Transcript for SmartLess Media Presents: Pretty Sure I Can Fly with Johnny Knoxville & Elna Baker
SPEAKER_03
00:00 - 00:31
Guys, Jason had to scoot very quickly and apologize as profusely for not being here for this little thing that we're about to do, which we're really excited about. He's missing the party. He's missing the fun. He's missing the party. Yes, it's filled really, really bad. But we have a couple guests with us today for a super quick plug for a new smartness media show called Pretty sure I can fly. We can't wait for the show we're super pumped. One of the hosts is a front of the podcast. It's been on before and actor filmmakers made us laugh for literally years and it's a partner in crimes of women who we haven't had the pleasure to be sorry.
SPEAKER_04
00:31 - 00:36
And figuratively years. And figuratively years.
SPEAKER_03
00:36 - 01:04
But literally years. Yeah. At least me. Yeah. And a woman who we haven't had the pleasure of meeting it will be a front of the show after this little chat and gigal. Yeah. She's a brilliant writer and produced one of the all-time greats this American life. Love that show. Well, let's say hello to Johnny Knoxville and Elna Baker. Okay. I'm going to say hello. Hello. Hi, guys. This is so exciting that you're here. Tell us about the show. I can't wait. I mean, I know about it, but tell everybody else about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05
01:07 - 01:21
It's a show about people with more balls than a bowling alley. It's people who achieve great things while thumbing their nose at naysayers, established thought, fail your personal safety and gravity.
SPEAKER_03
01:21 - 01:27
Yeah, I love that. I love that. The press releases says that for people who have done things that have never been done until someone did them.
SPEAKER_05
01:28 - 01:30
Yeah. That's pretty good writing, huh?
SPEAKER_04
01:30 - 01:58
Yeah. It's pretty good. And I will say, Knoxville, you've got some history with this. You've obviously spent some time in between, you know, over the years doing shit that other people won't do stuff that seems really scary and gnarly. Yeah. So I can see it, but how much of an appetite do you have for doing shit that you're not? You didn't think People could do yeah, I mean to an extent.
SPEAKER_01
01:58 - 02:17
I mean I grew up Mormon so I wasn't allowed to do anything and So like for me I guess it wasn't like being brave in terms of like jumping off a cliff But it was like leaving a religion Giving hand job. It's like there were you know There were the things that I was the first thing Wow, that's why I joined
SPEAKER_05
02:21 - 02:25
Well, that's what led you to leave. Ultimately, one of the things, right? You were 28?
SPEAKER_01
02:25 - 02:33
Yes, I left at 20. I touched a penis for the first time at 28. Is that true? It's 20. It's true, yeah.
SPEAKER_04
02:33 - 02:36
It was touching the penis, the thing that... Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_01
02:36 - 02:42
It was. It was the gateway. The penis was the gateway. The penis was the gateway. Yeah.
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02:42 - 02:46
Wow. When did you have your first Coke? Coca-Cola.
SPEAKER_01
02:46 - 02:47
Like Coca-Cola.
SPEAKER_05
02:48 - 02:52
I don't want you to say 8 a.m.
SPEAKER_01
02:52 - 03:07
I was like a we were kind of moments who drank Coca-Cola but I didn't have my first coffee until I was 28 and I remember like being so afraid to order it just because I didn't know everything happened at 28. Everything because I laughed at 28. Yeah, once I had touched a dick, I was, you know.
SPEAKER_03
03:07 - 03:17
Yeah, you got it. Shame. Yeah. Tell me about it. Catholicism, same thing. So wait, did you, is your self-family members in the church?
SPEAKER_01
03:17 - 03:19
Um, everyone, yeah, everyone is.
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03:19 - 03:20
You still, you have a good relationship?
SPEAKER_01
03:20 - 03:22
Decent. Yeah, great. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03
03:22 - 03:23
Johnny, what about you?
SPEAKER_04
03:23 - 03:29
Well, started with Decent. I mean, I love to dig into that. You open with Decent.
SPEAKER_01
03:29 - 03:33
I'm going to take you. I realize they might hear this. What's relationship?
SPEAKER_04
03:33 - 03:40
By the way, if they're listening to this, then they're lapsed. And then they're just as guilty as you are. And now the playing field is lovely.
SPEAKER_03
03:40 - 03:43
Yeah. But Johnny, I need to, what's the nomination did you grow up in? Catholicism.
SPEAKER_05
03:43 - 03:47
Oh, Southern Baptist. It was, I knew that. I knew that.
SPEAKER_04
03:47 - 03:49
Yeah. That's right. Was it hardcore?
SPEAKER_05
03:51 - 04:11
Well, I didn't realize it was how intense it was at the time. You know, it's not like the pinocostals who handle snakes, but, you know, other bad guys, you know, supposed to dance or, you know, but my parents didn't believe in. They weren't that strict.
SPEAKER_04
04:11 - 04:19
So, but if you, if you hit the pinocostals, they could maybe be on an episode of Pretty sure I can fly because of their handling snakes. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03
04:19 - 04:25
There you go. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying being so repressed makes you want to go take these risks later on in life.
SPEAKER_01
04:25 - 05:23
Totally. I mean, that's one of the things that like I love about interviewing the different people we've interviewed is like, I remember the sports writer telling me that like all the greatest athletes had some primal wound that in that thing that happened in their childhood is what makes them like achieve or even try. And so many of these people that we've talked to, like you find out, oh, like, you know, Manipu who, you know, you've seen on Jackass and who Johnny knows. Like I had no idea that like his father was killed by a firing squad in Cuba. like the origin of what made him crazy. Do these insane brave things came from like something really deep and real or like Garrett McNamara who's a wonderful way guy. He's learned about his child. It's bunkers. Like he basically like at one point his mother was this hippie, but she put him in this cult. They have a lot of cults. A lot of cults, but the most memorable.
SPEAKER_04
05:23 - 05:25
He was in many cults.
SPEAKER_01
05:25 - 05:50
Yes. But the one, they had to renounce all their possessions. He and his brother had to wear his bed sheets. They just walked around. They had to beg for everything they couldn't buy anything. And it was just so humiliating to be walking the streets in Berkeley in these outfits begging for things. That's amazing. These back stories are like, what get them to do things?
SPEAKER_03
05:50 - 05:55
Yeah. It's incredible. Johnny, have any of these stories inspired you to try something?
SPEAKER_05
05:55 - 06:05
Well, I'm a little, you know, I'm a little slow on the uptake. So I'm trying to not do things anymore. I'm trying to overcome my, uh, uh, you know,
SPEAKER_04
06:06 - 06:27
addiction to. It became yourself dangerous for years of a dangerous situation. It did become an addiction. It must. It must. What is it? Was there a thing like was there like a common trait that you noticed in a lot of these people that you other than the childhood? A lot of them came from difficult childhoods. Everything else like that sort of had the game in that fearlessness.
SPEAKER_05
06:27 - 06:43
I think the, yeah, it's, there's a through line of people on the show. It's bravery and being colorful. And these people are extremely determined. Very determined. That. Wow.
SPEAKER_01
06:44 - 07:20
And usually, I mean, it's complicated, though, right? Because you're talking about adrenaline junkies, right? Right, right. So more. Some get in and then kind of become addicted. And then they're trying to accomplish something great. But they're also putting their, I mean, your perfect example, Johnny, like you put your life away. Yeah, you can put in your life on the line and then ultimately suffered a traumatic brain injury. So like there's this level at which like you're on the razor's edge of like admiring and also being like you guys should stop. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04
07:20 - 07:26
Sean wants to know and just ask you's that I want to bear it. He doesn't want to bear it himself. Can you catch a traumatic brain injury from watching TV every night?
SPEAKER_03
07:26 - 07:30
You can. But look at me. I'm still here.
SPEAKER_04
07:30 - 08:11
Hey, Sean, have you seen 100 foot wave by the way? No, you have to watch this. And it's by that guy Garrett McNamara. I definitely told you about it in watching what he these big waves surfers do, not just Garrett, but all those guys. When I see those guys go, when they're like, man, there's this storm coming to Portugal to Nazarene. We've got to all, we've got to get there. We've got 48 hours. We need to get there because there's a fucking crazy storm. And I need to get on a surfboard with a dude told me in behind a ski do. So I can get on the storm waves. And I'm thinking like, I know, you want to, I'm looking for the closest restaurant that's got a happy hour.
SPEAKER_02
08:11 - 08:13
It's going to say, I want to make sure everything.
SPEAKER_03
08:13 - 08:30
You know, what kind of, what do they have on drafts? I'm looking for the next Harry Potter movie. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. But yeah, that's, that's insane. So are you guys, is it fun? Have you guys been having a good time? Like, is it like, it's got to be fascinating to learn all these stories. They sound incredible.
SPEAKER_05
08:30 - 08:42
Yeah. I mean, just talking to Ty Stokes, who was the, on the Jamaican founding member of the Jamaican Bob sled team, the real story behind that team, is so much more interesting than the movie.
SPEAKER_04
08:42 - 08:44
Cool runnings.
SPEAKER_01
08:44 - 08:46
Yeah. Cool runnings butchered it.
SPEAKER_04
08:46 - 08:56
Like, you know, right now, you're telling me that the Disney movie cool runnings that was trying to capitalize on the Jamaican Bob's team did it once it wasn't perfect.
SPEAKER_01
08:56 - 08:58
I'm sure it'll take this away from you.
SPEAKER_04
08:58 - 08:59
Really cool story.
SPEAKER_01
08:59 - 09:01
I mean, he's saying story.
SPEAKER_05
09:01 - 09:11
He got put on this team like a mere months before the Olympic started. They didn't have a Bob sled. They didn't have a Bob sled track.
SPEAKER_02
09:11 - 09:12
They've never been on ice.
SPEAKER_05
09:12 - 09:26
Yeah, they'd have a place to train. They didn't even get to go down the, a Bob sled down the, the, the, what do you call it? The Hill or track with the, like, what two or three weeks before the Olympics for the series?
SPEAKER_04
09:26 - 09:32
Yeah. How do they call it? Do you know this? They ended up training for mud. They trained on batteries. But there would go.
SPEAKER_03
09:37 - 09:57
How do they qualify anyway? You know what? We're going to listen to the podcast. That's what we're going to find out. We're going to listen to it. I can't wait. It's called pretty sure I can fly. Johnny Knoxville and Elna Baker together again. You guys make such a great pair. The show sounds so awesome. I truly can't wait to listen to it. It is available right now on whatever podcast platform you're currently listening to. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04
09:57 - 10:00
Thank you. Thank you so much. Johnny and Elna.
SPEAKER_05
10:00 - 10:01
All right. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04
10:01 - 10:02
Thanks guys.
SPEAKER_05
10:02 - 10:03
Thanks a lot. We appreciate it.
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10:04 - 10:18
We're about to play a clip from pretty sure I can fly. Follow pretty sure I can fly on the Wendry app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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10:18 - 10:19
Ladies and gentlemen, Travis Pistrona.
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10:19 - 10:28
Everybody in this house is now standing up and cheering on for 199. Go Travis.
SPEAKER_01
10:29 - 10:39
Can you tell me the story of the double backflip? Because that to me was also, I mean, I got chills in that moment in the movie, but I would love to hear you tell me the story.
SPEAKER_00
10:39 - 11:15
There's very few times. in your life where something that means so much to you means so much to a group around you and even more rare that it means that much to the world. I still have people tell me almost once a week, I get someone that still remembers where they were at that moment. You know, my grandma and all her friends watch it. It's live on TV. My mom was crying because she had known that, you know, I'm about 75% in the phone pit, but if it comes around short, there's a really good chance of a broken knacker paralyzed or it was a really painful moment.
SPEAKER_01
11:15 - 11:21
And even up until you did it, it seemed like, was it really like I don't know if I'm going to go through it or not?
SPEAKER_00
11:21 - 12:11
And the reason we're just explaining like, you always say, I'm in or I'm out. The reason this was such a tough decision for me. And I think the reason that it got built up more was because I was on the fence on this. I have an opportunity to go out there and try a trick that I've been working for for three, four years. But I'm sitting third. So I'm like, if I don't do a double back flip, I still get a medal. Yeah. I still get paid, which is going to really help everything else that I've been putting into the rally and is my goal to be a freestyle motor cross rider or is my goal to continue on in action sports and to have a career that's going to expand hopefully longer and it worked out in rally. And I said, you know what, I'm both. So I'm going to land this trick. And what out there and decided like literally last second played rock paper scissors with my redneck friend, Hubert.
SPEAKER_01
12:11 - 12:13
Wait, you, you, the, the deciding fact was.
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12:13 - 12:15
What's a red paper scissors?
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12:15 - 12:15
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER_00
12:15 - 12:25
Can you down to that? Right before I went up there, Hubert, we went rock paper scissors. I gave thumbs up to basically salad and the guys and they're like, all right, they raised the ramp.
SPEAKER_01
12:25 - 12:28
And no one has ever done this before.
SPEAKER_00
12:29 - 13:03
At that time, I had done it to a sand pile in a controlled environment that was a big step up. So if you came up short, or didn't make it, it sucked, but it was, yeah. Yeah. It was a hard surface that day, right? I was just blue group. It was, it was pretty much worst case scenario for me. We took the ramp that was already existing and then raised it on two by fours. And like it looked like something we built in our backyard for like a, you know, we were five years old. And it's like, you know, my dad's out there like strapping the ramp down and trying to get it. So it doesn't move because the ramp falls over. Then I definitely gonna
SPEAKER_01
13:04 - 13:07
So we would and see you're up there and you're about to go.
SPEAKER_00
13:07 - 14:44
Yeah, it was one of the coolest experiences ever. Got up there and They got it that dross me and he gave me a thumbs up. I said, so on you take your time and I looked around and every single person was on their feet. Yeah. Entire sold out Staples Center. All of my heroes you had Kevin Robinson, you had Chad Keggy, they were holding hands. I had Brian Deegan, all the bullishia was all down there looking, you know, it was one of the coolest experiences and I just I remember inside my helmet smiling and when I dropped in everything kind of went to slow motion usually you get a slow motion if anyone's crashed a car been in a really bad like we think everything's going bad yeah I've never had slow motion where I took off and I can remember the the smells I can remember the sounds I can remember everything was so vivid. And, you know, I came around on the first poll, and I checked the landing, and I remember thinking, you know, it was Trevor Jacob said later, he's like, oh, you can't check. And I'm like, oh, no, now I'm short. And I whip my head back, and I see the lights. So when you practice this trick, you know, in the phone pit, you have, you know, you get the sky above you in the ground. But on this day, you've got blinding lights where you can't see anything. And then below you's kind of dark. And I just remember kind of, Just smiling again. I'm like, well, I'm all in. I can't, I can't get out of this now. And I came around and like literally hit couldn't hit better. And I was just like, what the heck just happened? I dropped down and dropped the bike and I run up. And the first person there was just some drunk guy out of the stands that just overpower this security and gave me a big hug up top and like, I don't even know you. Yes, let's go.
SPEAKER_02
14:53 - 15:06
Are you kidding me? How many times can you find the Holy Grail in one building? A double grab flip from Travis. Pust Rihanna.
SPEAKER_05
15:06 - 15:21
So that's pretty cool. I was at home watching that live and it was like, I had tears going down my cheeks like the end of odialer because it was such an amazing moment and so memorable. Yeah, I was blown away.
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15:21 - 15:32
You think that's the biggest moment of your career or moment that the world felt what I felt.
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15:32 - 15:39
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