Transcript for Short Cuts: Drawn Onward
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Hannah, Anna, Eve, a man, a plant, a canal, Panama. I love it when it feels almost as if they're saying something deeply profound, that they're important. The very rules of their existence meaning that you have to repeat and wield of the same sounds again and again. What I didn't fully appreciate is that Palinjoins extend to sequences of symbols and sequences of music. You're currently listening to J.S. Bach's Crab Cannon, an arrangement of two musical lines. The second line, actually being the first in reverse. And when they played together, they formed something conceptually similar to a palandrome. And I love what this kind of thing does to my brain. But what about audio documentaries? In our next piece, Sarita and Alan explore a common theme among those who immigrate to new places. The yearning to return to the lands and the people left behind, to go back to where one begins. In doing so, they set up to experiment with a novel production technique, creating the first ever completely symmetrical audio documentary, a sonic journey that ends where it begins. When the tape is played in reverse, every word, note, and noise sounds exactly the same. Down to the millisecond, a true sonic palindrome. Titled, drawn on wood.
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I grew up in Bombay in India. I grew up in Bombay in India. I grew up in Bombay in India.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay.
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I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay. I grew up in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay in Bombay
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Each immigration community carries their own histories, experiences, and narratives. Small hotels, those names like my community, I should not their way.
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The queer, another bird, all in the morning, the birds will say it's birds, silly and so birds.
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You could hear all the noises from outside. The sunset for gorgeous as always, the city lights come on.
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No, after ice, maybe we can't help being hit a slow life. Even though it's crazy, it's poetic. No, I see you shall open up.
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In the monsoon, you would hear the winds, as mean as the foe mosses would whistle through the grass, and mobs it up, and the bellars have been obscuring in the afoot garden, immaculate.
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So, you need to have some people who are like a big deal for us. I mean, when I know you have such priorities, all the 34 cousins will come to Grandmother's place.
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I'm just thinking that I'm not him. Oh, it's me.
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I mean, indeed, it's very poetic, right? And he opened my mind. My dad used to say, life is fleeting.
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One song which I love is a kid and I listen to my son. He'll need to look.
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He'll look at it all the more. And while you look, he's no one but afraid, hearing.
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Sir, it's a good move. You said this like this, transporter spirit. They're not feeling well.
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So we're done now, hunts. The community on both sides.
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We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin on a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin.
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We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin. We've gone in a grin.
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I left India in 2018 and I wouldn't be making that name over there.
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And in the 1990s.
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My brother and I were smuggled into New York City. I grew up in India. I'm sure also, if the dealer was a little bit most of the diaspora is now there.
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It's probably so funny. I love it.
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But it's also odd.
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I mean, even though it's more irish. I don't have anything that I brought from Mexico.
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No, nothing. I did have this little picture of Lalan of Babes Krishna.
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It has all my own choreographs in it. Whenever I traveled that tunnel is always with me.
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I've always had a little diary and a pen. When I read, I see what that was.
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My clothes, my shoes, and the sun.
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I didn't know the language, no people.
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I was so afraid. It's just like a lot of migration stories.
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It took time. It was really difficult. It was harsh. It took time.
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at the same time.
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I have learned that language makes me feel so at the moment I became fluent.
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I was not an outsider. I'm not an outsider. I'm not an outsider. They're even not American enough to be Americans.
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Yes, what made a new it's not like that.
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It was all really very different.
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It's very true. It was the destroyed food, the stores.
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We are here for the moment, but we don't know what we're going to go back.
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I'm just stepping on an piggyback.
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You're coming back to finding your roots, but it's at a higher level now. What is home now? The roots look so good. What does home mean for the new generations? I wonder if you know it's normal.
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When I truly say home, it means where I can see the Arabian sea out of my window.
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I don't know what to do.
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I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do.
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I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do.
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I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do.
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I'm not a fish model. I'm not a fish model. I'm not a fish model.
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I'm not a fish model.
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I'm not a fish model. I'm a fish model.
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dead or alive. I'll be back.
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that was drawn onward, an audio palandrome by a musician and producer, Alan Gophinski, and producer, Serita Bot. If you want to hear the rest of that episode, again, search for BBC shortcuts, the episode is called meeting myself coming back. The other stories in it, by the way, are really great. There's a really funny one. about a woman who makes a newspaper all about the mundaneity of her life, and then a really dark one about a dad who kind of regrets becoming a dad. And it's very honest about it. Anyway, it's great. Special thanks to falling tree productions and Elinormic Daule. And that's it. Enjoy your palindrome day. I will say all this really has me thinking, why isn't the word for palindrome a palindrome? Dictionary makers, linguists, get on that. Can you get on that, please? I humbly submit that the word palandrome should be extended to be palandrome more than the lap. Palandrome more than the lap, so itself is a palandrome. Anyway, thanks for listening. Have a good one.
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Bye.
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