One of them was 80 something yards. And the arrow was perfectly on track for the boiler room. But that thing saw the arrow or heard the arrow and just like, boy, it's here. They're so fast.

Well, definitely the one I shot last year because last year here I was trying to use a fixed blade and it was a fixed blade with some holes in it. Yeah, and it was like a whistle of death.

It's from India. They were given to King Kamehameha. I think in the 1800s, but they're just an insanely fast animal. There's so much faster. You'd think of Mule Dears being fast. Like Mule Dears, drunk and on pills compared to these things. Really, they're like, they're so slow.

That's why I think that this is the perfect place to show how effective a rage is. the perfect place to show how effective a large cutting surface arrow is so broad it is yep the benefits of it giant because if the if you if you have the variable of

Yeah, and he's a fixed-blood fiend fixed-blade fiend.

It's hard to say. I mean, it's hard to say. You know, I think fixed blades many of them especially invented ones. They're louder, too. Yeah. There's that's what that's a factor as well.

three seconds it's printed as far as it could get was like fifty yards which we see how fast an access runs fifty yards is not very long and it was dead seconds and and and done and everything else was just looking around like what happened what happened yeah they mean I had a second shot try to get a second shot another deer at seventy yards and that that deer duck string yeah because then they're all alert they're all like keep they knew it was up you shut the RX three love it It's so first with so quiet. It's so quiet.

Yeah, which I loved. Yeah, I love the Rx1, but this is better. I mean, those white engineers, man. They know what they're doing.

The thing is super quiet and super accurate.

Yeah, learn how to not shoot that.

So maybe I did love those knock-on elk plates.

I love those. I love the way it feels in the hand too. It's extra grippy even when you're sweaty. It feels like you're really sits in your hand a while.

It depends. Some people like a thin grip pull cue and that's what they prefer. I have big hands and I like a fat grip pull cue because there's less movement in my hand. When I hold a pull cue when it's sitting in my hand, I want my hand to be like just dead. I don't ever want to I don't rip the cube. I really like have a death grip.

My cube sits on like you know, it's Spider-Man.

Those two fingers were Spider-Man uses.

My cue sits on those fingers. And this, so the idea is that it's just like you're almost throwing the cue at the ball. So you're throwing the cue at the cue ball so that you're kind of like letting the weight of the cue and the swing of the arm do the work. You're not, you're not death gripping it and jerking it and punching it. You don't ever want to punch the cue ball.

You want to be relaxed. The whole idea is to be relaxed. When I'm playing at my very best, I'm barely gripping the cue. And I'm letting the natural texture of the wrap sit in my hand. And this one of the reasons why a lot of times I like to use a rappless cue. which is just wood with you know an enamel or I mean some slacker cover on it and then I put beeswax on the lacquer and that's my favorite because just sits in the hand it's tacky and I don't have to grip it at all and I just let the cue do all the work It's like the more you can relax in the more I play like I play for a few hours then I get real relaxed and then I I can really just sort of like gently move my arm and let the cue ball do all what the cue stick move the cue ball do all the work you're the same with archery me It's like I can come out of the gate and feel really relaxed and feel effortless as I shoot and then as I fatigue I obviously feel like I'm putting more effort in and

Exactly the same. Yeah, we see someone tighten up from nerves. You see their hand grip the cue different and you see movement. You see like the cue The cue goes a little bit left, a little bit right. They put unnecessary and accidental English on the cue ball. Yeah, it's one of those things where the more you could stay calm, the more you can relax and rely on technique. That's one of the reasons why archery is so attractive to me because there's so many parallels with pool. So many. And martial arts as well.

Yeah, isn't it? Yeah, well what we're talking about what you're saying is every two years I write a whole new act and I start I'm like a beginner again I'm a beginner who knows how to do comedy but I don't have any new material my materials or I don't have any old material my two materials all new so I have to figure out how to make it work and all these people are paying to see me so I I have to work really hard at it so I can't be lazy and I can't take it for granted and it's like I become almost like a beginner again every two years so every year lately because of the Netflix special yeah well it's two yeah it's it's it's two years in between specials every special I did one in 2014 2016 2018 so I'm unlike a two year schedule which seems to me to be the right way to do it yeah because you can polish Yeah, you can get, you get, but it's most important is when that special comes out, like my last one came out in October of last year of 2018. And that special is out. That material is dead.

Then I moved to the new material and then I have to write and I have to, and so I have all these people coming to see me. So there's no way you're ever relaxed or too comfortable or you can't take it for granted you have to always be nervous and always be on the ball and always be working hard and always be concentrating on the fundamentals of comedy like making sure that you're using the economy of words making sure that You're saying things in a way that makes sense to people and the best way to get it to people and sneak in the punch lines where they don't see them come in and have premises they're good and Address those premises in a way. It's like the most smooth way to do it and so it requires a lot of thinking about comedy a lot a lot

Yeah, I think if it's on my way to the comedy store.

Yeah, all the time.

Yep, throw it out there. So you sink or swim. Something to sink and you got to acknowledge it. You got to let the people know. All right, that was a new joke and that sucks We're gonna keep going and the people get a kick out because they know that you're you're trying things out like all the people that really know comedy And that's what actually one of the beautiful things about the comedy stores how many comedy fans like real efficient autos go there people who You know they know that they can go there in any night of the week they could see some of the best headlines on the planet Yeah, and they know the process they understand particularly one of the beautiful things about podcasts is it through podcast? We talk about it all the time. We talk about that process. So the people that listen to my podcast and many other comedians podcast they understand our process now where they didn't before. Ten years ago people had no idea how comedians wrote jokes. Now they know the people that are really big fans. They know really well.

Twenty bucks, and you might see Dave Chappelle, Joey Diaz, Orange Beer, Tom Sagar, Burke Chrysler, me, you see, Chris Lee, you see Tony Hange, Clayton was there, and Edward, Owen Smith, it's just over and over and over, it's like the lineup isn't saying guys you've never heard of that are murderers. Yeah, and it's a beautiful place. It's one of the main things that keeps me in LA.

You have a good routine. Yeah, man. I was ready to go. I was ready to get hell out of California. Well, what's cool about our relationship to is

You went a bad friend. We both went the same thing.

What can never get out of shape? The comedy is like, it's very critical and never really get out of shape. Like, out of shape is like, this whole week I didn't do comedy. That's as long as it did to me.

Well, that's the beautiful thing about comedy. You know, it's like, everybody knows there's some subjects that you can't really bring up around a lot of people and those are the ones I like the most you know those are the ones that like if I can sell those to thousands of people if I'm in a room and there's 7,000 10,000 people in the audience and I can sell this super fucking dangerous idea like sometimes I say I'm like here me out They're like, Jesus Christ, what do you say? But if you have a point in what's well thought out, it's like they really appreciate that you took that crazy ass chance. And then they're laughing with you. Like I can't believe like I did a show last week. We were in Chicago and I did this giant arena. and Daniel Kormier, who's never seen me do stand up before, came. And afterwards, we were working together doing comedy the next day. He grabbed me. He's like, I can't believe it. She said you were getting away with me. He's like, God damn, that was funny. But it's like, you gotta know that you have a point. You've got to really have that, but you can't just say it for shock value. Like for me, especially at this stage of my career, I'm in this very unusual stratosphere. There's not that many people that are in the nearest place.

I don't know about that. I think maybe other people would get away with it if they thought about the things that I was thinking about. But it's this You've got to have this. I think about things a lot before I say them. I mean, it's not like I'm just flippantly saying something that might hurt someone's feelings or piss somebody off. I want to make sure I cover those bases.

You got to start off with the people that are opposing you. Yep. You got to start off looking at it like from the people.

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Yeah, if cartooned out when cartoon animals would be dead, they would have exes for eyeballs.

That one was a lot of work. That was a lot of work that one. I had to like circumnavigate that terrain many times to figure out the right way to get that bit of cross. Because that was a real thing that did happen. A lady really did say a bunch of mean stuff to me.

Why do my best writing for whatever reason late at night? And I think part of it's because my wife and my kids are asleep and I'm usually coming home from the comedy store. So I work. I do my sets and then I come home and then I write a lot of times.

Yeah, because everyone's asleep and my brains fired up. So usually I'm just hanging out with a dog and just writing and then like writing times too sleepy and then I go, but sometimes like I get these sparks. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm a spark farmer. I'm out there just trying to farm some sparks or a forager for sparks. I'm looking for sparks. Yeah. And then I find a spark that I blow on that spark and I try to turn it to a flame. And then I have to keep that flame alive. And so then I have to keep working at it on stage and figuring out a way. And then some people boo me or they'll get mad at me and I go, that's what I'm saying. And then after figure out, okay, how do I stop the boo in its tracks? Well, I got to get to their argument before they do. So I have to figure out a way.

But it's like if you're crafty.

Yeah, you're a bait and son of a bit to what you are. One of those things where it's like I've been doing it now for more than 30 years. It'll be 31 years this August.

Yeah. Yeah, I used to do shows there. That was the only place I performed in Vegas.

to completely unrelated jobs. Like, almost three.

Podcasting is sometimes funny, but many times not. Like, sometimes I'm just talking to scientists. Yeah. And then sometimes I'm talking to scholars or the diversity is what has people hooked. But to me, it's that's how I view the world. I don't need to be funny. Like, I don't ever try to be funny when I'm doing the UFC. My obligation when I'm doing the UFC is to give justice or to honor the hard work that these men and women have put into their training camp and to appreciate their effort and to appreciate their art.

No, most of the time I don't. I mean, unless something funny happens.

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Yeah, you're not produced. You know, when someone wants it, that's a good way to knock on. When you're doing a live stream or whether you're doing a podcast, you're not produced. And that's the same with me. I don't have anyone telling me to do it. I've been in that situation where I had someone telling me to do and it tell me what to do or what to say. It's not as effective. It's not as genuine. It doesn't come across that way.

Well, because we were talking about coolers.

Yeah, it's who's who can tell us what's happening. I want to know like what is your I need to get someone on that tells me what the hell your phone is listening to. Because that does happen to people all the time. We're also in the their Google feed.

Yeah, you'll be deep into that I need to find out I need to find out how they're doing it and what they're doing because that's weird like what if you were like planning a murder? You know you're phone on you. Damn. That's why I knocks in your door and I don't know. I'm writing a book and murder and then planning it out with a friend to try to pretend that we were planning a murder. So I could see how people can talk when they're planning a murder. So me and my friends were a character. But if you did do that, imagine if you did do that. Like if you were like Jack Carr, right? Our French George Peter. Yep. He just gave me his two new books.

But like you say, Jack was writing a book or George was writing a book and he was trying to figure out how Jack is this we should say is his pseudonym that he is for writing Jack cars is yeah, it's his pennies his nom de plua But if he was trying to figure out how someone would talk when they were setting up a murder And so we got together with an actor or detective or someone and said, what would you say? Like, how would you talk about it? What would you do? What would be the steps? And the phone picked that up and also the FBI is knocking on his doors. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, no murder in anybody. I'm writing books. Like, what are we doing here? Folks.

We're just trying to make money. We don't know nothing.

I think that, you know, we're talking, we need to get away from that. We're talking about when it comes to honesty. There's never really been shows where no one was telling anyone to do. There's never been like, I think about how many downloads you get per episode. Like, there's, that's what you get for your archery podcast is like a successful cable show.

I couldn't, I would only imagine that they can't compete.

It's all watered down. It doesn't resonate with people the same way. It's irre, when people know that it's straight from your mouth and there's no one. They go, oh, this is what John Dudley really is. Like one of these people tell me when they meet me. They go, oh, you're like, how you are on the podcast. And like, yeah, that's me. I don't have a boss. Yeah. But there's never been a thing like that. Yeah. You don't have a boss and yet every episode reaches millions and millions of people. Like if I could see the number of people, if I could like be on a stage and look out and see like I had be real from Cypress Hill.

I love him. I love him. I love Cypress Hill. But we showed video footage of when they were playing at Woodstock. And that was a half million people. Well, if I have a half million people listen to a podcast, that podcast sucks. Like something must have went wrong. Yeah. So think about the numbers like for a podcast that's like a killer podcast. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's it's it's unbelievable.

Well, I feel like a really big giant ban can do like a football stadium. Yeah. Like 50,000 people or 70,000 people, which is, you know, unheard of, right? Yeah. Those are giant giant numbers. But then he shit for a podcast. That ain't shit. No. So think about one of your podcasts is way bigger than a football stadium. Which is really nuts, man.

It's really nuts.

And it's free. It's free. There's never been anything like this.

Yeah, you need more than the sick and knee pads. Yeah.

You need some, you know, some thick ones.

It's cool though, man. I mean, we came at the right time for this. You know, we were made for you to laugh the sportsman's channel and enter into this new world.

It's the only thing hard for them to survive because they seem so corny. Yeah, like you have a mainstream show that covers these subjects is like stupid music and dramatic, you know, reads and it's obviously written and they don't get to just talk like to discuss subjects. You need time To find out how someone really feels about a subject, you need time. And you know, what these shows are trying to do is they're trying to create these gotcha moments for they're trying to catch people and misrepresent their position on things and they're trying to, you know, they're trying to like create controversy because that's how they sold things in the past. But people are getting tired of being bullshit. They're getting tired of it. They want to know like like when I had Graham Hancock on the other day, It was this massively successful podcast millions and millions of people downloaded it. And it's about the origins of civilization on earth, which is such a crazy subject. You think that so many people would be fascinated by it, but they are, but they were never represented before because it was never given to them in a way where you could just listen to the author who is this incredibly well-researched guy. incredibly articulate has been passionate about the subject for decades and who is also often maligned by mainstream archaeologists and scholars and now those mainstream archaeologists and scholars through new evidence and new discoveries have been forced to recognize that human beings have existed in these more advanced civilizations than anyone ever thought before for many many many years thousands of years prior to when we had dated organized civilizations and cultures and it wasn't that these subjects were interesting before It's just that you didn't get a chance to listen to someone talk about it.

Yeah. You know, it's a new world. And you and I got super lucky that we kind of stumbled into this new world. You know, and I was listening to your podcast long before I met you. And while I watched your TV show, and then I found out about your podcast, and then I was listening to your podcast. And I'll say, I'm crazy. This guy's talking about like X, Tans, and different flex chains, and different configurations, and healicles, and all this shit. Like, who the fuck is listening to this?

But to me, it really resembled pool in a way. Because with pool, there's all this talk about low deflection shafts or 13 millimeter tip versus 12 millimeter 12 and a half millimeter carbon fiber shafts maple butts versus Ebony which is a stiffer heavier weight 19 inch balance carbon

Yeah, a lot of the top top players are using carbon shafts and like the big name companies like Predator they're making carbon shafts for for cues and a lot of people swear by them They don't ding up like regular ones do, but it's also like if I started talking to people the way I mean, I've been playing pool for 20 25 years Yeah, about 25 years have been playing pool. I mean, I never really stopped. I mean, maybe a little bit when I was really getting heavily into video games. I deviated a bit. But for 25 years, I've been playing pool and experimenting with different tips and later tips versus buffalo high tips versus cow high versus pig tips. Something, this is all these different types of just kinds of equipment.

Yeah, and then it's also wrapped cues versus rapless the way you hold it the way you grip it some guys like to grip it with the wrist bent forward So there's less variation some guys let the let the like to let the Larisco real loose and let the the cradle to cue in their hands It's so there's all these different techniques and strategies and like like it's also like finger punches, right? Some guys can punch that trigger and they could do it really accurately. It's very a few people That's the same thing with guys who have a death group on the queue. Some guys have a death group on the queue. You don't have a death group, but you know, it's like anything else. You would have to learn how to do it correctly and you would have to practice. You know, I practice playing pool by myself mostly. Most of the times when I play, I play by myself.

Well, I'll tell you if you want You know, I'll show it to you like we were talking about a little bit the other day I was like well I have to go with the four I have to hit it with right hand English because I have to wind up on the left hand side of the five because I want to drift down to the sixth, so close to the second. I don't have the seven, rather. I don't have much room.

I play four balls ahead.

No, sometimes I only play three balls ahead if it's like a fairly easy rack But sometimes I like to play four balls ahead like if there's a cluster then I know I have to break it out I can't I can't fuck around I have to make sure that I'm on the the high side of this ball because when I collide when I make the shot I have to hit that second ball or I will not want to be able to get out. I'm trying to get out. I'm not trying to just when I want to watch someone play Like because everybody likes to say they know how to play pool, which is hilarious. People come to my podcast studio and they're like, oh, you play pool? What's play some pool?

But I always, I watch how they make a ball. If they just try to make a ball, I was like, oh, okay, you can't play pool. You might be able to pocket some balls, but I'm gonna fuck you up in the long run. You might be able to make all the shots and run out. And I'll say congratulations. That was a disaster. You got out, but those terrible. I did that twice. It can happen.

Well, we're playing on an eight by four. It was a smaller table and it has buckets for holes. It's like those buckets. All those things factor in. And, you know, the table that I have in my studio is sucks. That's a brutal table. That's like one of those metal targets that has the softball.

There are an inch and a half shorter than a regulation pocket.

So yeah, that yeah, that was rough when you didn't want to single game that time That was rough that fucking tables rough man that tables rough it was but that's my practice table. That's how I like let's like putting that Outdoors men Atlas pack.

Yeah 120 yards hit that sheep

Yeah. It's, you know, there's levels, there's levels to everything. And one of the things that I learned very early on when I became obsessed with martial arts was how important the technique is to generate power, to generate real power, and to do things correctly.

I can't comedy. It's with everything. Joey Diaz, when you see Joey on stage, he's so wild and crazy and it's comedy so out there, you think maybe there's no technique to it. But he's one of the best technicians.

But he's such an amazing technician because he has the best economy of words. Like here's a Joey DS joke that I love. He was I like transvestites. They cook, they clean. You can beat on him every once in a while. The cops come who they're gonna believe me as I'm doing with a wig and a black eye. Those jokes. That's a great bit. And the jokes come at you before you know where he's going. The cops come, who are they gonna believe me or some dude with a wig and a black eye? That's a brilliant joke. But it's that economy of words. And there's like a skill. If when you see a comic and they have too many words before they get to the punchline, either that's a new joke. And they're trying to figure out how to say it, which I do when I have new jokes. Often time go back and listen to older recordings of a joke that I'm doing like three months later where I've got it down. I'll go back and listen to how I started doing it three months ago and it's embarrassing. It's terrible because there's so many extra words in it.

Yeah. So there's technique to everything man, everything, but in martial arts. The consequences of having poor technique are the most devastating because you're going to get hit where you get it strangled. You get your arms snapped like all the technique in martial arts is super, super critical. It's everything.

There's a guy named John Donnerhurr who is done an amazing job in training. these killers just incredible athletes who've been able to beat people with far more experience than them because John who was a philosophy major in college and just these are brilliant man like a true genius has figured out a way to cut to the chase and figure out what is most important what am I trying to achieve and what are the barriers trying to achieve this and then He's figured out a way to apply that to his students. And it teaches students in this way that cuts the learning curve down radically. And because of that, he's developed these guys like Gary Tonin or Gordon Ryan or Nicky Ryan. He's like, guys who have not been doing judicious, relatively haven't been doing judicious in years, long as they're competitors, but are far more effective. Yep. So there are some of his stuff. Yeah, he's genius, man. He's genius. But it's that, it's the analysis. What it is is a superior intellect that applies that superior intellect to something where people may not have been as focused. And there's also a problem with jujitsu where a lot of people just like to roll. They just like to spar because it's fun. You learn a couple techniques and then you try to get each other. Because it's a fun, it's a fun thing to do. But the best way to do it is to drill. And the really, the really best way to do it is to drill with intent and understanding of each, like a very detailed, comprehensive understanding of each position. And what's the danger of not having inside control

is Eddie breaks things down into paths and paths where people escape and then paths for people counter. Like sometimes like you'll have a path where you will pass someone's guard moving them out, go for the arm bar, they defend the arm bar, then they wind up on top, then they pass and then they go into like an arm triangle or some other submission. So the person who is initially attacking winds up being the person who gets submitted, then you'll do this path and drill this path. And you basically, it's almost like a choreographed sequence of events that will take place in sparring, where you'll catch yourself in an arm bar, you defend that arm bar, and then all of a sudden you find yourself inside control, and then you find yourself submitting someone with this very same sequence of events. And that just builds your understanding of the positions. And understanding of what can take place from those positions. Like there's certain arm bars that you can catch while someone's going for a twister or someone's in the truck or someone's in these various positions. And until you're there, you don't really know it so that to do it in a very clear path. So all the warmups that we do will be these pathways.

Well it's also the personality of the people that are teaching you sometimes you don't want to learn from somebody you don't like them you don't like the way they're talking or maybe they're arrogant and maybe that that arrogance comes off as a

Well, I was doing things very hot. Yep. And I was I had a Yoder that has a direct heat element and the direct heat aspect of it was you have these grill grates. They'd put down and he would turn up the flames very very very high. And I would cook on these grill grates and you put these grill marks on the meat. It was drying out the meat, though. And until Chad, whiskey bent barbecue. Yeah, Chad wore Chad wore it on the inside. Hello. And until he explained it to me the idea of the reverse ear cooking things low and slow and then searing them at the end. I really didn't get it. And then once I just started cooking like that, I'm like, oh, okay. you mean I get mad when I go to a restaurant a good restaurant and that they cook the steak that isn't that a bummer it's a bummer talk about that all the time dude what do we cook night one when sharing I flew in

But I had an ironwood before and... You had a timber line. Excuse me, a timber line before. And they wanted to give me the ironwood because it's the newest version with the... D2.

They didn't have the timber line, the new timber line out yet. but you know what man if you're on a budget I mean it's phenomenal I have no complaints I have the 650 I had the timber line 1300 before but this iron would 650's amazing it's so good and I love the app One of the best things for me is the app and the fact that I can adjust the temperature of the grill on my phone Yeah, and then also I could find recipes like I cooked lobster tails the other day and I got the recipe directly from my phone and I went to the grocery store I got the ingredients based on that and I I cooked it on on the trigger with my what did you tell me you cooked at?

Well, I've been doing that a lot with roasts.

Yeah. I've been doing that a lot. I really like that super smoke man. It just, it does something to the, I love that smokey flavor that you get. I think it's one of the best things about pellet grills. And I think, I've had a lot of pellet grills. You know, the Triggers, the best. It's the best. It's the best that maintaining temperature. It gets too temperature better. It's the easiest to work. It does So it's stable too. I've had some complicated ones where they cooked good, but it's like, you had to like read the manual and figure out how to do things and triggers a straightforward, but pellet grills without a doubt are my favorite way to cook food because you're just getting fire and wood. There's no nonsense. There's no charcoal, lighter fluid, there's no bricats. It's just wood and fire.

And then what they figured out how to do, first of all, it's so efficient. The trigger uses so little pellets. I feel that hopper once. I go 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 cooks. It's just a foot, a foot deep of pellets. And it takes forever to run through that.

Yeah, and it's so easy to use. And to do it at 225, and I love the fact that Trigger has that probe, and you can, yeah, that's the best.

It was perfect. Yeah, it's the perfect combination of technology.

Oh yeah, or charcoal grill. Yeah, I had a comato. You know, one of those ceramic grills, which is great. It's great until you use a pellet grill.

And then, you know, my wife was like, get rid of this stupid thing. Like, you don't even use it. I'm like, but it looks cool.

Do I really need not? I mean, look, it's a good survival skill. Yeah. If you really do find yourself, and I know some guys like to just bring like a flint and some, some,

I don't get more power to him. I don't get that. But then other people say why shooting a bow and you can shoot a rifle, right?

Yeah. Well, the argument for that is these damn deer. These are access deer. I met some hunters this morning. Real nice guys. And one of the guys he got his first big game animal today with a rifle. So they were there for a half an hour and they shot a deer. Yep. We hunted for five days for me. I struck out five days at a row. until finally I connected on the six day with that beautiful bark.

Well, do you have a thing to do?

It's got to be. It's got to be some.

We just bail on this. I don't see any.

Hey, my brother was in it's always always a good time hanging with you. I love hunting with you Thanks for and we'll see each other archery.

That's right. Jocco's first bow hunt is gonna be archery elk in Utah.

That's gonna be legit. Oh, we'll be doing some podcast from there.

I think he'll probably be pretty stoic and and just listen.

They know how to learn. Ace of black belt and jejitsu too. You don't, you don't get to be a black belt unless you're a good learner.

I don't think so. I don't think so. I think he's just going to listen.

I would like to see him get a fucking 10 ring. That's what I want to say. Yeah. I want to see an elf drop the way my elf dropped it to home where you stepped four steps and just stepped over.

He's an awesome guy. I love him to death. So it's so cool for me to see you guys become friends. Yeah, it really is. It's amazing. I think comedy and bow hunting have one thing in common is that it's so difficult to get to that elite level. Then once you meet someone, it's like, how many of you, how many are there? I mean, how many like legit elite bow hunters are there? Is there even 500 on earth?

Same with country smaller way. I think it's probably the same thing.

Yes. It's 100% fair. Yeah. I think there's many things in life.

Yeah, I'm right. It's that old expression game recognizes game.

Yeah. Leave it at that. My brother loves you.

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